tired of hitting red lights and hoping that there no camers?

[isa2o3]

I am tired of being scared of those f****ing traffic light cameras. It is already bad enough watching out for cops when speeding, now u got to watch out for cameras.wtf:police: I got too many friends and family that got tickets in their mail and there is no way to fight it. cuz they got u on camera lol.

[coolcat]

Bump for the best thread ever!

[Reaper]

don't drive like a dumbass and then you won't have to worry anymore

[Nittanys1]

ur just getting tired of them?

[ubers2k]

learn to use the ****ing brakes and not drive like an idiot. Red means stop.

[isa2o3]

don't drive like a dumbass and then you won't have to worry anymore

lol dont try to, but u cant tell me that there have been time where the light was yellow and u thought u will make it, but when u get 1/4 in on the intersection, it all of sudden turns red. If so it will earn u a ticket sir.

[isa2o3]

ur just getting tired of them?

no i have been tired of them. But i kept it to myself till today. :lmfao:

[Reaper]

lol dont try to, but u cant tell me that there have been time where the light was yellow and u thought u will make it, but when u get 1/4 in on the intersection, it all of sudden turns red. If so it will earn u a ticket sir.

actually it hasn't. I tend to slow down when I see a yellow light:goodjob:

[Leekor12]

dont they have somethign to reflect the flash on the licence cover?

[HeLLo iM iZzY]

-How about you go stealth mode and when you know your're about to go thru a red hit a button and hide your plates?

-Get that spray can that makes your plates invisible to the camera.

-Take your plates off.

-Or, the smartest idea ever, don't run them if you can't beat them.

[Kaiser]

-How about you go stealth mode and when you know your're about to go thru a red hit a button and hide your plates?

-Get that spray can that makes your plates invisible to the camera.

-Take your plates off.

-Or, the smartest idea ever, don't run them if you can't beat them.

The spray stuff doesn't work, has been proven time and time again, including by mythbusters. The other three ideas are golden, including the flipping liscense plate trick. Just watch out, it'll land you in a steaming heaping pile of crap if you DO get caught with it. Just taking your tag off when you decide to drive like a moron is the best idea. Most cops won't stop you just for having your tag off.

[fucksohc]

ummm... maybe if you dont run red lights you wont have to worry about it?


:slap:

[Kyle]

Yeah its a shame they decided to enforce the law. :rolleyes:

Seriously what do you expect? Worry about cops? You should have nothing to worry about if you aren't breaking the law.

[fucksohc]

Yeah its a shame they decided to enforce the law. :rolleyes:

Seriously what do you expect? Worry about cops? You should have nothing to worry about if you aren't breaking the law.

now thats the truth:goodjob:

and he is in georgia tech... hes a smart man:yes:

fuk UGA!!!:taun:

[Vayda]

Enforcing the law is one thing, but i still hate those cameras. I mean, there are times when you need to run a red light - when it sticks, when it's an emergency, when it's 2am and you're driving to the hospital? But there's no way to fight a ticket with the things. If the cops want to enforce the law and stop people running red lights, then their butts need to be out there actually doing their job, not hiding in neighborhood entrances giving people speeding tickets for 10 over.

[Kyle]

Enforcing the law is one thing, but i still hate those cameras. I mean, there are times when you need to run a red light - when it sticks, when it's an emergency, when it's 2am and you're driving to the hospital? But there's no way to fight a ticket with the things. If the cops want to enforce the law and stop people running red lights, then their butts need to be out there actually doing their job, not hiding in neighborhood entrances giving people speeding tickets for 10 over.
There are cases that the lights can't account for because they aren't subjective. But I think the benefits outweigh the costs. Think about it.

[Vayda]

I'm not sure that i agree with you that the benefits really outweigh anything. The cameras don't stop people from running a redlight nearly as effectively as seeing a cop parked ahead of you would.

In october, i had a firsthand experience with this, as my boyfriend and I were t-boned by a drunk driver. We had a protected left turn arrow and he blew a redlight and slammed us (minor injuries only, thank god, but the poor car was very, very dead.) Anyway, having a redlight camera there wouldn't have stopped him. Not only was that driver unaware he was about to plow into someone, he didn't even see the light was red. Cameras wouldn't have stopped him. But had there been a cop car sitting at that intersection, lights on, the sight of blueberries up ahead might have.

[Stormhammer]

Yeah yellow means stop unless at the intersection dude.... and if you're a 1/4 mile away, you should be able to stop even doing 80mph... in other words you're the kind of ******* that I will one day spin out, drag their ass out of the car, and ****ing beat them to a goddamn pulp so badly that I will have broken a damn baseball bat.

[Kevykev]

I can relate to this topic :D


What if it's yellow when you go under?

mail worthy?

[Nemesis]

You actually can fight, and beat those tickets. Trust me, I know :)

[Echonova]

I am tired of being scared of those f****ing traffic light cameras. It is already bad enough watching out for cops when speeding, now u got to watch out for cameras.wtf:police: I got too many friends and family that got tickets in their mail and there is no way to fight it. cuz they got u on camera lol.I pheel u on dat cuz. I be hatin always havin one eye out fo da pigs. Day be harrassin us fo no resaon. Now I gots to worry about da carema two. I gots a huge tickets from one dem camera.
One for running a red light
two for my girl not wearing her seatbelt
three indecent exposure cuz she was giving me dome
all caught on dem dam cameras.

[DaMaGe ZWK]

if its yellow when you cross the line then you are ok... but if its red when you cross the line you get a ticket

[Kevykev]

if its yellow when you cross the line then you are ok... but if its red when you cross the line you get a ticket


Sounds about right but who knows how they apply that rule!

[DaMaGe ZWK]

yeah im not really sure how... but i know the redlights where i am have sensors for where the lines are...

[Wurm]

IVE ONLY RAN ONE REDLIGHT AND IT BECAUSE IT SKIPPED YELLOW OR WENT SO FAST I DIDNT SEE IT

[collins]

lol want a cookie?

[isa2o3]

-How about you go stealth mode and when you know your're about to go thru a red hit a button and hide your plates?

-Get that spray can that makes your plates invisible to the camera.

-Take your plates off.

-Or, the smartest idea ever, don't run them if you can't beat them.

lol, good tips

[isa2o3]

yeah im not really sure how... but i know the redlights where i am have sensors for where the lines are...

i know exactly what ur talking a/b. one of my friend got a ticket like that.

[isa2o3]

if its yellow when you cross the line then you are ok... but if its red when you cross the line you get a ticket

no dude. i u cross the line when it is yellow and it turns red half way there ur screwed.:police:

[Wurm]

lol want a cookie?
yes

[isa2o3]

Yeah yellow means stop unless at the intersection dude.... and if you're a 1/4 mile away, you should be able to stop even doing 80mph... in other words you're the kind of ******* that I will one day spin out, drag their ass out of the car, and ****ing beat them to a goddamn pulp so badly that I will have broken a damn baseball bat.

:thinking: i have no idea what ur talking about. if i was 1/4 miles away and it was yellow i would stop to. it is when i am really close and i think i can make it and it turns red.

[Tracy]

lol want a cookie?Whadda ya know? I have some.

[UpSideDownDesi]

my radar detector pix up light cams when i am approaching one :goodjob:

[Dirty Octopus™]

STOP.
just stop being scared then.
simple as that :headslap:

damn.... is this what IA WL come to? Useless vent threads about? CHeese and RicE! :crazy:

[Jaimecbr900]

Is it me or is there a lot of misinformation on IA lately? :thinking:


Red light cameras do indeed keep people from running red lights. I see it every single day of my life. Why? Because I drive by several intersections, one which used to be one of the worst ever for people running red lights, and people do indeed have their guard up and tend NOT to run the light since they know it's there. Matter of fact, often times people slam on their brakes at the mere sight of yellow now when they used to just plow right thru before. This is my only complaint about them. They cause accidents from people that freak out about them.

My wife got one, in the exact same intersection mentioned above, and she totally deserved it. It was not even close. The ticket came in the mail and had a pic of her car, tag, the amt of time the light was red BEFORE she entered the intersection, her speed, etc. There was no debating it, and since I was literally right behind her and STOPPED....I knew she blew the light. Called her on the cell and told her so.

My point for that little story is that to my knowledge the cameras don't give every single person that comes close a ticket. I think it has to be pretty obvious and blatant. If you've already entered the intersection, it will not give you one. It's happened to me at that same intersection, like I said I drive thru it everyday, several times before where I went thru the intersection just as it turned yellow or was flaming yellow and have so far never gotten a ticket.

Bottomline? Don't run red lights and you won't have anything to worry about. :goodjob:

[quickdodge®]

I am tired of being scared of those f****ing traffic light cameras. It is already bad enough watching out for cops when speeding, now u got to watch out for cameras.wtf:police: I got too many friends and family that got tickets in their mail and there is no way to fight it. cuz they got u on camera lol.

Is your intelligence meter set to stupid? What in the **** would make you tired of that? Why do they bother you unless you like running through red lights? And who says you have to watch for cops when you're speeding? Don't worry about them. The ignorance and asshattedry of the people here gain higher levels as each day passes. Later, QD.

[Stormhammer]

Also, am I the only one here that if approaching an intersection where I know I can't stop and the light goes yellow, actually floors it ( provided there is the room/no cars ahead )

[Dirty Octopus™]

The ignorance and asshattedry of the people here gain higher levels as each day passes. Later, QD.

Eggs Act Lee! das what am sayen!

[EssAreTwenTee]

the biggest thing is they dont give a **** about preventing people from running red lights. Its just another income source. They realize people are going to do it so this way they can catch more people doing it and get more money. Just like speeding. When I went to court last week in douglasville they told people if they werent a defendant they had to leave because they couldnt fit all the people with tickets into the courtroom. It's all about the money

[Dirty Octopus™]

the biggest thing is they dont give a **** about preventing people from running red lights. Its just another income source. They realize people are going to do it so this way they can catch more people doing it and get more money. Just like speeding. When I went to court last week in douglasville they told people if they werent a defendant they had to leave because they couldnt fit all the people with tickets into the courtroom. It's all about the money
your neon looks like a venomous amphibian of sorts :goodjob:

[Deke]

the biggest thing is they dont give a **** about preventing people from running red lights. Its just another income source. They realize people are going to do it so this way they can catch more people doing it and get more money. Just like speeding. When I went to court last week in douglasville they told people if they werent a defendant they had to leave because they couldnt fit all the people with tickets into the courtroom. It's all about the money

Haha, I just attribute to lot's of dumbasses with cars in the city of Atlanta. Granted, speed limits piss me off sometimes, but for the US, they are a necessary evil. And this whole red light camera thing, you simply shouldn't be running red lights. Nothing pisses me off more then when I have to wait to cross an intersection because some jackass decides he's going to floor it instead of slow down, thus completely running the light.

[Nemesis]

The only time I come even close to doing it, is once Ive passed that "point of no return" where slamming your brakes will put you right in the middle of the intersection.

[civic95]

Bottomline? Don't run red lights and you won't have anything to worry about. :goodjob:

X2

[Echonova]

What I do, is plan out my route for the day the night before. Then when I find an intersection with cameras, I shoot them out. That way, the next day I can run all the red lights I want with being scared of the cameras.

[quickdodge®]

Its just another income source. They realize people are going to do it so this way they can catch more people doing it and get more money. Just like speeding. When I went to court last week in douglasville they told people if they werent a defendant they had to leave because they couldnt fit all the people with tickets into the courtroom. It's all about the money

Wanna know a little secret about how you can beat the system?

QUIT DRIVING LIKE A GODDAMN DUMBASS!!!

Holy mother****ing **** how could something so ****ing simple be unknown to mass society? Plan on stopping for red lights in the future. Plan on driving the speed limit in the future. That can be your way of "sticking it to the man." **** that it may save a life or two. Goddamn idiots, man. Later, QD.

[EssAreTwenTee]

Wanna know a little secret about how you can beat the system?

QUIT DRIVING LIKE A GODDAMN DUMBASS!!!

Holy mother****ing **** how could something so ****ing simple be unknown to mass society? Plan on stopping for red lights in the future. Plan on driving the speed limit in the future. That can be your way of "sticking it to the man." **** that it may save a life or two. Goddamn idiots, man. Later, QD.

wow thank you for your infinite knowledge. I have 0 points on my license. I do not speed nor do I run red lights. But that is besides the point I was making. To believe that the reasoning behind traffic enforcement is for our better good or "to save a life or two" is moronic. Stupid people are going to kill themselves and others regardless of whether it is behind the wheel of a 3000lb piece of metal or shooting up some place. Local governments realize that. But by enforcing traffic laws vehemently they can bring in alot of income without public outcry that arises from taxation. Maybe I shouldve used large font and caps so you'd understand

[Deke]

wow thank you for your infinite knowledge. I have 0 points on my license. I do not speed nor do I run red lights. But that is besides the point I was making. To believe that the reasoning behind traffic enforcement is for our better good or "to save a life or two" is moronic. Stupid people are going to kill themselves and others regardless of whether it is behind the wheel of a 3000lb piece of metal or shooting up some place. Local governments realize that. But by enforcing traffic laws vehemently they can bring in alot of income without public outcry that arises from taxation. Maybe I shouldve used large font and caps so you'd understand

I'm going to have to continue to disagree on this. Yes, income is one reason, but if you don't think it's also for safety, then you sir are moronic. Sure, people still break the law, but you better believe that there would be a lot more people speeding and running red lights if it wasn't so strictly enforced, hence resulting in many more accidents and deaths. I'm glad that these laws are in place so driving in Atlanta wouldn't require an armored vehicle with a snow plow.

[KPowerEP3]

I'm going to have to continue to disagree on this. Yes, income is one reason, but if you don't think it's also for safety, then you sir are moronic. Sure, people still break the law, but you better believe that there would be a lot more people speeding and running red lights if it wasn't so strictly enforced, hence resulting in many more accidents and deaths. I'm glad that these laws are in place so driving in Atlanta wouldn't require an armored vehicle with a snow plow.

it pretty much does already. I can honestly say it makes my day to see someone driving like an ass get blue lighted.

[EssAreTwenTee]

I'm going to have to continue to disagree on this. Yes, income is one reason, but if you don't think it's also for safety, then you sir are moronic. Sure, people still break the law, but you better believe that there would be a lot more people speeding and running red lights if it wasn't so strictly enforced, hence resulting in many more accidents and deaths. I'm glad that these laws are in place so driving in Atlanta wouldn't require an armored vehicle with a snow plow. They've been enforcing it for how long now? And have people stopped speeding, running red lights, etc... Obviously it can't be working if courtrooms are filling to the brink every month with violators. And generally if something isnt working you change it. When I lived in Pa it was rare to see a speed trap or someone pulled over, and certainly not a camera, yet somehow they managed to not have completely vehicular anarchy. It may have changed but last i knew only state cops were even allowed to use radar/laser up there.

[quickdodge®]

wow thank you for your infinite knowledge.

Jealousy gets you nowhere in my book.


I have 0 points on my license. I do not speed nor do I run red lights.

I'm not DMV or an insurance agent so I don't give a **** about your MVR.


To believe that the reasoning behind traffic enforcement is for our better good or "to save a life or two" is moronic.

And to believe your rhetoric would be even more moronic.


Stupid people are going to kill themselves and others regardless of whether it is behind the wheel of a 3000lb piece of metal or shooting up some place.

Congrats on making sense out of all that other crap you opted to post.


Maybe I shouldve used large font and caps so you'd understand

Trust me, I understood. It may not be what you were "attempting" to convey, but I understood something, alright. Later, QD.

[quickdodge®]

I can honestly say it makes my day to see someone driving like an ass get blue lighted.

Same here. I get a good feeling when some dumbass gets pulled over. Later, QD.

[EssAreTwenTee]

Jealousy gets you nowhere in my book.



I'm not DMV or an insurance agent so I don't give a **** about your MVR.



And to believe your rhetoric would be even more moronic.



Congrats on making sense out of all that other crap you opted to post.



Trust me, I understood. It may not be what you were "attempting" to convey, but I understood something, alright. Later, QD.

rhetoric would imply that I have an agenda. In which I don't
Now maybe If I were to sit on a forum trying to get people to respect me since I apparently dont get respect in the real world I might have an agenda.

[quickdodge®]

They've been enforcing it for how long now? And have people stopped speeding, running red lights, etc... Obviously it can't be working

Obviously you can't understand logic. No one on here has said anything about speeding/traffic violations coming to a halt. The actual point is(yes someone else made a point) that if there were NO policing the roadways, that there would be a huge increase in the aftermaths of dangerous driving. It's really not hard if you really think about and stop going down every avenue trying to make me look wrong or stupid. Later, QD.

[quickdodge®]

Now maybe If I were to sit on a forum trying to get people to respect me since I apparently dont get respect in the real world I might have an agenda.

Last resort move. This is what people post to me when they know they've been shown the err of their ways. Later, QD.

[jaystar]

Dont run read lights end of story. until u kill some1 then u will be happy huh

[Deke]

Obviously you can't understand logic. No one on here has said anything about speeding/traffic violations coming to a halt. The actual point is(yes someone else made a point) that if there were NO policing the roadways, that there would be a huge increase in the aftermaths of dangerous driving. It's really not hard if you really think about and stop going down every avenue trying to make me look wrong or stupid. Later, QD.

Thank you sir. :goodjob:

[SL65AMG]

learn to use the ****ing brakes and not drive like an idiot. Red means stop.


i think the problem is the yellows..... its rare that someone blatantly runs and already red light but people jumping the yellows is more of a problem..... do the cameras work instantly after the lights turn red or is there some lag time????

[ubers2k]

i think the problem is the yellows..... its rare that someone blatantly runs and already red light but people jumping the yellows is more of a problem..... do the cameras work instantly after the lights turn red or is there some lag time????

no lag time at all. I've actually watched, at night, the cameras flash as the picture is taken. It happens maybe 1 second after the light changes.

[SicStang03]

I got out of one!!!

But it is a secret

[Psycho]

I am tired of being scared of those f****ing traffic light cameras. It is already bad enough watching out for cops when speeding, now u got to watch out for cameras.wtf:police: I got too many friends and family that got tickets in their mail and there is no way to fight it. cuz they got u on camera lol.
The answer to all your problems is here:
http://digg.com/gadgets/Make_your_license_plate_disappear_at_the_flick_of_ a_switch

[Doppelgänger]

Just showing my appreciation to the OP

[Jaimecbr900]

They've been enforcing it for how long now? And have people stopped speeding, running red lights, etc...

Wow, you have got you some logic there my friend. So in your little world, if something doesn't work right away you throw it away? Why'd you keep your brain then? :rolleyes:


Obviously it can't be working if courtrooms are filling to the brink every month with violators.

There's that magical logic again. You cup is always half-empty, isn't it? :rolleyes:

Why don't you look at the court rooms filling up as a sign that POLICE ARE doing their job correctly? Ever thought of that possibility? Funny how Police get stereotyped as lazy donut eating good for nothings, yet when they DO their job......people like YOU don't like it.:rolleyes: Isn't America great? :rolleyes:


And generally if something isnt working you change it.

It's funny how the naysayers have selective reasoning powers.

What part of, "I see it EVERY DAY and it WORKS..." didn't you understand. I've been driving by the same exact intersection(s) for almost 7 yrs now. I drove thru there when there were NO cameras and drove thru there just this morning when there ARE cameras. I see, with my own two eyes, that there is a HUGE difference in how drivers approach that SAME EXACT intersection that BEFORE the cameras were installed people used to run at will. Many, many people have been seriously injured and killed AT THAT INTERSECTION before. Matter of fact, I've personally gotten out to aid on 2 different occassions after nasty wrecks RIGHT THERE. So for someone with your logic skills to ASSume things aren't "working" is laughable at best. They work. Problem is that whiners don't like it when you hold their feet to the fire for THEIR mistakes. It's not rocket science. Don't run the light, don't get a ticket. It's not any more difficult than that.


When I lived in Pa it was rare to see a speed trap or someone pulled over, and certainly not a camera, yet somehow they managed to not have completely vehicular anarchy. It may have changed but last i knew only state cops were even allowed to use radar/laser up there.

Oh yeah, because PA or any part of the Northeast for that matter is the mecca for courteous and proper driving techniques. Whatever.

My uncle has lived in PA for the last 30+ yrs. He drives down to visit us atleast twice a year. Almost 20 hours in his car to get here. Ask HIM what he thinks about GA drivers vs PA drivers. :rolleyes: Whatever. Your logic failed miserably my friend. Miserably. :no:

[yudalicious]

I got a red light ticket in the mail once. Now I almost never run yellows. Seems to work for me.

[David88vert]

Here is the problem with red light cameras - they do not ticket the person driving the car - they ticket the registered owner. Basically, here in GA, the camera takes a picture of the tag, and they send the ticket to the person who owns the car - not who was actually driving. The problem with this approach is that the enforcement is not being made upon the person who broke the law.

Of course, with any law there are provisions of exclusivity. Since there is no officer to verify that you were the driver, you only have to claim that you lent the car out, and you were not the driver. The judge of course will ask who the driver was, and of course you would state that you lend your car out a lot and it could have been any of several people. Because the vehicle is not a commercial vehicle, you do not have to legally keep a log book, and would not know. Based upon the current law, the charges should be thrown out.
Here's the catch though: The ticket is a non-moving violation, and in most municipalities, it is only around $70. It will cost you more to take off from work to fight it, than to just pay it. I could have beat it when my wife got one in Lilburn (it got sent to me), but I would have lost money that day.
http://law.onecle.com/georgia/40/index.html

[Jaimecbr900]

Here is the problem with red light cameras - they do not ticket the person driving the car - they ticket the registered owner. Basically, here in GA, the camera takes a picture of the tag, and they send the ticket to the person who owns the car - not who was actually driving. The problem with this approach is that the enforcement is not being made upon the person who broke the law.

Of course, with any law there are provisions of exclusivity. Since there is no officer to verify that you were the driver, you only have to claim that you lent the car out, and you were not the driver. The judge of course will ask who the driver was, and of course you would state that you lend your car out a lot and it could have been any of several people. Because the vehicle is not a commercial vehicle, you do not have to legally keep a log book, and would not know. Based upon the current law, the charges should be thrown out.
Here's the catch though: The ticket is a non-moving violation, and in most municipalities, it is only around $70. It will cost you more to take off from work to fight it, than to just pay it. I could have beat it when my wife got one in Lilburn (it got sent to me), but I would have lost money that day.
http://law.onecle.com/georgia/40/index.html

That's all fine and good, except for one thing: You either did run the light or you didn't. If you did and just use a loop hole to get out of it, it doesn't say anything about the law being faulty....only you being at fault and getting away with it. If you really didn't do it, then just name who did and let them get the ticket. After all, like you said, it's not even a point deducting violation and relatively inexpensive.

[ShadetreeSHOguy]

Yeah, this redlight camera bullsh!t has gotten a few people i work with in trouble. I work for a company that has fleet vehicles that we take home. Well, of couse the registered owner of the truck is our office and the damned ticket gets mailed to the office. It's hell trying to find out who the hell was driving the truck :no: . BTW guys, heads up, Sandy Plains rd, by the August of next year, will have redlight cameras at EVERY ****ING INTERSECTION!:2up: I know this cause the company that is puting in the fiber optic line is the one that hit the gas main tuesday that closed the ****ing road down.

[quickdodge®]

Yeah, this redlight camera bullsh!t has gotten a few people i work with in trouble. I work for a company that has fleet vehicles that we take home. Well, of couse the registered owner of the truck is our office and the damned ticket gets mailed to the office. It's hell trying to find out who the hell was driving the truck :no: . BTW guys, heads up, Sandy Plains rd, by the August of next year, will have redlight cameras at EVERY ****ING INTERSECTION!:2up: I know this cause the company that is puting in the fiber optic line is the one that hit the gas main tuesday that closed the ****ing road down.

If you'd tell your ****ing "fleet" to learn how to ****ing drive, you wouldn't have any problems with this. Would you? How come common sense isn't so common in some people? Later, QD.