Tired of breaking loose. Whats a good street tire.

[-S Double C-]

Well i got rid of my old 17x7.5 and 18x8.5 rims with 235/35/18's b/c my car was breaking loose in 4th gear at over 100mph and i didnt like that ****. Now i have a set of 18x10 wheels with 275/40/18 and im still spinning all of 1st, and 2nd and most of 3rd. Ive changed up my suspension as well...i had jic flt a2 but they was way to stiff for the track. Now im running kyb agx's with tanabe springs. Whats a good sticky tire to run on the streets? But wont wear out fast as ****? Azenis maybe?

[big mac]

go with the bfgoodrich gforce or the toyo proxies

[takume]

i think Azenis wear out pretty fast. I use yokohama es100 and pretty happy with it.

[GGPIS3]

18x10s.. 275s... hmm bfg kd's drag radials come to mind. how much power you putting down? rwd?

[matthewAPM]

Bridgestone RE-01r. They last longer than the falkens and are about .7 sec faster on a 60 second track. in autocross we get about 140 runs on the falkens and about 170+ on the bridgestones. If u want a LOT of grip and dont plan on driving in the rain, i would get a set of Kumho V710's or Hoosier A6's (hoosiers cost more).

but like i was saying, bridgestones have been tested and are the fastest street tire with a tread wear rating of 140 and up. another tire to look out for is the new toy coming out in 2008. when it is shaved 3/32 it should be fast.

[-S Double C-]

18x10s.. 275s... hmm bfg kd's drag radials come to mind. how much power you putting down? rwd?

im guessing around 360-380

[BABY J]

I'd say your suspension is too hard. That's not a lot of power (no offense).

[GGPIS3]

i would just run drag radials.. when i made 400 rwhp and i switched from regular street tires 255's... to 245's in drag radials, it made a huge difference. all that extra traction = more power

[-S Double C-]

I'd say your suspension is too hard. That's not a lot of power (no offense).

i doubt the agx's are to hard...i can push my rear up and down. It's fairly soft. Now the JICS were wayyyyy to hard...i was breaking loose in 4th. And your right...it isnt now but im about to tune it and im shooting for 460-500whp

[BABY J]

^^ That's what's up!!! I hope u dial it in man -

[Jaimecbr900]

What kind of car is this that breaks loose at 100mph with 380whp?

[Big J]

i doubt the agx's are to hard...i can push my rear up and down. It's fairly soft. Now the JICS were wayyyyy to hard...i was breaking loose in 4th. And your right...it isnt now but im about to tune it and im shooting for 460-500whp

Ok, FWD drag suspension 101.

When you have weight transfer to the rear of a FWD car, you loose traction.

You want the spring rates and dampening high and the rebound setting low for the rear to prevent transfer and provide a quick shift back.

In the front you want a lower spring rate, dampening lower and rebound higher.

[BABY J]

I assume his car is RWD (look at the wheel sizes mentioned)

[Z32redondo]

Ok, FWD drag suspension 101.

When you have weight transfer to the rear of a FWD car, you loose traction.

You want the spring rates and dampening high and the rebound setting low for the rear to prevent transfer and provide a quick shift back.

In the front you want a lower spring rate, dampening lower and rebound higher.

S13 hatch...and I can vouch it is fast as all hail and I honestly wouldnt doubt he breaks loose at 100

[khan351]

Mickey Thompson ET Street Radials...i've used these on plenty of my cars and love em..depending on suspension, these can prolly help u out in 1st gear also...good luck!!

[-S Double C-]

Ok, FWD drag suspension 101.

When you have weight transfer to the rear of a FWD car, you loose traction.

You want the spring rates and dampening high and the rebound setting low for the rear to prevent transfer and provide a quick shift back.

In the front you want a lower spring rate, dampening lower and rebound higher.

wtf are you talking about?....hahaha I have a 240..lol show me a FWD with staggered wheels and 10 inch wide rims in the front.

[-S Double C-]

What kind of car is this that breaks loose at 100mph with 380whp?

240sx i had 17x7.5 rims then when this was happening.

[-S Double C-]

I think im gonna try out the mickey thompson et streets

[SixSquared]

Wanna quit breaking loose?

Quit driving like a jackass.

Done.

[wantboost]

why did you even bother posting :thinking: go back to the lounge.

[matthewAPM]

wantboost. where u been man?! u goin on da run? oo yeah and +1 on what u said

[-S Double C-]

hey sean i think your **** is slow just put some 30 inch slicks haha big money balla naw man yeah im guessing you realized you should put drag radials but go with mickey thompson

[-S Double C-]

haha its alex i just realized im on your user name haha ***** forgot to logout

[Jaimecbr900]

240sx i had 17x7.5 rims then when this was happening.

I still don't see how you could be "breaking loose" at 100 mph. It takes a lot of HP to do that. I know of plenty of cars with wayyyy more than 380 whp that won't "break loose" at 100 mph. I'm not trying to rain on the parade, but I just don't see how you're doing it unless you're driving on bald tires in the rain.

:thinking:

[matthewAPM]

i can spin mine in my stock motor 89 civic all the way through 5th...in the rain on race tires. lol

but really, that is not that much power. my dad has more than that much power in the camaro and i cant do it. are u talking about in the rain?

[wantboost]

wantboost. where u been man?! u goin on da run? oo yeah and +1 on what u said
busy man, i am going to be out of town so i am going to miss it.

[-S Double C-]

I still don't see how you could be "breaking loose" at 100 mph. It takes a lot of HP to do that. I know of plenty of cars with wayyyy more than 380 whp that won't "break loose" at 100 mph. I'm not trying to rain on the parade, but I just don't see how you're doing it unless you're driving on bald tires in the rain.

:thinking:

well it did and i scared the **** outta about 15 people when it did. it spins through thrid now with a soft ass suspension and 275/40/18 on the back now.

[TIGERJC]

Your turbo must be coming in hard, b/c thats the only way I could see you spinning at 100 or your tach must be broken

[josh green]

I am sure you can clutch drop and just keep shifting until your tach says 100mph but I doubt your really going that fast.

[josh green]

Ok, FWD drag suspension 101.

When you have weight transfer to the rear of a FWD car, you loose traction.

You want the spring rates and dampening high and the rebound setting low for the rear to prevent transfer and provide a quick shift back.

In the front you want a lower spring rate, dampening lower and rebound higher.
You are almost correct, getting a fwd car to hook drag racing a more than just suspension. Its alignment, toe, camber, counter weight, ride height, etc... Just like a track car. But you do not want a low spring rate in the front or you will get wheel hop and it will be hard to control going down the track, and if return road isnt perfectly smooth you will probably shred your slicks or have to raise the front of the car and that messes with everything listed above. A lot of guys drag racing competitively are running 600lbs springs or so in the front and over even higher in the rear. Omnipower is a popular shock in the drag racing hondas b/c its a short stroke, large bore shock to eliminate as much travel as possible and the most rebound. That way when the car comes out of the hole on a slick the car comes up on the tire rather than shifting weight to the back of the car. As far as RWD, your on your own on that ****.

[Jaimecbr900]

well it did and i scared the **** outta about 15 people when it did. it spins through thrid now with a soft ass suspension and 275/40/18 on the back now.

Well I think that you may be hitting 100 mph on the speedo WHEN the tires slip, but I don't think you're actually GOING/ROLLING at 100 mph.

I have 10" tires in the back of my car too. I can spin them thru the gears if I want to, but the only way I would "break them loose" at high speed is in the rain. Even then, with half bald tires, I'd be hard pressed to do it at any speed above like maybe 60 mph at best. After that, it's really just hydroplanning and not spinning. This is why I don't see how, with 380 HP, in the dry, rolling, at 100 mph.....you could "break loose".

Just being honest.

[speedminded]

Well I think that you may be hitting 100 mph on the speedo WHEN the tires slip, but I don't think you're actually GOING/ROLLING at 100 mph.

I have 10" tires in the back of my car too. I can spin them thru the gears if I want to, but the only way I would "break them loose" at high speed is in the rain. Even then, with half bald tires, I'd be hard pressed to do it at any speed above like maybe 60 mph at best. After that, it's really just hydroplanning and not spinning. This is why I don't see how, with 380 HP, in the dry, rolling, at 100 mph.....you could "break loose".

Just being honest.Depends on the weight of the car and how much camber is in the rear...

[Jaimecbr900]

Depends on the weight of the car and how much camber is in the rear...

As in MY car? :thinking: Yes, you know it's a super porker and I do have some neg camber in the rear....BUT, I'm still hard pressed to see how 380 HP can break the tires loose at 100 mph.

Besides, YOU are not supposed to disagree with me BIOTCH!!! :tongue1: :D

[speedminded]

As in MY car? :thinking: Yes, you know it's a super porker and I do have some neg camber in the rear....BUT, I'm still hard pressed to see how 380 HP can break the tires loose at 100 mph.

Besides, YOU are not supposed to disagree with me BIOTCH!!! :tongue1: :DI know your car silly...i mean his! I assume a 240 judging by sig, if he's rockin' negative 2° to 3° camber with that wide of a tire then he's not getting much of a contact patch...on a car that's 1,000 lbs lighter. :tongue:

[-S Double C-]

Your turbo must be coming in hard, b/c thats the only way I could see you spinning at 100 or your tach must be broken

it's spiking 25lbs

[-S Double C-]

Well I think that you may be hitting 100 mph on the speedo WHEN the tires slip, but I don't think you're actually GOING/ROLLING at 100 mph.

I have 10" tires in the back of my car too. I can spin them thru the gears if I want to, but the only way I would "break them loose" at high speed is in the rain. Even then, with half bald tires, I'd be hard pressed to do it at any speed above like maybe 60 mph at best. After that, it's really just hydroplanning and not spinning. This is why I don't see how, with 380 HP, in the dry, rolling, at 100 mph.....you could "break loose".

Just being honest.

with my old 17's i could hit it from 60 and break loose for almost all of 3rd then when i go to shift into 4th it would break loose again for a sec. I dont mean like i just spin all through fourth

[-S Double C-]

I know your car silly...i mean his! I assume a 240 judging by sig, if he's rockin' negative 2° to 3° camber with that wide of a tire then he's not getting much of a contact patch...on a car that's 1,000 lbs lighter. :tongue:

my car was slammed at the time this happend. Now it's about a 1 inch drop with no camber at all.

[§treet_§peed]

what do you have exactly done to your car? i have rode in a 600 plus whp and wtq cars and not completely break loose in 4th gear just jerk and spin a little here and there

[§treet_§peed]

also the more you spin the more time you waste FYI

[-S Double C-]

also the more you spin the more time you waste FYI

yeah i know...my 60ft's at the track was 2.4. I just order some mickeys so we will see how that goes.

[turboSOHC]

BFG's

[Jaimecbr900]

what do you have exactly done to your car? i have rode in a 600 plus whp and wtq cars and not completely break loose in 4th gear just jerk and spin a little here and there

;) :goodjob:

BTW, is this a DD or a track purpose car? If it's anything that you put any kind of decent mileage on, you'll not be too happy with what you get out of a drag tire. They will stick, no doubt. But they also won't last very long either.

[-S Double C-]

ah it's a semi daily driver i dont driver far to work or drive much

[BuBBa DRiFT]

WHEN YOU SPINNIN YOU AINT WINNIN

[§treet_§peed]

also if you drive it every day then why not get a spar set of wheels to only put on for the occassions when you need to grip. cause i mean just riding to work everyday doesn't require full throttle ya kno