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Mr. Clean
12-08-2007, 09:20 AM
factory or modified muscle generation cars?

mostly talking about appearance... not necessarily engine performance, but factory interior/exterior.

:discuss:




http://www.futureclassicsnj.com/Cars/68DANAmnyshot.jpg
http://www.chipfoose.com/images/gallery/camaro1.jpg

WalkS
12-08-2007, 09:37 AM
they also call this a resto mod, they make a big hype about this especially during the Barret Jackson Auction, seems like the resto mod cars dont pull much money as your number matching resored muscle car.
But to hell what other people say, im going to mod my car to my taste.

BlkCD5
12-08-2007, 09:50 AM
Authentic is nice, but if the appearance is not too extreme, how would that devalue the car? It would still carry the design of that year it was made. Who the hell keeps muscle cars stock anyways(appearance wise)?

WalkS
12-08-2007, 09:54 AM
Authentic is nice, but if the appearance is not too extreme, how would that devalue the car? It would still carry the design of that year it was made. Who the hell keeps muscle cars stock anyways(appearance wise)?
Im guessing if something on the car is not numbers matching, the value plummets.

BUGMAN
12-08-2007, 10:30 AM
Im guessing if something on the car is not numbers matching, the value plummets.

That is very true as far as collectors/investors go but for people like us that are not materialistic and just enjoy what we have, we really don't care about the numbers. Hell even the 3 that we have with matching numbers we swapped hoods and various other items so they fit our taste more. We kept all the original junk but really doesn't mean much to us.

We have an all original 2nd owner 68 Mustang now that we are about to swap just about everything around on so that we like it. :)

Mr. Clean
12-08-2007, 10:45 AM
yeah im not one to get a car and try and restore it to complete factory appearance. i work at yearone in the warehouse but on saturdays i work at the counter and i've been watching people come in this morning and order all kinds of stuff that i cant imagine spending money on (detail tags,headlight washer decals, just stuff that you would only need if you were doing complete resto.) and this original GM stuff compared to repro. stuff is RIDICULOUS. talking like $20 for a tail light lens compared to $150 and people buy this stuff everyday.

quickdodge®
12-08-2007, 11:24 AM
Who the hell keeps muscle cars stock anyways(appearance wise)?

You don't know the muscle car world too well do you? Lolol. Later, QD.

JDMjoe
12-08-2007, 11:31 AM
Muscle cars are ghey









I work at yearone too lol

A.P. Photography
12-08-2007, 11:33 AM
they also call this a resto mod, they make a big hype about this especially during the Barret Jackson Auction, seems like the resto mod cars dont pull much money as your number matching resored muscle car.
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A year ago I would have agreed with you on this one but after watching Barrett Jackson this year it is a false statement. The trend is now buying cars that are replica's of the original factory muscle cars. I witnessed an original Hemi Cuda (numbers matching) go for like $300K and a replica Hemi Cuda go for $500k with a few updated parts. I have also seen non numbers matchng replicas go for over 1 million. So where an original numbers matching car used to be the way to go, the trend has now shifted to Resto Replica Mods.

Kevykev
12-08-2007, 11:37 AM
When modified tastefully they can be beautiful beasts!

RUFFIAN
12-08-2007, 11:46 AM
I'm all about INDIVIDUALITY. I respect the all #'s matching crowd but I'd prefer to have fun with my cars. I would just like to say if you are going to modify anything, do tastefully.

BlkCD5
12-08-2007, 12:00 PM
originally posted by quickdodge®
You don't know the muscle car world too well do you? Lolol. Later, QD.

nope, enlighten me.

quickdodge®
12-08-2007, 12:20 PM
nope, enlighten me.

First off, I wasn't laughing at you. Just laughing to show I wasn't trying to be an as$hole with my comment. There are probably just as many, if not more, people that restore to original specs than those who go modifying beyond it. True story. So calm down, Sparky. Later, QD.

wantboost
12-08-2007, 12:45 PM
i like stock body w/ a set of wheels on almost any car. and looking at these pictures i would have to say factory. the grill, hood, and paint ruin it for me

Elbow
12-08-2007, 12:54 PM
Modified for sure.

Deke
12-08-2007, 01:15 PM
I'm not going to vote on this because I don't feel really strongly either way. I'm not a matching numbers kind of guy, but at the same time I like muscle cars that look pretty original. For instance, I would definitely take the first Camaro you posted over the second. Personally, I think a new set of wheels (no bigger than 16 inches, maybe 17) and maybe a little drop (none of this slammed import, I need to alter my daily commute so I don't hit any speed bumps, trend) makes for the perfect looking muscle car.

MachNU
12-08-2007, 01:20 PM
i am going to go with resto mod. i am sorry but to me a classic body, like that first one you posted turned into the 2nd car, is BEAUTIFUL! that red 22 is ****ing hot! The Chip Foose style of resto mods to me, is the type of car one day i will own. the orignals are nice, but modern spins on classic cars there is no better thing to do! :goodjob:

Revmaynard
12-08-2007, 01:32 PM
I say for most to keep them original or don't **** any parts to make something work. They aren't going to always be around. But as long as people keep modifying them the more mine will be worth to a collector of the sort. lol.

Mr. Clean
12-08-2007, 01:34 PM
i am going to go with resto mod. i am sorry but to me a classic body, like that first one you posted turned into the 2nd car, is BEAUTIFUL! that red 22 is ****ing hot! The Chip Foose style of resto mods to me, is the type of car one day i will own. the orignals are nice, but modern spins on classic cars there is no better thing to do! :goodjob:

yeah im kinda of leaning toward a resto-mod type look and i should have put that in the poll but i didnt even think about a middle ground.

but yeah im all about some semi factory with your own twist but nothing that completely changes the car. like so:

http://www.jtruck.net/misc/4x4cars/full/68camaro4x4.jpg

BlkCD5
12-08-2007, 11:10 PM
originally posted by quickdodge®
First off, I wasn't laughing at you. Just laughing to show I wasn't trying to be an as$hole with my comment. There are probably just as many, if not more, people that restore to original specs than those who go modifying beyond it. True story. So calm down, Sparky. Later, QD.


:lmao:, I wasn't offended. I just wanted to know a little about the muscle car world.

AnthonyF
12-09-2007, 12:18 AM
modded bìtch. u work at yearone. i know how ya'll do. lol

manilikecars
12-09-2007, 06:02 AM
depends on the car

BKgen®
12-09-2007, 09:00 AM
factory hands down. :goodjob:
'67-69 Camaros are so damn played out though.

Mr. Clean
12-09-2007, 12:00 PM
factory hands down. :goodjob:
'67-69 Camaros are so damn played out though.

yeah i know they're everywhere but they are still a sexy body... that foose camaro is so ridiculous.

secondgencamaro
12-09-2007, 05:42 PM
I really don't care for the trend of big wheels, carbon fiber, billet grilles, and such on muscle cars. I prefer something subtle that wouldn't look out of place if it were to be seen in in 1972. Chip Foose and Boyd Coddington can climb a tree with some of the stuff they put out.

_Christian_
12-09-2007, 06:19 PM
it depends. in the financial situation im currently in, i would take a resto mod. for example, if it is an original #'s matching ls6 chevelle I'm going to be too scared to drive it so I know i'll enjoy a restomoded chevelle more. i would only do subtle visual mods to a muscle car anyways. now if my pockets are REALLY deep i'd take the LS6 all day.

The Yousef
12-09-2007, 10:02 PM
pro touring ftmfw!!

http://www.musclecarrestorations.com/images/design/cover_a.jpg

http://www.racehome.com/brutal/pro-touringcamaro2.jpg

Mr. Clean
12-09-2007, 10:08 PM
mmm... nice additions ^

BKgen®
12-10-2007, 09:00 AM
ryan hampton had the right idea :goodjob:

http://www.martzchassis.net/hampton.jpg

Allstar3.8T
12-10-2007, 11:31 AM
I like modded, especially pro-touring/G-machine styles. The factory is good to look at, awful to drive. Though some cars back "in the day" were fast, nothing like what they are being modded into now.....powerful and can turn at speeds. With the trend in modding now swinging toward older cars, it proves, the past is the present, and the future will always stay in the past, with some of todays idea of the future. Confused? Good.

Evil Goat
12-10-2007, 04:57 PM
it really differs car to car for me, im old school at heart, grew up around mid to late 60's muscle cars all through my family, my personal opinion are there are some meant to be modded and some that should stay stock...its all about personal preference, but i can like most classic muscle cars either way

OneSlow5pt0
12-10-2007, 04:59 PM
stock......only modified if its soemthing like yenko

Mr. Clean
12-10-2007, 07:15 PM
I like modded, especially pro-touring/G-machine styles. The factory is good to look at, awful to drive. Though some cars back "in the day" were fast, nothing like what they are being modded into now.....powerful and can turn at speeds. With the trend in modding now swinging toward older cars, it proves, the past is the present, and the future will always stay in the past, with some of todays idea of the future. Confused? Good.

haha... yeah cars back in the day were meant to go in a straight line... hence the huge tires and jacked up suspension. so if you want to do anything besides go to the strip with a muscle car then mods are a must.