Knock Off's

[blaknoize]

Now... if u guys are in the market for wheels like me. And dont have the cash like... well... somebody ELSE on here. Check out the Drag's if u havent already seen them before. I'll be gettin me a set soon. Please stop me if u guys feel it embarassing to the squad, otherwise lmk what u guys think.

http://www.discounttire.com/dtcs/searchWheelsByVehicleAndSize.do?rcz=30021&rc=GAAINT&yr=1991&wd=15&vid=006810&tc=DRAD20

[crhatchzc]

im actually diggin the dr-26

[blaknoize]

Oh yea, those were the ones that got me hip to the Drags in the first place.

[JDMJAYDC2]

wow you are more of a noob than i thought if you think you are bringing new info to ppl about drag wheels

[blaknoize]

wow you are more of a noob than i thought if you think you are bringing new info to ppl about drag wheelsU must not read disclaimers inside of a post. I assumed that u guys have already known about them,or most of them, but some of us havent. So, I'm spreadin the love. Dont hate. Its new to me and yea, I'ma noob. I've never had a set of wheels.

[EvasiveEF9]

Read this first...

http://www.exelife.com/blog/automotive/rotarded-wheels.html

You'll see why I went with Konigs.

[blaknoize]

I'm just tryin to save some cash though Ben. I kno that if u knockoff something its generally never as well built. Like when Hyundai tried to knockoff Honda's. I just put it up here cuz... well I want some wheels. If u have a better idea, please direct me.

[EvasiveEF9]

If you go with knockoffs, I would advise the Rota's over the Drag's. Why? Because Drag is a smaller company. Granted, the knockoff write-up is direct at Rota...rots is still a larger company and (if not mistaken) they've been around longer.

Now...granted, you don't hear about many of these incidents because I would just about guarantee that if you had a wheel do that...you were driving pretty hard or bumped into something.

On that note, I would say that if you're just looking for wheels for daily driving...drags or rotas would be fine. But if you ever plan to get into anything competitive...consider a bigger better company. Many of the EF Squad has seen how I drive....so they can see why I went with Konigs...

[blaknoize]

^^Duh, plus... I'd like to be lighter and I kno those wheels are nothing compared to expensive, purpose built wheels. I'll check into it and look around as well. Thanks for the warning.

[bigdare23]

drags FTL!!!

[bigdare23]

For the price most people pay for knockoffs they can actually get a nice "name brand wheel".


Cheating your car = cheating yourself

[blaknoize]

So is MB wheels considered knockoff?

[bigdare23]

So is MB wheels considered knockoff?


Never heard of that brand


Knockoffs are when a company blatantly copy other people rims. So if that company has more replica rims than originals than they are considered knockoffs to me.

[blaknoize]

:goodjob: Thanks for a great definition. Bout time someone can define things. I'll look around before I commit to a knockoff.

[00CelicaGT]

im diggin da drag DR-17 in bronze, i know that there knock off 5Zigen wheels but i love the way they look and money doesnt grow on trees!

[bigdare23]

here are some examples of nice and relatively cheap wheels

http://www.importatlanta.com/forums/showthread.php?t=144214

[00CelicaGT]

nice but they dont have any 15x7, which is wat i want.

[bigdare23]

:rolleyes: @ wider is better mentality

[JDMJAYDC2]

:goodjob: Thanks for a great definition. Bout time someone can define things. I'll look around before I commit to a knockoff.

LOL at you for needing someone to define what good wheels are vs cheap knockoffs

[00CelicaGT]

well i know u guy's like to do mountain runs as so do i and we all know some 13x5 or watever aint gonna cut it on the mountain.

ohh cant wait to par take in the first EF meet/ dyno day/ mountain run of 2008

[JDMJAYDC2]

your kinda late ant we have already done that but i think we are going to set something up a couple of more times before ben leaves in feb so get your hatch ready bro

[00CelicaGT]

yeah i know i missed those, i edited my post to say the first of 2008. but just cuz ben is leaving doesnt mean we have to stop having the meets. no offense ben.

im picking up cory's hatch on sunday so ill be ready, im planning on changing the suspension a lil in April/May to the skunk2 pro series coilovers. but yeah ill be ready, hell ill be ready next weekend lol:bannana:

[JDMJAYDC2]

ready as in zc or ready as in ls vtec baby

[00CelicaGT]

no readfy as ZC im putting the LS/VTEC
on hold cuz i want to boost my celica and unleash the beast next year this time or maybe in the summer.

im still going to buy parts and build the LS/VTEC im just not in a rush

[bigdare23]

well i know u guy's like to do mountain runs as so do i and we all know some 13x5 or watever aint gonna cut it on the mountain.

ohh cant wait to par take in the first EF meet/ dyno day/ mountain run of 2008


You would be suprised on what a "stock" EF can do. Just ask Cato. He does really good in the mountains with an auto :goodjob:

[StraightSix]

Not really trying to talk myself up, but I'm riding on stock suspension and I track, autocross and moutnain run my car.

Ben can vouch that I give my little hatch hell, well kinda. I don't have enought hp to really keep up with Ben, but I do what I can.

[Scotsman]

hit me up b4 you go bro! , drags ftmfw!

[EvasiveEF9]

To vouch for stock EF's...

Bryan (aka StraightSix) has run SOME SCCA, and SEVERAL NASA events, and par-takes in a Clemson racing group (correct me if wrong, Bryan). For which he has done well for himself. From what I have actually SEEN him run, I can only vouch the mountains. The last mountain run we went up on was mildly-to-semi aggressive. Hell, there were some parts I would call aggressive. Bryan's hatch kept up with me through all the hell of the short-straightway, tight-hairpin turns. The only time my car REALLY surpassed him was at the higher speeds where we had two lanes, and I pushed my car because I had room for error. But when it came down to it...in the one-lane areas where my engine couldn't really release itself, Bryan's hatch was able to hold me in his crosshairs.

To vouch for wheels...I'm one of the most aggressive driver's of the EF Squad up in the mountains. I love my 15x6's. I can feel the road, well. My tires track the road, well. And whenever the front end STARTS to slide, it's VERY easy to regain control, and get back on course while at the same time still being easy enough that when I DO want the front end to slide out of a turn, it does so VERY easily by digging just a little bit harder.

What's REALLY going to matter to you is learning how to handle your weight transfer whether you have stock or aftermarket suspension...and what tires you're running will also make one of the biggest differences. Bryan runs a 195 series tire, and I run a 205 series tire. We both love them, and have our own biased opinions on them...but that wide of a tire tracks well. As for your tire BRAND...I wanna say Bryan runs proxes 4's...and I run Proxes 4's. They're not the BEST tire for the job...but they do VERY well and make a perfect DD/WW tire. The ONLY complaint I have about them is they're ability to hydroplane...but that's not only the tires to blame. My car weighs in at about 1800lbs...on a good day.

So to break it down for you...learn to drive your car as stock as possible. Once you learn the limitations of the car, add something. Learn that. Add more. Learn that. Build your way up. And that extra inch of wheel...really isn't gonna make THAT much of a difference. If you find a nice 15x6 or 6.5 wheel...go for it.

[blaknoize]

LOL at you for needing someone to define what good wheels are vs cheap knockoffsLOL at u defining me needing a definition of good wheels vs. cheap knockoff's

[blaknoize]

To vouch for stock EF's...

Bryan (aka StraightSix) has run SOME SCCA, and SEVERAL NASA events, and par-takes in a Clemson racing group (correct me if wrong, Bryan). For which he has done well for himself. From what I have actually SEEN him run, I can only vouch the mountains. The last mountain run we went up on was mildly-to-semi aggressive. Hell, there were some parts I would call aggressive. Bryan's hatch kept up with me through all the hell of the short-straightway, tight-hairpin turns. The only time my car REALLY surpassed him was at the higher speeds where we had two lanes, and I pushed my car because I had room for error. But when it came down to it...in the one-lane areas where my engine couldn't really release itself, Bryan's hatch was able to hold me in his crosshairs.

To vouch for wheels...I'm one of the most aggressive driver's of the EF Squad up in the mountains. I love my 15x6's. I can feel the road, well. My tires track the road, well. And whenever the front end STARTS to slide, it's VERY easy to regain control, and get back on course while at the same time still being easy enough that when I DO want the front end to slide out of a turn, it does so VERY easily by digging just a little bit harder.

What's REALLY going to matter to you is learning how to handle your weight transfer whether you have stock or aftermarket suspension...and what tires you're running will also make one of the biggest differences. Bryan runs a 195 series tire, and I run a 205 series tire. We both love them, and have our own biased opinions on them...but that wide of a tire tracks well. As for your tire BRAND...I wanna say Bryan runs proxes 4's...and I run Proxes 4's. They're not the BEST tire for the job...but they do VERY well and make a perfect DD/WW tire. The ONLY complaint I have about them is they're ability to hydroplane...but that's not only the tires to blame. My car weighs in at about 1800lbs...on a good day.

So to break it down for you...learn to drive your car as stock as possible. Once you learn the limitations of the car, add something. Learn that. Add more. Learn that. Build your way up. And that extra inch of wheel...really isn't gonna make THAT much of a difference. If you find a nice 15x6 or 6.5 wheel...go for it.:rolleyes: one of these days I'll be able to run with u guys. lmk whenever it goes down. I'll try to keep up.

[00CelicaGT]

BEN I KNOW WAT U MEAN, IT'S ALL ABOUT KNOWING UR CAR. THE FIRST TIME I WENT TO THE MOUNTAINS WAS WIT COR AND HIS BROTHER INLAW. I WAS IN MY CELICA ON STOCK SUSPENSION AND I HAD A BLAST. BUT SINCE THEN I HAVE BECOME ADDICTED TO THE MOUNTAINS AND TURNS PERIOD. BUT WHEN WE DO GO I WANT TO RUN BEHIND U BEN AND SEE HOW WELL I DO. I THINK I CAN GIVE U A RUN FOR UR MONEY. I THINK

MAN IM ALL EXCITED NOW.

[blaknoize]

So when is this gonna go down?

[JDMJAYDC2]

So when is this gonna go down?

no time soon since its COLDER in the mts. and all the rain we have gotten will prolly be ice so umm ice + stock crx= your car off a cliff

[bigdare23]

no time soon since its COLDER in the mts. and all the rain we have gotten will prolly be ice so umm ice + stock crx= your car off a cliff

well you're good since you got snow tires on your Si's :lmfao:

[JDMJAYDC2]

well you're good since you got snow tires on your Si's :lmfao:

are you jealous since you still have your training rims on...:D 14sFTL


but they muuuuugggggeeeeennnnn!!!!!

dare you have a pm

[blaknoize]

A lil snow and ice and brushes with the cliffside never hurt anyone, it just makes u more of a man :D

[JDMJAYDC2]

A lil snow and ice and brushes with the cliffside never hurt anyone, it just makes u more of a man :D

wow maybe you should visit the tail of the dragon with that attitude lol

[00CelicaGT]

A lil snow and ice and brushes with the cliffside never hurt anyone, it just makes u more of a man :D

dats untill u slide of the mountain and die. hell u would be lucky if u just tolted ur car.

[matthewAPM]

does anyone know where to find knock off Enkei RPF1s? not for me (i have real ones)

BTW, im trying to get some people to do a mountain run over the christmas break time. anyone interested?

[JDMJAYDC2]

no good for me ill be with the family

[blaknoize]

I dont have second gear yet. So... I may come, but I wont be in hot competition.

[EvasiveEF9]

Just come for the cruise...never over-drive your car.

It's put...to say the least...a few of us mountaineers in the woods...

[JDMJAYDC2]

I dont have second gear yet. So... I may come, but I wont be in hot competition.


this will tell your fate in the mountains i suggest you stay at home!....or ride with someone as the turns come up faster than you would think and 2nd is a must

[Papa_Smurf]

2nd gear is defiantly a must in the mountians, you're in it just about every turn.... so if you only have 1st and 3rd then you're purdy much ****ed...

just stay twords the rear so you dont hold anyone up, and dont drive outside your means....