View Full Version : Hood Pins??
CraigMW
11-12-2007, 03:25 PM
Whats everybody! I just purchased a Carbon Fiber hood to go on my 00 civic Si... what i was wondering is... are hood pins neccessary? If so... what type do i go with? Just wondering because a friend of mine has a CF hood on his car with no pins and said that he has waves under the clear-coat from the wind blowing it! Thanks alot!
-Craig-
Hulud
11-12-2007, 03:29 PM
waves under the clearcoat?
the only thing that hoodpins will do is to make sure your hood wont fly up on you (which happens from time to time with cf hoods)
xlilvi3tx
11-13-2007, 10:10 AM
depends on what brand of cf hood u buy as well too. seibon and vis doesnt need hood pins and are usually best fit, just a little adjusting on the hood latch and hinges and you're good to go. but like hulud said hoodpins are just to make sure your hood doesnt fly open and imo they are ugly as sh*t. and one other thing, when u put on the hood, align the holes up and dont force fit it in kuz u dont wanna strip the fiberglass thread in the hood.
what do u mean waves under the clear coat?
scttydb411
11-13-2007, 10:56 AM
actually you do need hood pins on vis. they actually recommend it. even though they have a good latch and you could get away with it for a while, at speeds above 50 the front corners start to flex up because of wind...and when a semi-trailer passes you on a two lane it does it even more. after a few years of this it will fatigue and crack.
killerdx
11-13-2007, 01:46 PM
never had problems with mine, no hood pins and its vis,just make sure its on there right and u shouldnt have any worries
Nittanys1
11-13-2007, 01:47 PM
I have some hood pins that I was going to use for my hood but I havent ever put them on. I'll sell them to you for less then what I paid for them if your interested in them. LMK
cdhtang
11-13-2007, 04:30 PM
hood pin are suggested on the cf hood, even it is name brand. I had my vis without hood pin, it seems to be fine, but i think it would be better to put them on. You never want it to flip.
scttydb411
11-13-2007, 09:35 PM
never had problems with mine, no hood pins and its vis,just make sure its on there right and u shouldnt have any worries
i rolled for about 4 years w/o, but vis puts a disclaimer and cf will eventually fatigue after flexing. i've seen it happen on a properly installed hood. i just decided to not keep tempting fate.
chituntang
11-14-2007, 02:07 AM
Just something to make it safer.
xlilvi3tx
11-14-2007, 07:28 AM
Just something to make it safer.
x2
i have a seibon hood and i drive to alabama all the time, never failed me YET lol
vrt eggroll
11-14-2007, 08:34 AM
I had a seibon also and never needed them. I did a ton of highway driving.
AnthonyF
11-14-2007, 08:46 AM
waves under the clearcoat?
the only thing that hoodpins will do is to make sure your hood wont fly up on you (which happens from time to time with cf hoods)
it still happens to dumbasses who install hoodpins incorrectly.
I'm running hoodpins but I also left my normal hood latch. Which is wise but also goofy. You could remove your hood latch and run the hood pins but then your down to just one device holding your hood on.
now what you could do is install 4 hood pins. 2 up front, 2 in the back. so if you need to work on your car, you could remove your entire hood. would look bad ass also!
CraigMW
11-15-2007, 06:17 PM
ok! thank all yall for yalls help! sorry it took so long to reply... cant get around to getting online that much! i think im just gonna go without for a while and see how it turns out! I really appreciate the advice! Yall take it easy!
And your friend didn't get waves from the wind, he got waves b/c he bought a hand-laid wet layup hood. If your hood weighs more than ~25lbs, pins are probably optional. If you had a dry carbon hood coming in around 12lbs, you def need pins. Most hoods just have the latch held onto the rest of the hood with a bunch of fiberglass, which is kinda like trying to glue a sail onto a boat: it ain't gonna hold when the wind blows hard enough. If you have a hood with just one layer of cf over fiberglass, its probably going to be heavy enough to offset the pressure difference that tries to lift the hood off. But you can see it fighting if you watch at high speeds, so play at your own risk without a net.
bigjacsoc
11-18-2007, 03:58 AM
id throw some sparco pins on it just to add a nice race look and because theres no guaruntee with any hood, all it takes is one maufacturer defect making it 1 mm off and things can go really wrong so just do it for the safety and the looks.
allmotoronly
11-18-2007, 11:45 AM
I've had a few seibon hoods, including one of the original pre-production seibon BB6 prelude hoods that was hand laid. I did not use hood pins, and I had that car to 150mph with no problems.
My point is, if you go with a good brand, I wouldn't worry about the pins. If you go with an eBay special, I would highly recommend the pins.
B_Hoov
11-26-2007, 04:44 PM
i have hood locks to put on mine, i can see my hood bouncing occasionally, mine is a VIS as well, what should i drill the holes out with to get good results? i heard a step bit works well??? i have an array of them but don't want to go drilling until i confirm this...
scttydb411
11-26-2007, 08:04 PM
mask the surface with masking tape to help prevent cracks. do not apply heavy pressure...let the bit to the work. use a decent size bit and then enlarge the hole with a dremel and grinding/sanding wheel.
SPOOLIN
11-26-2007, 08:19 PM
i wouldnt use a step bit or unibit. Use progressive sized bits. I reccomend pop rivoting the scuff plates onto the hood.
B_Hoov
11-26-2007, 08:42 PM
not really a flat spot on my hood to mount the scuff plates but i have to figure something out for sure. anyone done this that would like to help? free beer...
scttydb411
11-27-2007, 06:58 AM
i've done a few, but not much time to help. trust me, it's really easy. just take your time and follow my suggestions above and you should be good.
also, if you make the hole a little larger than the lock core, you can align them easily. it also helps if you slightly bend the studs to meet the hood at close to a 90* angle. mount the studs before you do any drilling, bend them to the curve of the top of the hood, put some grease on the tops of the pins and lower the hood down to mark where to start drilling with a small decently sized bit to work from.
the first one will take you a little bit of time, but the second one will take about 1/4 of the time.
B_Hoov
11-27-2007, 07:45 PM
do i need to put some epoxy around the hole i drill to keep it from splitting or cracking?
scttydb411
11-27-2007, 09:30 PM
no, but what i would do is take the sanding wheel and take the edge off the hole (chamfer it) to prevent cracking once you're done.
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