This country is going to hell in a hand basket

[Alan®]

It really is between the new law they just passed on college students, Congress getting in the middle of a football game, and being taxed now so that people who can't afford to watch tv will now have money coming to them so that they can seriosuly :thinking: WTF?!?!?!?!?! Obesity is up and people know the health risks of that so when parents don't feed their kids they get DFCS on them but they don't if their toddler is 20lbs overweight? People making stupid decisions on their mortgages and they want the government to bail them out?


It's ridiculous. The only way to get ahead in this country is through an education yet college students are now being held to the same tax rates as their parents who make 5x(in my case 50x) so that in the end they really can't afford it. Yet at the same time the stupid people who can't even get a job are now getting checks for the governments so that they can watch tv? And now congress is saying that the NFL channel is interfering with ANTI-Trust laws by not allowing other networks to show the Pats vs. Giants game? I mean come on What's next Pay Per View will be outlawed.

This Country NEEDS A WAKE UP CALL!

[ahmonrah]

well.....to challenge government is "unpatriotic" blah...blah....blah......besides, where the hell have you been??!! the throat of this country has been slit open for a while now........it's being bled dry, has been for years

[Alan®]

well.....to challenge government is "unpatriotic" blah...blah....blah......besides, where the hell have you been??!! the throat of this country has been slit open for a while now........it's being bled dry, has been for years
:thinking: :lmfao: :blah: Where do you live last time I checked this was still america where my 1st ammendment allowed me to peacefully protest but with the way things are going that could have changed without us knowing

[§treet_§peed]

you know that the prisons now have satelite tv right?

[R3RUN]

:thinking: :lmfao: :blah: Where do you live last time I checked this was still america where my 1st ammendment allowed me to peacefully protest but with the way things are going that could have changed without us knowing
I think he was being sarcastic. BTW did you see that the senate opened for 11 seconds to block bush from appointing people. Ballin, bush blowwwwwssssssss.

[§treet_§peed]

like i said in the other thread,. we need to hae some one tell the public what is really going on, the truth. and tell them of ****ing stupid america is and the people in it. they need to see reality and quit living in a dream world. but if someone actually did say everything like it needs to be said.. they would be shot.. because there are certain people that do not want to have the public woken up because of various and OBVIOUS reasons...

[nreggie454]

you know that the prisons now have satelite tv right?

Which REALLY pisses me off. It is PRISON. I think the only luxury allowed in a prison should be a library and a rec yard so that you can get educated and stay in shape.

[Alan®]

something to consider the average empire only lasts something like 300-400 years we are getting closer every year to the 300 year mark

[Psycho]

I blame it on the Mexicans.

[devinwebb907]

i doubt they have satellite in prison, at least for inmates.

but beyond the fact, **** that. poor as lazy mother ****ers who dont have jobs make more money than i do [only because i dont have time to work more---im overloading in school]. now i have to pay the same as you becasue the parents that claim me both make 100k+ combined 250-300k. yeah pretty much taxes are going to ruin me. thank you lazy bitchy liberals.

ps. dont vote for hillary clinton[stupid liberal ***** is only going to make taxes worse]. im voting for guiliani, that man said he could end illegal immigration.

[ahmonrah]

:thinking: :lmfao: :blah: Where do you live? last time I checked, this was still america where my 1st ammendment allowed me to peacefully protest but with the way things are going that could have changed without us knowingwhat is a protest gonna get, but you standing outside a building that all of our taxdollars payed for, while those you're protesting to/about/against are giggling with corporate lobbyists that has just signed over a check for 250k to buy his vote on bigger tax breaks for corporations....

[§treet_§peed]

^ **** happens

[§treet_§peed]

vote me for president.. no more unfair taxes eqaul taxes only... no more illegals.. if you get caught hoppin the border your brown ass will be shot on the spot.. marijauna ill be legal treat it like alcohol.. and some other things would change

[devinwebb907]

when are you running? got my vote everywhere there.

[devinwebb907]

You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to §treet_§peed again.

guess i dont spread reputation very often? couldnt tell you how many months its been...

[Alan®]

what is a protest gonna get, but you standing outside a building that all of our taxdollars payed for, while those you're protesting to/about/against are giggling with corporate lobbyists that has just signed over a check for 250k to buy his vote on bigger tax breaks for corporations....
Wow you really are as stupid as you seem copied from my other thread.

It's gotten ridiculous this year as far as taxes have gone. People don't understand a lot of things that are going on right now and you can thank the media for that. The media complains of large unemployment yet we are at the lowest unemployment rate ever? The media says that college graduate should consider weighting tables yet corporations are fighting with eachother over up coming graduates creating higher wages. I did some research the economy has increased 20x since the 80's yet our ecconomy sucks? Sorry someone has to call bull****. Did ya'll know that corporations in the U.S. pay higher Corporate taxes than anywhere else in the world and yet in the first quarter of this year Exxon posted the highest grossing quarter for any company in any sector EVER and Hillary Clinton came back and said that they made TOO MUCH money and wanted to RAISE corporate taxes? Yet we live in a free market ecconomy


Now after reading that do you really think that corporations are stupid enough to believe that someone is really going to lower taxes?I don't think so

[§treet_§peed]

as soon as i get enough moey to have a campaigne. who wants to be vice president. and think about it honestly... you know 99% of the people would vote for you if you came out and straight up said that.

[Alan®]

Make me your VP so i can at least help keep your ass straight I have exhibited knowledge

[§treet_§peed]

it happens don't sweat it

[§treet_§peed]

Make me your VP so i can at least help keep your ass straight I have exhibited knowledge ll your it then your the first to reply plus you got college cred hahaha

[Alan®]

YAY^^^

BOT

[devinwebb907]

i got you. equal taxes, less welfare, legalize pot, bye bye immigrants, anything else?

[Alan®]

Which REALLY pisses me off. It is PRISON. I think the only luxury allowed in a prison should be a library and a rec yard so that you can get educated and stay in shape.
:goodjob:

[§treet_§peed]

i think i would get shot tho cause if i did make it in my first words would be.. "Alright fat ass's. Lets loose weight, get rid of illegals, go take over mexico, and fair taxes are in. O btw, AMERICA IS FULL OF SOME OF THE MOST ****ING STUPID PEOPLE I HAVE EVER SEEN AND THE PEOPLE RUNNING IT ARE EVEN ****ING WORSE." then i would pretty much get shot... lol

[tony]

Fair tax..

Devin, Giuliani is about as crooked as it gets.. the idea here is to elect a candidate that is for the people.. just because you were at ground zero doesn't make you a humanitarian.

Too much government intervention going on but the only way to fight it is to educate yourselves, question EVERYTHING and elect the proper candidates.

[§treet_§peed]

lol thing is i don't even smoke pot. haven't smoked it since i was 15.. well i have like 3 times just for my friends b-day and one of his last parties he would ever have.

[tony]

And I'm sure all of your ancestors at one time were imigrants, that "problem" is not going to go away easily.. not the way you guys expect it to at least.

[devinwebb907]

i dont care, he said he would end illegal immigration, and he isnt a ***** liberal *****. got my vote until i hear something better. white male candidates FTW

[§treet_§peed]

Fair tax..

Devin, Giuliani is about as crooked as it gets.. the idea here is to elect a candidate that is for the people.. just because you were at ground zero doesn't make you a humanitarian.

Too much government intervention going on but the only way to fight it is to educate yourselves, question EVERYTHING and elect the proper candidates. good point

[tony]

Devin, politicians love people like you..

[devinwebb907]

at least the white males do

[§treet_§peed]

And I'm sure all of your ancestors at one time were imigrants, that "problem" is not going to go away easily.. not the way you guys expect it to at least. lol only half of me is. i am almost half Cheerokee Indian. but ot sure on the other half lol. my way of ending it would be to just simply go take over mexico. it would be a hell of alot cheaper in the long run think about it. plus they all wanna come to america, guess what they don't even have to leave there house, cause they would be part of america.

[§treet_§peed]

another thing.. i am too young anyways.. you have to be a old fart to be president.. AGE DISCRIMINATION FTL...

[tony]

End NAFTA and you begin to solve the problem. Mexicans migrate to the U.S because the jobs here pay 5 to 10 times more than they do in Mexico, all they have to do is cross the border so that is a pretty damn good incentive to come over here and plant your seed. If they could make a comparable salary in their native country then the incentive to leave is gone.

NAFTA (North American Free Trade Agreement) allows U.S farmers to sell their produce that is subsidized by the U.S government in Mexico at a much cheaper price than any of the farmers in Mexico, this is a KILLER for their economy.

Basically the American government brought this upon their selves. If you could make $150k in Canada for a job that pays $30k here wouldn't you risk everything to cross the border as well? Do not blame the imigrants.. as I said before educate your self on the issues at hand and not eat up the bull **** that the media feeds you.

[ueyedgr8tness]

LOL i will vote for whoever gets rid of the irs cause them bit**es be killing me.

[ahmonrah]

Wow you really are as stupid as you seem copied from my other thread.

It's gotten ridiculous this year as far as taxes have gone. People don't understand a lot of things that are going on right now and you can thank the media for that. The media complains of large unemployment yet we are at the lowest unemployment rate ever? The media says that college graduate should consider weighting tables yet corporations are fighting with eachother over up coming graduates creating higher wages. I did some research the economy has increased 20x since the 80's yet our ecconomy sucks? Sorry someone has to call bull****. Did ya'll know that corporations in the U.S. pay higher Corporate taxes than anywhere else in the world and yet in the first quarter of this year Exxon posted the highest grossing quarter for any company in any sector EVER and Hillary Clinton came back and said that they made TOO MUCH money and wanted to RAISE corporate taxes? Yet we live in a free market ecconomy


Now after reading that do you really think that corporations are stupid enough to believe that someone is really going to lower taxes?I don't think sostupid? nah...copied from your other thread? no i didnt look til after i written what i did here. attempted insults....hold those.

back to topic. they may be paying higher taxes but from the way shyt looks, gorging is what is happening with most corporations. hey dude, go google me the total amount of corporation that hire ONLY american workers and dont outsource or run sweat shops. let me know how many of the products that american consumers buy, are made by american hands, thus ensuring those that buy the goods are helping keep americans working.
oh...and instead of trying to insult me, how 'bout creating some worthwhile organization that will bring your googling power to the forefront and these fact you spout to light.
like what i seen growning up in the 80's, i'd rather pay a little more for good if i knew those things were made in this country, by american workers.

but here's what protesting normally gets.
http://cache.viewimages.com/xc/1137107.jpg?v=1&c=ViewImages&k=2&d=17A4AD9FDB9CF1939057D9939C83F10604F914239E4A29DF 5A5397277B4DC33E

[n2daizo123]

LOL i will vote for whoever gets rid of the irs cause them bit**es be killing me.
That would be Ron Paul wanting to get rid of the IRS. And illegal drugs being legalized will never happen, the government makes too much money off of it for that.

[nreggie454]

That would be Ron Paul wanting to get rid of the IRS. And illegal drugs being legalized will never happen, the government makes too much money off of it for that.

Making money by spending billions on the War on Drugs.... riiiiiiiight. The only people who make money off of illegal drugs are drug dealers.

[n2daizo123]

Making money by spending billions on the War on Drugs.... riiiiiiiight. The only people who make money off of illegal drugs are drug dealers.
The war on Drugs was never about stopping the inflow of drugs, just controlling who was profiting.

[ahmonrah]

The war on Drugs was never about stopping the inflow of drugs, just controlling who was profiting.cha-ching!!:goodjob:

[Crazy Asian]

Its soon or later a revolution is gonna happen. I swear i can forsee this **** happening.

BTW...WHERE THE **** AM I GONNA WATCH THE PAT VS GIANT GAME!!!???

[SampaGuy]

something to consider the average empire only lasts something like 300-400 years we are getting closer every year to the 300 year mark

only part of this thread that is somewhat interesting

[nreggie454]

only part of this thread that is somewhat interesting
It's cool, we have 69 more years for it to get worse. Then the true fall begins in the year 2076 for the US.

[n2daizo123]

It's cool, we have 69 more years for it to get worse. Then the true fall begins in the year 2076 for the US.
Where do you get your information from.(not bashing)

[tony]

Still looking for a reliable source for this bill that passed.

[Dirty Octopus™]

yo Momma makes handbaskets!! :2up: :tongue1:

[§treet_§peed]

but honestly... **** is realy ****ed up now days. we need someone that wil ot be afraid to to America how ****ing stupid we are.

[Dirty Octopus™]

but honestly... **** is realy ****ed up now days. we need someone that wil ot be afraid to to America how ****ing stupid we are.
huh? :thinking:

run that back

[BuBBa DRiFT]

unions are partially the reason why outsourcing in america is so popular. if it takes an all american company 98 cents to make a hammer, but their Japanese counterpart who makes an equal quality hammer can make it for 14 cents because of the outsourcing and non unionized at will labor, the company is almost forced to over seas to increase profits and revenue.

America is almost forced to allow outsourcing because of the tariffs other countries place on our exports. Unlike America which allows free (or should I say minimal tax) on imports, we are charged up the ass for what is claimed to be an inferior product.

America is a capitalist free enterprise country where competition in which everyone competes for the number one spot, by competing expansion and growth in all areas are achieved. Unlike the socialist democracy the '08 Democratic consequentialist libertarians are claiming, this idea would never work in a country that has such apoor medical system already. By socializing medicine, you would wait in line for hours for a checkup. Social medicine would make you dependent on the government, and thats what they want. Do any of you honestly think the government is going to give a damn if you have a rare uncurable brain disease? Think again. You think government funding is hard enough as it is (this country has over a trillion dollar debt and is forced to simply create money out of thin air, causing inflation and a large increase in taxing) try adding one of the most expensive articles the government has to deal with now, put them in charge, you will surely not succeed. The whole democratic concept is flawed, and only the minorities, which (no offense) a large percent of them happen to be poor and uneducated, believe this is the right thing for their personal benefit. A social democracy will NEVER work in a capitalist country, a capitalist country is unfortunately a "rich mans" world, but without that monetary motivation, I truly think nothing would get done. Sad, but true.




and THIS: is what a peaceful protest looks like, the fact that the government would waste time on riot control for a peace and/or government protest is rediculous, especially considered the topic we are discussing is not even a serious controversial topic.

http://www.abc.net.au/reslib/200701/r124236_403185.jpg


http://depts.washington.edu/civilr/images/bpp/wsa/black%20panthers%202-28-69.jpg

i think there is a difference.

[§treet_§peed]

lol we need a wake up call

[nreggie454]

Where do you get your information from.(not basing)
July 4, 2076 = USA's 300th birthday.

[Glides]

:thinking: :lmfao: :blah: Where do you live last time I checked this was still america where my 1st ammendment allowed me to peacefully protest but with the way things are going that could have changed without us knowing

Sure, your first ammendment right's allow you to whine and ***** just like everyone else. Sad truth is, nobody is listening. Americans are sheep and the government is the shephard. We do what they say, we think what they say and we live the way they say to live, but we complain under our breaths but never DO anything.

The difference between America and the rest of the world is this: In the rest of the world, the government is scared of the people, in America, the people are scared of the government. Our government knows they can get away with damm near anything up to and including: Double and triple taxing, censorship, election rigging and many more. You don't think elections are rigged do you? You think that whoever gets the most votes wins right? Wrong. Electoral college determines the lions share of who wins an election.

Until Americans stop being led by the short and curlys and rise up against one of the most corrupt governments on the planet, nothing will change and we will continue to be the laughing stock of the entire world.

[BuBBa DRiFT]

Sure, your first ammendment right's allow you to whine and ***** just like everyone else. Sad truth is, nobody is listening. Americans are sheep and the government is the shephard. We do what they say, we think what they say and we live the way they say to live, but we complain under our breaths but never DO anything.

The difference between America and the rest of the world is this: In the rest of the world, the government is scared of the people, in America, the people are scared of the government. Our government knows they can get away with damm near anything up to and including: Double and triple taxing, censorship, election rigging and many more. You don't think elections are rigged do you? You think that whoever gets the most votes wins right? Wrong. Electoral college determines the lions share of who wins an election.

Until Americans stop being led by the short and curlys and rise up against one of the most corrupt governments on the planet, nothing will change and we will continue to be the laughing stock of the entire world.




if me and you were both gay, id love you. :cry:

[n2daizo123]

July 4, 2076 = USA's 300th birthday.
Ahh, but i think it will happen sooner than that.

[Alan®]

stupid? nah...copied from your other thread? no i didnt look til after i written what i did here. attempted insults....hold those.

back to topic. they may be paying higher taxes but from the way shyt looks, gorging is what is happening with most corporations. hey dude, go google me the total amount of corporation that hire ONLY american workers and dont outsource or run sweat shops. let me know how many of the products that american consumers buy, are made by american hands, thus ensuring those that buy the goods are helping keep americans working.
oh...and instead of trying to insult me, how 'bout creating some worthwhile organization that will bring your googling power to the forefront and these fact you spout to light.
like what i seen growning up in the 80's, i'd rather pay a little more for good if i knew those things were made in this country, by american workers.

but here's what protesting normally gets.
http://cache.viewimages.com/xc/1137107.jpg?v=1&c=ViewImages&k=2&d=17A4AD9FDB9CF1939057D9939C83F10604F914239E4A29DF 5A5397277B4DC33E

Google?Nah it's called knowing how to do actual reasearch on your own without having people l :goodjob: ead you in one decision or another.


in the first quarter of this year Exxon posted the highest grossing quarter for any company in any sector EVER and Hillary Clinton came back and said that they made TOO MUCH money and wanted to RAISE corporate taxes

Link that supports my statement
http://www.townhall.com/columnists/LawrenceKudlow/2007/02/08/when_you_tax_profits,_you_tax_people?page=2



Did ya'll know that corporations in the U.S. pay higher Corporate taxes than anywhere else in the world
Here's the link to support this statement as well we are second to italy who pays .2% higher than us.


Want to complain about not being able to buy american look no further than american this statment is right on the money

unions are partially the reason why outsourcing in america is so popular. if it takes an all american company 98 cents to make a hammer, but their Japanese counterpart who makes an equal quality hammer can make it for 14 cents because of the outsourcing and non unionized at will labor, the company is almost forced to over seas to increase profits and revenue.


It's for this exact reason why Ford and GM are having such a hard time staying competitive

Research is your friend

[Glides]

Red GT and Kitty KA-T are right. It doesn't take much to educate oneself on how things work. We are our own worst enemies in our economy. Unions+inferior products+people living well beyond their means = USA in the toilet.

[n2daizo123]

Its soon or later a revolution is gonna happen. I swear i can forsee this **** happening.

BTW...WHERE THE **** AM I GONNA WATCH THE PAT VS GIANT GAME!!!???
I dont see a revolution. People fear the government too much for that. REX 84 is one of the reasons for fear. Info on it here LINK (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rex_84)

[Alan®]

Its soon or later a revolution is gonna happen. I swear i can forsee this **** happening.

BTW...WHERE THE **** AM I GONNA WATCH THE PAT VS GIANT GAME!!!???
Simulcast bro CBS and NBC and NFL network if I remember right