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1kreationz40
12-02-2007, 10:56 PM
guess what ef ridas...came across this dude from grifin.....ga...old dude had a ef with a JDM b16 for sale with original jdm mounts and linkages and ecu.....told me if i take the motor out myself i could have it for $400......WATTA BARGIN....DUUUDES


heres a pictures from up top...!

http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d7/lsxtreme81/DSCN2472.jpg

AnTi-PooN
12-02-2007, 10:59 PM
nice find

Papa_Smurf
12-02-2007, 11:23 PM
wtf?!?!!?!?!

lol you suck, i want a b16 mang

AnTi-PooN
12-02-2007, 11:32 PM
^^^^^ wimp, i want a k20 in my hatch on 20 psi

1kreationz40
12-02-2007, 11:40 PM
lucky me, ill post some picture up while doing the swap

Papa_Smurf
12-02-2007, 11:41 PM
dont you allready have a b16 in that...?

dont u have the jdm front end hatch w/ roll cage?

smokeyj
12-02-2007, 11:50 PM
was that in a crx

1kreationz40
12-02-2007, 11:52 PM
ef hatch

Papa_Smurf
12-02-2007, 11:56 PM
^^^ answur me!

1kreationz40
12-03-2007, 12:01 AM
nope...thats not meeh...this is meeh....

http://www.importatlanta.com/forums/showthread.php?t=148002

1kreationz40
12-03-2007, 12:02 AM
i got 2 d16a6 forsale....lemme know something guys...no more needs for it no more. since i got the b16.....$500 obo pick both of them up

Foxturbo
12-03-2007, 12:07 AM
would u take 250 for one

1kreationz40
12-03-2007, 12:11 AM
ummmm.....imma wait on that, see if theres any other offers....really wanna get rid of both of them....taking best offers for both of them though...!

bigdare23
12-03-2007, 12:12 AM
Cant beat a deal like that if it runs good.

Foxturbo
12-03-2007, 12:17 AM
dang i wish i would have known sooner cuz i just bought parts and i have 250 left over n i need a d16 ill wait but if u can just tell me when need ill have the cash on hand.

1kreationz40
12-03-2007, 12:20 AM
Cant beat a deal like that if it runs good.

no doubt....!

JDMJAYDC2
12-03-2007, 02:05 PM
man thats a killer deal i dont even know how to take out motor all that well yet and id still be like yeah i can do a swap lol i do have ben on speed dial though

JDMJAYDC2
12-03-2007, 02:07 PM
better question is what the hell is a old dude doing with a damn jdm swap in a ef???? ive seen old ppl with gsr tegs but swapped cars!!!! are we all getting that old to where a swapped ef is the norm?

Grimm Reeper
12-03-2007, 02:18 PM
Not to knock you, but that's a USDM Si motor unless they went through the trouble to change the Intake Manifold on it.

http://i234.photobucket.com/albums/ee223/JDM_EK4/eg6-b16a.jpg

From the picture, you'll notice the following.

Absence of a PGM-F1 label on the intake manifold.

The Intake manifold has no bulge on the back side (side facing the firewall).

Connector plugs on the engine harnesses are grey instead of milky white.

Absence of vacuum dashpots on the intake manifold and throttle body.

MAP sensor is an integral part of the throttle body, not an external one with a tube.

EvasiveEF9
12-03-2007, 02:27 PM
man thats a killer deal i dont even know how to take out motor all that well yet and id still be like yeah i can do a swap lol i do have ben on speed dial though
I don't know how to take motors out, either...

Actually, I don't know anything about Honda's...let alone a civic...

JDMJAYDC2
12-03-2007, 02:41 PM
I don't know how to take motors out, either...

Actually, I don't know anything about Honda's...let alone a civic...



At first when you told this joke i thought it was funny but seeing all the problems ive had with my integra since i got it back from you turns out Ben telling the truth FTL:no:












































:D

Papa_Smurf
12-03-2007, 02:45 PM
better question is what the hell is a old dude doing with a damn jdm swap in a ef???? ive seen old ppl with gsr tegs but swapped cars!!!! are we all getting that old to where a swapped ef is the norm?

my dad's 59, has a b16 swapped EF, one of the cleanest around (usdm front end wise) and is in the process of making it faster....:D

my dad is teh **** :yes:

JDMJAYDC2
12-03-2007, 02:50 PM
well alan you are the rare one of the bunch so its normal

Papa_Smurf
12-03-2007, 02:52 PM
^ lol that statement doesn't make since.... i'm RARE therefore i'm NORMAL...:thinking:

EvasiveEF9
12-03-2007, 03:06 PM
At first when you told this joke i thought it was funny but seeing all the problems ive had with my integra since i got it back from you turns out Ben telling the truth FTL:no:


:D
Asshat, I missed the alternator charge wire! I didn't fully connect it because I didn't want it to break in the event I had to drop the motor, again...

As for the minor oil leak...that's a defect in the gasket from Honda. I've not had that problem anywhere else before...

Grimm Reeper
12-03-2007, 03:24 PM
Asshat, I missed the alternator charge wire! I didn't fully connect it because I didn't want it to break in the event I had to drop the motor, again...

As for the minor oil leak...that's a defect in the gasket from Honda. I've not had that problem anywhere else before...

:lmfao: What about the axle:lmfao:

There was no way to pop that back in without pulling it out:lmfao:

I was trying to tell you and your manager that. There we go not listening to me because I just so happen to look Black:no: thanks Ben, I thought you were cooler than the other side of the pillow :lmfao:

1kreationz40
12-03-2007, 03:32 PM
Not to knock you, but that's a USDM Si motor unless they went through the trouble to change the Intake Manifold on it.

http://i234.photobucket.com/albums/ee223/JDM_EK4/eg6-b16a.jpg

From the picture, you'll notice the following.

Absence of a PGM-F1 label on the intake manifold.

The Intake manifold has no bulge on the back side (side facing the firewall).

Connector plugs on the engine harnesses are grey instead of milky white.

Absence of vacuum dashpots on the intake manifold and throttle body.

MAP sensor is an integral part of the throttle body, not an external one
with a tube.



a link to the history of b16...it will tell you a lil bout the intake manifold as to how u describe it as unless they went through all the trouble to change the intake manifold.....!

http://asia.vtec.net/topics/b16aver.html


(http://asia.vtec.net/topics/b16aver.html)

1kreationz40
12-03-2007, 03:34 PM
better question is what the hell is a old dude doing with a damn jdm swap in a ef???? ive seen old ppl with gsr tegs but swapped cars!!!! are we all getting that old to where a swapped ef is the norm?

i was told, he won the auction through ebay, getting his son his first car, and wifey financed a 03 si hatch, so he was selling the whole car, for $800, so i only wanted the motor,, so $400 i take it out...!

1kreationz40
12-03-2007, 03:37 PM
incase u's didnt know, look at the picture JDM_EK4 post dup, the vtec sol is smaller then the one thats on my motor, cause why, ITS JDM lol

bigdare23
12-03-2007, 03:39 PM
i was told, he won the auction through ebay, getting his son his first car, and wifey financed a 03 si hatch, so he was selling the whole car, for $800, so i only wanted the motor,, so $400 i take it out...!


why didn't you just buy the car? :thinking:

bigdare23
12-03-2007, 03:40 PM
a link to the history of b16...it will tell you a lil bout the intake manifold as to how u describe it as unless they went through all the trouble to change the intake manifold.....!

http://asia.vtec.net/topics/b16aver.html


(http://asia.vtec.net/topics/b16aver.html)


That's an obd0 b16 homie.

Grimm Reeper
12-03-2007, 03:43 PM
a link to the history of b16...it will tell you a lil bout the intake manifold as to how u describe it as unless they went through all the trouble to change the intake manifold.....!

http://asia.vtec.net/topics/b16aver.html


(http://asia.vtec.net/topics/b16aver.html)

L M F A O at your attemp. I can pull up about 5 other links that will tell me about the motor, but just baseing on the pic that you've provided so I'll just show you 1 link: http://www.jspecautosports.com/files/jspecautotechcenter1l.htm

and btw this is out of your own link: However, TOVA cautions that this is a quick and general guide and will not be fool-proof.


And sir if you could, tell what it says on the block:goodjob: Even better to proving me wrong, if I am :ninja:


What to look for


Japanese market (JDM) B16A motors are labelled with a "B16A" stamp. There is NO suffix (e,g, B16A2 or B16A3) like the US, Asian or European counterparts. Hence it isnt easy to tell just by looking at the block stamp.

Grimm Reeper
12-03-2007, 03:44 PM
incase u's didnt know, look at the picture JDM_EK4 post dup, the vtec sol is smaller then the one thats on my motor, cause why, ITS JDM lol

No, just because it's old :lmfao:

JDMJAYDC2
12-03-2007, 03:48 PM
wow this turned somewhere i didnt expect good ol i know my jdm better than you battle royale. LETTTSSSSS GEEEETTTTT RREEEAAADDDYYY TTOOOO RUUUMMMBBBLLLEEEE!!!

Grimm Reeper
12-03-2007, 03:49 PM
I have in my possession a JDM B16 Head sir with the Intake Manifold and I can quote if not point out the difference between the 2 and to take it up a notch, I also have a B16A2 Head and I can tell you all about it.

1kreationz40
12-03-2007, 03:52 PM
ummmm.....as to some people on here thinking they know too much, as i title this thread..... Picking Up A Complete OBDO B16 Motor....DUHHH....there's no OBDO b16 in the usa....and duhhh......its stamped B16A....on the block........and duhhhh its a jdm motor, the one with 160 hp.....and duhhh....there is a jdm b16a obd1 with 170 hp.....hahaha lol...!


heres some more pictures....DUHHHHH haha lol....and DUHHH the 1st motor would be the one i got....lol

http://www.jdmracingmotors.com/index.php?cPath=22&osCsid=360ec4e06d88d3d397293dc75a396b74

bigdare23
12-03-2007, 03:54 PM
ummmm.....as to some people on here thinking they know too much, as i title this thread..... Picking Up A Complete OBDO B16 Motor....DUHHH....there's no OBDO b16 in the usa....and duhhh......its stamped B16A....on the block........and duhhhh its a jdm motor, the one with 160 hp.....and duhhh....there is a jdm b16a obd1 with 170 hp.....hahaha lol...!


If it's stamped B16A, that solved it.

JDMJAYDC2
12-03-2007, 03:56 PM
duhhh i dont have a b16 duhhh how bout someone give me one...... and duhhhh my hatch is slow.... and duhhhh i want vtec dammit..... and duhhh alan and i have blue hatches. and duhhhh oh yeah im done

1kreationz40
12-03-2007, 03:57 PM
I have in my possession a JDM B16 Head sir with the Intake Manifold and I can quote if not point out the difference between the 2 and to take it up a notch, I also have a B16A2 Head and I can tell you all about it.


no thank you....just click the link i just provided and im pretty sure you should see the other 2 b16 motors that you might have....thank q come again

bigdare23
12-03-2007, 03:58 PM
duhhh i dont have a b16 duhhh how bout someone give me one...... and duhhhh my hatch is slow.... and duhhhh i want vtec dammit..... and duhhh alan and i have blue hatches. and duhhhh oh yeah im done


you can have mine....................better yet you can can have my car too :gay:

1kreationz40
12-03-2007, 03:58 PM
duhhh i dont have a b16 duhhh how bout someone give me one...... and duhhhh my hatch is slow.... and duhhhh i want vtec dammit..... and duhhh alan and i have blue hatches. and duhhhh oh yeah im done


haha lol..!

Grimm Reeper
12-03-2007, 04:02 PM
no thank you....just click the link i just provided and im pretty sure you should see the other 2 b16 motors that you might have....thank q come again

Bwhahahahahahahahahahaha :lmfao:

Well I can't argue if it has it stamped on the block

JDMJAYDC2
12-03-2007, 04:04 PM
you can have mine....................better yet you can can have my car too :gay:

how exactly do i get to your penthouse studio apt.?? hell keys in hand as we speak homie ive always wanted a rex(daydreams)




like you would really give up your heart and soul lol

1kreationz40
12-03-2007, 04:07 PM
remember, theres sir 1 and sir 2 and sir 3......jdm sir 1 = 160hp DOHC sign is bigger the vtec sign and is stamped B16A on block, same on jdm sir 2 = 170 hp DOHC sign is smaller then vtec sign, b16a stamp on block, only usdm are a2 and a3, is with 160 hp......FATALITY.....!

Grimm Reeper
12-03-2007, 04:07 PM
ummmm.....as to some people on here thinking they know too much, as i title this thread..... Picking Up A Complete OBDO B16 Motor....DUHHH....there's no OBDO b16 in the usa....and duhhh......its stamped B16A....on the block........and duhhhh its a jdm motor, the one with 160 hp.....and duhhh....there is a jdm b16a obd1 with 170 hp.....hahaha lol...!


heres some more pictures....DUHHHHH haha lol....and DUHHH the 1st motor would be the one i got....lol

http://www.jdmracingmotors.com/index.php?cPath=22&osCsid=360ec4e06d88d3d397293dc75a396b74




lol btw sir anybody can use a motor but change out a dizzy, alternator and starter to put it in a different obd car :goodjob: just thought you should know that. So I could sell you an obd2 motor but for it to work in an older car just to change those out so........................................

Info: REJECTED




and bwhahahahahahahaha again


I can take a pick of my car and tell you it's JDM lol

JDMJAYDC2
12-03-2007, 04:09 PM
remember, theres sir 1 and sir 2 and sir 3......jdm sir 1 = 160hp DOHC sign is bigger the vtec sign and is stamped B16A on block, same on jdm sir 2 = 170 hp DOHC sign is smaller then vtec sign, b16a stamp on block, only usdm are a2 and a3, is with 160 hp......FATALITY.....!


Player 2 insert coins

bigdare23
12-03-2007, 04:10 PM
Player 2 insert coins


LOL

1kreationz40
12-03-2007, 04:12 PM
ummmm......oh well....who gives, this is getting boring.....i guess u prove ur point then haha lol.....people these days....!

1kreationz40
12-03-2007, 04:13 PM
Player 2 insert coins


LOL oh damn, this is getting ill

Grimm Reeper
12-03-2007, 04:14 PM
ummmm......oh well....who gives, this is getting boring.....i guess u prove ur point then haha lol.....people these days....!

wow..... would you look at this :gay:


ohhh and your welcome for me helping you get your post up so that you can sell :goodjob:

JDMJAYDC2
12-03-2007, 04:14 PM
alan stop stalking!!!

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1kreationz40
12-03-2007, 04:16 PM
wow..... would you look at this :gay:


ohhh and your welcome for me helping you get your post up so that you can sell :goodjob:


ROUND 6 FIGHT


sell....?.....i guess again lol

JDMJAYDC2
12-03-2007, 04:18 PM
anyone got change for a 5?? that damn tilt guy is around here somewhere?????

JDMJAYDC2
12-03-2007, 04:31 PM
(opens door) hello!!!!....... echoooooo. (closes door)

jfrolang
12-03-2007, 05:27 PM
If I had seen this earlier I would have owned some misinformation.

JDMJAYDC2
12-03-2007, 05:59 PM
now you come in here jeff

EvasiveEF9
12-03-2007, 10:15 PM
...ok, so what's a b16, anyways? Is that a V16 motor?

RiDinDurRty
12-04-2007, 12:43 PM
Yesterday, 03:18 PM
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Not to knock you, but that's a USDM Si motor unless they went through the trouble to change the Intake Manifold on it.



From the picture, you'll notice the following.

Absence of a PGM-F1 label on the intake manifold.

The Intake manifold has no bulge on the back side (side facing the firewall).

Connector plugs on the engine harnesses are grey instead of milky white.

Absence of vacuum dashpots on the intake manifold and throttle body.

MAP sensor is an integral part of the throttle body, not an external one with a tube.
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it really bugs me when ppl dont have a clue what theyre talkin bout. jdm ek4 the motor youre talkin about is obd1. th one kreationz found is obd0. so dont knock someone thinkin you know it all. your facts are tru but its a different gen. all this usdm and jdm s*** i'm assuming your white? right

Papa_Smurf
12-04-2007, 01:42 PM
alan stop stalking!!!

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Ia is about the only website i go to, so when i have to go sumwhere, i just leave all the **** up, hence the reason it says i was active.

thank you captin assshat.

BTW, go look in the parts for sale section, this kid "99exdriver" has sum tight wheels he wants to trade for sum si's + $200(ballpark)


...ok, so what's a b16, anyways? Is that a V16 motor?

it's a v8 i believe. we were gonna put one in the starfire, but opted for the v6 instead :(

1kreationz40
12-04-2007, 01:43 PM
Yesterday, 03:18 PM
JDM_EK4
Is Ignorance Curable Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: The Suburbs
Posts: 1,397





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Not to knock you, but that's a USDM Si motor unless they went through the trouble to change the Intake Manifold on it.



From the picture, you'll notice the following.

Absence of a PGM-F1 label on the intake manifold.

The Intake manifold has no bulge on the back side (side facing the firewall).

Connector plugs on the engine harnesses are grey instead of milky white.

Absence of vacuum dashpots on the intake manifold and throttle body.

MAP sensor is an integral part of the throttle body, not an external one with a tube.
__________________

it really bugs me when ppl dont have a clue what theyre talkin bout. jdm ek4 the motor youre talkin about is obd1. th one kreationz found is obd0. so dont knock someone thinkin you know it all. your facts are tru but its a different gen. all this usdm and jdm s*** i'm assuming your white? right



THANKS BUD......Ohhh Someone Just Got Burnt.....!

EvasiveEF9
12-04-2007, 02:45 PM
it's a v8 i believe. we were gonna put one in the starfire, but opted for the v6 instead :(
Ok, so my civic had the v6...the d15, and then I put in the 4cyl b18? WTF was I thinking! Why did no one tell me...

I bet when I did it the car transferred to front wheel drive, too...didn't it...

1kreationz40
12-04-2007, 03:07 PM
Ok, so my civic had the v6...the d15, and then I put in the 4cyl b18? WTF was I thinking! Why did no one tell me...

I bet when I did it the car transferred to front wheel drive, too...didn't it...


WTF....lol.....!

Grimm Reeper
12-04-2007, 05:29 PM
it really bugs me when ppl dont have a clue what theyre talkin bout. jdm ek4 the motor youre talkin about is obd1. th one kreationz found is obd0. so dont knock someone thinkin you know it all. your facts are tru but its a different gen. all this usdm and jdm s*** i'm assuming your white? right


[Peter Griffins voice] You wanna know what really grinds my gears, is that it's over and done with a point was made. To me the door on this was closed yesterday, thanx for your late input, but to be completely honest with you, I don't really give a **** about the situation anymore. I'm still living my happy merry life with my soon to be put together B16A so please 4evacatchin you and your protege can now forever let go of my nuts and get back to what ever that you all do when nobody is looking:no:

"It bugs you" L M F A O, all this usdm and jdm s*** i'm assuming your white? right

Your a real genius for that statement sir, I would use it as a sig but looking at what I have right now is more pleasing to the eye than your laughing all day to your idiotic statement above. Like white people are the only ones that know anything about usdm or jdm you fawk'n moron, there's latins, blacks, and who can forget about the asians. Here are 2 options that you're left with right now:

http://i234.photobucket.com/albums/ee223/JDM_EK4/1524460714_l.jpg
or you can
http://i234.photobucket.com/albums/ee223/JDM_EK4/gtfo1.gif





Thanx for Stopping by:bannana:


So what if I am white!!!!!



and what do we have here


THANKS BUD......Ohhh Someone Just Got Burnt.....!

Well if it isn't the hype man back with another **** in your mouth I see...... I'm just curious, do you not like have a corner to be standing on because it's like everytime I turn around you seemed to of put another **** in your mouth and quite frankly I'm disgusted. I've got burnt, you've got to be ****'n kidding me the fact of the matter was that it's a different gen ok my bad
,wow :dj: :bump: as far as being burnt by the statement above is really like a small carpet burn like the one your mom gets when I'm :idb: and be a good boy to tell her big daddy will be a lil late tonight :goodjob: now back to this burnt thing the only one that's burnt is you by having unprotected sex with your homo in crime up there 4evacatchin, you seem to be doing a lot of pitch'n and catch'n through out this entire thread so I wouldn't be surprised. I should of seen it coming that you would go cry to somebody about what was being said and here you go bringing a friend to back you up. THANKS BUD......Ohhh Someone Just Got Burnt.....!:umno: :lmfao: Flatulence from an infant has more creativity in it than everything you've ever thought of. Now if your finished being a whinning whore, we can all return back to our normal lives of not giving a **** about what you think, say, do, or hold dearest to you heart.:no:



By the way I got a lil gift for the both of you:yes:



Thanks for joining :police:

[Exits the Room] *Hears YMCA in the background*

jfrolang
12-04-2007, 05:44 PM
For someone that talks about curing ignorance and tolerating morons, you sure do a lot of hating when you find out you were wrong. And then you bring his mom into it! Grow up and go back to the EG forums plz.

Grimm Reeper
12-04-2007, 05:45 PM
For someone that talks about curing ignorance and tolerating morons, you sure do a lot of hating when you find out you were wrong. And then you bring his mom into it! Grow up and go back to the EG forums plz.

Wow sir reading is not your friend....:no:

1kreationz40
12-04-2007, 05:49 PM
Damn it must had hurt the human mind and emotions huh....lol....Yeeeep Yep Yep Yep Yep.... :no::no:How can you tolerate knowing that you're a MORON!!!:no::no:

Grimm Reeper
12-04-2007, 05:51 PM
Damn it must had hurt the human mind and emotions huh....lol....Yeeeep Yep Yep Yep Yep.... :no::no:How can you tolerate knowing that you're a MORON!!!:no::no:

There goes that creativity level again with a side of my **** in your mouth....lol please I don't want to, Me no likey sores on my thang....

jfrolang
12-04-2007, 05:53 PM
Well I read the part where you were wrong, and then I read the part where you were corrected, and then I read the part where you launched an hour-long spiel of personal attacks because you were tired of being corrected. Being called white is hardly an insult, unless you don't accept it of course.

You can let it be, or you can continue to be the one that's whining.

1kreationz40
12-04-2007, 06:06 PM
For someone that talks about curing ignorance and tolerating morons, you sure do a lot of hating when you find out you were wrong. And then you bring his mom into it! Grow up and go back to the EG forums plz.


Thanks.....:goodjob:

1kreationz40
12-04-2007, 06:07 PM
Well I read the part where you were wrong, and then I read the part where you were corrected, and then I read the part where you launched an hour-long spiel of personal attacks because you were tired of being corrected. Being called white is hardly an insult, unless you don't accept it of course.

You can let it be, or you can continue to be the one that's whining.


Thanks Again....!

Grimm Reeper
12-04-2007, 06:15 PM
Well I read the part where you were wrong, and then I read the part where you were corrected, and then I read the part where you launched an hour-long spiel of personal attacks because you were tired of being corrected. Being called white is hardly an insult, unless you don't accept it of course.

[No Comment to the bold statement]

You can let it be, or you can continue to be the one that's whining.

bwhahahahahahaha

and again bwhahahahahahahahaha


I'm pretty sure that I read the same things you have and accepted the input

for the fact that you came in at the last moment giving your :2cents: about what was right and me being wrong I'm not debating, but reading your previous statement "Grow up and go back to the EG forums plz" was quite a site to behold......... I thank you for what hospitality that you've shown thus far and would like to ask for you be grown and worry about yourself and let everyone type their own battles. Thank you:goodjob:

1kreationz40
12-04-2007, 06:20 PM
CLOSE THIS THREAD PLZZZZ......****z be buggin me out yo....lol......Lets not write no more....U WIN OKAY DAMMN.......lol

jfrolang
12-04-2007, 06:25 PM
You can laugh, but that's about the only thing I saw that provoked you to become Mr. Mean. If you're saying you're not responding to that with your attacks, you are instead demonstrating that you are insecure with being wrong and felt the need to put down others to get yourself back up. You still need to grow up, and this is still the EF Squad Forum.

1kreationz40
12-04-2007, 06:30 PM
i feel the same way......+ +

Grimm Reeper
12-04-2007, 06:48 PM
You can laugh, but that's about the only thing I saw that provoked you to become Mr. Mean. If you're saying you're not responding to that with your attacks, you are instead demonstrating that you are insecure with being wrong and felt the need to put down others to get yourself back up. You still need to grow up, and this is still the EF Squad Forum.


Insecure is such a strong word in this sentence, lets take to a scientific standpoint: for ever action there is an equal reaction. If you read, which I'm sure you have since you like to throw it up in my face. I had not commented on anything else in this thread until you amongst others had some strong feelings about what I've said yesterday and today which I'm not mad about because they say that this is a free country and this is the internet, anything and everything goes. I'm having funny believe it or not. I don't have a problem with being wrong, I'm human not GOD, so that's impossible for me to even think that I could never be wrong. True this is the EF Squad, so does that mean that since I don't have the same car that I'm not allowed to socilize with people who I met or had a chance to converse with in here. Or that you are in fact the great creator of IA and says ef with ef whites with whites or blacks with blacks. I never recall seeing an EF ONLY banner out in the local section.

JDMJAYDC2
12-04-2007, 07:19 PM
wow this is so not where i left this thread at yesterday??? where is ben, dare, and alan to lighten this back up????

lsxtreme
12-04-2007, 08:44 PM
WHOA

EvasiveEF9
12-05-2007, 12:41 AM
I saw it start going down the ****-can, and I went "LoL, out of my league..."

bigdare23
12-05-2007, 01:01 AM
{shakes head}