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Lucky.
12-20-2007, 09:42 PM
Does anyone on IA have one?

big mac
12-20-2007, 10:23 PM
my friend has a four door si, the mugen is the exact same thing except that it has a lip kit and diffrent badging

MistaCee
12-20-2007, 10:28 PM
^^^ No buddy the mugen has a lot more to it than just that

big mac
12-20-2007, 10:30 PM
other than i diffrent suspension i think thats all thats diffrent performance wise. and they got a small ass engine bay.

SRCRX
12-21-2007, 10:31 AM
18" wheels (lighter than stock 17")

track tuned suspension!!

Killer
12-21-2007, 11:25 AM
your sig is way to dang big son...

thepolecat
12-21-2007, 11:29 AM
I just dont really know why someone would spend (I think) $30,000 on a Civic when they can get something like an STI or Evo. I love my Civic, but there is a limit to the insanity.

GSRtegŪ
12-21-2007, 11:56 AM
Does anyone on IA have one?

Why would some spend 30k on a civic... I don't care its Mugen or not thats just crazy. :screwy:

bigdare23
12-21-2007, 12:08 PM
You guys are lame!!!

Because the car is just a "civic" doesn't mean it can be valueble. Look at the current going rate for eg's. I promise you majority of those hatches sells for more than double what they are truly worth. Rarity and demand determines cost!!! Since the Mugen Civic is a limited production car it's worth more than what you think it should be.



ALSO HOW STOP COMPARING CARS PRICES BASED ON SPEED!!! NOT EVERYONE GOES FAST!!!

cdhtang
12-21-2007, 12:11 PM
yeah, why people even spend that much money on that ugly civic? go get a s2k with that price unless it is the jdm civic.

bigdare23
12-21-2007, 12:12 PM
yeah, why people even spend that much money on that ugly civic? go get a s2k with that price unless it is the jdm civic.


Well that's the closest your going to get to a "JDM Civic".

MistaCee
12-21-2007, 12:13 PM
I think the civic will be a collectable so if you buy it 10-15 years from now the price will not budge or it will rise.

JITB
12-21-2007, 12:28 PM
You guys are lame!!!

Because the car is just a "civic" doesn't mean it can be valueble. Look at the current going rate for eg's. I promise you majority of those hatches sells for more than double what they are truly worth. Rarity and demand determines cost!!! Since the Mugen Civic is a limited production car it's worth more than what you think it should be.



ALSO HOW STOP COMPARING CARS PRICES BASED ON SPEED!!! NOT EVERYONE GOES FAST!!!


compare to the speciality cars it was built to go after....

Mazdaspeed3
GTI
WRX
Srt4
cobalt SS
SpecV
Ralliart Lancer


it kind of looses... in the pricing and what u get department. all those cars can and or will be available for much less thatn 30k..

it will be valuable in the future, but not because its a mugen, but because its a honda.. ;)

Brett
12-21-2007, 12:39 PM
^^^ No buddy the mugen has a lot more to it than just that

Alot more? :lmfao:

Ummm same motor, basically the same exact car as the 4 door SI, but you are paying all that money for a Mugen Lip kit, Spoiler and badges and interior badges. Some slight suspension mods. So if someone is dumb enough to pay $35k for a civic with a body kit, they are a dumb ass. No extra HP, not even a aftermarket header, just a basic ass SI with limited production numbers

JDMrequired
12-21-2007, 12:46 PM
I think the civic will be a collectable so if you buy it 10-15 years from now the price will not budge or it will rise.


yeah

they're rare-ish

kind of like the ITR and CTR

more rare = more baller status................buying a rare, expensive car just makes you feel good inside, even if you have to live in a box to afford it

bigdare23
12-21-2007, 12:47 PM
Alot more? :lmfao:

Ummm same motor, basically the same exact car as the 4 door SI, but you are paying all that money for a Mugen Lip kit, Spoiler and badges and interior badges. Some slight suspension mods. So if someone is dumb enough to pay $35k for a civic with a body kit, they are a dumb ass. No extra HP, not even a aftermarket header, just a basic ass SI with limited production numbers


no header :blah:
no extra hp :blah:

Once again it's not just about performance.

MistaCee
12-21-2007, 01:06 PM
Alot more? :lmfao:

Ummm same motor, basically the same exact car as the 4 door SI, but you are paying all that money for a Mugen Lip kit, Spoiler and badges and interior badges. Some slight suspension mods. So if someone is dumb enough to pay $35k for a civic with a body kit, they are a dumb ass. No extra HP, not even a aftermarket header, just a basic ass SI with limited production numbers

Yes even with just those slight mods it will still take the stock si civic anyday. I'm not saying that i'd pay 30k for it, i'm just stating that it is not the same as the stock si. It has limited production numbers which will of course make the price much higher.

Brett
12-21-2007, 01:11 PM
no header :blah:
no extra hp :blah:

Once again it's not just about performance.

Dude you dont know me I guess, if you saw my show civic you would know I am not all about performance, TRUST ME, BUT if I am paying 30k+ and a 5K limited car mark up, You bet your ass I want something over a standard civic besides a body kit.

bigdare23
12-21-2007, 01:27 PM
Dude you dont know me I guess, if you saw my show civic you would know I am not all about performance, TRUST ME, BUT if I am paying 30k+ and a 5K limited car mark up, You bet your ass I want something over a standard civic besides a body kit.


LOL, I seen your car


The main point I'm trying to make is performance isn't the only selling point for cars (which most people don't get). People assume every car in the same price range should perform equally as good when that's not the case. This car was design as an collector's item, and not as race car. If Mugen really wanted to release a car to battle the Sti's and Evo's, they would of released this

http://www.nihoncar.com/news_pics/468/gallery/Honda_Civic_Type_R_Mugen_001.jpg

MistaCee
12-21-2007, 01:29 PM
^^^ exactly

JITB
12-21-2007, 01:45 PM
mugen
http://www.motorauthority.com/wp-content/uploads/Honda/Odds/Tuners/07_CivicMUGENSi_102_small.jpg
http://www.myride.com/images/vehicle/2007/Honda/Civic/Staff/07.civic.1_(400x300).jpg
mugen
http://www.speedsportlife.com/photopost/data/1073/thumbs/07_CivicMUGENSi_108.jpg
Si
http://www.procivic.com/images/articles_news/2007_si_sedan_concept/civic_si_sedan_concept_back.jpg
mugen
http://image.automotive.com/f/miscellaneous/2008-honda-civic-mugen-si-high-speed-at-29-500/7235502+w630+cr1+re0+ar1/2008-honda-civic-mugen-interiorjpg.jpg
Si
http://us.autos1.yimg.com/img.autos.yahoo.com/ag/honda_civicsisedan_6spdmt_2008_interior_19_346x270 .jpg
http://us.autos1.yimg.com/img.autos.yahoo.com/ag/honda_civicsisedan_6spdmt_2008_interior_17_346x270 .jpg



http://www.autocult.com.au/img/gallery/full/AkinaGhost1170.jpg
http://images.worldcarfans.com/articles/2007/7/24/8070724.002/8070724.002.1M.jpg


Si-22k
mugen - 30k

i dont see 9k worth of upgrades...lol

bigdare23
12-21-2007, 01:51 PM
mugen
http://www.motorauthority.com/wp-content/uploads/Honda/Odds/Tuners/07_CivicMUGENSi_102_small.jpg
http://www.myride.com/images/vehicle/2007/Honda/Civic/Staff/07.civic.1_(400x300).jpg
mugen
http://www.speedsportlife.com/photopost/data/1073/thumbs/07_CivicMUGENSi_108.jpg
Si
http://www.procivic.com/images/articles_news/2007_si_sedan_concept/civic_si_sedan_concept_back.jpg
mugen
http://image.automotive.com/f/miscellaneous/2008-honda-civic-mugen-si-high-speed-at-29-500/7235502+w630+cr1+re0+ar1/2008-honda-civic-mugen-interiorjpg.jpg
Si
http://us.autos1.yimg.com/img.autos.yahoo.com/ag/honda_civicsisedan_6spdmt_2008_interior_19_346x270 .jpg
http://us.autos1.yimg.com/img.autos.yahoo.com/ag/honda_civicsisedan_6spdmt_2008_interior_17_346x270 .jpg



http://www.autocult.com.au/img/gallery/full/AkinaGhost1170.jpg
http://images.worldcarfans.com/articles/2007/7/24/8070724.002/8070724.002.1M.jpg


Si-22k
mugen - 30k

i dont see 9k worth of upgrades...lol


I can tell you seriously dont know the price of Mugen parts :lmfao:

http://www.kingmotorsports.com/category.aspx?cat=8

JITB
12-21-2007, 02:11 PM
I can tell you seriously dont know the price of Mugen parts :lmfao:

http://www.kingmotorsports.com/category.aspx?cat=8




in the honda world yes mugen is expensive we all know that. But what dealer quality performance part isnt. Nismo is expensive/mopar is expensive/ svt is expensive/mazdaspeed is expensive/ Gm performance is expensive over the counter piece by piece.

But when u build a sport compact speciality vehicle, the key thing is price... the people who want the mugen... most cant afford that price.

thepolecat
12-21-2007, 02:22 PM
Big- I love civics, I love Mugen- Im not bashing on the car. My personal opinion is that if was thinking of dropping 30K for a car, I would go with an AWD turbo over FF NA. I dont care about 10,20 or 30 years on. It will probably go up in value over time, but so did other cars like the 70 Buick GSX which was overpriced to.


Dont really know where Im going with this. Just not a fan of a 30K Civic with a badge.

MistaCee
12-21-2007, 06:00 PM
The parts added is not the only reason for the price is also has to do with how limited it is. People who are going to by this car probrably wont even be driving it but instead just make it sit in the garage.

takume
12-22-2007, 08:03 AM
mugen=JDM? lol//

Lucky.
12-22-2007, 02:27 PM
mugen=JDM? lol//

well, JDM means Japanese Domestic Market.....so yes

TypeRPersonality
12-22-2007, 02:33 PM
The wheels alone are about 3k. I don't see what people are complaining about. The Mugen Si isn't replacing the Si sedan. Don't buy it if you don't want it. No one is making the consumer shell out an extra 8k. It doesn't matter either way, cause these cars will sell.

ulbsry02
12-22-2007, 02:38 PM
i didnt buy one, but was the first to set in it, at my local dealer. i must say that the mugen exaust makes the car sound alot more sportier. i think they wanted like 32000 for it.

Humphrizzle
12-22-2007, 02:47 PM
Big- I love civics, I love Mugen- Im not bashing on the car. My personal opinion is that if was thinking of dropping 30K for a car, I would go with an AWD turbo over FF NA. I dont care about 10,20 or 30 years on. It will probably go up in value over time, but so did other cars like the 70 Buick GSX which was overpriced to.


Dont really know where Im going with this. Just not a fan of a 30K Civic with a badge.


This is why they only imported 1000 to America. It is made for the people who WANT a Mugen Civic and money isnt an issue. I dont think the dealerships give a **** if you dont have 30k to buy it but I'm sure they'll get it soon.

I have sat in the Mugen Si at Nalley, and it is amazing. One of the most comfortable cars ever.

and dont compare this to an s2k. Its not even close to the same category. no one wanting a mugen 4 door is going to change their mind at the last second to get a new ap2 s2000.

JITB
12-22-2007, 10:26 PM
This is why they only imported 1000 to America. It is made for the people who WANT a Mugen Civic and money isnt an issue. I dont think the dealerships give a **** if you dont have 30k to buy it but I'm sure they'll get it soon.

I have sat in the Mugen Si at Nalley, and it is amazing. One of the most comfortable cars ever.

and dont compare this to an s2k. Its not even close to the same category. no one wanting a mugen 4 door is going to change their mind at the last second to get a new ap2 s2000.


im sure if u sat in a mugen civic, and a si it would feel the same.. especially since they are the same inside...

k2nix
12-25-2007, 12:15 AM
Why would some spend 30k on a civic... I don't care its Mugen or not thats just crazy. :screwy:

well if you put it that way, what about people with old 5th gen civic who spends $$ putting K20 engine and new paint job and so on......same thing man, people who buy those mugen civic just have more money than one with old civics who can't afford mugen. admit it bro, If I had the $$$ I will just go for Mugen as well.

thepolecat
12-25-2007, 08:11 PM
This is why they only imported 1000 to America. It is made for the people who WANT a Mugen Civic and money isnt an issue. I dont think the dealerships give a **** if you dont have 30k to buy it but I'm sure they'll get it soon.

I have sat in the Mugen Si at Nalley, and it is amazing. One of the most comfortable cars ever.

and dont compare this to an s2k. Its not even close to the same category. no one wanting a mugen 4 door is going to change their mind at the last second to get a new ap2 s2000.

I never did- since when did they start making an S2K in AWD turbo. When I mention all wheel drive and turbo together most on the people on here naturally assume STI or Evo.

WHT_EP3
12-26-2007, 02:18 AM
the mugen si in person looks way better than in the pictures, it almost does want to make one pay a little more a month for it

Humphrizzle
12-26-2007, 12:56 PM
the point is, this civic is nothing like any other car.

people buy it for rarity and love for honda or mugen.

01CDMLUDER
12-31-2007, 07:01 PM
rare=more $

if u dont have the cash then dont buy it. the car is worth the $ though so u cant really argue that!

JuStCrUzIn
01-03-2008, 05:05 PM
i seem to see alot of haters in here. why would you even argue about the difference of price in a regular si and a MUGEN si. first of all you pay for the quality of "mugen" its got "mugen" parts that will be covered by the dealer. a person with the money to afford it and loves honda like most of us do in here would by this car. imo. i would spend 8k more for my title to say civic mugen si, keep it nice and clean with low miles until i retire and sell it for more than i bought it for.