I am convinced on the GT-R

[tony]

I don't know when, I dont know exactly how but after reading all the reviews I just have to do it.. the first year or two will probably be impossible to obtain one with the premium but after then... expect one in all black to be in Douglasville.

The Top Gear Review:

http://www.topgear.com/content/features/stories/2007/12/stories/12/1.html

[Maniac1]

This picture, is badass!

[Bruce Leroy]

Sure the car is fast and all... But if I had the money I don't think I would buy one.. Or If i did I would just leave it basically stock... but stock is boring.

[allmotoronly]

pretty cool car, but at the end of the day its still a nissan. Ask a girl what a nissan GTR is, and they dont know. Ask them what a porsche is, and any girl will know.

[Mr.Big]

Soon more people will know what a skyline is

[koffebean00]

I'd hit it!

[Specsteve]

pretty cool car, but at the end of the day its still a nissan. Ask a girl what a nissan GTR is, and they dont know. Ask them what a porsche is, and any girl will know.

True... but honestly I could care less about impressing girls, I can do that on my own without needing a fast, expensive car.

Once again another reputable source raving about what an amazing vehicle this is. Cant wait to see what happens after a few production years when this baby is really dialed in. :yes:

[admedlin]

yes sir, very true about girls not knowing about a GTR, but again, all they need to know is the guy who is driving

definitely can't wait to see how it turns out after a few years

[rednblack]

Good read, but it's got me wanting another car I can't afford :(

[1989_crx_si]

this picture said it all.



http://www.topgear.com/content/features/stories/2007/12/stories/12/images/7/large.jpg

[ueyedgr8tness]

pretty cool car, but at the end of the day its still a nissan. Ask a girl what a nissan GTR is, and they dont know. Ask them what a porsche is, and any girl will know.

thats the problem who cares about what girls say.cause real women don't care what it is they just want to no how fast will it go:goodjob:

[bigdare23]

The car just doesn't look all that appealing to me.

[dougatl12]

70,000 dollars is a little crazy for a nissan even if it is a skyline :diespam:

[Zhu]

are the unpainted parts of the front end carbon fiber like the concepts suggest?

[manilikecars]

70,000 dollars is a little crazy for a nissan even if it is a skyline :diespam:

name another car for 70,000 that can do 0-60 in 3.3 seconds

[Elbow]

this picture said it all.



http://www.topgear.com/content/features/stories/2007/12/stories/12/images/7/large.jpg


That picture says lol @ the Japanese pos playing with a real car. A car that actually looks good.

The new GTR is ugly, no matter what the reviews say about its performance I would take a Porsche over that ALLLLL day long.

[Big Baller]

That picture says lol @ the Japanese pos playing with a real car. A car that actually looks good.

The new GTR is ugly, no matter what the reviews say about its performance I would take a Porsche over that ALLLLL day long.

Amen to that.

I wouldn't own that overpriced Jap crap.

If I'm going to spenk 70K its going to be on a new Z06

[cdhtang]

no one will beat the gtr with the price and performance.

[Elbow]

^Are you kidding????

[87 Turbo II]

I love it. I don't care if it isn't the porsche and I'm not a fan of Vettes. This is what I'd get if I had the money (or the next true rotary sports car when Mazda makes it).

[Alan®]

70,000 dollars is a little crazy for a nissan even if it is a skyline :diespam:
yes but with the performance that this thing exhibits it should cost $400,000 it has been said by road and track car and driver and even by ceo of nissan. This car is the best bang for the buck at $70,000 the Z07 is not that great and yet that car is going to be a 100k. Also don't forget ther are still two more versions of the gtr that are coming out that will be even better than this and they will still be sub 100k. The same thing could also be said about the Ford GT. 100k for a Ford quality product :no: but 70k for a Nissan :yes: :goodjob: I'll take it.

[iloveboost]

I find it hilarious about how everyone says they'll take the GTR over <insert sports car here> when the fact is maybe 0.5% of the ppl that say they will get one can actually afford one.

Second off, it's a Z06, not a Z07. The new Corvette is called ZR1. The C6Z06 would trample the GTR. The GTR might start putting up a fight from 0-60 but it definitely won't finish it.

[Big Baller]

no one will beat the gtr with the price and performance.

**** that is an ignorant statement.

Its a AWD car.

If you put race tires on a AWD car it picks up a couple of seconds at a Road Atlanta, if you put race tires on a rwd car it picks up five or six seconds.

I've got news for you, A Bone Stock Z06 on Race Tires VS a GTR on Race Tires....the Vette will smoke it.

[MudderFugger]

The new GTR is ugly, no matter what the reviews say about its performance I would take a Porsche over that ALLLLL day long.Yeah, **** looks like a stretched Master Chief helmet with wheels.

[Alan®]

I find it hilarious about how everyone says they'll take the GTR over <insert sports car here> when the fact is maybe 0.5% of the ppl that say they will get one can actually afford one.

Second off, it's a Z06, not a Z07. The new Corvette is called ZR1. The C6Z06 would trample the GTR. The GTR might start putting up a fight from 0-60 but it definitely won't finish it.
what does it matter if someone can afford one or not. so your saying that just because i can't afford a supra i can't have an opinion on it. Be real.

And forgive me that I got the name of the car wrong but ummm where the hell are you getting your info?Last I checked the GTR beat the Z06 around the Nurburgring by 10 seconds.

[umairejaz]

997 turbo is sick no doubt, If i had the money to spend on it I would but being realistic if I was in a position to buy a new car I would consider the skyline without hesitation.

[tony]

**** that is an ignorant statement.

Its a AWD car.

If you put race tires on a AWD car it picks up a couple of seconds at a Road Atlanta, if you put race tires on a rwd car it picks up five or six seconds.

I've got news for you, A Bone Stock Z06 on Race Tires VS a GTR on Race Tires....the Vette will smoke it.

Not to start a flame fest here because you may be right but.. the car isn't even out yet so I'm curious as to how you come to that conclusion? Because its AWD?

I'm not one of these people that thinks the new GT-R is gods gift to the road, I actually didnt want to like it but the more I read the more I can appreciate what it is. Its not even so much the performance or it can beat this or that.. I just feel on a daily basis it would keep a smile on my face in different ways. Its basically everything I wanted in a TT G35 and then some, others may want it because of the numbers or its faster than a 911 Turbo.. personally I could care less.

[FlyingStroke240]

Skyline FTW. end of discussion.

[iloveboost]

what does it matter if someone can afford one or not. so your saying that just because i can't afford a supra i can't have an opinion on it. Be real.

And forgive me that I got the name of the car wrong but ummm where the hell are you getting your info?Last I checked the GTR beat the Z06 around the Nurburgring by 10 seconds.
That's EXACTLY what I'm saying. You don't own one, haven't owned one, haven't modded one, driven one to it's full potential against another car so how can you lay claim to it being the best car for $70k?

You are the definition of a fanboy.

[OneSlow5pt0]

well ive never driven a GTR or a C6 Z06

but i can say in exterior the Vette wins

and y is this only between the vette and GTR? what bout the new Viper coming out,and for the money i think the best car is a elise

[umairejaz]

What about the Mercedes C63? Its going to be a beast as well.
6.2 Liter V8, 450hp, and only ~$60,000! Well worth considering as well!

http://images.motortrend.com/roadtests/sedans/112_0709_02z+2008_mercedes_benz_c63_AMG+front_thre e_quarter_view.jpg

[Alan®]

That's EXACTLY what I'm saying. You don't own one, haven't owned one, haven't modded one, driven one to it's full potential against another car so how can you lay claim to it being the best car for $70k?

You are the definition of a fanboy.
If that's the case the what the hell is the point of having a Car Talk section on IA? As it seems the answer is none right out. Because according to you there is no point for anyone to have an opinion on any car other than the one they currently own or previously owned. Which in turn means you shouldn't have posted in here in the first place. Look if your not gonna throw anything somewhat constructive in hear then just don't post so that the other of us who would like to actually discuss the car can without your bull ****

[OneSlow5pt0]

What about the Mercedes C63? Its going to be a beast as well.
6.2 Liter V8, 450hp, and only ~$60,000! Well worth considering as well!



yea,and so is the CTS-V and SLK55 AMG........both great cars,but i think they would fall be low them on the track.or i could be wrong,but id deff rock a slk55 over the vette and GTR

[Z33_kid]

very nice car indeed some people are tryin to get it for invoice price but i highley doubt it they are gonna have to wait for a long time for that llol

[nvmysrt]

the new GTR is a car to be reckoned with no matter the price or make.

[Elbow]

I am willing to bet when they come, they will not be nearly as dominate at track days as you all think.

[tony]

What about the Mercedes C63? Its going to be a beast as well.
6.2 Liter V8, 450hp, and only ~$60,000! Well worth considering as well!

http://images.motortrend.com/roadtests/sedans/112_0709_02z+2008_mercedes_benz_c63_AMG+front_thre e_quarter_view.jpg

New M3 smacks it around on the track, proof provided if you want.

[juanito]

its ok

[umairejaz]

New M3 smacks it around on the track, proof provided if you want.

Yes I'm quite aware of that but this thing would be soo much fun to drive everyday! I don't plan on becoming a racecar driver so I wouldn't spend much time on the track as I would driving to and from work everday powersliding every turn i get :P

[umairejaz]

yea,and so is the CTS-V and SLK55 AMG........both great cars,but i think they would fall be low them on the track.or i could be wrong,but id deff rock a slk55 over the vette and GTR


ehhh, i've had my fun with a roadster. I don't think i could own one again. Too impracticle for everday driving. As for the cts-v, looks superb but I dont think I would purchase a new Cadillac.

[chituntang]

What does the Z06 runs around the Nürburgring again? If I have the chance to pick between a Z06 or a GTR, I would pick the Z06, but the Skyline is still a faster car over all.

[Capt._Ron]

What does the Z06 runs around the Nürburgring again? If I have the chance to pick between a Z06 or a GTR, I would pick the Z06, but the Skyline is still a faster car over all.

I used to think that the Nurburg ring times mattered until a friend of mine explained to me that it has way to many variables to be a good comparison. Basically if you have a driver who is willing to go balls to the wall and seriously risk his life above and beyond what normal track hazards would be then he could pick up a significant amount of time. Its sort of like saying my car has done the 285 loop faster than yours......thats a lot of variables

[chituntang]

I am pretty sure Chevy has enough money to have its own private section there, just like Nissan and other motor companies do. My point is not saying Nurburg is the sh*t or anything, but to prove a point that it does a faster time compare to other cars. It is like you join a time attack battle and if you are bad luck enough, you would not have your fastest time down.

[Capt._Ron]

That doesn't make sense if companies have private sections then there would be no comparison because the the sections would be different maybe you mean private sessions. I don't think a decent comparison will be made until they are both on the exact same track at the exact same time. I would take either of them but i would rather build a s-chassis car that could hand both of them their asses ( yea I know thats the inner-ricer coming out ha ha). If I had equal opportunity to have the GTR or the Z06 i would take the GTR just to have something different.

[OneSlow5pt0]

and y is all cars based on one track.......y not run other courses like laguna

[OneSlow5pt0]

ehhh, i've had my fun with a roadster. I don't think i could own one again. Too impracticle for everday driving. As for the cts-v, looks superb but I dont think I would purchase a new Cadillac.

rumor is the new V may have the LS9 out of the ZR1:ninja:

[integraguy06]

If you pull up to a porsche at a stop light with a gtr, 9 times out of 10 the guy who is driving the porsche wont know that you are about to fly by him...

[Elbow]

You saying Porsche owners dont know about cars, and can't drive?? Half of the people posting are complete ricers.

[integraguy06]

im not saying the people posting in here, but im talking about the 60 year old man who has been working a 9-5 job for 20 years and has a porsche, probably wont know about a skyline unless he knows a bit about ricers, or it least wouldnt know all about the specs of one

[iloveboost]

If that's the case the what the hell is the point of having a Car Talk section on IA? As it seems the answer is none right out. Because according to you there is no point for anyone to have an opinion on any car other than the one they currently own or previously owned. Which in turn means you shouldn't have posted in here in the first place. Look if your not gonna throw anything somewhat constructive in hear then just don't post so that the other of us who would like to actually discuss the car can without your bull ****
You're an idiot. You were speculating about a car's performance you haven't driven/modded/raced against another car you haven't driven/modded/raced.. I'm sorry I don't follow your gay internet marketing racing.

When did I say you shouldn't talk about a car that you have owned before? Again, you're an idiot.


You saying Porsche owners dont know about cars, and can't drive?? Half of the people posting are complete ricers.
Quoted for truth. They are ricers in the truest form of the word.

[Big Baller]

Not to start a flame fest here because you may be right but.. the car isn't even out yet so I'm curious as to how you come to that conclusion? Because its AWD?

I'm not one of these people that thinks the new GT-R is gods gift to the road, I actually didnt want to like it but the more I read the more I can appreciate what it is. Its not even so much the performance or it can beat this or that.. I just feel on a daily basis it would keep a smile on my face in different ways. Its basically everything I wanted in a TT G35 and then some, others may want it because of the numbers or its faster than a 911 Turbo.. personally I could care less.

Yes because its AWD, first you have to understand how many cars I have driven on track. I instruct with a lot of diffrent clubs and I've owned and driven quite a few fast cars.r

AWD Cars utilize the available grip better than a rwd car...thats why they are faster on street tires than a RWD car.

I'm willing to bet a Z06 on Slicks is faster than a GTR on Slicks at Road Atlanta.

[umairejaz]

^too bad you'll have to unmount those slicks once you leave the track and for everyday driving. I don't think any of the mentioned cars are necessarily better then the other but each has its own pros and cons and accommodate for the vase amount of drivers out their and their sole intent and purpose for their purchase.

[Elbow]

im not saying the people posting in here, but im talking about the 60 year old man who has been working a 9-5 job for 20 years and has a porsche, probably wont know about a skyline unless he knows a bit about ricers, or it least wouldnt know all about the specs of one

You must not know any. Trust me, MOST Porsche owners and high end car owners are enthusiest, most know about cars. :doh:

[Kevykev]

Great, well-written article!

Definitely makes you want one!

[Jonflip29]

Well, bottom line is everybody has their own opinion about the car but it is without a doubt, a bada$$ car. Yea it is an expensive car but some people got it more than others and can afford a car like that. The word on the Z06 and the GTR...Yea the Z06 will probably take the win, tho i'm not a Vette fan, but it will give it a good run for its money. I mean damn, the car was built by testing it against a Porsche 911. Porsches are nice but have you guys ever modded or worked on them? I have and its not as easy as it looks. I don't understand why people talk down about Nissans soo much, Nissans are designed by the smartest muthafukkers on earth. Japanese designers make things so much easier to fix but more reliable than euro and/or domestic cars. I want everybody just to wait until the car hits the street so you can see it for yourselves before you down the car. And we'll how it does up against that Z06.

[tony]

Big Baller, its a BIG if.. but I am going to seriously see about getting one of those in my driveway.. when I do I'll surely take you up on that offer. (a different driver than me of course)

[Elbow]

Well, bottom line is everybody has their own opinion about the car but it is without a doubt, a bada$$ car. Yea it is an expensive car but some people got it more than others and can afford a car like that. The word on the Z06 and the GTR...Yea the Z06 will probably take the win, tho i'm not a Vette fan, but it will give it a good run for its money. I mean damn, the car was built by testing it against a Porsche 911. Porsches are nice but have you guys ever modded or worked on them? I have and its not as easy as it looks. I don't understand why people talk down about Nissans soo much, Nissans are designed by the smartest muthafukkers on earth. Japanese designers make things so much easier to fix but more reliable than euro and/or domestic cars. I want everybody just to wait until the car hits the street so you can see it for yourselves before you down the car. And we'll how it does up against that Z06.

I have worked on Porsches, performance parts might be $$$$$ but they arent THAT bad to work on.

[Jonflip29]

I have worked on Porsches, performance parts might be $$$$$ but they arent THAT bad to work on.

Yea but i'm just saying, not everybody should be touching a Porsche.

[chituntang]

That doesn't make sense if companies have private sections then there would be no comparison because the the sections would be different maybe you mean private sessions. I don't think a decent comparison will be made until they are both on the exact same track at the exact same time. I would take either of them but i would rather build a s-chassis car that could hand both of them their asses ( yea I know thats the inner-ricer coming out ha ha). If I had equal opportunity to have the GTR or the Z06 i would take the GTR just to have something different.

Did I see you yesterday between Exit 102 and Sateille Blvd? I was driving a red S14.

[Ronsam2006]

That picture says lol @ the Japanese pos playing with a real car. A car that actually looks good.

The new GTR is ugly, no matter what the reviews say about its performance I would take a Porsche over that ALLLLL day long.


Lol. I wouldnt be that harsh on the new GTR. It is simply an awesome car but of course its no Porsche or a look-a-like. It does outperform many Porsches including the Turbo 911 on the track as J. Clarkson said, but nothing can compare or imitate the upper range of Porsche cars.

[Alan®]

You're an idiot. You were speculating about a car's performance you haven't driven/modded/raced against another car you haven't driven/modded/raced.. I'm sorry I don't follow your gay internet marketing racing.

Ok let me alter what I said as I can see a little bit of what your saying but :rolleyes: whatever


yes but with the performance that this thing exhibits it should cost $400,000 it has been said by road and track car and driver and even by ceo of nissan.On paper this car is the best bang for the buck at $70,000 the Z07 is not that great and yet that car is going to be a 100k. Also don't forget ther are still two more versions of the gtr that are coming out that will be even better than this and they will still be sub 100k. The same thing could also be said about the Ford GT. 100k for a Ford quality product but 70k for a Nissan I'll take it.

better?


When did I say you shouldn't talk about a car that you haven't(fixed for you) owned before? Again, you're an idiot.

Really? :thinking: Let me refresh your memory for you as you must be going senile.


I find it hilarious about how everyone says they'll take the GTR over <insert sports car here> when the fact is maybe 0.5% of the ppl that say they will get one can actually afford one.

Second off, it's a Z06, not a Z07. The new Corvette is called ZR1. The C6Z06 would trample the GTR. The GTR might start putting up a fight from 0-60 but it definitely won't finish it.


what does it matter if someone can afford one or not. so your saying that just because i can't afford a supra i can't have an opinion on it. Be real.

And forgive me that I got the name of the car wrong but ummm where the hell are you getting your info?Last I checked the GTR beat the Z06 around the Nurburgring by 10 seconds.


That's EXACTLY what I'm saying. You don't own one, haven't owned one, haven't modded one, driven one to it's full potential against another car so how can you lay claim to it being the best car for $70k?

You are the definition of a fanboy.

Starting to ring any bells.

Again according to your logic no one should be allowed to speculate what car can compete with what other car etc. etc. if they have not owned one. Which really means no need for car talk section,Car and Driver, Road and Track, Top Gear, Autmobile, Super Street, Import Tuner, Sport Compact car or any other automotive news organization unless they themselves have owned and modded whatever car it is they are writing about.

[umairejaz]

Big Baller, its a BIG if.. but I am going to seriously see about getting one of those in my driveway.. when I do I'll surely take you up on that offer. (a different driver than me of course)

If anyone is wanting the GTR as soon as it comes out, PM me. I know a broker who might be getting his hands on a few.

[iloveboost]

Really? :thinking: Let me refresh your memory for you as you must be going senile.







Starting to ring any bells.

Again according to your logic no one should be allowed to speculate what car can compete with what other car etc. etc. if they have not owned one. Which really means no need for car talk section,Car and Driver, Road and Track, Top Gear, Autmobile, Super Street, Import Tuner, Sport Compact car or any other automotive news organization unless they themselves have owned and modded whatever car it is they are writing about.
You are comparing two cars and stating how one is better when you have never driven either, race either, or modded either car. I'm not changing what I said. You cannot attest to the performance or potential of these sports cars when you've probably never driven anything faster than your Eclipse.

Just as I cannot comment on why a Lamborghini is better than a Ferrari. They are 2 vehicles I've never driven, modded, raced, been in, etc. You go off what you read on the internet. This makes you an ignorant ricer. The reason C&D, Top Gear can rate cars is because they drive and race them. This might be a little much for you to grasp but please do try.

The GTR's 'claimed' numbers still fall way short of the Z06's PROVEN numbers/times.

As far as realibility; C6 Z06s are offered with 100,000 mile warranties. A 10sec car with a warranty and you can put whatever tires you want on there.

[Alan®]

You are comparing two cars and stating how one is better when you have never driven either, race either, or modded either car. I'm not changing what I said. You cannot attest to the performance or potential of these sports cars when you've probably never driven anything faster than your Eclipse.
Wow your wrong there but you would know i'm lying because you know me so well :rolleyes:


Just as I cannot comment on why a Lamborghini is better than a Ferrari. They are 2 vehicles I've never driven, modded, raced, been in, etc. You go off what you read on the internet. This makes you an ignorant ricer. The reason C&D, Top Gear can rate cars is because they drive and race them. This might be a little much for you to grasp but please do try.
I don't compare numbers on cars from random internet sources. I use car and driver, Road and track, Automobile etc. PROVEN RELIABLE SOURCES the only internet source i use is edmunds.



The GTR's 'claimed' numbers still fall way short of the Z06's PROVEN numbers/times.

As far as realibility; C6 Z06s are offered with 100,000 mile warranties. A 10sec car with a warranty and you can put whatever tires you want on there.
You obviously know nothing about the new z06. The new Z06 is NOT A 10SECOND CAR. IT'S AN 11.8 SECOND CAR. And your going to sit here and lecture me about what i "know" and don't "know" when you have absolutely no clue what you are talking aboout :lmfao: :thinking: :lmfao: . Get the **** outta here man before i laugh myself to oblivion.

http://www.caranddriver.com/assets/download/0703_checor_z06_comparo_ts.pdf

[Kevykev]

Threads like these are always good for laughs, not intended for laughs but laughter always "comes around."

LOL @ people who simply cannot handle an opinion that is obviously biased or simply counters their opinion.

however, carry on...

[RiceBoy]

If anyone is wanting the GTR as soon as it comes out, PM me. I know a broker who might be getting his hands on a few.


Who, is it Lawrence? Because I have been talking to him and about to put a downpayment on one upon finding out what colors and trim level he has access to.

[iloveboost]

Wow your wrong there but you would know i'm lying because you know me so well :rolleyes:

I don't compare numbers on cars from random internet sources. I use car and driver, Road and track, Automobile etc. PROVEN RELIABLE SOURCES the only internet source i use is edmunds.


You obviously know nothing about the new z06. The new Z06 is NOT A 10SECOND CAR. IT'S AN 11.8 SECOND CAR. And your going to sit here and lecture me about what i "know" and don't "know" when you have absolutely no clue what you are talking aboout :lmfao: :thinking: :lmfao: . Get the **** outta here man before i laugh myself to oblivion.

http://www.caranddriver.com/assets/download/0703_checor_z06_comparo_ts.pdf
This is exactly what I meant. You are an idiot. Stupid. Most of the people that race the car for a magazine cannot drive.

I have a Z06 and you're telling ME that the C6Z06 isn't a 10sec car? AGAIN.... YOU ARE A MAGAZINE RACING, IDIOT RICER.

10.9 is the record for the bone stock C6Z. 10.8 has been acheived with a bone stock C6Z and drag radials. This isn't magazine racing so this is why it might be hard for you to comprehend.

Go back on edmunds and pretend your Eclipse is the pinnacle of automotive performance. Go conjure up more ideas to be original with your tacky time attack style wheels. I'll trust your judgement on what's fast when you don't drive every 15-year-old girl's dream car.

[JITB]

Threads like these are always good for laughs, not intended for laughs but laughter always "comes around."

LOL @ people who simply cannot handle an opinion that is obviously biased or simply counters their opinion.

however, carry on...


get that logical **** out of here!!!! :lmfao:

[JITB]

i also dont think its fair to add variables like tires etc. i mean i like to judge a car how it rolls off the line.. not what u have to do to make it something.

stock v. stock i would bet my money on the GTR overall.. but ive never driven or owned neither!! thats just my comparison.

[matthewAPM]

Everyone makes this car sound like its the best there ever was. Its not.

I would like to see both the GTR and the Z06 on the same tires, at the same track, on the same day, with the same driver. I've seen a stock C6Z06 on road atlanta with race tires and im here to tell you, the GTR wont keep up. Anyone that has done trackdays when a vette is on the track with a good driver can tell you, it just wont happen.

The way I look at it is that the Z06 is a street legal race car and the Nissan is just a hall ass street car.

I will get a full comparison of the two up sometime (unless someone else wants to) just to show the differences between the two.

[JITB]

Everyone makes this car sound like its the best there ever was. Its not.

I would like to see both the GTR and the Z06 on the same tires, at the same track, on the same day, with the same driver. I've seen a stock C6Z06 on road atlanta with race tires and im here to tell you, the GTR wont keep up. Anyone that has done trackdays when a vette is on the track with a good driver can tell you, it just wont happen.

The way I look at it is that the Z06 is a street legal race car and the Nissan is just a hall ass street car.

I will get a full comparison of the two up sometime (unless someone else wants to) just to show the differences between the two.

i disagree not sayin its the best ever....

1st people were saying it wasnt gonna perform better than the previous GTR, it did..

than came the people saying the power isnt really there... it is

than they said it wouldnt perform on the track worth a dam... it does

now i think u all might get the GTR mixed up with the previous skyline GTR because that car was based off a previous platform. BUt the Gtr is all its own and purpose built just like the Z06.

[Alan®]

This is exactly what I meant. You are an idiot. Stupid. Most of the people that race the car for a magazine cannot drive.
And you would know this how? What are you there when they drive the car?


I have a Z06 and you're telling ME that the C6Z06 isn't a 10sec car? AGAIN.... YOU ARE A MAGAZINE RACING, IDIOT RICER.

10.9 is the record for the bone stock C6Z. 10.8 has been acheived with a bone stock C6Z and drag radials. This isn't magazine racing so this is why it might be hard for you to comprehend.
great that is a rarity though. the majority of z06's still run mid to high 11's great with drag radials the times drop.wow big surprise. but off the line they are mainly 11 second cars not 10 :rolleyes:



Go back on edmunds and pretend your Eclipse is the pinnacle of automotive performance. Go conjure up more ideas to be original with your tacky time attack style wheels. I'll trust your judgement on what's fast when you don't drive every 15-year-old girl's dream car.
When have I ever said that my car was anything other than what it is? Here's something from my other thread.


First off let me say that this car is not fast. Nor will it be
again you are obviously incapable of doing research nor do you value anyone's opinion including that of trained professionals who have been in the industry a long time. You sir are the idiot not I.

[matthewAPM]

i disagree not sayin its the best ever....

1st people were saying it wasnt gonna perform better than the previous GTR, it did..

than came the people saying the power isnt really there... it is

than they said it wouldnt perform on the track worth a dam... it does

now i think u all might get the GTR mixed up with the previous skyline GTR because that car was based off a previous platform. BUt the Gtr is all its own and purpose built just like the Z06.

Yeah, so does the vette. Until I see a comparision on the same day, same track, and same tires...im going to go with the vette. Dont get me wrong, the GTR is one sick car and is one of top cars in its class but i dont think its what everyone is making it seem like.

This is what I cant wait to see. The GTR run against the vette, viper, and ferrari in T1 with the SCCA. The cars are stock and most run on the same tire.

POWER to WEIGHT
GTR-3794lbs. (autoweek) with 473hp= 8.021
Z06-3162lbs. (chevrolet) with 505hp=6.261

[tony]

Just out of curiosity.. if my memory serves me right didnt the GT-R run 2 seconds faster than the Z06 at the Nurburgring? At this point that is the only real comparison we have of the two.

I'm not going to say one is better than the other, if the GT-R didnt have a back seat I wouldnt even consider it.

[On_Her_Face]

ZR-1 > C6Z06 > GTR > C6 :(

[matthewAPM]

Just out of curiosity.. if my memory serves me right didnt the GT-R run 2 seconds faster than the Z06 at the Nurburgring? At this point that is the only real comparison we have of the two.

I'm not going to say one is better than the other, if the GT-R didnt have a back seat I wouldnt even consider it.

have u ever raced or watched a race in ur entire life? on a track that long, a twitch of the wheel can be 2 seconds. not running on the same day can be 2 seconds. a lift on the gas or tap on the brakes can be 2 seconds.

its impossible to run a perfect lap at the ring or any track for that matter. thats why i would like to see them in a race. just because u ran the fastest time doesnt mean u have the fastest car...it means u made the least mistakes.

[iloveboost]

And you would know this how? What are you there when they drive the car?

great that is a rarity though. the majority of z06's still run mid to high 11's great with drag radials the times drop.wow big surprise. but off the line they are mainly 11 second cars not 10 :rolleyes:


When have I ever said that my car was anything other than what it is? Here's something from my other thread.


again you are obviously incapable of doing research nor do you value anyone's opinion including that of trained professionals who have been in the industry a long time. You sir are the idiot not I.
Now I remember why I hate arguing with idiot ricers.

Your opinion is worth less than moldy bread.

[Kevykev]

get that logical **** out of here!!!! :lmfao:

Always funny when you call out my rational thoughts. You're right man, drama sells.




YOU ARE A MAGAZINE RACING, IDIOT RICER.

I have never heard anyone get called that before.

:lmfao:

[tony]

have u ever raced or watched a race in ur entire life? on a track that long, a twitch of the wheel can be 2 seconds. not running on the same day can be 2 seconds. a lift on the gas or tap on the brakes can be 2 seconds.

its impossible to run a perfect lap at the ring or any track for that matter. thats why i would like to see them in a race. just because u ran the fastest time doesnt mean u have the fastest car...it means u made the least mistakes.

:blah: The car isnt even out yet and you're already making excuses. My lack of experience at the track does not discredit official data presented by both manufacturers.. if they're not perfect then don't present it but since they did I will have to assume they were perfect laps.. respectively.

By your logic if the GT-R comes in even a second slower theres an excuse to be found as to why.. I'm sorry I guess mathewAPM has to approve them for them to be official. Don't tell me if the Z06 posted a faster time you wouldn't quote that for the sake of argument.

Just the fact that we are comparing a car that can transport a family of 3 or 4, that I can drive up north to go snowboarding AND still hit the track and be considered a competitor is all the convincing I need. Its a no brainer on my part.

[Alan®]

Now I remember why I hate arguing with idiot ricers.

Your opinion is worth less than moldy bread.
don't be mad cause i keep smashing your aguments to oblivion :goodjob:

[matthewAPM]

:blah: The car isnt even out yet and you're already making excuses. My lack of experience at the track does not discredit official data presented by both manufacturers.. if they're not perfect then don't present it but since they did I will have to assume they were perfect laps.. respectively.

By your logic if the GT-R comes in even a second slower theres an excuse to be found as to why.. I'm sorry I guess mathewAPM has to approve them for them to be official. Don't tell me if the Z06 posted a faster time you wouldn't quote that for the sake of argument.

Just the fact that we are comparing a car that can transport a family of 3 or 4, that I can drive up north to go snowboarding AND still hit the track and be considered a competitor is all the convincing I need. Its a no brainer on my part.

number 1 its not an excuse, its the truth. dont talk until u have experience doing it.

but there not. no one can ever do a perfect lap. not possible at all.

actually no. im not a hardcore chevy fan. im just saying that everyone is hating on the vette because it got beat by 2 seconds. if someone was hating on the skyline i would have said the same thing, im not saying this because i like vettes, im saying this because people think that the 2 seconds were because the car was faster.

its what u like. everyone has a different opinion. and i respect that. but its when people think they know something when they really dont that i argue.

[iloveboost]

I have never heard anyone get called that before.

:lmfao:
Heh. Kind of like dyno racers and "when I get these mods on" racers. He is taking things to new heights and racing magazine articles.

Sorry to clutter your thread, Tony. You know I still like ya... even if you will have the slower car, lol. :D I kid, I kid...

For an all-around car, I will agree the GTR will get the job done.

[Member31410]

This is exactly what I meant. You are an idiot. Stupid. Most of the people that race the car for a magazine cannot drive.

I have a Z06 and you're telling ME that the C6Z06 isn't a 10sec car? AGAIN.... YOU ARE A MAGAZINE RACING, IDIOT RICER.

10.9 is the record for the bone stock C6Z. 10.8 has been acheived with a bone stock C6Z and drag radials. This isn't magazine racing so this is why it might be hard for you to comprehend.

Go back on edmunds and pretend your Eclipse is the pinnacle of automotive performance. Go conjure up more ideas to be original with your tacky time attack style wheels. I'll trust your judgement on what's fast when you don't drive every 15-year-old girl's dream car.

:smileowne

Gotta love the magazine racers. :lmao:

[tony]

number 1 its not an excuse, its the truth. dont talk until u have experience doing it.

but there not. no one can ever do a perfect lap. not possible at all.

actually no. im not a hardcore chevy fan. im just saying that everyone is hating on the vette because it got beat by 2 seconds. if someone was hating on the skyline i would have said the same thing, im not saying this because i like vettes, im saying this because people think that the 2 seconds were because the car was faster.

its what u like. everyone has a different opinion. and i respect that. but its when people think they know something when they really dont that i argue.

I have zero experience but I am quoting a source that has plenty.. its called second hand experience from a reliable source. What you offer is an assumption since you have driven neither one.

Numbers do not lie. I don't care if the Z06 driver picked his nose during his lap, the GT-R got from point A to point B faster than the Z06. I just explained this to my 6 year old and he nodded his head so surely you can understand what I am explaining here.

As I said, I did not want to like the GT-R. I wanted it to fail miserably so I could feel good about having a better car years ago.. but it hasnt.. whether you like what people are saying or not you have to admit Nissan has shaken up the market.. to the point where we are here bickering over a car we've yet to even see in person.

Daniel.. no hard feelings but if I get one of these we will definitely be meeting up.
:D

[matthewAPM]

I have zero experience but I am quoting a source that has plenty.. its called second hand experience from a reliable source. What you offer is an assumption since you have driven neither one.

Numbers do not lie. I don't care if the Z06 driver picked his nose during his lap, the GT-R got from point A to point B faster than the Z06. I just explained this to my 6 year old and he nodded his head so surely you can understand what I am explaining here.

As I said, I did not want to like the GT-R. I wanted it to fail miserably so I could feel good about having a better car years ago.. but it hasnt.. whether you like what people are saying or not you have to admit Nissan has shaken up the market.. to the point where we are here bickering over a car we've yet to even see in person.

Daniel.. no hard feelings but if I get one of these we will definitely be meeting up.
:D

u sure about that? not a GTR obviously...

i dont feel like arguing with dumbass people. read a little then come back to this thread

[tony]

lol This has dwindled down to name calling.. its just entertaining to see folks get in a hissy fit over a car that isn't in production here in the U.S. Even if you have driven a Z06 I don't think that makes you an expert of what the GT-R is capable of.. either way, as long as the owner has a grin on his face at the end of the day thats all that matters.

[DecoyOctopus]

what i have read about the car really impressed me. it beat cars like the mclaren slr around the nuremberg or however you spell it track and they claim it is a ultra low emmision vehicle. thats like a hybrid civic am i mistaken? its not gonna be the fastest thing but i think its original in design and extremly fast for the price. sounds like a winner to me

[Kaiser]

Amen to that.

I wouldn't own that overpriced Jap crap.

If I'm going to spenk 70K its going to be on a new Z06

Your performance will be less, you will be more common, and you will have more issues with reliability. For the same price. I like Corvettes, but what they keep putting out...

[Capt._Ron]

Did I see you yesterday between Exit 102 and Sateille Blvd? I was driving a red S14.

Probably not my car is solid black now. Do you participate in any local drift events?

[Capt._Ron]

ZR-1 > C6Z06 > GTR > C6 :(

Man you were really close but you forgot probably to most awesome factory built race car of all time it really goes s13>ZR-1>C6Z06>GTR>C6

Ha ha IA is like 10 times better drunk :yes:

[JITB]

matthew took a gtr around road atlanta....

[takume]

gtr is a great car. but i rather have a r34, thanks.

[umairejaz]

as long as the owner has a grin on his face at the end of the day thats all that matters.



QFT.

[tony]

I've watched this vid over and over and the novelty of it just doesnt seem to wear off

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D500ZlkYqtQ

[JITB]

I've watched this vid over and over and the novelty of it just doesnt seem to wear off

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D500ZlkYqtQ

when u get ur gtr, can i have a ride please sir! :cry:

[tony]

Its more IF than when, talked to one stealership and they're saying the US is only getting 2000 this year and expect a $35k markup from the start.. I'll pass till things calm down. We will see.

[JITB]

bleh.... so what it will be around 100k? with the markup

[Crazy Asian]

**** that. By the time we wait the GTR V-SPEC will prob be release or NISMO GTR

[matthewAPM]

matthew took a gtr around road atlanta....

haha. i wish. i havent even done it in a video game.

[OnURleft]

matthew took a gtr around road atlanta....

That'd be suprising if it was a new one already. Not at all suprising after this year is over.

[matthewAPM]

That'd be suprising if it was a new one already. Not at all suprising after this year is over.

i love being an instructor...

[OnURleft]

i love being an instructor...

Instructing on a road course has to be so much more fun. Damn ignorant, snotty rich, whiney teenage Richard Petty kids sure can be annoying sometimes.

[matthewAPM]

Instructing on a road course has to be so much more fun. Damn ignorant, snotty rich, whiney teenage Richard Petty kids sure can be annoying sometimes.

drifting ur 540 until the tires are gone and the diff lets go...awesome. autox insturcting is fun too. SCCA autox lisence FTW.

whats better than free track time? and i need someone to run with me. BTW, i talked to madre about M3...laffing...but im selling one of my sets of wheels for some 14x7 team dynamics and hoosiers. 1:44 anyone?

[OnURleft]

drifting ur 540 until the tires are gone and the diff lets go...awesome. autox insturcting is fun too. SCCA autox lisence FTW.

whats better than free track time? and i need someone to run with me. BTW, i talked to madre about M3...laffing...but im selling one of my sets of wheels for some 14x7 team dynamics and hoosiers. 1:44 anyone?

nice nice. we need to discuss getting the PDX thing (sp?) soon. I'm ready for that.

[matthewAPM]

nice nice. we need to discuss getting the PDX thing (sp?) soon. I'm ready for that.

fo sho. SCCA___for this season. koni ST next...

[dwreck579]

this car looks freakin amazingto me. anyone know how much it will cost?

[silvers2k]

if i could only afford it, id be all over it