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aemkitfox
11-23-2007, 01:06 AM
If anyone is online now with any helpful info respond with haste please.
Best Buy has got a deal on a canon DSLR 8 megapixel thing, rebel xt i think. I've never had a nice camera but I'm thinking I might should go pick one up in a few hours here. Their price on it is like $699.
Is this a good camera?
Justin.
11-23-2007, 01:14 AM
Does it come with a lens or just the body? If it has a lens then your on the right track, If you new to the DSLR world, it's more camera then you need, but also a great one to start out on and learn and keep learning...great shots come from skill and great len's.
changaroo
11-23-2007, 01:18 AM
the xt is being phased out, soon to be obsolete.
still a great camera, but i've seen better deals. my buddy picked a brand new one up for 599 i believe at a sears when they had a sale.
buy if you must, but if you shop around im sure u can spend your money better.
aemkitfox
11-23-2007, 01:42 AM
Yeah, I am just looking for something to light a fire under me in the photography world. I haven'y really felt the love yet wheni'm stuck at the mercy of digicams.
This thing comes with an 18-55mm zoom lens.
87 Turbo II
11-23-2007, 02:39 PM
Take one without a lens for as little as $450 and then get your own lens. Like a Canon 50mm 1.8 lens (no zoom) for $75 as well as a 1 or 2 GB CF card.. Learn the camera and lens, ask yourself what you need then buy lenses from there. I started with an XT too.
SL33P3R
11-23-2007, 03:30 PM
Ive heard good things about the Rebel
Im getting a Nikon D40 for Xmas!
Brady
11-23-2007, 03:57 PM
lawls.
A.P. Photography
11-23-2007, 08:04 PM
lawls.
I know right.
DSLR's are the new Civic's. Everybody has one or wants one. Remember, the body is the cheapest part of the set up. The real money spent is going to be in lenses, trust me!
sleepys4
11-26-2007, 01:26 PM
for the same price you can look around on the internet and they have xti kits from $650
aaronfelipe
11-26-2007, 01:30 PM
Get the 40D for 1499. Worth the upgrade in the lens and body. If you want to stay lower, stick with an Rebel XTI.
Brady
11-26-2007, 03:31 PM
dude it really really really doesnt matter about the body. Stay with canon or nikon as both make wonderful glass. You should be way more concerned about which lens to buy rather than which body to buy....bodies are throw away and expect to upgrade/change/replace every 2 years if you get serious about photos.
speedminded
11-26-2007, 04:36 PM
I'd suggest the XTI over the XT if you want Canon: the controls & functions are easier to use, larger LCD screen, etc. The 17-55 kit lens is trash, it does an ok job but is really soft and horrible in lower light situations. I'd look at getting a body only XTI then some sort of constant F/2.8 short zoom lens for $200-300, either Canon or Sigma. (Someone mentioned the $75 50mm F/1.8 too...no zoom but its one of the most useful lenses you can own.) *my 2 pixels*
§treet_§peed
11-26-2007, 05:14 PM
i'm with jason on that one... altho te D40 tends to be a good begginner camera most people think that they are pros soon as they take their first pic with one.. but they are not also i have hear alot of things bad about the d40 from reliable sources that work at camera store
Brady
11-26-2007, 05:59 PM
i'm with jason on that one... altho te D40 tends to be a good begginner camera most people think that they are pros soon as they take their first pic with one.. but they are not also i have hear alot of things bad about the d40 from reliable sources that work at camera store
care to share the bad things?
§treet_§peed
11-26-2007, 06:07 PM
let me get my friend to type it up for me and i will post asap.. :goodjob:
jennnay
11-27-2007, 07:44 PM
working in a camera repair facility.. alot of the time it's not the body that has the issue. Especially for the nikon af-s 18-55 that comes in the kit or the 18-70. We constantly hav e customers coming in saying their camera's throwing an err99 message and it' s because the lens won't auto focus so we have to send them to nikon for adjustment.
honestly, we don't get as many canon products as nikon products. =/
and i do see alot of d40s and d80s coming in for repair under warranty
but yeah. i'd definitely recommend the digital rebel xti as a starter =)
§treet_§peed
11-28-2007, 06:08 PM
well the pros are that it's a pretty decent camera that's relatively easy to use and the optics are pretty good.
The cons are that it's a cheap plastic piece of **** and it will break if you sneeze at it wrong.
that's the worst I've noticed so far. So many of them come back for repair constantly. he is talking about the d40
crash331
11-29-2007, 01:12 AM
Don't expect to drop $600 on a dSLR with a crappy kit lens and then get magazine quality photos. If you know nothing about photography and are going to be shooting in automatic mode, just get a point and shoot. You won't notice quality that much better than a P&S using the kit lens, anyway. Now if you aren't afraid to spend some cash and plan on upgrading glass later, like the Canon 70-200 f/2.8 (around $1000) or the 70-200 f/4 (around $600) then go ahead and get the XT or XTi. Both are decent starter bodies. I used the XT for a couple of years, but upgraded it for a 20d.
kennyboi
11-29-2007, 09:51 AM
I got the rebel XTI 10.1mp and i'm still learning to shot
with it. it came with the 18-55mm lens but i'm getting ready
to get the Canon telephoto zoom lens 75mm - 300mm
Nemesis
11-29-2007, 10:13 AM
I know right.
DSLR's are the new Civic's. Everybody has one or wants one. Remember, the body is the cheapest part of the set up. The real money spent is going to be in lenses, trust me!
Be prepared for the endless amounts of "Photoshoot" threads LOL
Nemesis
11-29-2007, 10:14 AM
working in a camera repair facility.. alot of the time it's not the body that has the issue. Especially for the nikon af-s 18-55 that comes in the kit or the 18-70. We constantly hav e customers coming in saying their camera's throwing an err99 message and it' s because the lens won't auto focus so we have to send them to nikon for adjustment.
honestly, we don't get as many canon products as nikon products. =/
and i do see alot of d40s and d80s coming in for repair under warranty
but yeah. i'd definitely recommend the digital rebel xti as a starter =)
People dont take care of their equipment, a lot of times its as simple as that. Ive had three Nikon Cameras, and used a few other point and shoots and never once had an issue.
DeutscheBAG!
11-29-2007, 11:02 AM
Be prepared for the endless amounts of "Photoshoot" threads LOL
even worse when they warn you, that they took em with a cellphone camera.
DrivenMind
11-29-2007, 12:13 PM
Take one without a lens for as little as $450 and then get your own lens. Like a Canon 50mm 1.8 lens (no zoom) for $75 as well as a 1 or 2 GB CF card.. Learn the camera and lens, ask yourself what you need then buy lenses from there. I started with an XT too.
I don't know if that's the best advice. Leaving him stuck with a fixed focal length lens isn't going to let him explore as freely as he could with the kit lens, and the ultra wide aperture will make things difficult for focusing manually, and we all know how slow the auto focus is on that lens .
The Rebel is a good little camera to learn the basics on, and it can take a real beating. I've taken well over 200,000+ photos on mine, and it's still kicking.
Just carry the book around with you when you go out places, and check out different chapters that will let you try different things. Leave it in M mode, and try to figure it out, and within a month or two you should be nailing your exposures.
speedminded
11-29-2007, 01:15 PM
I don't know if that's the best advice. Leaving him stuck with a fixed focal length lens isn't going to let him explore as freely as he could with the kit lens, and the ultra wide aperture will make things difficult for focusing manually, and we all know how slow the auto focus is on that lens .
The Rebel is a good little camera to learn the basics on, and it can take a real beating. I've taken well over 200,000+ photos on mine, and it's still kicking.
Just carry the book around with you when you go out places, and check out different chapters that will let you try different things. Leave it in M mode, and try to figure it out, and within a month or two you should be nailing your exposures.The 50mm F/1.8 is slow?!! :thinking: That lens is sharpest at F/2.8 though...which is still a stop lower than the kit lens wide open. The 50mm can be an awkward focal length at times but by far the best bang for the buck for sharp portraits and it's decent at lower light situations...
87 Turbo II
11-29-2007, 03:38 PM
The Rebel is a good little camera to learn the basics on, and it can take a real beating. I've taken well over 200,000+ photos on mine, and it's still kicking.
I'm gonig to call B/S because the shutter life on a Rebel of any make to date is 30,000 to 50,000 shots(some make it to as high as 70,000-ish) unless you've gone through 4 shutters.
as for the other stuff, I think the 50 1:1.8 II would be a great start. I used mine for a solid 2 months after I got it (it was my first non kit lens) and it only showed its limitations in small rooms. Every time I would put the kit lens on for something, then switched to the 50 later, it would always feel SOO much better making me wish I had saved the $100 on the kit(I sold it with my rebel when I bought a 20D and had the 50 for another solid 2 months but now I have the Mark I version and a 28-70 1:3.5-4.5). I'm just ACTUALLY saving him from that "why did I even get the kit lens" feeling. Also starting with a lens with one focal length, helps decide the next lens better. Need to see farther away? go greater than 50mm, need to capture more stuff without backing up so much? get something less than 50. Also you can stop the 50mm down and use it on Av mode "trapped" in an aperture setting to get a feel for a lens you might be looking at with that value as its max aperture, what would you do when you had a zoom and wanted to know what the aperture would be like if your next lens had a greater one than your current one?
Also if you're reccomending the kit lens then get one off of Craigslist for like $45 and save $60. Get the 50 1:1.8 AND the EF-S 18-55 1:3.5-5.6 used for a total of $130 plus the body price on a Rebel XT.
Nemesis
11-29-2007, 03:43 PM
I hope this fad dies down :(
speedminded
11-29-2007, 03:49 PM
I hope this fad dies down :(lol, not gonna happen. I don't care though...i'll challenge just about anyone with a 5.8mp point & shoot to 90% of the people with DSLR's. Most people are gonna get bored with it anyways and the camera's gonna sit in the bag. Marketing is the number #1 key to making it successful anyways.
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