can u cut 240sxstock suspensiontoo lower it ???

[sakasaku]

if u can how tell me how too pls!!:goodjob:without messing it up

[Benefit]

wow...

[Benefit]

ill cut them for you for 50$

[kppk1986]

go kill yourself

[green91]

Cutting your suspension is dangerous and the car will not handle properly, just save your money and buy some real lowering spings. they are worth every cent

[Whiteboy™]

Laugh my arse off

[ubers2k]

your font size pisses me off... and the fact that you want to lower it by cutting the springs? please go drift into a ****ing pole.

[cobalt9123]

:lmfao: if that's not ricer i don't know what is, lol.

[BuBBa DRiFT]

its completely possible to do so, but the ride quality will be ****ty, spend the money for suspension, its worth it.

[Benefit]

its completely possible to do so, but the ride quality will be ****ty, spend the money for suspension, its worth it.

this, coming from, you?

[green91]

lol i had cuscos on my 240 and it was one of the worst riding cars ive ever been in

[DrivenMind]

go kill yourself

hahahahahahahahahahah

[Sol-Badguy]

HAHAHA!!! :lmfao:

[Elbow]

I had cut springs on my 240, was not that bouncy AT ALL, took a day to do it though and measure it all out. Perfect even height. Never had a problem. It is not dangerous, you are just making it stiffer spring rates. Here is a pic of mine (used to be mine):

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y237/simontibbett/MyS13008.jpg

[BuBBa DRiFT]

some of my buddies have cut springs, it will make it flip floppy and not too enjoyable, but lowered 240s look 100x better. but like i said before, spend the money on suspension. i have ebay right now, and its not bad, but im going megan next time i get a buttload of cash

[Elbow]

^Then they cut them wrong ;) Or too much. Or have blown shocks.

[TS240]

I had cut springs on my 240, was not that bouncy AT ALL, took a day to do it though and measure it all out. Perfect even height. Never had a problem. It is not dangerous, you are just making it stiffer spring rates. Here is a pic of mine (used to be mine):

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y237/simontibbett/MyS13008.jpg

:werd:
WOW someone who actually know what their talking about:goodjob:
+1 if I can

[osiriskidd]

just take your time. for the budget driver it's a good thing until you can afford a real suspension setup. just dont ride on it too long

[quickdodge®]

:werd:
WOW someone who actually know what their talking about:goodjob:
+1 if I can

****, you missed my write up on heating/cutting springs:


I bet half the people that tell you not to cut/heat springs have never done it themselves. They only go by word of mouth. My Grand Am is the FIRST car I've ever had (out of 13 cars) that I did NOT lower by way of heating. I heat the springs of my first car back in 1987 and rode like that for 4 years. No problems. Every car after that, I completely took the springs all the way off and rode struts. I even won the Atlanta Region SCCA championship in two years on heated springs on my Neon. And it was a daily driver. Put 216,000 miles on that car on the factory spring/strut combo with the springs heated the day I bought it. I have NEVER had a suspension related issue due to doing this.

But notice I have said heated this whole time. I don't like cutting because the ride is worse. In my experiences, I've always had good riding cars after a good heating job. Plus you don't have to take anything off the car when you heat.

Spring heating is not the best way to go, but it's not nearly as bad as people (some inexperienced or uninformed) try to say it is. But if you can afford to buy lowered springs, by all means, do so first. Choose what you will, but remember, you can take the word of someone who has only been into cars for a couple of years who's never done this or the word of someone who has been lowering cars for 20 years and has done nothing but this. Also, I can't guarantee that you won't have problems, but odds are, you won't. If you do do this, don't expect to run out and take car and race it everywhere. Doing this as long as I have, I knew how my car worked and handled, so I was able to do SCCA. If you want to race, get springs. If you're just cruising, nohing wrong with the propane.

Later, QD.

[Capt._Ron]

i have cut springs one the front of my 240 now and it looks a lot better and is fine for daily driving but handles like crap

[cdhtang]

just buy some lowering spring, it is not that much more than cutting the spring. But if you decide to do it, good luck.

[ryanh300]

Buy springs at least!! I got my Neuspeed springs for $80 installed, go the safe route man. You don't want to mess up your suspension and it will be really bouncy.

[speedminded]

Buy springs at least!! I got my Neuspeed springs for $80 installed, go the safe route man. You don't want to mess up your suspension and it will be really bouncy."Bouncy" is solely determined by the shocks dampening abilities, not the spring itself.

[Ltdnismorace]

lol i had cuscos on my 240 and it was one of the worst riding cars ive ever been in

cusco is WAY ****ing overrated... WAY overrated. For the money, you can get much better anyways.

As far as cutting springs, it's not a BAD idea if you have struts that will handle it. Essentially cutting the springs just changes the spring rate which in turn will blow your stock struts because they are valved for such. I currently run a set of full coilovers on my S13 and I hate them with a passion. For drift they would be fine, but I'm a grip man and they are WAY TOO stiff even on the lowest rebound adjustibility. My next move is probably going to be a custom set of koni dampening and rebound adjustable shocks and a set of shine racing springs with a sleeved upper and lower mount design for height adjustability. Just do your research, generally taking the easy way out is also the bad way out.

[speedminded]

cusco is WAY ****ing overrated... WAY overrated. For the money, you can get much better anyways.

As far as cutting springs, it's not a BAD idea if you have struts that will handle it. Essentially cutting the springs just changes the spring rate which in turn will blow your stock struts because they are valved for such. I currently run a set of full coilovers on my S13 and I hate them with a passion. For drift they would be fine, but I'm a grip man and they are WAY TOO stiff even on the lowest rebound adjustibility. My next move is probably going to be a custom set of koni dampening and rebound adjustable shocks and a set of shine racing springs with a sleeved upper and lower mount design for height adjustability. Just do your research, generally taking the easy way out is also the bad way out.Why don't you just replace the springs on the dampeners with a lower spring rate?

[Stormhammer]

I would listen to what QD has to say, the man has been around in the car scene for quite sometime - while I too would advocate just saving up and riding around stock height, if it bugs you THAT badly, heating is the way to go, but take your time, and don't rush it

[yudalicious]

it can be done, but someone like you (OP) will probably **** it up. Just save for a week and buy some cheap springs if you're really intent on lowering the car.

[yudalicious]

Why don't you just replace the springs on the dampeners with a lower spring rate?

It's not the springs. JDM dampers usually tend to have a ton of compression damping and linear damping curves. This really leads to a more jittery car on track. I rode in some Koni-shod cars and I was amazed how much more lateral grip they were able to "produce" even on a car with comparable street tires to mine. You Honda people have it lucky, off the shelf damper solutions with Koni yellows, race valved yellows, etc. Where as we have to cut struts up and modify this housing that housing to run the dampers we want. If I drove a Honda there's no way I'd touch any other damper outside of Koni, Bilstein, etc.

[Sammich]

this, coming from, you?

i know right...this is the same guy that threw a cat in the dryer and expected him to survive...wtf

[kppk1986]

Dude this place is crazy it is not okay to cut your springs, they created your car so that it will sit at that height. And if you cut your springs it will make your dampers useless making your suspension bottom out constantly. And they will make it bouncy because your spring rates wont be able to handle the amount you lowered it. If you want to lower it then go get your self some decent suspension. And just getting lowering springs with out a good set of dampers is throwing money out the window. Your stock dampers will go to hell and youll have an unsafe bouncy car that shouldn't be on the street and your car will ride like crap. Just do it right the first time and dont screw yourself from the beginning.

[Elbow]

^You are not smart, the end.

[R32Dragon]

Kids like this are exactly why I abandoned 240's.

[quickdodge®]

Dude this place is crazy it is not okay to cut your springs, they created your car so that it will sit at that height. And if you cut your springs it will make your dampers useless making your suspension bottom out constantly. And they will make it bouncy because your spring rates wont be able to handle the amount you lowered it. If you want to lower it then go get your self some decent suspension. And just getting lowering springs with out a good set of dampers is throwing money out the window. Your stock dampers will go to hell and youll have an unsafe bouncy car that shouldn't be on the street and your car will ride like crap. Just do it right the first time and dont screw yourself from the beginning.

Wow. This is the reason why I don't post in threads where I don't know what I'm talking about. Later, QD.

[santacruz77]

got some ebay coilover want them lol pm me if you do

[Thighs]

240sx is the new civic. are u gonna be a drift racer and dori dori off a cliff? please?

[Elbow]

Ian I want your eBays

[Elbow]

Kids like this are exactly why I abandoned 240's.

Like what?

[iEvo]

yes u can but dont be an idiot and do it

[Glides]

My Corolla has cut springs in the back. Cut them right and you have no problem. Cutting springs will not make your car bouncy. Bad shocks will make your car bouncy.

They don't make them in the height I needed so I clipped one coil off the ones I had, which were already lowering springs. Works great. Ride is the same, no weird gremlins threatening to throw me from the roadway and nobody ever knew the wiser, til now.

So if you aren't a total idiot, you can cut your springs and make them work for what you need.

[Glides]

Kids like this are exactly why I abandoned 240's.

Maybe he doesn't have loads of money to outfit his 240 into something nice, obviously you do and your Z still looks like ass.

[speedminded]

My Corolla has cut springs in the back. Cut them right and you have no problem. Cutting springs will not make your car bouncy. Bad shocks will make your car bouncy.

They don't make them in the height I needed so I clipped one coil off the ones I had, which were already lowering springs. Works great. Ride is the same, no weird gremlins threatening to throw me from the roadway and nobody ever knew the wiser, til now.

So if you aren't a total idiot, you can cut your springs and make them work for what you need.Lowering springs are normally linear so nothing will change but the height when they are cut. Most OEM springs are progressive and will become either harder or softer depending which side of the spring is removed.

Like you said, it doesn't matter as long as the dampener can meet the needs of the spring rate and application.

[yudalicious]

Lowering springs are normally linear so nothing will change but the height when they are cut.

Anyway, if you cut off coils off a linear spring, it WILL change the spring rate. # of coils, wire diameter, and other factors affect spring rate. Compressing a linear spring (via coilovers) does not though.

[R32Dragon]

Maybe he doesn't have loads of money to outfit his 240 into something nice, obviously you do and your Z still looks like ass.

If you were paying attention, you would know that he doesnt even own a 240, he was just eye-humping one that he wanted and got pissed when it sold.

[bigdare23]

heres a suggestion, invest in used springs

[cdhtang]

yeah,sometimes you can get agx with tein stech for 300.

[Glides]

If you were paying attention, you would know that he doesnt even own a 240, he was just eye-humping one that he wanted and got pissed when it sold.

If you were paying attention, you would know I posted in his pissed thread. Either way that has no effect on cutting springs seeing as how the information transfers from car to car since unless he's buying a 1970 Ford Truck he'll have springs on it.

[speedminded]

Anyway, if you cut off coils off a linear spring, it WILL change the spring rate. # of coils, wire diameter, and other factors affect spring rate. Compressing a linear spring (via coilovers) does not though.LOL, how on earth can a linear spring rate change...its LINEAR! The "wire diameter" and spring rate is the exact same throughout the entire spring....you take 10% off and the other 90% is still the exact same, you take 20% off and the other 80% is still the exact same...

[yudalicious]

LOL, how on earth can a linear spring rate change...its LINEAR! The "wire diameter" and spring rate is the exact same throughout the entire spring....you take 10% off and the other 90% is still the exact same, you take 20% off and the other 80% is still the exact same...

If you cut off an "active" coil, it will change the spring rate. A simple search on google will tell you this. http://dirtbike.off-road.com/dirtbike/article/articleDetail.jsp?id=332656 first one that came up, you can search yourself for a more authoritative source if you like.

[speedminded]

If you cut off an "active" coil, it will change the spring rate. A simple search on google will tell you this. http://dirtbike.off-road.com/dirtbike/article/articleDetail.jsp?id=332656 first one that came up, you can search yourself for a more authoritative source if you like.You win! I'm guilty of erroneously using Spring Rate as Spring Load. Once you understand that then it all makes sense...

Spring Rate = 11,250,000 times the wire diameter to the 4th power divided by 8 times the active number of turns times the mean diameter cubed.

[chituntang]

Anyways, if you want to do it, just make sure you cut at the same spot on both springs (front and rear). Or you will have poor ride, and even ride height.

Springs are like 100 bux now a days. Go get it.