skunk2 vs buddyclub

[owweee]

Im having some hard time picking out which cams are better and which one should i go with..just thought i would post this to see what IA thinks...

Skunk2 pro2 or the BuddyClub stage4


LMK....:goodjob:

edit mod...

B20vtec



B16a head DNR Ported/Polished/chambers reworked to eliminate sharp edges
SKunk2 Pro2/Buddyclub stage4 cams
Spoon cam gear
TWM ITB
Skunk2pro valve springs/ti retainers
Skunk2 Valves
ARP head Studs
RMF or RANG headers

B20b block Stock sleeves
89MM stroke LS crank
Wiseco or CP 84.5mm 13.1-14.1cr 8.25cc dome
GE block guard (welded)
GE rods with 5/16 small bolts
ITR oil Pump/Water pump
OEM honda bearings on the Mains and ACL race bearing for the GE rods

Exedy stage 2 clutch and racing. flywheel
Stock oil pan
ITR Tranny
Wabro 255 fuel pump
Tune it on hondata s300 and race fuel....

I think that’s all..

[HeLLo iM iZzY]

I say Toda.

[owweee]

^ yea i would too but they're kinda to high for my budget..but i haven't really did any research on them yet...but thanks for letting me know

[j0nbunklah0m]

TODAAAAA haha jus kuz the name sounds kool :O

[owweee]

lol...^

[Grimm Reeper]

Wow with those stage 4 Buddy Clubs you better have a thick Head Gasket or some pistons that domes aren't very high because I have Buddy Club Spec III Pro's and they'll push those valves down there alright :lmfao:

[deady]

What motor? What other mods are done? I'll assume you're planning on upgraded valve-train, and tuning...

[owweee]

^ yes i am buddie..everything is going to be done the right way..i don't really like to give out what im doing but it's going to heavily mod..it's going on a b16head

[Grimm Reeper]

^ yes i am buddie..everything is going to be done the right way..i don't really like to give out what im doing but it's going to heavily mod..it's going on a b16head

Well that's not going to get you much of anywhere, your not doing anything that no one else has done, so out of my generosity I'll show you what I've done with a B16. http://www.importatlanta.com/forums/showthread.php?t=140331

Also with that being said I take it that your not going to be asking for much help on here without telling someone what you have so that they could tell you what your doing wrong if not right.

[owweee]

^ yea i know..just a b20v setup

[owweee]

btw..clean head..did you do the jopb yourself??

[Grimm Reeper]

^ yea i know..just a b20v setup

So a B16 Head on a B20 Block

[bigdare23]

^ yes i am buddie..everything is going to be done the right way..i don't really like to give out what im doing but it's going to heavily mod..it's going on a b16head


Sorry to tell you but people can't help you if they dont know the specs of your motor. If you want to keep it a "secret", search h-t and see how their motors have responded to those cams with similar setup as yours and make your decision based on that.

[Grimm Reeper]

btw..clean head..did you do the jopb yourself??

Thanx, starting on a new one as we speak. Well that head met an horrific end. I didn't install the valves, valve stem, valve seals, or valve keepers, but I did do the cams amongst other things and also adjusting the clearance between the rockers and valves.

link of my head now lol: http://www.importatlanta.com/forums/showthread.php?t=150587

[Grimm Reeper]

We can only help you if your willing to accept what we say and with that we'll need to know the important stuff :goodjob:

[owweee]

yea i know it's going on a b20v...about 13.1cr.,stock sleeve *maybe*, itb, buddyclub stage4 head setup...something similar to that rout



Sorry to tell you but people can't help you if they dont know the specs of your motor. If you want to keep it a "secret", search h-t and see how their motors have responded to those cams with similar setup as yours and make your decision based on that.

[bigdare23]

yea i know it's going on a b20v...about 13.1cr.,stock sleeve *maybe*, itb, buddyclub stage4 head setup...something similar to that rout


http://www.honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=2032889

[owweee]

thanks bigdare 23

[bigdare23]

thanks bigdare 23


your welcome :goodjob:

[Grimm Reeper]

Thanx Dare :goodjob:















*turns head in shame*

[owweee]

your welcome :goodjob:

btw which one would you perfer?? sk2 or bc

[owweee]

BTw i'll post up my mods when i get home from work....

[bigdare23]

BTw i'll post up my mods when i get home from work....


Personal, I'm kinda in the position you're in LOL. I can decide on cams. I have CTRs but thinking about changing to BCIII. So I'm researching before I do because I don't feel like forking over money for new cams for just a limited gain over what I already have.

As for you, the specs you already posted seems like you would benefit good with a big cam. So I would look into the Skunk2 Pro series. :goodjob:

[owweee]

mods up...

[Grimm Reeper]

That's some list.......

[owweee]

^ is that suppose to be a good thing or bad??hahaha

[bigdare23]

mods up...


Damn :goodjob:

Yeah Pro2s for your setup!!!

or if you can find a even bigger cam, get those LOL

[owweee]

^ i want to try out the toda vtec killa cams but damn it's just to much for me..hahaha.. but if i going this far i might as will get them but i haven't heard anything to good about them..plus i still want to drive it on the street sometime...to meets or so...

[bigdare23]

^ i want to try out the toda vtec killa cams but damn it's just to much for me..hahaha.. but if i going this far i might as will get them but i haven't heard anything to good about them..plus i still want to drive it on the street sometime...to meets or so...


no you dont lol

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1nidxuvNoqk

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9gojDEvBNM8

[EmminoDaGreat]

skunk2

[bigdare23]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dHVCyj4GqPo&feature=related

[owweee]

haha...yea i've seen those...but i don't know which road to take...but i thinking about the sk2 for now...

[Grimm Reeper]

yea skunk 2 would be the best for you and gl, how long do you thing you'll get it going?

[owweee]

im going to take my time on it so maybe by the middle of summer if im pushing it...looking to push atlease 250+ to the wheels...will that's my goal for now..=)

[Grimm Reeper]

Are you going to do the work or is someone going to do it for you? *not trying to get all personal or nothing* lol

[owweee]

im going to try to do this one myself...if i f*ck up o well..haha..jk...

[Grimm Reeper]

im going to try to do this one myself...if i f*ck up o well..haha..jk...

Believe me I already know....lol

[owweee]

o yea..damn will i hope it's up and running now...=)

[owweee]

so does anyone have anymore cams to throw out for me???

[Grimm Reeper]

Have you thought about Crower?

[owweee]

yea but i haven't done any research on them and don't know to much or know anyone that has them..but if you got some info on it lmk...that would be a plus...

[Vteckidd]

This sounds similar to Julians setup.

I would run Skunk2 PRO2s in that setup. With that displacement and that compression, the PRO2 cams will really shine.

YOu should really run PRO3s, but unless you have someone that can CORRECTLY degree the cams, you wont make any power.

If your going to go with BC, stick with BC4.

I prefer Skunk2 though to ANYONE on the market. They make power, period.

Crower is junk IMHO.

[Grimm Reeper]

Had a friend who worked on someones car who had just so happen to crack/brake a cam, it was Crower I think, had a warranty lol

[owweee]

yea i want to go with the sk2 pro3 but i than i wouldnt be able to drive it on the street...i want to keep this thing streetable at time...haha



This sounds similar to Julians setup.

I would run Skunk2 PRO2s in that setup. With that displacement and that compression, the PRO2 cams will really shine.

YOu should really run PRO3s, but unless you have someone that can CORRECTLY degree the cams, you wont make any power.

If your going to go with BC, stick with BC4.

I prefer Skunk2 though to ANYONE on the market. They make power, period.

Crower is junk IMHO.

[Vteckidd]

PRO3s are streetable, i had them on my car, idled like stock.

Only cams that arent really streetable, are VTEC KILLERS from TODA

[owweee]

in that case you know anyone that can correctly degree the pro3??




PRO3s are streetable, i had them on my car, idled like stock.

Only cams that arent really streetable, are VTEC KILLERS from TODA

[Vteckidd]

Don FLores
DFE Enterprises

DonF on Honda-tech

[owweee]

are they local??




Don FLores
DFE Enterprises

DonF on Honda-tech

[Vteckidd]

No hes in Jacksonville FL.

If your engine is in the car, just stick with PRO2s. If your motor is outside of the car, and your looking for BIG POWER, id reccomend having don set it up.

My motor made 20-30whp more than anyone else locally an it was because i had DON build the motor.

[owweee]

if you have the time..you mind PMing his number and addy?? and yes my motor is out of the car..do i just send him the head and all the goodies with the head to him??




No hes in Jacksonville FL.

If your engine is in the car, just stick with PRO2s. If your motor is outside of the car, and your looking for BIG POWER, id reccomend having don set it up.

My motor made 20-30whp more than anyone else locally an it was because i had DON build the motor.

[Vteckidd]

Your best bet is to PM him on Honda-Tech.com

DonF is his username. He is a 1 man shop an hard to get ahold of.

If you get lucky, you can call him at:
904-378-4480

TELL HIM MIKE/VTECKIDD REFERRED YOU.

Don is prob the best engine builder on the east coast, you will pay for his time, but its well worth it if you are out for MAX power

My LSVTEC was so simple:
CP 12:1 Pistons
Eagle Rods
ITR Head
Hytech Header
Skunk2 PRO3s
AEBS Intake manifold
Skunk2 70mm TB
ROcket Motorsports SPrings/Ret

On pump gas i made 237whp/160TQ. There hasnt been anyone NEAR those numbers locally. Every motor i have dynoed locally with even close to the same setup hasnt cracked 210whp.

there is 20-30 whp in cam setup, especially pro3s.

so if its serious power you want, TRUST ME, PAY DON and TAKE IT TO HIM! YOU WILL BE VERY HAPPY

[Vteckidd]

FYI he just got done building a buddy of mines 2.0l LSVTEC with almost the same setup you have, and it made 280BHP (Flywheel HP)(YES HE HAS AN ENGINE DYNO)
if you do the 13% drivetrain loss thats=244whp (not bad for pump gas)

[Vteckidd]

Check This Out, SMSP uses DFE

http://sms-products.com/Engines.html

[owweee]

thanks mrkidd..i'll let him know that you referred me to him and i'll send off my motor to him..when im ready..


Your best bet is to PM him on Honda-Tech.com

DonF is his username. He is a 1 man shop an hard to get ahold of.

If you get lucky, you can call him at:
904-378-4480

TELL HIM MIKE/VTECKIDD REFERRED YOU.

Don is prob the best engine builder on the east coast, you will pay for his time, but its well worth it if you are out for MAX power

My LSVTEC was so simple:
CP 12:1 Pistons
Eagle Rods
ITR Head
Hytech Header
Skunk2 PRO3s
AEBS Intake manifold
Skunk2 70mm TB
ROcket Motorsports SPrings/Ret

On pump gas i made 237whp/160TQ. There hasnt been anyone NEAR those numbers locally. Every motor i have dynoed locally with even close to the same setup hasnt cracked 210whp.

there is 20-30 whp in cam setup, especially pro3s.

so if its serious power you want, TRUST ME, PAY DON and TAKE IT TO HIM! YOU WILL BE VERY HAPPY

[owweee]

but really if all said and done i may just end up with the pro2..=/