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redrumracer
11-28-2007, 10:39 PM
so how many of you guys have them if you dont want to say publicly thats fine but please vote at least. id like some opinions on them. :goodjob:

Thighs
11-28-2007, 11:04 PM
were winning... :goodjob:

David88vert
11-29-2007, 06:15 AM
I don't have one now, but have driven a few cars with them. Good strong motor if built correctly.

hydroshutter
11-29-2007, 07:05 AM
Old technology in my opinion. The new "in" is a 402/408 and above just from what I've seen.

Si_freak
12-01-2007, 10:50 PM
a friend of mine is putting a 383 in his miata. already got it in and mounted up working on putting the rest together. should be sick

khan351
12-07-2007, 12:21 AM
Old technology in my opinion. The new "in" is a 402/408 and above just from what I've seen.

x2

SicStang03
12-07-2007, 12:28 AM
don't waste you time and money on a stroker...

secondgencamaro
12-07-2007, 12:37 AM
If you get a 350 block and are planning on rebuilding it, no reason not to go bigger. Any particular reason why you're asking?

redrumracer
12-07-2007, 12:43 AM
If you get a 350 block and are planning on rebuilding it, no reason not to go bigger. Any particular reason why you're asking?

i plan on building one and putting it in my rx

hydroshutter
12-07-2007, 07:11 AM
don't waste you time and money on a stroker...

I have to disagree on this one. A stroker is exactly what I was looking for whenever I wanted to do a motor for my Vette.

on 3
12-07-2007, 07:16 AM
I heard there is a blue Z28 on the site that has one?

hydroshutter
12-07-2007, 07:20 AM
I heard there is a blue Z28 on the site that has one?

Yours? :D

GangstaCoupe
12-07-2007, 06:07 PM
If it will fit, $ per hp big block hands down.

on 3
12-07-2007, 06:34 PM
Yours? :D



:ninja: :locked: lol

sirkus
12-09-2007, 11:31 PM
Do an LS1 swap... stock parts you'll be doing fine. I was thinking about finding an 87-91 FC with a blown motor and doing a swap. Some places offer kit's for everything. Go with newer technology.

redrumracer
12-10-2007, 01:22 AM
Do an LS1 swap... stock parts you'll be doing fine. I was thinking about finding an 87-91 FC with a blown motor and doing a swap. Some places offer kit's for everything. Go with newer technology.


yea i thought about that but i wanna build it though. plus you can find gen I sbc for next to nothin now-a-days

ftp
12-10-2007, 01:30 AM
383 is a GREAT street motor. With the extra stroke it promotes low end torque.Its what i got in my 78 truck(check the intro page for a pic) I have built 4 of em. The one I currently have dynoed at 432 rwhp and 486 fptq. I still get 14 miles a gallon with a 700r4 tranny and a 3.08 rear gear and it is dead reliable, as in I have driven it to west palm beach,fla and back several times

Tracer
12-10-2007, 09:11 PM
don't waste you time and money on a stroker...

Best advice I've heard this year.

hydroshutter
12-10-2007, 09:23 PM
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Retro
12-10-2007, 09:35 PM
http://i18.tinypic.com/85ypp8m.png

agreed....lol

SicStang03
12-10-2007, 09:36 PM
http://i18.tinypic.com/85ypp8m.png



LOL:lmfao::lmfao::lmfao:....

Seriously though... I wouldn't waste my money on a stroker... JMO

P.S. everytime I see a vette I want to sell mine and get one:yes:..... :ninja:

Catnip
12-10-2007, 09:45 PM
My dad was running 9.4 on a light shot of nitrous and stock suspension with his 383'ed camaro. The car would scrape the back bumper with it, currently in a friends car, it now has a 540 though.

They're good motors, just don't accidentally put the nitrous pills on the fuel side and vice versa. Seems to crush pistons and crack blocks.

Just saying, lol.

Curmudgeon
12-11-2007, 08:34 PM
LOL yeah.... don't waste your time/money on a stroker.
~500rwtq@3600 rpm ON MOTOR sux.
bLOWIN' the tires OFF at ~70mph sux.
That kind of rwhp/tq. ON MOTOR in a little itty bitty car would sux.
NOT.

I say go for it. Old school technolgy has it's benifits.
Cam/gear it right and maintain absolute docile street maners/mpg.
True story.

Roadster
12-15-2007, 07:12 PM
LOL yeah.... don't waste your time/money on a stroker.
~500rwtq@3600 rpm ON MOTOR sux.
bLOWIN' the tires OFF at ~70mph sux.
That kind of rwhp/tq. ON MOTOR in a little itty bitty car would sux.
NOT.

I say go for it. Old school technolgy has it's benifits.
Cam/gear it right and maintain absolute docile street maners/mpg.
True story.

+1 for you for not being a dumbass. When any of the guys on here are making 900hp, 900ft lbs. all motor on pump gas, without nitrous, they can start bashing strokers. Most of what we build at the shop are Ford big blocks, all of them strokers, all of them carbureted. Yes, it gets expensive, but big power + reliability has never been cheap. Throw some boost and/or nitrous at your car and see how often you'll have to rebuild it, esp. a low displacement 4 banger going for big numbers. Whereas, if you make relatively big numbers out of big displacement, you're not taxing your engine much. There really is no reliable replacement for displacement.


And like you said, that kind of power in a tiny car that handles and stops would be monstrous.

As such, I got a built aluminum headed, 4 bolt 383 with a Turbo 350 behind it that's going into my E30 in the next few weeks. 500hp, 2300lbs. :)

Curmudgeon
12-15-2007, 09:38 PM
built aluminum headed, 4 bolt 383 with a Turbo 350 behind it that's going into my E30 in the next few weeks. 500hp, 2300lbs. :)

Fuk me to tears. THAT ^ should be a hoot-

_Christian_
12-15-2007, 09:45 PM
Seriously though... I wouldn't waste my money on a stroker...

any reason in particular :thinking:

Roadster
12-15-2007, 10:12 PM
Fuk me to tears. THAT ^ should be a hoot-

It's going to be completely useless with that much power, lol. We're putting the engine on the dyno at work this week to find out what it actually makes at the crank. But through conservative estimates based on compression, cam and the like...it should be damn close to 500hp.

Wicked looking Firebird, btw.

StupidBikerBoy
12-16-2007, 12:24 AM
LS1 383's are great. Thats the limit on the aluminum LS1's without sleeving. Stump pullers!:goodjob:

Curmudgeon
12-16-2007, 06:29 PM
Yup they are. Best bang for the buck out there IMHO.
Running an L92 cased 416" stroker(4.068" bore/4.0" stroke)in my heap..... made 550rwhp/505rwtq on motor.... BIG hp/tq down low and only need to spin it to a nice safe 6600....

My pile is still pretty heavy and kicks like a pissed off hooker.... can't even imagine how the same curve would feel in a sub 2800# car. Only 775lbs. more to get rid of and go 9.3x's on motor? LOL-

SicStang03
12-16-2007, 06:55 PM
any reason in particular :thinking:

If you just want to go to a 383 stroker, go ahaed. When you eventually go with a bigger bore, you will need to throw more money at the engine to keep it breathing. Depends on what you plan on doing with the car really.

Answer: BUDGET




LOL yeah.... don't waste your time/money on a stroker.
~500rwtq@3600 rpm ON MOTOR sux.
bLOWIN' the tires OFF at ~70mph sux.
That kind of rwhp/tq. ON MOTOR in a little itty bitty car would sux.
NOT.

I say go for it. Old school technolgy has it's benifits.
Cam/gear it right and maintain absolute docile street maners/mpg.
True story.

You have a nice setup and true, you hit your max tq early but you also drop off higher up which is where you spend a lot of time when drag racing. The tq will get you out of the whole quick, especially with those fat slicks but you need power up top too. You have a 10.08 at 133. Obviously your 1/8 is insane but your trap is still a little lower with that 1/4.

I hit 500rwtq before 3600 and it holds longs that a strocker. I also have hp up top.

This is just my opinion. If you plan on building a drag car a spraying the **** out of it that go with a stroker. Personally I wouldn't though. I would rather save money and just cam it and spray it

Curmudgeon
12-16-2007, 09:17 PM
Yes the big tq. down low is helping to get the tank moving(which is what I targeted), and yes, in an all out drag race/track car, I'd want my power band to be a little taller. That could easily be (re-)achieved w/an intake swap(back to the Vic jr.)and cam swap better suited for higher revs but in fact, this is not an all out track car. I drive it.... so my power currve fits the bill. Decent(enough)at the track, and good fun on the street.

You are correct in that my power curve begins to flatten out early(around 6400), although, my trap is a function of the rear gear I'm using(4:10), and not lack of power up top(as is indicated by a 23 mph gain through the lights in the back half). Swap it out for a 3:73 and watch the mph sky rocket.....

FWIW, I'll be swapping out the gear for something more suited to the kits as it's already almost too much gear on motor(unless I decide to just do 1/8 mile bottle passes).

Not here to argue the symantics of why one is better than another.... just offering my personal experience/views-

Have a great week!-

SicStang03
12-18-2007, 02:20 PM
Yes the big tq. down low is helping to get the tank moving(which is what I targeted), and yes, in an all out drag race/track car, I'd want my power band to be a little taller. That could easily be (re-)achieved w/an intake swap(back to the Vic jr.)and cam swap better suited for higher revs but in fact, this is not an all out track car. I drive it.... so my power currve fits the bill. Decent(enough)at the track, and good fun on the street.

You are correct in that my power curve begins to flatten out early(around 6400), although, my trap is a function of the rear gear I'm using(4:10), and not lack of power up top(as is indicated by a 23 mph gain through the lights in the back half). Swap it out for a 3:73 and watch the mph sky rocket.....

FWIW, I'll be swapping out the gear for something more suited to the kits as it's already almost too much gear on motor(unless I decide to just do 1/8 mile bottle passes).

Not here to argue the symantics of why one is better than another.... just offering my personal experience/views-

Have a great week!-



Oh ya, I meant to ask you want gears you were running. Ya, 3.73's would help a little. They would also be a little better for the street when you cruise around.

Init2winit
12-21-2007, 07:07 AM
If you just want to go to a 383 stroker, go ahaed. When you eventually go with a bigger bore, you will need to throw more money at the engine to keep it breathing. Depends on what you plan on doing with the car really.

Answer: BUDGET





You have a nice setup and true, you hit your max tq early but you also drop off higher up which is where you spend a lot of time when drag racing. The tq will get you out of the whole quick, especially with those fat slicks but you need power up top too. You have a 10.08 at 133. Obviously your 1/8 is insane but your trap is still a little lower with that 1/4.

I hit 500rwtq before 3600 and it holds longs that a strocker. I also have hp up top.

This is just my opinion. If you plan on building a drag car a spraying the **** out of it that go with a stroker. Personally I wouldn't though. I would rather save money and just cam it and spray itYou can build a 383 with STOCK chevrolet parts. That is why they are so popular to build, because they cost next to nothing to build one, and still have a nice streetable engine at the same time.

Init2winit
12-21-2007, 07:14 AM
Here is an all motor, pump gas "stroker" engine that I built. It has a very mild camshaft (.574 lift), and is very streetable. This was on a chassis dyno in front of an automatic, so figure about 15-20% drivetrain loss. It was having some carb troubles on the baseline, but you clearly see the end result. Also, look at how flat the hp, and tq curves are. The peak power was made at around 3500 rpm. This engine put up against one that makes the same power at higher rpms will run circles around it, for obvious reasons. 555hp/490tq

http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d35/ERoycroft/IMGA0001.jpg

TopSpeedInc
12-21-2007, 08:42 AM
Back in the day I ran a ran a 383 with the linginfelter intake and 150shot of nos on my 92 camaro.

Stol3n
01-31-2008, 08:19 PM
i have to disagree with most on this one. me and my dad built a 383 stroker and put it in a 1990 mustang coupe. for the $$ this is the baddest motor to build up. our coupe was INSANE. we had to run beadlocks because the car had soo much torque the wheels would spin inside the tires. did i mention it would annhiliate the tires at 75+mph. :bump:

jew_boy
04-27-2008, 09:08 PM
if your goin for a drag car then do the 383 but if you going for weekend car i wouldnt go with it just my opinion

this is what ive heard dont know for sure but i heard that most stroker motors got to be rebuilt like every 20,000 miles to keep them up

OneSlow5pt0
04-27-2008, 09:24 PM
zombie thread

but for the sake,if u had to swap a V8 into a FC,deff go with a LS1 because of weight

Repiks
09-06-2009, 04:02 PM
It's an old thread, but...

My dad and I have a built 402 already made to run with a 100 horse sniper NOS (haha, an actual proper usuage of the word nawz) but we have nothing to put it in.

Very frustrating.

NoRotor
09-07-2009, 06:47 PM
It's an old thread, but...

My dad and I have a built 402 already made to run with a 100 horse sniper NOS (haha, an actual proper usuage of the word nawz) but we have nothing to put it in.

Very frustrating.

I'll trade you motors, straight up.

Repiks
09-08-2009, 08:55 PM
Haha, probably not, but whatcha got?

cpearson
09-23-2009, 05:46 PM
don't have one, but i'd like to.

oleblue
09-28-2009, 01:23 PM
I have some friends that has had them and they all were around 400hp all motor. They seemed to feel good down low but you could feel them loose up top. For the money you cant much go wrong. I have heard they are easy to blow though, that's just what i've been told. My step dad has had them and everytime he missed a gear, he blowed his.

Incontt
10-07-2009, 05:21 AM
is this for real? oh noes I better sell my 408 stroker along with tons of other chevy/ford guys. Lynch...stroker...Titan...stroker....this thread is full of fail

CHADbee
01-09-2010, 11:40 PM
i like to stroke my penis....does that count?