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Whiteboy™
11-27-2007, 06:16 PM
Two of the Navy's top admirals said Tuesday that China's refusal to permit a U.S. aircraft carrier to make a Thanksgiving port call at Hong Kong was surprising and troubling.

"This is perplexing. It's not helpful," Adm. Timothy Keating, commander of U.S. Pacific Command, told reporters in a videoteleconference from his headquarters at Camp Smith, Hawaii (http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,313244,00.html#).

"It's not, in our view, conduct that is indicative of a country that understands its obligations as a responsible nation," he said, adding that he hopes it does not indicate a lasting blockage of port visits.

The USS Kitty Hawk, which has its home port near Tokyo, was forced to return early to Japan when Chinese authorities at the last minute refused to let the warship and its escort vessels enter Hong Kong (http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,313244,00.html#) harbor.

Keating said that by the time the Chinese acted, hundreds of family members of sailors aboard the Kitty Hawk had already flown to Hong Kong from their homes in Japan to join in the port visit.

Asked about seeking an explanation from the Chinese, Keating said he had heard nothing from Chinese military authorities and that it would be a matter for the State Department (http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,313244,00.html#) to pursue. He said he did not expect the Chinese to apologize.

In separate remarks at the Pentagon (http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,313244,00.html#), Adm. Gary Roughead, in his first Pentagon interview since becoming the chief of naval operations eight weeks ago, described the Chinese action as disruptive.

"That was surprising and not helpful," Roughead said. "The Kitty Hawk had been planning to go in there and it was disruptive to many people's plans."

Roughead, who was commander of U.S. naval forces in the Pacific before he replaced Adm. Mike Mullen as chief of naval operations on Sept. 29, said he was even more troubled by China's (http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,313244,00.html#) refusal to let two U.S. Navy minesweepers enter Hong Kong harbor to escape an approaching storm and receive fuel. The minesweepers, the Patriot and the Guardian, were instead refueled at sea and returned safely to their home port in Japan, he said.

"As someone who has been going to sea all my life, if there is one tenet that we observe it's when somebody is in need you provide (assistance) and you sort it out later," the admiral said. "And that, to me, was more bothersome, so I look forward to having discussions with the PLA navy leadership," he said, referring to the People's Liberation Army.

Keating made a similar point. He called the denial in the case of the minesweeping ships "a different kettle of fish for us — in some ways more disturbing, more perplexing" than the Kitty Hawk case because the Chinese action violated an unwritten international code for assisting ships in distress.

Keating said he still plans to visit China in mid-January to discuss, among other things, ways to strengthen U.S.-China military relations.

Roughead said China's actions would not stop the U.S. Navy from seeking future port visits to Hong Kong.

"Hong Kong remains a very welcoming place for our sailors to be when they get there and it remains one of the world's great cities where sailors for centuries have gone, and it's still part of the draw of why young men and women choose to do what we do. It will remain a port of interest," he said.





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Alan®
11-27-2007, 06:21 PM
man i dont like this first they sneak up on us in the pacific and now this something doesnt smell right

Whiteboy™
11-27-2007, 06:23 PM
man i dont like this first they sneak up on us in the pacific and now this something doesnt smell right

i know, right :no:

HalfBaked
11-27-2007, 06:23 PM
Maybe the US shouldn't have assumed that they were going to let us in...that would have avoided people having mixed up plans.

The Ninja
11-27-2007, 06:25 PM
^^ Troof

Lolol China is going to start heaving its weight around and bullying the U.S. the same way the U.S. has bullied many other countries. All I ask is that they give me 5 more years so I can GTFO.

The Ninja
11-27-2007, 06:27 PM
HEY....that thread that chick just made got deleted.

Whiteboy™
11-27-2007, 06:28 PM
i noticed that too, lol

here is a picture of her:

http://a126.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/12/l_91abdb9c0867808833e4c6989bf4cafd.jpg

The Ninja
11-27-2007, 06:38 PM
Oh my god.......


I honestly gagged a little. I requested pics of....her breasts.... :cry:

Whiteboy™
11-27-2007, 06:39 PM
your probably don't wanna see those either

The Ninja
11-27-2007, 06:42 PM
Yes...I realize that now....

"B"
11-27-2007, 07:04 PM
Interesting.

Crazy Asian
11-27-2007, 07:30 PM
China is getting to a point where they think there the top dog. I cant wait till the US starts to shove back and make them bark lil ****s

JITB
11-27-2007, 07:48 PM
man the us is losing its super power over everyone....the smaller the us dollar value is the less power the US has. people get tired of the Us ****in with everyone all the time. and like the guy said up above.. they shouldnt have made plans without confriming.

TIGERJC
11-27-2007, 08:02 PM
China is getting to a point where they think there the top dog. I cant wait till the US starts to shove back and make them bark lil ****s
I hope it never gets to that point.

I dont see a problem with it, it is china's land and they can do what ever they please. I know the U.S. would have no problem doing the samething either

tony
11-27-2007, 08:30 PM
Lets not be stupid now, China has one of the largest (if not the largest) military in the world, with our resources stretched to Iraq would the U.S really try to push its weight around with China?

Matt (halfbaked) hit the nail on the head, who are we to assume or expect aid from them?

The falling value of the U.S dollar will bring back jobs to the U.S, as long as inflation does not get out of hand a less valuable dollar isn't always a bad thing.

Jecht
11-27-2007, 08:47 PM
Yay for the stupid beginnings of World War 3!


Just like D-Ninja, give me a few years to GTFO and go find myself a place to live that isn't going to be destroyed/nuked/attacked/etc.

ueyedgr8tness
11-27-2007, 08:50 PM
Yay for the stupid beginnings of World War 3!


Just like D-Ninja, give me a few years to GTFO and go find myself a place to live that isn't going to be destroyed/nuked/attacked/etc.


werd:goodjob:

RedEj8
11-27-2007, 09:33 PM
Maybe China should help us out a little because umm..we're their biggest customer. Of course i think we owe them like billions of $$ or maybe they just have a lot of money invested in the U.S. We still own.

Meso Teggy
11-28-2007, 06:42 AM
^^ Troof

Lolol China is going to start heaving its weight around and bullying the U.S. the same way the U.S. has bullied many other countries. All I ask is that they give me 5 more years so I can GTFO.


x2

civic95
11-28-2007, 07:45 AM
Well we depend on them now. They manufacture everything. Thousands of items are no longer made here, and only available from china. Even if we started making them again we would not be able to afford them because of our cost of labor is 100x more than theirs. So go ahead and say **** china, cause we would be in a world of hurt without them.

But the same is true for them. We are the largest importer of their goods. If we stopped buying from them, they would feel it. But that's never going to happen, and they know it. Because we can't afford to pay US workers to manufacture items, and price the item at a point to make a profit.

This is nothing but political games they are playing. Probably in response to the lead in toys discovery. They do things like this all the time. When we banned the import of some of their seafood, they banned the import of some of our poultry into their country. They like to trade punches to make a point.

nreggie454
11-28-2007, 07:49 AM
Lets not be stupid now, China has one of the largest (if not the largest) military in the world, with our resources stretched to Iraq would the U.S really try to push its weight around with China?

Matt (halfbaked) hit the nail on the head, who are we to assume or expect aid from them?

The falling value of the U.S dollar will bring back jobs to the U.S, as long as inflation does not get out of hand a less valuable dollar isn't always a bad thing.

China might have a bigger army, but I bet that we could mobilize a much bigger force than they could in a short amount of time.

I kinda think that China might have a couple of its super-secret megastealth subs in that harbor and don't want anybody peeking around. It really wouldn't surprise me if there happened to be a couple guys on the Kitty Hawk who might have wanted to take a quick gander at them without the Chinese knowing.

Also, I just talked with this guy who read a couple books on the whole WW3 issue, and a lot of them predict that if one country's currency (or the Euro) raises significantly higher than other nation's currencies (or one drops a lot), the little guys might get jealous and start launching missiles. Next, everybody puts all of their missiles in the air against everybody else, and after that, say goodbye global warming and hello nuclear winter.

1000cckiller
11-28-2007, 08:01 AM
ewwww ya'll had a lard ass post a pic. I should neg rep all who requested that.