ANTI-IMMIGRANT?....

[SpeedMonkey]

DO SOME ****ING RESEARCH... DONT REPEAT WHAT MOMMY DADDY OR THE TV TELL YOU AND ACCEPT IT IMMEDIATELY. QUESTION EVERYTHING. AS AMERICAN UNGRATEFUL ****S WE ALL HAVE TO REALIZE THAT THE ONLY REASON WE CAN EAT FOOD TODAY... IS ONLY BECAUSE SOMEONE SOMEWHERE ELSE CANT


Myths about Immigrants,
Welfare, and the Economy

http://www.lipmagazine.org/images/DropCap_A.gifs for immigrant use of welfare benefits, undocumented workers and their families are not eligible for cash welfare or food stamps. They are only eligible for emergency medical assistance, prenatal care and educational benefits, all of which are considered worth providing so as to reduce health emergencies, epidemics and the social problems associated with lack of schooling.

In fact, a proper analysis of welfare receipt rates shows that immigrants are not more likely than native-born residents to receive welfare. Excluding emergency refugees (who are eligible for several types of assistance in virtually any country to which they escape), recent immigrants receive public aid at lower rates than the native-born and immigrant use of welfare has been decreasing for over twenty years.

Contrary to common perception, today’s immigrants (largely of color) are actually less likely to receive assistance than were the European immigrants of the early 1900s. Over half of all welfare recipients in 1909 were immigrants, and these immigrants were three times more likely to receive assistance than the native-born.

As for the cost of immigration to the public sector, rather than draining taxpayer coffers, immigrants actually contribute positively to the economic health of the United States; indeed, recent immigrants create a net surplus to the public sector of nearly $30 billion annually, according to the Urban Institute.

Data from New York State—with the second largest immigrant population in the nation—shows that the foreign born population there pays about $18 billion in taxes each year, with a per capita tax payment that is hardly distinguishable from their native born counterparts. Even those immigrants who are in New York illegally (only 16% of immigrants in the state) pay over $1 billion annually in taxes.

In California—home to 43% of illegal immigrants in the U.S.—undocumented workers contribute approximately seven percent of the state’s economic product: roughly $63 billion annually. According to a study by researchers at UCLA, the gross economic contribution by each illegal immigrant to the economy of California was nearly $45,000 per year.

Given that the average undocumented worker receives very low wages—typically less than $10,000 annually—this means that even with paltry social service benefits available to these immigrants, the net transfer of income is exactly the opposite of that implied by immigrant bashers. Instead of the state and nation subsidizing immigrants, it is more accurate to say that immigrants subsidize the economy and the companies for which they work by performing low-wage labor that is worth at least four times more, on average, than what they earn from income and welfare combined.

The study most often cited to “prove” the high cost of immigrants relative to the taxes they pay was conducted by Donald Huddle, of Rice University, on behalf of the anti-immigration group, Carrying Capacity Network. Yet further analysis of the Huddle study by researchers at the Urban Institute revealed several flaws which undermine its conclusions.

[Dirty Octopus™]

Immigrants are cool :goodjob:
they have so many good quailities :D

[redrumracer]

honestly i could care less about immigrants, hell we are all immigrants more than likely somewhere down the line

[BB6dohcvtec]

i dont care about them either, they are cool with me as long as they pay taxes.

[fucksohc]

i dont care about them either, they are cool with me as long as they pay taxes.

X2

[SpeedMonkey]

the point is ... most of them do.


and STILL do not have priviliges the rest of the tax payers do. why not?

[drmcivicsi]

i hate u Will =)

[SpeedMonkey]

LOL

[japan4racing]

im the white devil..all of you guys can blame me if you want too..im used to it!

[Crazy Asian]

will doesnt pay taxes and lives off of welfare. You should see him at the soup kitchen.

[SpeedMonkey]

you lying bastid!

[The Ninja]

the point is ... most of them do.


and STILL do not have priviliges the rest of the tax payers do. why not?

Well if they're "illegal" immigrants then its because they are "illegal".

If they are just "immigrants" then I don't understand why they are being denied privileges.

[SpeedMonkey]

Well if they're "illegal" immigrants then its because they are "illegal".

If they are just "immigrants" then I don't understand why they are being denied privileges.

you caught a misspell. good.


tell me black man..... whats does "BOFUM" mean?

[drmcivicsi]

what u doing tonite will lol ?

[Sammich]

i like immigrants...especially the female ones that put out

[4dmin]

who gives a ****?


considering you get FREE healthcare and don't have to pay taxes you have nothing to complain about. if you don't like it go home or become legal. :2up:

ps. i did enjoy your GOOGLE rant. do some research :lmfao:

http://www.michaeldietsch.com/images/misc/tqi_cover.jpg

[The Ninja]

you caught a misspell. good.


tell me black man..... whats does "BOFUM" mean?

I dunno... >.>...If I wanted the post to be about the misspell then I would have made it about the misspell. Instead, I just made it bold so that when you read my post you would realize you spelled it wrong and maybe not do it again.

[SpeedMonkey]

who gives a ****?


considering you get FREE healthcare and don't have to pay taxes you have nothing to complain about. if you don't like it go home or become legal. :2up:

ps. i did enjoy your GOOGLE rant. do some research :lmfao:

http://www.michaeldietsch.com/images/misc/tqi_cover.jpg


you dont HAVE to pay taxes... however most of them do. dont you think they're entitled to some basic privileges?

or the right to be pissed off and speak out when thats what MOST of you bitches cry about? TAXES... most of them pay them.. so what IS your issue?


if the truth lies somewhere in the side of your wife sucking off a mexican while being with you...... let it be known.. cause i see no reason for your attitude.

[The Ninja]

No. I don't think they can cry about anything. They are in the wrong, even if they do everything else right, they are still in the wrong.

If a guy is robbing a bank, and a bystander steps in and happens to be carrying a gun and happens to be a crack shot and BOOM HEADSHOTS that mother****er thats robbing the bank, but unfortunately the bullet bounces off the interior of his cranium and hits and kills an innocent bystander, should the "hero" be held accountable?

I know that has nothing to do with this, and I couldn't think of anything else to say so I came up with an off-the-wall story so you can waste your time reading my post. BWUAHAHAHA I win *****.

[silversol]

No. I don't think they can cry about anything. They are in the wrong, even if they do everything else right, they are still in the wrong.

If a guy is robbing a bank, and a bystander steps in and happens to be carrying a gun and happens to be a crack shot and BOOM HEADSHOTS that mother****er thats robbing the bank, but unfortunately the bullet bounces off the interior of his cranium and hits and kills an innocent bystander, should the "hero" be held accountable?

I know that has nothing to do with this, and I couldn't think of anything else to say so I came up with an off-the-wall story so you can waste your time reading my post. BWUAHAHAHA I win *****.
:goodjob:

[thinkfast®]

thug life

[SpeedMonkey]

No. I don't think they can cry about anything. They are in the wrong, even if they do everything else right, they are still in the wrong.

If a guy is robbing a bank, and a bystander steps in and happens to be carrying a gun and happens to be a crack shot and BOOM HEADSHOTS that mother****er thats robbing the bank, but unfortunately the bullet bounces off the interior of his cranium and hits and kills an innocent bystander, should the "hero" be held accountable?

I know that has nothing to do with this, and I couldn't think of anything else to say so I came up with an off-the-wall story so you can waste your time reading my post. BWUAHAHAHA I win *****.



ok...... so you're going to be an extremist..

ok lets look at it from that angle...

wether doing right or wrong.... they are illegals... = wrong regardless.


ok... well then...... if we're going to be extremist, take paul back to england for tea time chap, and make sure he drops your monkey ass off somewhere in africa... preferably near madagascar.

[thinkfast®]

south africans are the privileged ones Will

dont you mean nigeria or some ****

[SpeedMonkey]

south africans are the privileged ones Will

dont you mean nigeria or some ****

South africa is mostly white


= dead dninja in about 2 days to a week.

[thinkfast®]

aaah

:points finger at speedmonkey:

YOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOU

youre somethin you

[On_Her_Face]

there are illegals in america?.. no way.

[SpeedMonkey]

what im saying.... is if you're gonna SIT and ***** like a ****** to make things right... make them RIGHT!.

[The Ninja]

**** that. I'm like a chameleon, I blend in with the whities, lol. Why we gotta get racist?

[The Ninja]

what im saying.... is if you're gonna SIT and ***** like a ****** to make things right... make them RIGHT!.

Just to clarify, that wasn't directed at me was it? I wasn't bitching about anything. I sure as hell didn't make this thread.

[The Ninja]

I wasn't being an extremist either. I'm pretty sure I've made illegal associates, and if they were to tell me they were illegal I wouldn't care. Depending on a few factors (Whether I get a decent amount of $$$, or if we were good friends or not) I wouldn't turn them in.

I'd wonder why, instead of paying those taxes you're so sure the majority of illegal immigrants pay, aren't they using that money to pay to become legal?

[On_Her_Face]

i hate illegals and wont ever be around them :ninja: lol

[GSRteg®]

honestly i could care less about immigrants, hell we are all immigrants more than likely somewhere down the line

I like the way you think.

[thinkfast®]

if money bought legal status you wouldnt see mexicans ridin around in 2008 escalades lol

[The Ninja]

if money bought legal status you wouldnt see mexicans ridin around in 2008 escalades

Whats stopping them from becoming legal?

[thinkfast®]

its obvious you dont know anything about immigration laws or the loooooooooong wait there is to change your status

I have a cousin right now that filed when she first came here from Colombia (legally) in 2002, she just got her first residency appointment last week

[The Ninja]

*shrug*

Is the US obligated to allow anyone/everyone into the country? Why don't you ***** at Luxembourg? The only way to become a citizen there, is to be born there.

[The Ninja]

its obvious you dont know anything about immigration laws or the loooooooooong wait there is to change your status

I have a cousin right now that filed when she first came here from Colombia (legally) in 2002, she just got her first residency appointment last week

Yes....its very obvious isn't it? Thats not stopping her, its delaying her. I'm sure you are extremely educated on the subject matter.

[GDuty5_Chic]

It's not hard to file for citizenship, if immigrants want the privileges they should become a citizen. And I am sure the ones that want privileges could easily pass a test with a few simple questions and fill out the appropriate forms to become a citizen.

[thinkfast®]

It's not hard to file for citizenship, if immigrants want the privileges they should become a citizen. And I am sure the ones that want privileges could easily pass a test with a few simple questions and fill out the appropriate forms to become a citizen.

is that all you think is involved w/ becoming a US citizen?? when is the last time you filed for US citizenship???

the process is a lot more then a dumbass 25 question test about who won the civil war and who the 1st president was. even that test is in spanish now lolol

[thinkfast®]

*shrug*

Is the US obligated to allow anyone/everyone into the country?

ask your great grandparents, Im sure they know a thing or two about being immigrants.

or let me guess, you were born on a reservation here?

[Brick]

I don't mind immigrants, as long as they're legal.

[tony]

As for the cost of immigration to the public sector, rather than draining taxpayer coffers, immigrants actually contribute positively to the economic health of the United States; indeed, recent immigrants create a net surplus to the public sector of nearly $30 billion annually, according to the Urban Institute.



I have been telling people this for a while now, its the reason why all this immagration reform is a bluff.. the federal government is not going to shoot itself in the foot by doing away with something that contributes to the economy.

We live in a capitalistic society people, more times than often the almighty dollar is going to win. I have some personal views on immigration but its not relevant.

[GDuty5_Chic]

is that all you think is involved w/ becoming a US citizen?? when is the last time you filed for US citizenship???

the process is a lot more then a dumbass 25 question test about who won the civil war and who the 1st president was. even that test is in spanish now lolol

I just past for citizenship last year! I waited a year for my appointment, they give you 100 easy ass questions to learn. They asked me 3 questions and the rest was filing paperwork.

[The Ninja]

ask your great grandparents, Im sure they know a thing or two about being immigrants.

or let me guess, you were born on a reservation here?

My mom is an immigrant from Trinidad. I asked her, and she said it wasn't too hard. She's legal and has been paying taxes since she's been here. I was born in a reservation camp I like to call BROOKLYN *****!

[The Ninja]

Pops is an immigrant from Jamaica, he too said it was pretty simple.

[japan4racing]

why do they have to be illegal? there is no punishment for coming over here "illegally" all you get is a one way trip home so you can try again the next day. thereis nothing that deters them from coming over here. i dont even know why the term illegal alien exists. to do something illegal you have to break a law. when you break a law you go to jail or pay fines.....when you come over the border you just go back to try again. its bull****. why dont we just fly to iraq and afganistan and load up all the taliban and bring them over. it would save them alot of money and they could all go to school here for free and we could teach them how to destroy or country from the inside out!

i cant wait untill i have kids and they are in school....they will take english as a 2nd language..we will have white history month...i cant wait to be the minority. i want my free ****...i want my job becuase of my skin color....i want a check from the govt...i want all responsibility to be stripped away from me. let the govt and the ppl of this country take care of me!!! its about time the roles were reversed!!!

im tired of paying more for taxes and health care benefits that most ppl make in a year. i spent $10k just in state and federal taxes last year. health care is retarded expensive. on my last pay check i took home $1 more than was taken out of my check....i took home half of my paycheck...why? because of hard working americans? because of law abiding citizens? perhaps it was because of the excellent managment of our welfare system......im giving the credit to ppl that are here that should not be here. i have to pay for ppl that dont want to go out and do something with their lives..i have to pay for that illegal that wrecked his car and had no insurance, i gotta pay for healthcare to someone that was not insured becuase they were illegal.

go back to whereever you came from and come back legally. dont just come over here and **** out a baby and think you are welcome to make yourself at home.

/rant

[thinkfast®]

you go girl

[The Ninja]

Oh snap!

[SpeedMonkey]

nothing funnier than a pissed off white man.



its NOT that easy... specially for mexicans.. do you not understand..... its more profitable to KEEP them illegal than legal.

[SpeedMonkey]

why do they have to be illegal? there is no punishment for coming over here "illegally" all you get is a one way trip home so you can try again the next day. thereis nothing that deters them from coming over here. i dont even know why the term illegal alien exists. to do something illegal you have to break a law. when you break a law you go to jail or pay fines.....when you come over the border you just go back to try again. its bull****. why dont we just fly to iraq and afganistan and load up all the taliban and bring them over. it would save them alot of money and they could all go to school here for free and we could teach them how to destroy or country from the inside out!

i cant wait untill i have kids and they are in school....they will take english as a 2nd language..we will have white history month...i cant wait to be the minority. i want my free ****...i want my job becuase of my skin color....i want a check from the govt...i want all responsibility to be stripped away from me. let the govt and the ppl of this country take care of me!!! its about time the roles were reversed!!!

im tired of paying more for taxes and health care benefits that most ppl make in a year. i spent $10k just in state and federal taxes last year. health care is retarded expensive. on my last pay check i took home $1 more than was taken out of my check....i took home half of my paycheck...why? because of hard working americans? because of law abiding citizens? perhaps it was because of the excellent managment of our welfare system......im giving the credit to ppl that are here that should not be here. i have to pay for ppl that dont want to go out and do something with their lives..i have to pay for that illegal that wrecked his car and had no insurance, i gotta pay for healthcare to someone that was not insured becuase they were illegal.

go back to whereever you came from and come back legally. dont just come over here and **** out a baby and think you are welcome to make yourself at home.

/rant


so its the illegals fault your car is ****ed up right?

look at it like this.. why cant they get licenses in america... however america has made it possible for them to buy a car with no license.. no license = no insurance...... tahts right.. even gwinnett ford financed with tax id's.. no SS#'s... go ***** at them.. better yet...
next time.. be pissed at yourself... the voter... you wanted to give the illegals a hard time to make them leave... they arent going anywhere... so its for YOUR best interest to watch WHO the **** you vote for next time.

[soplocar]

I am an inmigrant, i came here legally, I pay taxes,i speak english, I finished High School, I work at the same place for the past 6 years.
I know theres a lot of people here that complains about illegal inmigrants not paying taxes and sucking up the taxpayers money, well, it is not easy but the solution could be this:
1. secure the border., that means more border patroll involved. Building a wall is not the solution. When the american goverment closes a door, 2 more will be open.
2. let illegal people become Legal, its like this, if they have no felonies, help them.
just kick out the inmigrants that have felonies, just do a background check on all the people that applies.
3. if they are legal, they must pay taxes like everyone else, if they dont just "KICK THEM OUT", believe me when i say that they would do everything right in order to stay here legally.


so Legal inmigrant = license = insurance = no hit and run = pay taxes = economy goes up.

[japan4racing]

so its the illegals fault your car is ****ed up right?

look at it like this.. why cant they get licenses in america... however america has made it possible for them to buy a car with no license.. no license = no insurance...... tahts right.. even gwinnett ford financed with tax id's.. no SS#'s... go ***** at them.. better yet...
next time.. be pissed at yourself... the voter... you wanted to give the illegals a hard time to make them leave... they arent going anywhere... so its for YOUR best interest to watch WHO the **** you vote for next time.

wtf are you talking about? if i drink and drive and hit some one its automatically my fault..i broke a law and i suffer the consequences. so if some illegal hits me with no insurance yes its on them. i break a law i get penalized..they break a law the same should happen to them.

so now its my fault as a voter that these illegals are crossing the border. news flash buddy..they are illegal..they are breaking the law coming here. no matter what he **** i vote for they are still gonna come over here. speaking of voting..these assholes cant even vote. they cant do **** but suck this country dry living of the programs democrats put into effect to help the lazy ****s of this country. c'mon man. im not ****ing stupid. i know alot of these illegals work very hard..but it still dont change the fact that they are here illegally. when you make 12k a year you dont notice it but try making $50k+ a year and see how you like pulling the weight of every person that dont wanna go out and do **** the way you are supposed to. beside how the **** do you know who i voted for..did you vote? what are you doing for your country? if you didnt vote then you need to gtfo...i work for DoD and i keep c17's and c5's flying missions to keep this country like it is. i pay taxes, every day at work we play the national anthem, everyday i fix a plane that was in the desert. why? so that ppl like you can enjoy a freedom like this site..so that all these illegals can come to this country and enjoy such lavish living at the expense of our own relatives dieing in iraq and the tax dollars that me and you spend. yes it pisses me off to see ppl take advantage of this country. yes im pissed to see you take the side of ppl that are not citizens of our country. we should stand up and take a stand against illegal immigrants. you come here legally and you are good to go. but you come here illegally and you expect the same rights i have yet you dont pay taxes and you came by way of breaking a law??? you dont support his country you want to bring mexico into this country and over run it? **** you illegal immigrant..take your bull**** back across the border. this is america. learn english, learn how we work and come on back legally. untill then stay in mexico and leach off the govt they have. i dont se whyteh hell you ppl cant understand this ****. it has nothing to do with being a pissed off white guy...it has everyting to do with being a pissed off american.


I am an inmigrant, i came here legally, I pay taxes,i speak english, I finished High School, I work at the same place for the past 6 years.
I know theres a lot of people here that complains about illegal inmigrants not paying taxes and sucking up the taxpayers money, well, it is not easy but the solution could be this:
1. secure the border., that means more border patroll involved. Building a wall is not the solution. When the american goverment closes a door, 2 more will be open.
2. let illegal people become Legal, its like this, if they have no felonies, help them.
just kick out the inmigrants that have felonies, just do a background check on all the people that applies.
3. if they are legal, they must pay taxes like everyone else, if they dont just "KICK THEM OUT", believe me when i say that they would do everything right in order to stay here legally.


so Legal inmigrant = license = insurance = no hit and run = pay taxes = economy goes up.

i could not agree with you more...yet im the racist white guy becuase im tired of this country being sucked dry by illegals...i dont give 2 ****s what color they are..what religion, sex, creed, species whatever..i dont care..if you are illegal you are illegal. gtfo!

discuss......

[Maniaç]

japan4racing, thats a cute story and all but no one really gives a fuck.

[4dmin]

you dont HAVE to pay taxes... however most of them do. dont you think they're entitled to some basic privileges?

or the right to be pissed off and speak out when thats what MOST of you bitches cry about? TAXES... most of them pay them.. so what IS your issue?


if the truth lies somewhere in the side of your wife sucking off a mexican while being with you...... let it be known.. cause i see no reason for your attitude.

no your not entitled to anything if your illegal! don't like it become legal. the majority only are paying for sales tax and i highly count that as paying taxes.

oh goodjob on the b!tch move but my wife prefers crackers over bean dip :goodjob:

[soul]

i think i got the solution

http://images.amazon.com/images/P/6300182711.01.LZZZZZZZ.jpg

[Kyle]

Immigrants are cool, but illegal immigrants are...well illegal. Laws are made for a reason. I'm all for immigration, but you can't just bypass our immigration process for your own convenience. They need to go through the process everyone else has to.

[japan4racing]

japan4racing, thats a cute story and all but no one really gives a fuck.

the sad part is that you should give a ****...keep on voting democrat and enjoy the down fall of this country

[speedminded]

We were all immigrants at one time or another.

[ISAtlanta300]

no your not entitled to anything if your illegal! don't like it become legal. the majority only are paying for sales tax and i highly count that as paying taxes.

See whenever the "illegal" debate comes out, all we hear is the "they don't pay taxes" argument..... The only thing they MAY not pay is income tax, but with their income, if they were to file taxes, I willing to bet that most will get refunds... LOL

Try paying sales tax, ad valorem tax, property tax etc. and not getting to file them.....

Which would benefit the government more, legal immigrants who file taxes and may get money back due to their income bracket or illegals who may skimp on their income tax, but pay all other taxes and get nothing back?

[ISAtlanta300]

its NOT that easy... specially for mexicans.. do you not understand..... its more profitable to KEEP them illegal than legal.

Quoted for truth, it's not that easy.

Believe me, I have had an immigration lawyer say the only way is 1. Get sponsored by a relative or 2. get married. And he was talking to someone with an advanced college degree who was multi-lingual.....

[Maniaç]

For once ISAtlanta300 has a point, I too am Mexican and know all about how to become legal and the long process that follows. Alot of you don't know this, and just asume that its a 1 to a week thing, wrong!

[japan4racing]

ther sure seems to be a bunch of ppl saying it aint that easy but they seem to be keeping it a secret..what all does it take to become legal? and regardless of how hard it is to become legal should we still let illegals in? its hard to do alot of things....but that dont make it right to it illegally.

and for the taxes arguement...getting money back is just a by product of paying too much in. even if they got some money back they still had to pay in with income taxes. hell the last 3 years i have gotten over 2 grand back...but i have paid in nearly 30 grand in those three years. and i guarantee if i stop paying taxes they are coming to get me...but not mr. illegal. he dont pay taxes and is in the country illegally and when he gets caught....worst case scenario....3 squares and a shower then back to mexico to try again. i say we post snipers on the border and shoot every leech that comes over here. we are on our way to being meximerica

[4dmin]

See whenever the "illegal" debate comes out, all we hear is the "they don't pay taxes" argument..... The only thing they MAY not pay is income tax, but with their income, if they were to file taxes, I willing to bet that most will get refunds... LOL

Try paying sales tax, ad valorem tax, property tax etc. and not getting to file them.....

Which would benefit the government more, legal immigrants who file taxes and may get money back due to their income bracket or illegals who may skimp on their income tax, but pay all other taxes and get nothing back?

there are many more reasons then just taxes... healthcare is a HUGE issue... some illegal baby factory can get FREE healthcare that I and everyother american has to pay for; then beyond that their children are now automatic citizens. Going back to taxes this is one of the reasons Fair Tax needs to be passed so we can get more taxes out of illegals in this country.

I have nothing against illegals that are here to work and make a better life for themselves... now when they start to complain about what they are entitled to - lol. You are a criminal you have no rights so STFU.

[VooDooXII]

The only thing we need is a sensible process of making people citizens...not something that takes years and years on end.

[ISAtlanta300]

For once ISAtlanta300 has a point, I too am Mexican and know all about how to become legal and the long process that follows. Alot of you don't know this, and just asume that its a 1 to a week thing, wrong!

Exactly, and all the while what are you supposed to do... just sit around and do nothing for years on end while waiting for your papers?

[ISAtlanta300]

ther sure seems to be a bunch of ppl saying it aint that easy but they seem to be keeping it a secret..what all does it take to become legal? and regardless of how hard it is to become legal should we still let illegals in? its hard to do alot of things....but that dont make it right to it illegally.

and for the taxes arguement...getting money back is just a by product of paying too much in. even if they got some money back they still had to pay in with income taxes. hell the last 3 years i have gotten over 2 grand back...but i have paid in nearly 30 grand in those three years. and i guarantee if i stop paying taxes they are coming to get me...but not mr. illegal. he dont pay taxes and is in the country illegally and when he gets caught....worst case scenario....3 squares and a shower then back to mexico to try again. i say we post snipers on the border and shoot every leech that comes over here. we are on our way to being meximerica

You paid 30K in taxes? that is more than what Mr. Illegal would probably make in a year under the table....

[japan4racing]

there are many more reasons then just taxes... healthcare is a HUGE issue... some illegal baby factory can get FREE healthcare that I and everyother american has to pay for; then beyond that their children are now automatic citizens. Going back to taxes this is one of the reasons Fair Tax needs to be passed so we can get more taxes out of illegals in this country.

I have nothing against illegals that are here to work and make a better life for themselves... now when they start to complain about what they are entitled to - lol. You are a criminal you have no rights so STFU.

truth...pure thruth.... especially the last line

[japan4racing]

You paid 30K in taxes? that is more than what Mr. Illegal would probably make in a year under the table....

over a 3 year period..yes i did pay 30k in taxes. roughly 10k every year i pay that much. and i still have to pay for medical insurance and then when i go to a hospital i still have bills to pay from it. meanwhile and illegal can go to a hospital and get the same care for free....who do you think is paying for it? me and you. they should get stiffer on the companies that pay these guys under the table too. and you cant really blam the illegals our own ppl are doing it to us. the illegals are just taking advantage of it. send em back and make em come back legally. there are many problems in this country and legalizing all these illegals may not fix all our problems but getting all that tax income and healthcare income from them sure wont hurt us.

[SampaGuy]

Whats stopping them from becoming legal?


http://www.sentimentalrefugee.com/maze_final_SR.jpg

[SampaGuy]

I just past for citizenship last year! I waited a year for my appointment, they give you 100 easy ass questions to learn. They asked me 3 questions and the rest was filing paperwork.


You obviously already had legal resident status. Thats completely different.

[VooDooXII]

http://www.sentimentalrefugee.com/maze_final_SR.jpg


The only thing we need is a sensible process of making people citizens...not something that takes years and years on end.

Like I said.

[Brick]

The fact that it's difficult and lengthy to become legal doesn't change the fact that illegals should get the **** out if they have no intention of doing so.

[VooDooXII]

They're coming here and they're willing to work...why not make it easier for them to become normal, tax-paying, American citizens? These are normal people who are being turned into criminals because of this. If the process was not so difficult and lengthy, I'm sure they'd gladly go through it so they can work here without constantly having to watch their back. It's not good for us, and it's not good for them. Fix the process, and I'd say that's the solution.

[japan4racing]

These are normal people who are being turned into criminals because of this.

no no my freind....coming here illegally only carriess a sentence of going back home to try again. the only ones that are criminals came with criminal intent. with it being hard to get a green card it dont mean you need rape someone, drive without insurance or liscence, rob a gas station, or murder anyone. there are many illegal aliens that come here and abide by the laws..while i call them illegal they may not be criminals. i want them to be here legally and untill then go back home. regardless of how well they work they are still sucking this country dry. i dont give a **** if you are the hardest working person to ever grace the face of this planet. if you cant pay the same taxes i pay, pay the same rediculous medical prices i pay, and pay the same rediculous insurance rates i pay then you need to gtfo! im all for having hard working ppl here....legally. hell..get rid of 70% of the usa's lazy ass population and bring in 85% of mexico's population...just do it legally and pay for the same **** i pay for. im just tired of carrying everyones weight. it must be nice to be in the welfare system and sit on your ass and get paid while i work all year long and get half of the money i actually earned. trade those welfair suckers in on some hard working mexicans that pay taxes and we got ourselves a booming economy on our hands...if only we could really trade like that....... :dreaming:

[ISAtlanta300]

and illegal can go to a hospital and get the same care for free....who do you think is paying for it?

they don't really get the same care.... Mr. Illegal would go to Grady while you would prob. go to Northside or something...lol

[SpeedMonkey]

The fact that it's difficult and lengthy to become legal doesn't change the fact that illegals should get the **** out if they have no intention of doing so.

thats just it you moron.. they ALL want it.

[SpeedMonkey]

no no my freind....coming here illegally only carriess a sentence of going back home to try again. the only ones that are criminals came with criminal intent. with it being hard to get a green card it dont mean you need rape someone, drive without insurance or liscence, rob a gas station, or murder anyone. there are many illegal aliens that come here and abide by the laws..while i call them illegal they may not be criminals. i want them to be here legally and untill then go back home. regardless of how well they work they are still sucking this country dry. i dont give a **** if you are the hardest working person to ever grace the face of this planet. if you cant pay the same taxes i pay, pay the same rediculous medical prices i pay, and pay the same rediculous insurance rates i pay then you need to gtfo! im all for having hard working ppl here....legally. hell..get rid of 70% of the usa's lazy ass population and bring in 85% of mexico's population...just do it legally and pay for the same **** i pay for. im just tired of carrying everyones weight. it must be nice to be in the welfare system and sit on your ass and get paid while i work all year long and get half of the money i actually earned. trade those welfair suckers in on some hard working mexicans that pay taxes and we got ourselves a booming economy on our hands...if only we could really trade like that....... :dreaming:


you sir are by FAR the biggest moron to have posted on my thread.

READ CAREFULLY

no social Security # =
1. No license
2. no license = no insurance


you just CANT go to the DMV and have it all gravy..... as someone who pays over 30K a year in taxes alone as so you claim... i'd figure you sure would pay mind to who's running for anything, watch your vote... i refuse to beleive you pay 30K in taxes and yet know nothing.

[thinkfast®]

where you been puto

[SpeedMonkey]

DEAR PAUL (ADMIN)



insurance fraud = 98 % americans

Healthcare abuse = 90% + americans

Welfare abuse = 100% americans


as an american i'd figure you'd rather pay for "Pedro's" broken leg from falling off the roof of your house when he was replacing shingles rather than pay for the kids that were injured because some dumb **** emotional american felt like he had no friends and no one loved him so it felt like a great idea to take a 9mm to school and put led in his classmates.... this is happening like how often now? every other month?.


im sorry paul... but whats happening is inevitable... we will over populate you.. you will learn spanish as we have learned your english and you will be forced to deal with it... while your wife might not experience the brown ****.. your daughters definately will. i pray for it to be my kid who impregnates your daughter.. so i can send him back to mexico and truly give you a reason to hate the brown man, you are a 2 faced ass ******... friendly as a beagle in heat in my face... but a **** talking ***** ass racist ****** behind the monitor...

now.. if you're gonna reply with anything else to offend me and my people... then by that you are also accepting a private meet between you, I and mr. Carrasco. make a choice.

[4dmin]

DEAR PAUL (ADMIN)



insurance fraud = 98 % americans

Healthcare abuse = 90% + americans

Welfare abuse = 100% americans


as an american i'd figure you'd rather pay for "Pedro's" broken leg from falling off the roof of your house when he was replacing shingles rather than pay for the kids that were injured because some dumb **** emotional american felt like he had no friends and no one loved him so it felt like a great idea to take a 9mm to school and put led in his classmates.... this is happening like how often now? every other month?.


im sorry paul... but whats happening is inevitable... we will over populate you.. you will learn spanish as we have learned your english and you will be forced to deal with it... while your wife might not experience the brown ****.. your daughters definately will. i pray for it to be my kid who impregnates your daughter.. so i can send him back to mexico and truly give you a reason to hate the brown man, you are a 2 faced ass ******... friendly as a beagle in heat in my face... but a **** talking ***** ass racist ****** behind the monitor...

now.. if you're gonna reply with anything else to offend me and my people... then by that you are also accepting a private meet between you, I and mr. Carrasco. make a choice.

:lmfao: i'm so sorry i don't give a f*ck about your struggles or rants as an illegal. i love toolbag's like you and alex who get online and run your c*ck suckers about other people's wives b/c you guys are such up standing citizens. either way you don't get under my skin b/c i'm better then the both of you.

furthermore i do love you talking about me behind a monitor and your like accept a private meet.... how about you just ask alex where i live? :goodjob:

[thinkfast®]

lol why was carrasco brought up, he's so past IA politics/BS it aint even funny

[Maniaç]

:lmfao: i'm so sorry i don't give a f*ck about your struggles or rants as an illegal. i love toolbag's like you and alex who get online and run your c*ck suckers about other people's wives b/c you guys are such up standing citizens. either way you don't get under my skin b/c i'm better then the both of you.

furthermore i do love you talking about me behind a monitor and your like accept a private meet.... how about you just ask alex where i live? :goodjob:Don't know if you're talking about me or Carrasco(sp), but what Will said is true. You're a two faced, bitch! I bet you would be super extra nice in real life, and not even bring up any illegal jokes or your problems towards them on real life. Am I right? Don't answer, we already know what you're going to say. If you're so better, be the bigger man, and shut the fuck up and move on from this thread.

[4dmin]

Don't know if you're talking about me or Carrasco(sp), but what Will said is true. You're a two faced, bitch! I bet you would be super extra nice in real life, and not even bring up any illegal jokes or your problems towards them on real life. Am I right? Don't answer, we already know what you're going to say. If you're so better, be the bigger man, and shut the fuck up and move on from this thread.

i'm sorry who the **** are you? you don't know me and i'm not sure i've even ever met you. i love you people i dissagree with you and i'm RACIST... bahhh!!! hello i guess julio must be white right? i mean he is the type of guy that would work w/ a racist.

how about you stop swinging from others nuts? i was talking about ALEX CARRASCO since he brought him up. your right i'm a racist i'm an equal opportunity h8ter i can't stand people who think that america owes them something. i'll remember to ask for FREE citizenship, healthcare, public school, taxes, etc when i'm out of the country :jerkit:

[Maniaç]

Thats cute, but I thought you were the better man? Move on already.

[4dmin]

Thats cute, but I thought you were the better man? Move on already.

whats cute that you can't read and you assume i was talking about you? i'm sure you are the only immigrant named ALEX :goodjob:

[Ran]

Legalize or Leave

My $.02

[thinkfast®]

lol at alex jr in here tryin to earn his stripes

beat it son

[4dmin]

Legalize or Leave

My $.02

YOUR RACIST :lmfao: , THATS RACIST WE ARE GOING TO TAKE OVER YOUR COUNTRY AND IMPREGNATE YOUR WIFE/DAUGHTER :bump:

[Maniaç]

whats cute that you can't read and you assume i was talking about you? i'm sure you are the only immigrant named ALEX :goodjob:Still running that mouth like a dog huh? Funny how easily you change your mood. Looks like Will really did hit a nerve. How weak, paul. Just shut up man, you ain't shit. I was trying to forget all the small issues I had with you from like last year or whenever it was, but you just love talking smack, just like the two hispanics that you're talking about. Pathetic.

[Maniaç]

lol at alex jr in here tryin to earn his stripes

beat it sonRicky, ......................... Nah, I'll save it for the real world. Lolol.

[4dmin]

Still running that mouth like a dog huh? Funny how easily you change your mood. Looks like Will really did hit a nerve. How weak, paul. Just shut up man, you ain't shit. I was trying to forget all the small issues I had with you from like last year or whenever it was, but you just love talking smack, just like the two hispanics that you're talking about. Pathetic.

Will was far from hitting a nerve... Alex tried the same **** talking about my wife b/c i guess that is the card you guys have to pull. Not very creative.

What small issues... i don't even know you nor have we ever met. Sorry if i deleted one of your stupid threads or you got banned from running your mouth on here.

[Maniaç]

Will was far from hitting a nerve... Alex tried the same **** talking about my wife b/c i guess that is the card you guys have to pull. Not very creative.

What small issues... i don't even know you nor have we ever met. Sorry if i deleted one of your stupid threads or you got banned from running your mouth on here.Not very creative? These old tricks work fine, seems like it still has a strong hit ratio on some. You're the "bigger" man, paul. :rolleyes: Move on.

[Ran]

YOUR RACIST :lmfao:I've been called that before, but quite frankly I don't care. If you're here legally, or at least going thru the process, then I've got no problems. Anyone that's talked to me in person knows that's what I believe. We just don't need people coming in and doing whatever the hell they want.

[Maniaç]

I've been called that before, but quite frankly I don't care. If you're here legally, or at least going thru the process, then I've got no problems. Anyone that's talked to me in person knows that's what I believe. We just don't need people coming in and doing whatever the hell they want.To late for that.

[Ran]

To late for that.Yeah, the problem is obvious. The answer, not so much.

[4dmin]

To late for that.

are you even illegal?

[SpeedMonkey]

i've hit a nerve way back when the batlground thing happen..

of course they won that debate.. they pay you, i dont.

Paul you're full of it.. and when that whole thing between batlground and me happened you took the side where the $$ was regardless of the dirty laundry that was pulled out of my magic hat.. my threads deleted... because it would "HARM" their business..

**** you paul, illegal or not.. better than me or not... it irks you to know that you are ***** made..and we can all sense it. its obvious.

[SpeedMonkey]

I've been called that before, but quite frankly I don't care. If you're here legally, or at least going thru the process, then I've got no problems. Anyone that's talked to me in person knows that's what I believe. We just don't need people coming in and doing whatever the hell they want.


thats the problem. those who are in process (some for now over 12 years) suffer still to this day. do you not see the big picture? its better to have them as illegals..way more profitable. yet all you dumbasses that think you've got voice because you can vote ***** and ***** and ***** without knowing facts about anything, if you truly want to eliminate a problem, learn it inside out and get rid of it.

[SpeedMonkey]

how about a debate in person?..

anyone up for it?

[thinkfast®]

will is heated boy stand back lol

[SpeedMonkey]

nothing more annoying than american bi*ch made ******s thinking they know how **** works...

keep voting.. keep voting..

whats happening to the US is an invasion thats inevitable.. and sooner or later, when the **** hits the fan, you dumbasses will lose.

dont give me that ILLEGAL IS ILLEGAL bullsh*t, if you trully wanna make things right as so many of you say, get the **** back to Europe, and give back what you stole...a nd drop the blacks back in africa.

too late for that right?... same with this issue.. its WAY too later.. so take it in instead of causing unnecessary damage that in the end, only the "white american" will pay for.

[4dmin]

i've hit a nerve way back when the batlground thing happen..

of course they won that debate.. they pay you, i dont.

Paul you're full of it.. and when that whole thing between batlground and me happened you took the side where the $$ was regardless of the dirty laundry that was pulled out of my magic hat.. my threads deleted... because it would "HARM" their business..

**** you paul, illegal or not.. better than me or not... it irks you to know that you are ***** made..and we can all sense it. its obvious.

lol which batlground thing... you've been pissing and moaning about them since day one. i swear either you have a thing for tracy b/c it seemed all you wanted to do is talk **** to her online. actually when i first met you; you ranted to me at BP about Batlground and a few other shops... i let you then come on and run your mouth for a few months until this went off the deep end on both parties... you running your mouth and them getting in your face at the varsity. i do believe i told the both of you the next to start **** gets banned... that was you. get over it.

don't like it don't come back; i'm tired of listening to you cry b/c your p#ssy hurts. click the X at the top of the screen or just STFU. end of discussion.

[thinkfast®]

nothing more annoying than american bi*ch made ******s thinking they know how **** works...

keep voting.. keep voting..

whats happening to the US is an invasion thats inevitable.. and sooner or later, when the **** hits the fan, you dumbasses will lose.

dont give me that ILLEGAL IS ILLEGAL bullsh*t, if you trully wanna make things right as so many of you say, get the **** back to Europe, and give back what you stole...a nd drop the blacks back in africa.

too late for that right?... same with this issue.. its WAY too later.. so take it in instead of causing unnecessary damage that in the end, only the "white american" will pay for.

QFT

[japan4racing]

you sir are by FAR the biggest moron to have posted on my thread.

ditto


READ CAREFULLY

no social Security # =
1. No license
2. no license = no insurance

no **** sherlock. so the more illegals we have here the more non-liscenced drivers and non insured drivers we have on the roads which makes it a higher risk to drive which makes my rates go up. its really simple basic ****.



as someone who pays over 30K a year in taxes alone as so you claim... i'd figure you sure would pay mind to who's running for anything, watch your vote... i refuse to beleive you pay 30K in taxes and yet know nothing.

listen up douche canoe....perhaps you should step off your soapbox and go re-read what i have typed in this thread. i never once said i paid $30k a year....i did however say i paid $30k over the last 3 years....maybe your dumb ass cant do math since you didnt get taught as well as us white folk so im gonna break this down to you in rich white ppl private school terms becuase you obviosuly think that all white ppl think they are superior.

$30,000 devided by 3 years = $10000 for every one year

you obviously dont see the strain this whole ilegal thing puts on our country. having willing to work ppl is great but if they cant pay taxes and take care of there own **** they are worthless. if they contribute the cost of health care, insurance, and/or taxes increasing then they just negated any good they had in the economy.

im not saying its only mexicans..its white, black, yellow, orange, pink, and purple ppl...its bad enough to deal with the strain of legal citezens sucking the country dry we dont need millions of illegal citizens to come in and help.

im not rich, im not better than anyone, i dont deserve better treatment as a human...but your god damn right i deserve more as a citizen of this country that somebody that jumped a fence, **** out a kid, and started picking peaches for under the table wages..not paying taxes, not paying insurance, and using state funds to get by.

you can argue with me all day and night about this and im not gonna back down. this country is going to hell and regardless of whos fault it is it needs to be stopped and the first step is to close the borders and end our charity to the lazy and lame of this nation

/rant again

[Ran]

nothing more annoying than american bi*ch made ******s thinking they know how **** works...Except maybe some fence-hopping illegal thinking the country owes them something. I wonder what Mexico would want to do if I walked over and started doing whatever I please without any registration.


whats happening to the US is an invasion thats inevitable.. and sooner or later, when the **** hits the fan, you dumbasses will lose.So basically you're saying, "I'm here illegally and there's nothing you can do about it. Just accept it." is a good argument? Wow, convincing.


dont give me that ILLEGAL IS ILLEGAL bullsh*t, if you trully wanna make things right as so many of you say, get the **** back to Europe, and give back what you stole...a nd drop the blacks back in africa.Stole? More like the white man whooped @ss and claimed the land. Similar to how ALL nations have come into existence. That argument is about as relative as the blacks claiming racism for sh*t that happened way back when. Nobody cares anymore except for sad little people who want to try and cry about the past in hopes that it gets them something.


too late for that right?... same with this issue.. its WAY too later.. so take it in instead of causing unnecessary damage that in the end, only the "white american" will pay for.Or we could take the money out of a losing war in Iraq, build a better barrier and issue a "shoot-on-sight" premise for border control. I like that idea better.


this country is going to hell and regardless of whos fault it is it needs to be stopped and the first step is to close the borders and end our charity to the lazy and lame of this nationQFT

[Spectic Tank]

whats happening to the US is an invasion thats inevitable.. and sooner or later, when the **** hits the fan, you dumbasses will lose.



LOL, have you ever stopped to think that the only reason you are able to make it here "Illegaly" is because the government lets you? That's right! The government knows that this economy thrives on cheap labor. We can't use our 'citizens' for this type of work because they have rights. They have a mininmum wage, a set number of hours they have to work, and scheduled breaks. Not to mention the conditions that most local unions have for their workers.

So while the illegals are busy 'invading'(doing cheap manual labor for more than half of what actual citizens get paid) our country, the white man is reaping all of these benifits.

We are a country founded by older white men, and to think that it won't stay that way is foolish. If the gov't wanted to I'm pretty sure they could have %80 of illegals out of this country in NO TIME, but why? Someone has to do our dirty work right?

I don't understand why legal citizens get so upset about illegals, they're here because we have allowed them to come here and they help many of our 'American' businesses thrive for half the cost. When they are no longer needed or they become too much of a burden then we will actually enforce the laws we already have in place and send their asses home.

And to those who think illegals are going to take over the country...LOL @ you!

[ep9716]

using state funds to get by.

How Do They Do That?If They Are Not Here Illegally:thinking:

[Tracy]

lol which batlground thing... you've been pissing and moaning about them since day one. i swear either you have a thing for tracy b/c it seemed all you wanted to do is talk **** to her online. actually when i first met you; you ranted to me at BP about Batlground and a few other shops... i let you then come on and run your mouth for a few months until this went off the deep end on both parties... you running your mouth and them getting in your face at the varsity. i do believe i told the both of you the next to start **** gets banned... that was you. get over it.

don't like it don't come back; i'm tired of listening to you cry b/c your p#ssy hurts. click the X at the top of the screen or just STFU. end of discussion.


Paul,

I am so glad you are getting rich off of us......LOLOLOL! $$$$$$$$$$$ BALLIN'

[PSINXS]

I am anti people. I dont care what color you are, I still hate you.

[SpeedMonkey]

LOL, have you ever stopped to think that the only reason you are able to make it here "Illegaly" is because the government lets you? That's right! The government knows that this economy thrives on cheap labor. We can't use our 'citizens' for this type of work because they have rights. They have a mininmum wage, a set number of hours they have to work, and scheduled breaks. Not to mention the conditions that most local unions have for their workers.

So while the illegals are busy 'invading'(doing cheap manual labor for more than half of what actual citizens get paid) our country, the white man is reaping all of these benifits.

We are a country founded by older white men, and to think that it won't stay that way is foolish. If the gov't wanted to I'm pretty sure they could have %80 of illegals out of this country in NO TIME, but why? Someone has to do our dirty work right?

I don't understand why legal citizens get so upset about illegals, they're here because we have allowed them to come here and they help many of our 'American' businesses thrive for half the cost. When they are no longer needed or they become too much of a burden then we will actually enforce the laws we already have in place and send their asses home.

And to those who think illegals are going to take over the country...LOL @ you!

tahts my ****ing point tool.

we are only here because it is allowed.

so why dont you tell this to the ******s that use the "TAX" issue over and over, that was the original point of this thread.

thank you for saying what i have already said.


as far as illegals taking over the country.. that'll never happen.. but the latino buying power is greater now than any other minority... with that alone, we all stick together and can really **** **** up when we stick together.. something that does NOT benefit the "OLD WHITE MAN".. end of story. maybe one day they will become a burden and what not... not in my time or my kids. by that day the USA will be so interracially mixed it wont matter.

[Tracy]

Ballin!

[SpeedMonkey]

Except maybe some fence-hopping illegal thinking the country owes them something. I wonder what Mexico would want to do if I walked over and started doing whatever I please without any registration.

probably nothing, you can pay off any cop to get away with whatever the **** you want. you're not dog the bounty hunter, they will not benefit in anyway making your bs a big deal. the end.


So basically you're saying, "I'm here illegally and there's nothing you can do about it. Just accept it." is a good argument? Wow, convincing.

yep. exactly. why? cheap labor. and theres nothing you can do about it because no one else will pick onions for 2 bucks an hour.


Stole? More like the white man whooped @ss and claimed the land. Similar to how ALL nations have come into existence. That argument is about as relative as the blacks claiming racism for sh*t that happened way back when. Nobody cares anymore except for sad little people who want to try and cry about the past in hopes that it gets them something.

thats what they did. no one is bitching about anything, im simply saying NOTHING YOU CAN DO ABOUT IT SO STFU. arguing about how illegal is illegal no matter what is as dumb as what i said about returning the land that was stolen... ridiculous.. you see.. again IM RIGHT.


Or we could take the money out of a losing war in Iraq, build a better barrier and issue a "shoot-on-sight" premise for border control. I like that idea better.

wont happen.... drugs and cheap labor come thru that border. and you cant stop it.. there WILL be no barrier.

[SpeedMonkey]

ditto



no **** sherlock. so the more illegals we have here the more non-liscenced drivers and non insured drivers we have on the roads which makes it a higher risk to drive which makes my rates go up. its really simple basic ****.




listen up douche canoe....perhaps you should step off your soapbox and go re-read what i have typed in this thread. i never once said i paid $30k a year....i did however say i paid $30k over the last 3 years....maybe your dumb ass cant do math since you didnt get taught as well as us white folk so im gonna break this down to you in rich white ppl private school terms becuase you obviosuly think that all white ppl think they are superior.

$30,000 devided by 3 years = $10000 for every one year

you obviously dont see the strain this whole ilegal thing puts on our country. having willing to work ppl is great but if they cant pay taxes and take care of there own **** they are worthless. if they contribute the cost of health care, insurance, and/or taxes increasing then they just negated any good they had in the economy.

im not saying its only mexicans..its white, black, yellow, orange, pink, and purple ppl...its bad enough to deal with the strain of legal citezens sucking the country dry we dont need millions of illegal citizens to come in and help.

im not rich, im not better than anyone, i dont deserve better treatment as a human...but your god damn right i deserve more as a citizen of this country that somebody that jumped a fence, **** out a kid, and started picking peaches for under the table wages..not paying taxes, not paying insurance, and using state funds to get by.

you can argue with me all day and night about this and im not gonna back down. this country is going to hell and regardless of whos fault it is it needs to be stopped and the first step is to close the borders and end our charity to the lazy and lame of this nation

/rant again

so you're saying its YOUR OWN FAULT you didnt get your car fixed when you got hit by an illegal who had no license/insurance...


yes it is, you're the voter.

dont give them welfare.. they dont need it.. dont give them ****... PAY FOR IT. as you're doing now.

they still won.

[Tracy]

I got money in the bank, shawty whatcha drank...........

[SpeedMonkey]

lol which batlground thing... you've been pissing and moaning about them since day one. i swear either you have a thing for tracy b/c it seemed all you wanted to do is talk **** to her online. actually when i first met you; you ranted to me at BP about Batlground and a few other shops... i let you then come on and run your mouth for a few months until this went off the deep end on both parties... you running your mouth and them getting in your face at the varsity. i do believe i told the both of you the next to start **** gets banned... that was you. get over it.

don't like it don't come back; i'm tired of listening to you cry b/c your p#ssy hurts. click the X at the top of the screen or just STFU. end of discussion.

all beef aside.. i picked a particular one to talk about

you supported a shop taht worked on a car, with a stolen motor and accessories.. they knew what they were doing.. and nothing was done about it. i wont support it. mostly because the victim of that dilema was a friend of mine. big deal.. i've convinced PLENTY to seek other shops around atlanta... im proud of it.


you however dont seem to care. ok you dont. them getting in my "FACE" proved me right.. and people started questioning.... that was my goal, and it was achieved.


i started the poll not too long ago and proved my point. they are only here because they pay to be here.

[SpeedMonkey]

who else wants some?

[PSINXS]

That is something I admire about the Latino community, they stick together and know how to benefit each other. Something Blacks (african american for you PC ppl)should have learned throughout the years. Blacks get successful and put down other Blacks. We have a lot of catching up to do.

ALso thank you for saving this country form BUll**** mexican food. **** that americanized ****. I love going to a local taqueria. Only place to get tacos tripitas!

[Tracy]

all beef aside.. i picked a particular one to talk about

you supported a shop taht worked on a car, with a stolen motor and accessories.. they knew what they were doing.. and nothing was done about it. i wont support it. mostly because the victim of that dilema was a friend of mine. big deal.. i've convinced PLENTY to seek other shops around atlanta... im proud of it.


you however dont seem to care. ok you dont. them getting in my "FACE" proved me right.. and people started questioning.... that was my goal, and it was achieved.


i started the poll not too long ago and proved my point. they are only here because they pay to be here.


I hope you have proof. I''ll be sending this page right on over to my lawyer. You just admitted to libel and slander all in one post if not ;) I have been waiting for this day. I thought you were smarter than that. I was wrong. How do you know what we "knew"...that's hearsay. You see, I have talked to my lawyer about all of this...since the day you started this bullcrap. He said all you had to do was put in writing that you steered business away from us on accusations with no proof. That being said, since we are on the topic of immigration, I hope you are legal :D

I'll let Paul tell you how much we "pay"...if he wants to ;)

Ballin'

[thinkfast®]

roll one up puto

[Tracy]

I just re-read what you said...LOL! We "worked on a car with a stolen motor and accessories" :thinking: Hrmmmmm. I wonder how that is our bad? Being that a car gets stolen almost every day from members on this site, I'm sure it may have happened more than once without our knowledge. How are we to know we are working on a car with stolen parts and accessories? Why didn't you ever call the police with your knowledge?

[Ran]

probably nothing, you can pay off any cop to get away with whatever the **** you want. you're not dog the bounty hunter, they will not benefit in anyway making your bs a big deal. the end.Great, so why should we bring ourselves down to Mexico's level? Aren't we supposed to be the better country? It seems like you'd prefer the world to be one universal sh*thole so that life is easier for scumbags to get by.


yep. exactly. why? cheap labor. and theres nothing you can do about it because no one else will pick onions for 2 bucks an hour.For cheap labor, a lot of companies outsource factories, plants, or whatever else into other countries. If they want to do that to give people in those countries a better chance then great. However, for them to bring in illegal immigrants to do manual labor for cheap so they can save some money is wrong and needs to be corrected harshly.


thats what they did. no one is bitching about anything, im simply saying NOTHING YOU CAN DO ABOUT IT SO STFU. arguing about how illegal is illegal no matter what is as dumb as what i said about returning the land that was stolen... ridiculous.. you see.. again IM RIGHT.You say there isn't anything that can be done, but there is. The problem lies in people and the desire for money. My stance on that subject stands in the above paragraph. Still, illegal is illegal and there's nothing dumb about the argument. If you feel that we should provide a cushion to every illegal deed then you're part of the problem, not the solution.


wont happen.... drugs and cheap labor come thru that border. and you cant stop it.. there WILL be no barrier.Both illegal drugs and cheap labor are against the law and need to be stopped. Keep the trash out and let those that want to come into the country legally do so. It really is that simple when you get down to it.

[ep9716]

who else wants some?
Can I Get Mine Well Done?

[Wurm]

maybe we should just have a state just for all illegal immigrants till they become legal

Montana will probally do

[Spectic Tank]

tahts my ****ing point tool.

we are only here because it is allowed.

so why dont you tell this to the ******s that use the "TAX" issue over and over, that was the original point of this thread.

thank you for saying what i have already said.


as far as illegals taking over the country.. that'll never happen.. but the latino buying power is greater now than any other minority... with that alone, we all stick together and can really **** **** up when we stick together.. something that does NOT benefit the "OLD WHITE MAN".. end of story. maybe one day they will become a burden and what not... not in my time or my kids. by that day the USA will be so interracially mixed it wont matter.

Chill the **** out...I was agreeing with a lot of what you were saying.

I don't worry myself with what other people ***** about, that's all it is is bitching.

You guys can stick together and **** **** up huh? well, the Americans can stick together and send all of their illegal asses home...PROBLEM SOLVED.

It's sad really, to think that they would rather be in a country illegaly and extorted for manual labor than live in their home country. and then to think they could be sent home at a moments notice...it's ****ed up, but we're America(that's how we roll)

[Ran]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v92/Nismosis/CensorAmerica.png

[thinkfast®]

http://young.anabaptistradicals.org/wp-content/uploads/2007/04/first_illegal_immigrants.jpg

[japan4racing]

How Do They Do That?If They Are Not Here Illegally:thinking:

if they dont have health insurance and go get treated at a hospital. who pays for it?????? its not really state funds..its not like the state has a program for these ppl. but the hospital is gonna have to re-coupe that money somehow...the way they do it is by raising the cost for me and you. so they are eating up our money rather than the states money. i used a bad choice of words inteh original coment

i can see this whole thread is just going in circles and is gonna get nowhere.


http://young.anabaptistradicals.org/wp-content/uploads/2007/04/first_illegal_immigrants.jpg

they set foot on dry land...they are in there for good!!!!! but the whore should have **** out the kid after they landed here...that way the kid is an american.

[Ran]

they set foot on dry land...they are in there for good!!!!! but the whore should have **** out the kid after they landed here...that way the kid is an american.Which is also a bullsh*t excuse. Any child born in the US should bear the status of the parents. If they're illegal, deport the kid with the parents.

[4dmin]

Which is also a bullsh*t excuse. Any child born in the US should bear the status of the parents. If they're illegal, deport the kid with the parents.

i nominate Ran for president :yes:

[thinkfast®]

why would a child born on US land in a US hospital to US doctors be deemed a resident?? or anything else other then a US CITIZEN

you know that means since your great grandparents migrated over here from germany/poland/mid Europe you should inherit their status too, right? what makes YOU any different??

you f.uckers make NO sense lol

[Ran]

why would a child born on US land in a US hospital to US doctors be deemed a resident?? or anything else other then a US CITIZENHow about because it didn't come from US PARENTS?


you know that means since your great grandparents migrated over here from germany/poland/mid Europe you should inherit their status too, right? what makes YOU any different??Had the Native American's a unified government that stated that then yes, you're right. But guess what? They didn't! NOW (that's present day for you) we have such standards and laws that people are required to abide by. That's what makes the difference.


you f.uckers make NO sense lolMakes plenty of sense when you don't make asanine comparison. Come on Ricky, you're better than that. :)

[thinkfast®]

How about because it didn't come from US PARENTS?

niether did your parents, or your grandparents for that matter. trickle down effect homey, we are ALL immigrants.

kinda hard to point fingers when even your family is in the same "boat" lol

[Ran]

niether did your parents, or your grandparents for that matter. trickle down effect homey, we are ALL immigrants.

kinda hard to point fingers when even your family is in the same "boat" lolRicky, read my entire argument and try again. You can't argue the rights of an undeveloped nation that was overrun way back in the past. Focus on what is here today.

I'll repeat what I just said in my previous post; don't make asanine comparisons.

[thinkfast®]

Im not arguing any rights homey, just sayin if you want go on and on about being a native vs. immigrant, like your people were born here lol

its truth homey, nobody's comparing all Im saying is we got as much right to be here as you, regardless of how or where we came from.. pointis we got here, not going anywhere, get used to it. b.itching about how its so bad and we shouldnt be invading like this and whats wrong w/ my health care, by the time you typed all that up there was about 500 more people that crossed the border homey.

better stay in school

[Ran]

Im not arguing any rights homey, just sayin if you want go on and on about being a native vs. immigrant, like your people were born here lolIt's not a matter of being born here. It's a matter of following the laws and regulations of an established nation. It's also a matter in which a nation should adjust and enforce it's laws to protect it's stance and people.


its truth homey, nobody's comparing all Im saying is we got as much right to be here as you, regardless of how or where we came from.. pointis we got here, not going anywhere, get used to it. b.itching about how its so bad and we shouldnt be invading like this and whats wrong w/ my health care, by the time you typed all that up there was about 500 more people that crossed the border homey.I'm not saying you don't have a right to be here. But there is a right way, and a wrong way, to do it. Going thru regulations and getting your green card is proper way to do it. Hoping a border and saying "Here I am!" isn't. You're right, b*tching about it isn't going to make the difference, but it is high time that the nation started to stand up for itself.


better stay in schoolNot sure what relevance this had to the argument, but I am still in college. I plan on staying in up until I leave.

[SL65AMG]

nothing more annoying than american bi*ch made ******s thinking they know how **** works...

keep voting.. keep voting..

whats happening to the US is an invasion thats inevitable.. and sooner or later, when the **** hits the fan, you dumbasses will lose.

dont give me that ILLEGAL IS ILLEGAL bullsh*t, if you trully wanna make things right as so many of you say, get the **** back to Europe, and give back what you stole...a nd drop the blacks back in africa.

too late for that right?... same with this issue.. its WAY too later.. so take it in instead of causing unnecessary damage that in the end, only the "white american" will pay for.


i know im a bit late in this argu....debate, but the blacks had their chance to go home. they chose to stay..... so its no longer anyones "fault" that theyre here but their own

[SL65AMG]

They're coming here and they're willing to work...why not make it easier for them to become normal, tax-paying, American citizens? These are normal people who are being turned into criminals because of this. If the process was not so difficult and lengthy, I'm sure they'd gladly go through it so they can work here without constantly having to watch their back. It's not good for us, and it's not good for them. Fix the process, and I'd say that's the solution.

so say we americans, invaded canada in the tens of thousands EVERY DAY. we worked under the table and the only taxes we paid were sales taxes. and then we demanded to become citizens because we thought it was our goddamn right to be Canadian citizens. While working under the table there we sent half of our money back to the US so it would help out our families and in turn help out the US economy because of the huge amounts of money being dumped into the system from another country. Should they just up and say ok well allow you to become citizens????


hell ****ing NO. we'd leech off of every form of infrastructure in the country and **** everything up.

if you want to be a citizen, you should damn well have a reason to do so. and shipping the money you earned back to your family in another country should be ****ing illegal.

would you allow a tape-worm(parasite) to become a part of your body solely because it was there? NO, you would get rid of it so you could be healthier.

[thinkfast®]

what does tape worms have to do w/ the immigration process, I mean besides the fact that they are both disgustingly long

[SL65AMG]

what does tape worms have to do w/ the immigration process, I mean besides the fact that they are both disgustingly long
lol


its an analogy

tape worm: person :: illegal (immigrant): country

[Ran]

what does tape worms have to do w/ the immigration process, I mean besides the fact that they are both disgustingly longlulz

[VooDooXII]

what does tape worms have to do w/ the immigration process, I mean besides the fact that they are both disgustingly long

:lmao: Hahaha

[thinkfast®]

HAHA I MADE FUNNAY

[SpeedMonkey]

Which is also a bullsh*t excuse. Any child born in the US should bear the status of the parents. If they're illegal, deport the kid with the parents.


from American history X.


"america should always be about the best man for the job, you're the best at it.. you get the job"..

you lose american.


you ran, are a retard seriously. i guess i'd be pissed too... if i could only afford a ****ing Yaris. and the immigrants in this thread all have costlier automobiles. i pay more in taxes than you do. and yes.. im still illegal with my naturalization pending.

sad sad sad...

i have worked 3 times harder than you for the same ****... guess you're just lazy.

[SpeedMonkey]

these f*ck faces think its a week long process... trust me... EVERYONE tries to come here legally.. we were all denied.. without a huge bank account to prove you can pay your way into the US. your access WILL NOT be granted.

the original Coyotes (crossing the border guides) were none other than americans.

you guys are just malinformed. and the audacity alot of you have to make judgement and comment on the subject like you can personally see things from both angles is just pathetic.


i have a much better Idea... Ran, Paul, and Japanracing (at the same time)... vs me.. in a no rules bare knuckle battle... if i lose... i leave for mexico. lets start off small... you beleive in this change so much... you know since illegal is illegal... do your part... get me to go home you bunch of finger pointing pussies.

come see the skills Mexico City, L.A. and Bankhead have blessed me with.

[TIGERJC]

aslong as your naturalization is pending, I dont see what is wrong with you staying in the country until it has cleared since it can take up to 15 years before the U.S. makes a decision on the matter

Plus I love cheap labor

[civic95]

It's too late to worry about it now. Our economy will be the equivalent of Mexico's economy in about 50 yrs. I guess we can all sneek into Canada then.

[Ran]

from American history X.


"america should always be about the best man for the job, you're the best at it.. you get the job"..

you lose american.Movie quotes? Nice reinforcement. Fail


you ran, are a retard seriously. i guess i'd be pissed too... if i could only afford a ****ing Yaris. and the immigrants in this thread all have costlier automobiles. i pay more in taxes than you do. and yes.. im still illegal with my naturalization pending.Wow, personal attacks now? Have you ever tried actually discussing something, or are you so immature that you can't hold a proper conversation without yelling or reverting to insult? What I drive or how I live within my means has nothing to do with the subject. Face it, you're out of material so you've resorted to insults to try and keep a hand on the ledge. Just stop now.


i pay more in taxes than you do. and yes.. im still illegal with my naturalization pending.Kudos to you for going through the process. I do, however, fall curious as to how you know how much I pay in taxes? Your elementary assumptions are as faulted as your initial rant.


i have worked 3 times harder than you for the same ****... guess you're just lazy.I'm lazy? If working 9-6 and taking night classes for college is lazy then, yes, I guess I am. However, I fail to see how it's my fault that my job pays more than your multiple jobs combined.


these f*ck faces think its a week long process... trust me... EVERYONE tries to come here legally.. we were all denied.. without a huge bank account to prove you can pay your way into the US. your access WILL NOT be granted.No, everyone does not try to come here legally. Also, if the US doesn't want you in their little citizen fan club, then that's just too bad.


you guys are just malinformed. and the audacity alot of you have to make judgement and comment on the subject like you can personally see things from both angles is just pathetic.What angle? I realize that the process is a LONG one. Yeah, not everyone gets approved. Such is life. I'll shed a single tear for you if it helps to sooth your personal suffering. However, the fact the process is long and hard does not make it okay to bypass it all together.


i have a much better Idea... Ran, Paul, and Japanracing (at the same time)... vs me.. in a no rules bare knuckle battle... if i lose... i leave for mexico. lets start off small... you beleive in this change so much... you know since illegal is illegal... do your part... get me to go home you bunch of finger pointing pussies.

come see the skills Mexico City, L.A. and Bankhead have blessed me with.Personal call-outs again? I'm sure it swells your cojones to throw out challenges that you know will be unanswered.

[4dmin]

these f*ck faces think its a week long process... trust me... EVERYONE tries to come here legally.. we were all denied.. without a huge bank account to prove you can pay your way into the US. your access WILL NOT be granted.

the original Coyotes (crossing the border guides) were none other than americans.

you guys are just malinformed. and the audacity alot of you have to make judgement and comment on the subject like you can personally see things from both angles is just pathetic.


i have a much better Idea... Ran, Paul, and Japanracing (at the same time)... vs me.. in a no rules bare knuckle battle... if i lose... i leave for mexico. lets start off small... you beleive in this change so much... you know since illegal is illegal... do your part... get me to go home you bunch of finger pointing pussies.

come see the skills Mexico City, L.A. and Bankhead have blessed me with.


bahhhhhhhhhhhhh ok... why would we do that? ran/japanracing/i all need our lawns cut :lmfao:

[itsjustdee]

interesting...

[The Ninja]

Of course if a caveman can't beat you at your game, he'll just beat you with his club.

[thinkfast®]

hey is it racist that I hire only all american white boys to hedge the lawn and manicure it ever so neatly

thats not racial is it, I mean I do look out the window at times and chuckle, just want to run that by you guys

[Ran]

hey is it racist that I hire only all american white boys to hedge the lawn and manicure it ever so neatly

thats not racial is it, I mean I do look out the window at times and chuckle, just want to run that by you guysAt least you provide some form of balance to the stereotype. lol

[4dmin]

hey is it racist that I hire only all american white boys to hedge the lawn and manicure it ever so neatly

thats not racial is it, I mean I do look out the window at times and chuckle, just want to run that by you guys

its cool man... i'm an equal opportunity h8ter. since this thread went to **** anyone know any racial jokes??? :cheers:

[thinkfast®]

this just in Paul is a douchebag

[Ran]

Of course if a caveman can't beat you at your game, he'll just beat you with his club.Interesting quote. lol

Also, there was a good point in that message you sent me. I'd rep you back, but I gotta spread it around some first. :cheers:

[thinkfast®]

hey ran you two should **** and get it over with

[Ran]

hey ran you two should **** and get it over withWhile I appreciate the notion, I think I'll pass as I prefer the female persuasion. :goodjob:

[Spectic Tank]

these f*ck faces think its a week long process... trust me... EVERYONE tries to come here legally.. we were all denied.. without a huge bank account to prove you can pay your way into the US. your access WILL NOT be granted.



I didn't get accepted to Harvard...does that mean I should just start showing up to class?

[Ran]

I didn't get accepted to Harvard...does that mean I should just start showing up to class?Hells yea! Be sure to eat at the cafeteria and use the nurse station too! Keep in mind that you'll have to study twice as hard since you're not really a student tho. Maybe if you do that, they won't throw you out.

[Spectic Tank]

Hells yea! Be sure to eat at the cafeteria and use the nurse station too! Keep in mind that you'll have to study twice as hard since you're not really a student tho. Maybe if you do that, they won't throw you out.

Throw me out?!?! ****, after about 2 semster's I'm gonna demand I be made a student!!!

[The Ninja]

/\ Bwuahahaha. Thats pretty funny.

[PSINXS]

It's not a matter of being born here. It's a matter of following the laws and regulations of an established nation. It's also a matter in which a nation should adjust and enforce it's laws to protect it's stance and people.

major contradiction in your beliefs. Under present law you said earlier deport the kid born on US soil because parents were illegal. our laws say born in us you are a us citizen.

make up your mind.

[Ran]

major contradiction in your beliefs. Under present law you said earlier deport the kid born on US soil because parents were illegal. our laws say born in us you are a us citizen.

make up your mind.No, I accept the fact that we should enforce the current law that is in effect. However, at the same time, I do believe that the law needs to be revised. Perhaps my wording was off in the initial post. :)

[The Ninja]

major contradiction in your beliefs. Under present law you said earlier deport the kid born on US soil because parents were illegal. our laws say born in us you are a us citizen.

make up your mind.

I believe that was in response to illegals coming here and producing kids, then allowing the kids to be legal citizens, while the parents are deported. I think this should change, and the kids should be deported as well.

[The Ninja]

ランさん日本語わかりますか？

Hello?

[PSINXS]

I believe that was in response to illegals coming here and producing kids, then allowing the kids to be legal citizens, while the parents are deported. I think this should change, and the kids should be deported as well.
according to US law, born on our soil, you are an american. Which is where Ran contradicted himself.

do i think it should change? Nope. The child didnt choose where it was born. Parents should be deported, child up for adoption. That child can have a better life here which is why illegals are here to begin with. Or the parents should be given an ultimatum, keep your baby and go back to mexico, or they go back and the child stays.

A loving mother would suck it up and leave.

[The Ninja]

I completely understand where you are coming from, my opinion obviously differs though. I think there should be no question about it. The child should be deported along with the parents.

[SL65AMG]

major contradiction in your beliefs. Under present law you said earlier deport the kid born on US soil because parents were illegal. our laws say born in us you are a us citizen.

make up your mind.


i think if you are born on this soil by legal parents then you are therefore legal.
if you are born on this soil by illegal parents you are also an illegal. end of discussion.

[The Ninja]

i think if you are born on this soil by legal parents then you are therefore legal.
if you are born on this soil by illegal parents you are also an illegal. end of discussion

:goodjob::goodjob::goodjob:

[Ran]

according to US law, born on our soil, you are an american. Which is where Ran contradicted himself.I hope my previous post cleared up that misconception.


do i think it should change? Nope. The child didnt choose where it was born. Parents should be deported, child up for adoption. That child can have a better life here which is why illegals are here to begin with. Or the parents should be given an ultimatum, keep your baby and go back to mexico, or they go back and the child stays.

A loving mother would suck it up and leave.Sure, the child didn't choose where to be born, the parents did. However, that child should be the responsibility of parents. When the parents are sent home, the child should go with them. There's no sense in overflooding orphanages with children that shouldn't be there in the first place. I've no sympathy for "it wasn't the child's choice" rationalization. Had the parents not come illegally in the first place, then there wouldn't have been an issue to begin with. The child is the parent's responsibility and, in this case, the parent's burden.

[SL65AMG]

I hope my previous post cleared up that misconception.

Sure, the child didn't choose where to be born, the parents did. However, that child should be the responsibility of parents. When the parents are sent home, the child should go with them. There's no sense in overflooding orphanages with children that shouldn't be there in the first place. I've no sympathy for "it wasn't the child's choice" rationalization. Had the parents not come illegally in the first place, then there wouldn't have been an issue to begin with. The child is the parent's responsibility and, in this case, the parent's burden.


i understand that this brings up a WHOLE nother can of ****ing worms, but if an illegal immigrant can choose, and have the right to, have her child on US soil, why cant a legal us citizen(mother) choose whether she has the child at all????

[Ran]

i understand that this brings up a WHOLE nother can of ****ing worms, but if an illegal immigrant can choose, and have the right to, have her child on US soil, why cant a legal us citizen(mother) choose whether she has the child at all????I'd rather not get that far off subject. The abortion topic is horrendous enough as it is without the immigration bit taking part. ;)

[The Ninja]

Yea.....immigration != abortion

[The Ninja]

ランさん日本語わかりますか？

Hello?

Don't ignore it ran....you *****!

[Ran]

Don't ignore it ran....you *****!Romanize it for me man. My work comp doesn't register Japanese text. All I get is blocks.

[The Ninja]

Nihongo, wakarimasu ka? (original txt)

Nanigo hanasemasu ka? Waee-jiten to Eewa-jiten o tsukaimasu ka?

[Ran]

Nihongo, wakarimasu ka? (original txt)I understand a fair share when I got time to think. Just jumping in conversation gets me confused though. I don't really have enough time to use it so that it retains in my head. Sucks, but I'm trying. :(


Nanigo hanasemasu ka? Waee-jiten to Eewa-jiten o tsukaimasu ka?Right now I'm stuck with English as I can only speak a handful of Japanese. Just enough to get by, so I need to keep studying. I only actually use it at the Japanese market or bookstore so it's very seldom.

Sorry if you wanted me to reply in Japanese, my work comp sucks and I'm far too tired / lazy to a reply any right now. :doh:

[The Ninja]

Ah...soo desu ne.

I feel you, Japanese market?? Where? And what bookstore do you speak to the clerk in Japanese?

No prob if you don't respond in Jap. I was just curious if you understood/spoke it. I'm studying myself, so I'm right along there with you. I too am stuck with English, lol.

Rising sun POWA!
http://marshall.csu.edu.au/Marshalls/html/Flags_and_Seals/Flag-Japan-Naval.gif

[WickedIXMR]

speedmonkey says, "thats what i thought you bunch of pu.ssies."

[Ran]

Ah...soo desu ne.

I feel you, Japanese market?? Where? And what bookstore do you speak to the clerk in Japanese?

No prob if you don't respond in Jap. I was just curious if you understood/spoke it. I'm studying myself, so I'm right along there with you. I too am stuck with English, lol.

Rising sun POWA!
http://marshall.csu.edu.au/Marshalls/html/Flags_and_Seals/Flag-Japan-Naval.gifOn the corner of US-41 and Windy Hill (off I-75) you'll find Boomer's Adult Club. Right behind that, you'll find:

Umezono's (Authentic Japanese restaurant. Real stuff, no bullsh*t. Cheap too.)
Tomato's (Japanese market store)
Japan Books (Japanese book-store & coffee shop)

All three are owned by the same people and they're all Japanese. Extremely friendly people.

If you want to meet up sometime and try to work on the language bit, PM me and we'll set something up. With the girlfriend working the weekends, I'm bored as hell anyway. lol


speedmonkey says, "thats what i thought you bunch of pu.ssies."Looks like he finally got on Paul's nerves enough to get banned. I'm not surprised, but I had hoped to reach some form of resolution with him. Although I don't suspect that we would have.

[Maniaç]

People couldn't shut him up, so they just decided to ban him huh? Sad.

[Ran]

People couldn't shut him up, so they just decided to ban him huh? Sad.I've no problem with anybody expressing an opinion on a subject, but he was in no way going about it properly. I'm pretty sure that it was his presentation, rather than his belief, that got him banned.

[Spectic Tank]

People couldn't shut him up, so they just decided to ban him huh? Sad.

You can't argue with stupid people...they bring you down to their level and beat you with experience.

He wasn't really making a point...he was just talkin ****.

[Maniaç]

I've no problem with anybody expressing an opinion on a subject, but he was in no way going about it properly. I'm pretty sure that it was his presentation, rather than his belief, that got him banned.Well im sure if you were having to try to argue with acouple of kids who can't see the reality of this, I too wouldn't be replying with sweet and cute words. Either way, he can suck a cock for all I care. About fucking time!

[quickdodge®]

tell me black man..... whats does "BOFUM" mean?

I don't which ***** I wanna **** so just give me bofum(both of them). Later, QD.

[Ran]

Well im sure if you were having to try to argue with acouple of kids who can't see the reality of this, I too wouldn't be replying with sweet and cute words. Either way, he can suck a cock for all I care. About fucking time!I'm not sure, but I think you just called me a kid. :thinking:

Either way, I posted my perception and belief on the subject and he went off on me, as well as a number of other members. The complete substance of his argument was being proud and headstrong in what illegal immigrants are doing. If someone is proud of being wrong about something, then they need to be corrected in one form or another.

Having looked at SM's history, he doesn't seem to contribute very much to the site. At least, not in a positive manner. I agree with you, as I've no argument in seeing members like that being removed.

[Maniaç]

Thats cute, ran.

Now that the thread starter is banned, the only thing left to do is to lock this thread.

[Ran]

Thats cute, ran.lol, hater


Now that the thread starter is banned, the only thing left to do is to lock this thread.:stupid:

[Spectic Tank]

DO SOME ****ING RESEARCH... DONT REPEAT WHAT MOMMY DADDY OR THE TV TELL YOU AND ACCEPT IT IMMEDIATELY. QUESTION EVERYTHING. AS AMERICAN UNGRATEFUL ****S WE ALL HAVE TO REALIZE THAT THE ONLY REASON WE CAN EAT FOOD TODAY... IS ONLY BECAUSE SOMEONE SOMEWHERE ELSE CANT


Myths about Immigrants,
Welfare, and the Economy

http://www.lipmagazine.org/images/DropCap_A.gifs for immigrant use of welfare benefits, undocumented workers and their families are not eligible for cash welfare or food stamps. They are only eligible for emergency medical assistance, prenatal care and educational benefits, all of which are considered worth providing so as to reduce health emergencies, epidemics and the social problems associated with lack of schooling.

In fact, a proper analysis of welfare receipt rates shows that immigrants are not more likely than native-born residents to receive welfare. Excluding emergency refugees (who are eligible for several types of assistance in virtually any country to which they escape), recent immigrants receive public aid at lower rates than the native-born and immigrant use of welfare has been decreasing for over twenty years.

Contrary to common perception, today’s immigrants (largely of color) are actually less likely to receive assistance than were the European immigrants of the early 1900s. Over half of all welfare recipients in 1909 were immigrants, and these immigrants were three times more likely to receive assistance than the native-born.

As for the cost of immigration to the public sector, rather than draining taxpayer coffers, immigrants actually contribute positively to the economic health of the United States; indeed, recent immigrants create a net surplus to the public sector of nearly $30 billion annually, according to the Urban Institute.

Data from New York State—with the second largest immigrant population in the nation—shows that the foreign born population there pays about $18 billion in taxes each year, with a per capita tax payment that is hardly distinguishable from their native born counterparts. Even those immigrants who are in New York illegally (only 16% of immigrants in the state) pay over $1 billion annually in taxes.

In California—home to 43% of illegal immigrants in the U.S.—undocumented workers contribute approximately seven percent of the state’s economic product: roughly $63 billion annually. According to a study by researchers at UCLA, the gross economic contribution by each illegal immigrant to the economy of California was nearly $45,000 per year.

Given that the average undocumented worker receives very low wages—typically less than $10,000 annually—this means that even with paltry social service benefits available to these immigrants, the net transfer of income is exactly the opposite of that implied by immigrant bashers. Instead of the state and nation subsidizing immigrants, it is more accurate to say that immigrants subsidize the economy and the companies for which they work by performing low-wage labor that is worth at least four times more, on average, than what they earn from income and welfare combined.

The study most often cited to “prove” the high cost of immigrants relative to the taxes they pay was conducted by Donald Huddle, of Rice University, on behalf of the anti-immigration group, Carrying Capacity Network. Yet further analysis of the Huddle study by researchers at the Urban Institute revealed several flaws which undermine its conclusions.

Doesn't copying and pasting some article you found on the internet COMPLETELY go against your initial statement?

[quickdodge®]

I bet you would be super extra nice in real life, and not even bring up any illegal jokes or your problems towards them on real life. Am I right?

I'll honestly tell you that you're not right, Alex. Paul and I were the only two white dudes(consistent) amongst about 10 or so Hispanic folks that played soccer on many occasions and we were all over making racial jokes and everything. As much as I've been at events that Paul was at, he's always said the same thing offline as on. That's just to clarify that. Lolol. Later, QD.

[Ran]

Doesn't copying and pasting some article you found on the internet COMPLETELY go against your initial statement?Asking a question to someone that can't reply is a little self-defeating isn't it?

:lmfao:

[Spectic Tank]

Asking a question to someone that can't reply is a little self-defeating isn't it?

:lmfao:

He'll be back...I have patience

Not to mention I only quoted to prove that he had no point to begin with, and obviously only started this thread to talk ****.

[The Ninja]

On the corner of US-41 and Windy Hill (off I-75) you'll find Boomer's Adult Club. Right behind that, you'll find:

Umezono's (Authentic Japanese restaurant. Real stuff, no bullsh*t. Cheap too.)
Tomato's (Japanese market store)
Japan Books (Japanese book-store & coffee shop)

All three are owned by the same people and they're all Japanese. Extremely friendly people.

If you want to meet up sometime and try to work on the language bit, PM me and we'll set something up. With the girlfriend working the weekends, I'm bored as hell anyway. lol

Looks like he finally got on Paul's nerves enough to get banned. I'm not surprised, but I had hoped to reach some form of resolution with him. Although I don't suspect that we would have.

Sure thing! I can sneak you some material from my jap class if you want, XD. :goodjob:

[quickdodge®]

People couldn't shut him up, so they just decided to ban him huh? Sad.

Who is banned? Later, QD.

[Vteckidd]

the point is ... most of them do.


and STILL do not have priviliges the rest of the tax payers do. why not?
cause they are here illegally.

Look its simple, get past what they contribute to the economy blah blah blah.

There are rules setup to be a citizen. Illegal immigrants dont care about those rules. They cross the border not caring and risk their lives to come here for a better life.

However , look at the big picture. Why are they coming here? they are leaving a country that is so poor, with a government so corrupt that they have no other choice. Why wont they clean up mexico? why wont they invest in their economy and infrastructure, why ?

Bottom line is if we dont do anything this country will get to the point of bursting at the seams with a population that is just too much for the land we have.

What illegals want is the SAME RIGHTS AS NATURAL BORN CITIZENS without doing any work for it. Just because they come from a poor country we are supposed to feel sorry and hand over everything.

Come from a poor country and come here illegally, sure heres your citizenship.

What if the rest of society was like this? what if everyone started getting $80,000 a year if they came from a POOR part of the country?

Now im not saying the US didnt turn a blind eye for awhile because their labor was cheap, but the point is, its gotten to a point where it has to stop. we gotta draw the line somewhere, especially after 9/11

[Ran]

Now im not saying the US didnt turn a blind eye for awhile because their labor was cheap, but the point is, its gotten to a point where it has to stop. we gotta draw the line somewhere, especially after 9/11I followed you up to this point. What relevance does 9/11 have to the initial subject? Money? Sneaky terrorists? :???:

Just curious as to why you threw that in there.

[Vteckidd]

I followed you up to this point. What relevance does 9/11 have to the initial subject? Money? Sneaky terrorists? :???:

Just curious as to why you threw that in there.
Mexicans arent the only illegal immigrants.

If mexicans can cross the border so easily an we do nothing to stop it, dont you think other ethnicities will try that route as well?

Hell alot of known terrorists were coming in from canada too cause it was the easiest point of entry

[SL65AMG]

I followed you up to this point. What relevance does 9/11 have to the initial subject? Money? Sneaky terrorists? :???:

Just curious as to why you threw that in there.

i guess you dont realize how mant TERRORISTS are actually in this country. do you have any idea of how they got here? if you guessed the mexican/us border you're correct

[C22H19N3O4]

i guess you dont realize how mant TERRORISTS are actually in this country. do you have any idea of how they got here? if you guessed the mexican/us border you're correct

Are you going to post the source of your info? Omit right-wing nut job sites.

BTW, which border did he \/\/\/\/\/\/ cross?

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a85/quick_dodge2/12131201-12131205-slarge.jpg

[quickdodge®]

if you guessed the mexican/us border you're correct

I don't think I'd be too far off to say that about zero came here via the Mexican border. Aside from the ones already here, my guess would be by air. Later, QD.

[Vteckidd]

Im not saying the 9/11 terrorists came through the mexican border. But future ones COULD.
These people arent stupid, they know our weaknesses, they know our strengths.

My point is that if we continue to turn a blind eye to illegal immigration, we will be worse off in the LONG RUN. We need to do something about it NOW. If we do nothing, our population will continue to grow, this issue will get WORSE not BETTER, and we open ourselves up for our enemies to cross into our country.

[4dmin]

People couldn't shut him up, so they just decided to ban him huh? Sad.

http://www.scripting.com/images/archiveScriptingCom/2004/02/24/theDonald.jpg

actually your one post away from joining him.

[quickdodge®]

http://www.scripting.com/images/archiveScriptingCom/2004/02/24/theDonald.jpg

actually your one post away from joining him.

Oh yeah, and completely side-step my backing you. Thanks a lot, lolol. Later, QD.

[SL65AMG]

Are you going to post the source of your info? Omit right-wing nut job sites.

BTW, which border did he \/\/\/\/\/\/ cross?

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a85/quick_dodge2/12131201-12131205-slarge.jpg


http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=57289

http://lonewacko.com/blog/archives/001712.html


some that i found. youve got to be retarded to believe that it has not and will not continue to happen.... unless something is done about border security. although that does leave the air open.

i dont think its impossible to keep the crazies out but their numbers CAN be limited

[4dmin]

sweet sara silverman show is on illegals tonight :goodjob:

[C22H19N3O4]

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=57289

http://lonewacko.com/blog/archives/001712.html


some that i found. youve got to be retarded to believe that it has not and will not continue to happen.... unless something is done about border security. although that does leave the air open.

i dont think its impossible to keep the crazies out but their numbers CAN be limited

I asked you to omit nut job sites. Lonewacko.com seems a bit shady. Your original statement leads people to believe most terrorists cross via the US/Mexico border. Again, post the source/data that verify that claim. Posting a few articles about possible terrrorists caught along the border don't fit the bill.

Didn't you learn anything in high school? Don't answer that. :rolleyes:

[4dmin]

yo C22H19N3O4 your done w/ pharm school... you in residency or working fulltime?

[SL65AMG]

I asked you to omit nut job sites. Lonewacko.com seems a bit shady. Your original statement leads people to believe most terrorists cross via the US/Mexico border. Again, post the source/data that verify that claim. Posting a few articles about possible terrrorists caught along the border don't fit the bill.

Didn't you learn anything in high school? Don't answer that. :rolleyes:

i never said it was limited to only the mexican border but i mentioned that one specifically since thats where most of our said "illegals" are comming from.... trying to stay within the topic
:goodjob:

do you think that they are not crossing into our borders???

[CRXchic19]

look at it from thier point of view....

you drop everything everything you have ever owned, leaving family, friends, your life, your cuture behind, just to come and work in a country that has no problem stating that they dont want you here, while at the same time having less rights than in your own country and sometimes being treated as if you were some kind of vermin that has to be exterminated. some come here because they have to, most of you dont know what ACTUAL poverty is, others because they want to. the ones that work hard i have mad respect for. but either way we are all human, and we should all have the same rights and be respected, no matter WHERE we were born.


**** is gonna change anyway, google the Amero

[The Yousef]

look at it from thier point of view....

you drop everything everything you have ever owned, leaving family, friends, your life, your cuture behind, just to come and work in a country that has no problem stating that they dont want you here, while at the same time having less rights than in your own country and sometimes being treated as if you were some kind of vermin that has to be exterminated. some come here because they have to, most of you dont know what ACTUAL poverty is, others because they want to. the ones that work hard i have mad respect for. but either way we are all human, and we should all have the same rights and be respected, no matter WHERE we were born.


**** is gonna change anyway, google the Amero

i know what actual poverty is, it's called India. My parents went through the proper legal channels to get over here legally and become citizens themselves. I respect the hard work illegal immigrants go through, but they are breaking the law and they need to go through the legal channels to gain access to this country and all the benefits therein.

[SL65AMG]

**** is gonna change anyway, google the Amero

god help us if that ever happens. our rights and constitution(synonymous) as we know it will definitely change and some of them will cease to exist.

do your research on the amero, detailed research, and then tell me what you find. i think you'd be surprised.

[japan4racing]

god damn..what is so hard to understand about this subject...they are illegal. christ this thread has gone to ****.

no one that has posted in this thread is denying the fact that most illegals are hard workers and could def add value to our society. there are some bad apples but the bottom line is that most of them really want to work hard and be something here. but the bottom line is they are illegal. even if it takes 48 ****ing years to get legalized at least get the ball rolling. untill then you are a criminal and you need to go back home. i dont care how hard you work, how bad you want to be here, or how poor you are back home. untill you pay the same dues i pay you dont deserve anything that legal citizens get. the only thing you deserve is a ride back to mexico. anyone that cant see the problem here is ****ing blind. if you cant understand what is going on in this country then you need to take astep back...or maybe you just dont care....i guess its true..ignorance is bliss