God Bless America

[RandomGuy]

http://www.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/asiapcf/11/07/pakistan/index.html#cnnSTCText

you ppl are spoiled , you don't realize what we truly have (within reason)

[Jecht]

Even though I was born and raised here in the U.S., I have to agree with you that most Americans are spoiled.

[VooDooXII]

America, Bless God

[Slow Motion]

United States of America.

I hope GOD continues to bless us, because the things that are going on here...

[coolcat]

America > Jihadastan

[Jecht]

United States of America.

I hope GOD continues to bless us, because the things that are going on here...

Well at this rate your God won't be blessing us much longer - China is on it's path to becoming the largest superpower in the world.

I welcome our future Asian overlords! :lmao:

[VooDooXII]

Well at this rate your God won't be blessing us much longer - China is on it's path to becoming the largest superpower in the world.

I welcome our future Asian overlords! :lmao:

You'll be loving life...with those Asian women and all.

[NewGen33]

Well at this rate your God won't be blessing us much longer - China is on it's path to becoming the largest superpower in the world.

I welcome our future Asian overlords! :lmao:
That doesn't matter we have more nukes.
Our nukes > theres.

[redrumracer]

how is china on the way. from what ive always understood china was the most populated country out there

[Kamikaze]

how is china on the way. from what ive always understood china was the most populated country out there

Last I heard, China makes up 1/6th of the worlds population. Might be more now.

[NewGen33]

Last I heard, China makes up 1/6th of the worlds population. Might be more now.
Thats means nothing if 75% live in poverty.

[Kamikaze]

Thats means nothing if 75% live in poverty.

I wasn't saying that because I perceive China as a threat. I was just stating a fact since redrumracer made a comment about its population.

[NewGen33]

I wasn't saying that because I perceive China as a threat. I was just stating a fact since redrumracer made a comment about its population.
gotcha :goodjob:

[Jecht]

how is china on the way. from what ive always understood china was the most populated country out there

It is not a superpower like the U.S. because it doesn't have power (bombs, etc.). It is on its way though, they are growing in power.

[RandomGuy]

It is not a superpower like the U.S. because it doesn't have power (bombs, etc.). It is on its way though, they are growing in power.
are you retarded? China not only is a nuclear nation, but is third in global military strength behind the US and Russia.

It is serious... China IS a superpower, idiot.

[TheProfiteer]

are you retarded? China not only is a nuclear nation, but is third in global military strength behind the US and Russia.

It is serious... China IS a superpower, idiot.

straight up.

And while they are very traditional they are also very ruthless, but china has no intention of pushing their ways on westerners, so long as we keep buying their crap, no matter how much they charge.



Now if all of a suden china decided that thier exports were top fukcing notch started charing more than 35cents pert article of clothing, india would start to boom*

China has a long way to go before it can even attempt an act if imperialism.

Tibet does not count.


*Econmic Boom

[lilmanx01]

HOWEVER China is rumored to possibly have a bubble economy, it may only grow so large so fast till it may collapse

but I agree that they are def superpower and going places along with India who is also booming in economy these days

[NewGen33]

China is still terrified of the US. They are a long way off from our military standards.

[SL65AMG]

how is china on the way. from what ive always understood china was the most populated country out there

population is nothing. they are becoming more and more industrialized, and technologically advanced by the minute. they will be more powerful than us and thats not a good thing.....

[SL65AMG]

straight up.

And while they are very traditional they are also very ruthless, but china has no intention of pushing their ways on westerners, so long as we keep buying their crap, no matter how much they charge.



Now if all of a suden china decided that thier exports were top fukcing notch started charing more than 35cents pert article of clothing, india would start to boom*

China has a long way to go before it can even attempt an act if imperialism.

Tibet does not count.


*Econmic Boom

do you not think that this could cause a huge war? do you think that were just gonna buy their crap, at any price? the only reason their CRAP sells is because its cheap, not quality...

[SL65AMG]

Thats means nothing if 75% live in poverty.

it means something in a communist country if you can turn that 75% into cheap soldiers, or they face death.

[NewGen33]

it means something in a communist country if you can turn that 75% into cheap soldiers, or they face death.
tiananmen square...and it wont matter they will never be at our level.

[SL65AMG]

tiananmen square...and it wont matter they will never be at our level.

its not always necessary to be at the same level. sometimes it just takes enormity and will power....

we can have the greatest weapons and technology in the world but that doesnt mean **** if the people behind it cant shoot the gun or use the technology....

[OneSlow5pt0]

we have bombs now that are 10000x more powerful than what we dropped on japan.......we could wipe china off the planet if we wanted too

[TheProfiteer]

do you not think that this could cause a huge war? do you think that were just gonna buy their crap, at any price? the only reason their CRAP sells is because its cheap, not quality...

uh no. A war on the baisis of clothing prices going up? No no, and NO

Secondly I do not know if you are aware but the US ALREAYD OWES CHINA A LITTLE LESS THEN A TRILLION DOLLARS!!!!

[NewGen33]

its not always necessary to be at the same level. sometimes it just takes enormity and will power....

we can have the greatest weapons and technology in the world but that doesnt mean **** if the people behind it cant shoot the gun or use the technology....
How would we not be able to use the weapons? They are booming but not in a stable way. It will be only a matter of time until the have a civil war. If there youth is willing to die for democracy then they have no future as a communist country.

[NewGen33]

uh no. A war on the baisis of clothing prices going up? No no, and NO

Secondly I do not know if you are aware but the US ALREAYD OWES CHINA A LITTLE LESS THEN A TRILLION DOLLARS!!!!
Since when...link?

[TheProfiteer]

Since when...link?


About 66% of that 44% was held by the central banks (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Central_bank) of other countries, in particular the central banks of Japan (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japan) and China (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/People%27s_Bank_of_China). In total, lenders from Japan and China held 47% of the foreign-owned debt

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_public_debt


you know what the national debt currently is, do the calculations.

[NewGen33]

wikipedia, nice I think my friends three year old sister posts **** in there.

[NewGen33]

and that don't mean a ****. Countries still owe us money from both WW's. They wont get it and we wont get it, move on.

[blacknightteg]

are you retarded? China not only is a nuclear nation, but is third in global military strength behind the US and Russia.

It is serious... China IS a superpower, idiot.

yeah there a super power whos gunna fall apart after a while uz walmart is god over there lol. everything will fall apart if walmart makes it lol ****TY RUBBERMAID NUCLEAR WEAPONS FTW!!!

[TheProfiteer]

and that don't mean a ****. Countries still owe us money from both WW's. They wont get it and we wont get it, move on.


uh no Germany paid off its debt in the late 80s


LOL at the US not paying China.

China and India put the clothes on your back fool.

I guarantee you would not survive one month buying only american made products.



And Wikipedia requires documentation for the posts to be deemed valid.

[TheProfiteer]

yeah there a super power whos gunna fall apart after a while uz walmart is god over there lol. everything will fall apart if walmart makes it lol ****TY RUBBERMAID NUCLEAR WEAPONS FTW!!!

wallmart is an american company that sells chinease bought/made products.

Wallmart is a pleague upon the American Economy, if you want your country to survive actively boycot wallmart.

[The Ninja]

You take wikipedia with a grain of salt, not a hand full. It can provide valuable information, just on certain topics there tends to be more than its fair share of bias/slant.

[Brut]

The Canadian dollar is nearly worth the same as the U.S. dollar. These are startling news coverages that let us know how bad the economy really is. The net external debt right now is 10.04 Trillion june 30th of 2006. It should be more by now.

[TheProfiteer]

You take wikipedia with a grain of salt, not a hand full. It can provide valuable information, just on certain topics there tends to be more than its fair share of bias/slant.

thats true, but somethings just cannot have a bias associated with them.

[SL65AMG]

uh no. A war on the baisis of clothing prices going up? No no, and NO

Secondly I do not know if you are aware but the US ALREAYD OWES CHINA A LITTLE LESS THEN A TRILLION DOLLARS!!!!

ok no not on prices in general going up. but prices on goods that we need would cause this.

wars could start over things that you may not expect.

food and water


and as far as our debt to them goes they have a lot of control over what happens here if they choose to do so.... for example


say you owe someone $1000, they call you and ask for their money, you say you do not have it. they get pissed, say you have another month. they call a month later and demand their money, you still dont have it, they get pissed and say you have a week or they are gonna come to your house and beat the **** out of you(theyre serous).

a week later they call and ultimately end up comming to your house. you know the rest....


imagine owing someone a trillion dollars.....


they have us by the balls if they want. and it has been brought up a few times. ill see if i can find the links later. i think its in an e-mail i got.

[SL65AMG]

uh no Germany paid off its debt in the late 80s


LOL at the US not paying China.

China and India put the clothes on your back fool.

I guarantee you would not survive one month buying only american made products.



And Wikipedia requires documentation for the posts to be deemed valid.

id love to take you up on that bet. but we dont make **** here anymore. most of what we did make has been outsourced.....

[The Yousef]

if the neo-conservative death cult of doom party win the next election...i'm moving to Canada

[RandomGuy]

if the neo-conservative death cult of doom party win the next election...i'm moving to Canada
go back to your country n00b

i hereby revoke your prostitution/student visa.
that that shit elsewhere

[SL65AMG]

if the neo-conservative death cult of doom party win the next election...i'm moving to Canada

and that would be???

[NewGen33]

uh no Germany paid off its debt in the late 80s


LOL at the US not paying China.

China and India put the clothes on your back fool.

I guarantee you would not survive one month buying only american made products.



And Wikipedia requires documentation for the posts to be deemed valid.
WRONG where do you think countries like England got their weapons from. And Germany paid its war debts?

[SL65AMG]

WRONG where do you think countries like England got their weapons from. And Germany paid its war debts?

theres weapons in england???? LOLOLOLOLOL


rocks dont count

[Julio]

the US had a hard time with IRAQ..

The US wont be able to handle Korea... there is going to be a lot of dead soldiers when the time comes.. just imagine against China if it ever happens.

[SL65AMG]

the US had a hard time with IRAQ..

The US wont be able to handle Korea... there is going to be a lot of dead soldiers when the time comes.. just imagine against China if it ever happens.


i dont think that the war itself was particularly difficuly, its just the colossal amount of asinine rules and regulations(red tape) that our beloved government operates under that we cannot get anything done efficiently.


if our generals were allowed to make decisions for our military( since they know whats best because they ARE the military) and not have to run it by some paper-pushing ***** ass politician that knows nothing about how the military works, much less what would be the best tactical decision, we might be a bit more effective.

[NewGen33]

the US had a hard time with IRAQ..

The US wont be able to handle Korea... there is going to be a lot of dead soldiers when the time comes.. just imagine against China if it ever happens.
I'm sorry Julio but I have to disagree with you on this fully. We absolutely dominated Iraq. The term of shock and Awe is a understatement. There was zero casualties in the overtaking of the country and for you to say we had a hard time with them is just ignorant. Precision guided bombs dropped by stealth fighters and bomber made the overtaking of the country almost to easy. People were able to roam the streets while we dropped bombs on key structures not even harming the building next to it. I guess you have never heard of all the Iraqis that would fight for a short period then would quickly surrender or not fight at all. Iraq had the fourth strongest military when we kicked there asses out of Kuwait.

If we were as weak as you say don't you think we would of had another country come and take over our country? But that will never happen, were feared because of our military strength. The cold war was stopped because of the development of the US military. I could go on proving you wrong but I'll just say go read a history book.

[NewGen33]

theres weapons in england???? LOLOLOLOLOL


rocks dont count
Yes and there also one of our most reliable allies.

[RandomGuy]

There was zero casualties in the overtaking of the country and for you to say we had a hard time with them is just ignorant. You sir are retarded. IED/ RPG's ring a bell? I'd love for you to say that in front of a loved one of a deceased soldier.
Surely the damage inflicted on the IRAQI people (no not the "insurgents") But the ACTUAL PEOPLE is vast...but regardless its straight up ignorant to deny that there were any casualties...



If we were as weak as you say don't you think we would of had another country come and take over our country? But that will never happen, were feared because of our military strength. The cold war was stopped because of the development of the US military. We aren't playing command and conquer, the age of conquest is over.


I could go on proving you wrong but I'll just say go read a history book.
I want to see what kind of history books you've been reading.

Must be some sort of watered down childrens novel slightly pertaining to war (in terms of fallen candy warriors and twizzler tanks)

[NewGen33]

I said overtaking the country before all this lets rebuild it diplomatic bs. And yes us investing tons and tons of money into our military has nothing to do with us being a world power. Oh and you got me on that one, nothing but toddler books and below for me.

[RandomGuy]

We absolutely dominated Iraq.
this is by far the dumbest post I have ever seen on IA.


First of all define dominated? Did the United States achieve its "goal" for lack of a better word. The country invaded Iraq under false pretenses (proven)... And demolished a semi-orderly country into hurricane-katrina like ruins, killed MANY innocent men, women and children in the process. Why? Who knows. There are many motives out there, but this isn't what the thread is about. In the process, the US plunged the national debt even further than before, killed/injured our troops, created even more hostility in the region (everything has a domino effect) but yeah.... Dominated? Hardly. If we dominated, why are we still there? Continuing to lose soldiers. If you're talking about initial contact then whoa that really proves something?

[RandomGuy]

I said overtaking the country before all this lets rebuild it diplomatic bs. And yes us investing tons and tons of money into our military has nothing to do with us being a world power. Oh and you got me on that one, nothing but toddler books and below for me.
no you said 0 casualties. (verbatim) Sources, plz?

I believe it was:
I do not like green eggs and weapons of mass destruction?

[RandomGuy]

And yes us investing tons and tons of money into our military has nothing to do with us being a world power.
since wars don't require resources.

[NewGen33]

no you said 0 casualties. (verbatim) Sources, plz?

I believe it was:
I do not like green eggs and weapons of mass destruction?
Yes during the shock and awe campaign. After that of course. War is war and nobody wins no matter the outcome. And as in dominated I mean they put up little resistance. Can you find a source saying we didn't during that time only? I do like debating and I think your views are very good.

[Fox351]

First of all define dominated? Did the United States achieve its "goal" for lack of a better word. The country invaded Iraq under false pretenses (proven)... And demolished a semi-orderly country into hurricane-katrina like ruins, killed MANY innocent men, women and children in the process. Why? Who knows. There are many motives out there, but this isn't what the thread is about. In the process, the US plunged the national debt even further than before, killed/injured our troops, created even more hostility in the region (everything has a domino effect) but yeah.... Dominated? Hardly. If we dominated, why are we still there? Continuing to lose soldiers. If you're talking about initial contact then whoa that really proves something?


I think by dominate we was refering to the fact that our troops were in the capital of the country in the royal palace within 2 weeks with minimal civilian casualties due to the weapons guidance systems. I have a question about the "goal" that the wise George W. Bush has placed on the war on Iraq. WHAT IS IT ? He doesn't even know. That is the reason that we are still there....we don't know what the hell to do next b/c no one knows what the end "goal" really is....Do we set up a democracy for them for certain peoples profits while still sending our country further and further into debt or do we just cut bait and run out and let them figure out what to do for themselves ?....This is also costing many families there sons, daughters, mothers, fathers, brothers, and sisters (after the initial contact due to haveing our soldiers on the ground and in the line of fire of the extremist) while we sit in idle waiting on our "elected" trained monkey decide what the hell to do all the while he lies directly to the public....exactly what Bill Clinton was "kicked out" for. The only way we are going to be thrown over is if the people of America decide that our government isn't governing to the best intrests of its people...sound familiar...I say if the government keeps the current policies and procedures then we are in a world of hurt due to the government overthrow. I also agree with the idea of giving our generals more power but it would have to be limited due to the example of rebel generals directing there troops to overthrow there government to put themselves into power...enter many examples. I don't know everything but I do have opinions and I hope I don't piss anyone off.

[TheProfiteer]

There is was no Domination of Iraq or its military.

First off when the US came everyone in the military said f u c k Sadam, and ran home to defend their families.

What do you think Insurgents are? Terrorists?

How about defenders of their own Country?

There is no other way to strike against the US other than terroristic like tactics. Iraq would never be able to Declare war on the US, why because then the US would not have to follow with all that red tape if another country declared war.

Remember this the US attacked, they found Sadam in no time flat, great, if the Bush family was smart they should of withdrawn as soon as Sadam was captured, but because the Bush family put him in power, then tried to setup a puppet government that didnt work out, and they got really mad at Sadam for not listening to US demands and not letting Iraq become the Middle eastern bastard child satellite country they decide and ago and try to Conquer.

Hasan is right the Age of conquest has passed, but the US is only Some 200+ years old, and it thinks that it can gloat its fat bellied over filled consumeristic idealogy anywhere it sees fit. Vietnam wasnt enough, now they think they can evangelize Corporitarianism to the middle east and expect those people give up the only hopes of them fully industrializing.


If the US really wanted to do some damage to the Middle east they should of put a Mcdonalds, KFC, Taco Bell, and Pizza hut on every desert corner.



Everything else aside and I really hope people agree, the US went way wrong with Iraq, it was a retarded strategy for an attempt at political conquest, the decision to lie to the American People was even worse. We were betrayed as a nation, first the government never gave us justice for 911, then they lied to us saying Iraq is to blame with the WMDs and all, now they continue to throw away American lives and in the process make more enemies then the US could ever wish for.


If all the money that went to Iraq was put into Alternative Resource research, we would of been laughing at every country who was still Dependant on oil.

I know you guys have been hearing the word "Trillion" alot lately but, by 2010, thats what the cost of Iraq will be, that is a little more than 2 years.


rant end.

[SL65AMG]

We aren't playing command and conquer, the age of conquest is over.


i dont agree with this entirely. the opportunity for conquest is always there, we as well as most of the world are not actively trying to overtake other countries.

just because it is not happening at this moment, do not rule its possibility out entirely

[Stormhammer]

China: is a threat, no matter how you look at it. anyone remember when it blew up one of its own dilapidated satellites with a missile? The now have a very good space program, are orbiting the moon with a satellite probe following Japan. $50 says they'll have something back on the moon before the US does.

India: Believe it or not could be one of our greatest allies should China become an enemy in a war

The age of conquest is always present, look at the political turmoil in Africa. All a nation has to do is seat itself properly in a sub-saharan african country and they got it made

[SicStang03]

Asians scare me :cry: