For all of you Obama supporters....

[SL65AMG]

Definitely worth 1000 words! God save us!!!




Respect
Senator Barack Obama, Governor Bill Richardson, Senator Hillary Clinton and Ruth Harkin stand during the national anthem.
Barack Hussein Obama's photo (that's his real name)......the article said he REFUSED TO NOT ONLY PUT HIS HAND ON HIS HEART DURING THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE, BUT REFUSED TO SAY THE PLEDGE.....how in the hell can a man like this expect to be our next Commander-in-Chief????

[Hundo®]

everyone in that picture is a waste of life.

if you support obama or hillary, may you burn in hell when our country burns to the ground from the mass amount of fail this country will go through.

[SampaGuy]

that might be a little extreme on his part and probably a bad move, but keeping the church out of government ftw!

[Magnus213]

Yeah! Go Bush! If only he could serve another term instead of these liberal America-hating commies!

http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/anthem.asp

Scroll all the way down.

[cactusEG]

my brothers GF showed me this yesterday.... very sad !

[Sack Attack]

I dont really get into the whole presidential debate but obama is a ****ing moron.

I'm not a very godly person, Not religious at allbut damn, How do you pull prayers and such out of school? If people dont want to participate ok, But I say leave it the way it was. You pull god out of peoples life and everything is a failure.

[TIGERJC]

I dont really get into the whole presidential debate but obama is a ****ing moron.

I'm not a very godly person, Not religious at allbut damn, How do you pull prayers and such out of school? If people dont want to participate ok, But I say leave it the way it was. You pull god out of peoples life and everything is a failure.
I disagree with that :no:

[TheSnail]

I dont believe in God, but I would engage in something like the anthem just over tradition especially if I was in his shoes. I celebrate christmas but hell it wasnt but 5years ago that I realized it was christmas because of christ, where before I thought it was just present day. After I found out I been celebrating Jesus day all my life, I continued to celebrate Jesus/Present day, not religiously but traditionally.

[Evil Goat]

that might be a little extreme on his part and probably a bad move, but keeping the church out of government ftw!


i dont see where separation of church and state have anything to do with this


my only answer to this would be to know your country, know whats expected, and that by showing he is unwilling to pledge allegiance to this country, which should be considered a gift imo, and show outwardly that he is down for us then he is a traitor of the literal since, if he doesnt pledge allegiance to this country who does he pledge allegiance too? i say **** him....


and just for reading pleasure, taken from the United States Code...


"During rendition of the national anthem when the flag is displayed, all present except those in uniform should stand at attention facing the flag with the right hand over the heart. Men not in uniform should remove their headdress with their right hand and hold it at the left shoulder, the hand being over the heart. -- United States Code, Title 36, Chapter 10, Sec. 171"


and b/c i know people are going to ask....the United States Code (U.S.C.) is a compilation and codification of the general and permanent federal law of the United States.

[TheSnail]

Obama sounds too much like Osama any. We cant be having no foriegn UN bombing the white house over them though they heard Osamas been staying there.

[TheSnail]

Cant tell me none of yall thought in yalls head at one point that obama sounds like osama. Am I right or am I right?

[The Ninja]

I dont believe in God, but I would engage in something like the anthem just over tradition especially if I was in his shoes. I celebrate christmas but hell it wasnt but 5years ago that I realized it was christmas because of christ, where before I thought it was just present day. After I found out I been celebrating Jesus day all my life, I continued to celebrate Jesus/Present day, not religiously but traditionally.

lol @ "Present Day" :lmfao:

[Jecht]

Lmao @ Present day

I'm going to call it that from now on.

[SL65AMG]

is he saying that he doesnt support america. is he saying that he doesnt believe in our freedoms.

those pics on the bottom of that other link say that he had his hand over his heart for the national anthem. theres a difference. the national anthem is our country's "Song". the pledge of allegiance is your word that you will protect your freedoms and your country and your rights, which the flag is a symbol of.


**** liberals
**** socialism
**** globalization



FREEDOMS FTMFW!!!!

GO RON PAUL

[95ludestr]

from that angle, he sort of looks like a light skinned denzel washington. hahahah

[Bballjamal]

stfu.......everyone dissing him are probably the same people who thought Bush was the ****. gtfo

If the pledge of allegance is so great, we wouldn't have stopped doin it in ****in elementary.



Cant tell me none of yall thought in yalls head at one point that obama sounds like osama. Am I right or am I right?

Are you gay or are you homo? :gay:


I remember hearing some dumbass woman say she wouldn't vote for him merely b/c his name was too close to a terroists. This country is completely full of idiots. I can't believe over 20% still support our current illiterate sounding president.



Yeah! Go Bush! If only he could serve another term instead of these liberal America-hating commies!

http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/anthem.asp

Scroll all the way down.

Like this mofo.....lmao

Why ride Bush's nuts for so long. Do you think you're going to get a ****riders medal of honor?

[The_ CaneCorso]

Definitely worth 1000 words! God save us!!!




Respect
Senator Barack Obama, Governor Bill Richardson, Senator Hillary Clinton and Ruth Harkin stand during the national anthem.
Barack Hussein Obama's photo (that's his real name)......the article said he REFUSED TO NOT ONLY PUT HIS HAND ON HIS HEART DURING THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE, BUT REFUSED TO SAY THE PLEDGE.....how in the hell can a man like this expect to be our next Commander-in-Chief????
What a fag

[SL65AMG]

stfu.......everyone dissing him are probably the same people who thought Bush was the ****. gtfo

If the pledge of allegance is so great, we wouldn't have stopped doin it in ****in elementary.




Are you gay or are you homo? :gay:


I remember hearing some dumbass woman say she wouldn't vote for him merely b/c his name was too close to a terroists. This country is completely full of idiots. I can't believe over 20% still support our current illiterate sounding president.




Like this mofo.....lmao

Why ride Bush's nuts for so long. Do you think you're going to get a ****riders medal of honor?


idk about you but i said the pledge every day till graduation. you must have dropped out before 6th grade.... :doh:

[SL65AMG]

What a fag
:idb: :idb: :idb: :gay: :gay: :gay:
DIAF noob.

[Sledlude]

idk about you but i said the pledge every day till graduation. you must have dropped out before 6th grade.... :doh:

i dont care about his name. hes a damn muslim.... = not my president.

You are a F*cking idiot; probably the biggest one on these boards. F8cking moron, go read a book you uneducated piece of shyte.

[BB6dohcvtec]

idk about you but i said the pledge every day till graduation. you must have dropped out before 6th grade.... :doh:

i dont care about his name. hes a damn muslim.... = not my president.

mmm damn how old are you?? because i def. stopped saying the pledge after 7th grade and i graduated high school in 03.

[VooDooXII]

Barack Hussein Obama's photo (that's his real name)

This has been established, and why is that such a big deal? My middle name's Bin Laden...are you going to look at me any differently?

I don't understand why he wouldn't say the pledge though...something doesn't seem right about that.

If you're going to let a thing like this be a deciding factor in your decision...then I think we have a lot more to worry about. Then again, since you're posting this, I think you've made your decision already. You're taking this as another reason not to support this candidate.

I don't like this about a lot of people these days. Seems like they don't care as much about how good the candidate they support are...but simply how much dirt they can dig up on the other guys.

I'm still sort of taken aback at that, but it's pretty trivial compared to what atrocities our current Commander in Cheif has committed.

As for the Pledge of Allegance, I've stood up with my hand on my heart for it...I don't remember actually reciting it after 5th grade though.


i dont care about his name. hes a damn muslim.... = not my president.
This has to be the most ignorant thing I've ever seen you post.

[Crazy Asian]

really? Whats your fulll name.

[VooDooXII]

really? Whats your fulll name.

Saddam Osama Bin Muhammad Bin 'Awad Bin Laden Hussein

:goodjob:

[Crazy Asian]

BS!! THAT AINT NO NAME!! THATS A NAME FOR A CITY!!!!!!

[VooDooXII]

Actually...take away the Saddam and the Hussein and that's actually Osama Bin Laden's full name.

[Jimmy B]

everyone in that picture is a waste of life.



+9 sir!

this country was FOUNDED on christian faiths... KEEP IT THAT WAY!!!
yes, there are other faiths in this country, and i respect them.. but the way WE founded the country was on christian beliefs, i say there still should be prayer in school, and say "...UNDER GOD..." also..

forget the liberals, thats why ther are so many retarted emo people in this country

[.blank cd]

Im just glad the big oil family will be out of office for good! gas is gonna go back down, you watch!!

[VooDooXII]

Hinduism does not promote close-mindedness at ALL. It's one of the most open and accepting religions out there.

I think faith is a pretty bad reason to base one's vote on, if it's just faith and faith alone. I see no connection between a person's faith and their ability to lead a country. Well...that's a stretch. I see some connection, because if a person is of a certain faith, it is implied that they have a certain set of morals and values that they follow. People respect and admire that they have these morals and values. However, just because someone is of a certain faith, it doesn't mean that they automatically practice these morals and have said values. Soon enough, it seems like the faith is just there for namesake. I mean, look at our current president. He is a man of faith, but SO MANY of his actions and decisions have led us to believe otherwise.

EDIT: Mr. Org...where did your post go? That was good stuff.

[.blank cd]

Hinduism does not promote close-mindedness at ALL. It's one of the most open and accepting religions out there.

I think faith is a pretty bad reason to base one's vote on, if it's just faith and faith alone. I see no connection between a person's faith and their ability to lead a country. Well...that's a stretch. I see some connection, because if a person is of a certain faith, it is implied that they have a certain set of morals and values that they follow. People respect and admire that they have these morals and values. However, just because someone is of a certain faith, it doesn't mean that they automatically practice these morals and have said values. Soon enough, it seems like the faith is just there for namesake. I mean, look at our current president. He is a man of faith, but SO MANY of his actions and decisions have led us to believe otherwise.

EDIT: Mr. Org...where did your post go? That was good stuff.probably deleted by the rep ninja:ninja:

[Evil Goat]

Hinduism does not promote close-mindedness at ALL. It's one of the most open and accepting religions out there.

I think faith is a pretty bad reason to base one's vote on, if it's just faith and faith alone. I see no connection between a person's faith and their ability to lead a country. Well...that's a stretch. I see some connection, because if a person is of a certain faith, it is implied that they have a certain set of morals and values that they follow. People respect and admire that they have these morals and values. However, just because someone is of a certain faith, it doesn't mean that they automatically practice these morals and have said values. Soon enough, it seems like the faith is just there for namesake. I mean, look at our current president. He is a man of faith, but SO MANY of his actions and decisions have led us to believe otherwise.

EDIT: Mr. Org...where did your post go? That was good stuff.


my apologies man, i deleted the post b/c i just didnt want to open that bag of worms....i see what youre saying though, but my religion more or less dictates my beliefs, i am seriously conservative, its just the way i was raised, and now being out on my own with my own family and having time to sit back and look at what i really believe in and tackle the hard main things people look or worry at i see that some things me any my parents/family dont agree on, but for the most part my core beliefs and convictions have not changed and it makes sense for me to look for someone of like faith and then try to match my beliefs with theirs and go with the best match from there

[VooDooXII]

my apologies man, i deleted the post b/c i just didnt want to open that bag of worms....i see what youre saying though, but my religion more or less dictates my beliefs, i am seriously conservative, its just the way i was raised, and now being out on my own with my own family and having time to sit back and look at what i really believe in and tackle the hard main things people look or worry at i see that some things me any my parents/family dont agree on, but for the most part my core beliefs and convictions have not changed

Oh well, I enjoy a debate every now and then.

I mean, I disagree with a lot...but I can respect that you aren't just blindly following. As long as people can support what they say and know what they're talking about, I'll definitely keep my ears open. I like to know what people think and why.

[Evil Goat]

Dammit, I enjoy a debate.


same here man, its just a debate i dont have time to finish, +reps coming your way

[Bballjamal]

Also, did he not do the pledge because it says "Under God"? I mean, I had my rant because it seems every good guy that pops up who seems able to whole-heartedly run this country, people start to pick out the dumbest **** to knock him so some other person who they really know nothing about politically (maybe perhaps only the main points which that candidate stresses) can possibly win office and help America into another struggle of sorts. Do your full research on your canidates(sp. lol)

[JConner]

**** everyone in that picture. COLBERT FOR PRESIDENT!

[Lizbiz101]

Ya'll don't hate the playa hate the game, that's just his gangsta comin out a lil bit. Let him be. lol

[VooDooXII]

**** everyone in that picture. COLBERT FOR PRESIDENT!

:werd:

Hahaha

[SL65AMG]

This has been established, and why is that such a big deal? My middle name's Bin Laden...are you going to look at me any differently?


i dont care what his name is, or yours, its irrelevant. i just copied and pasted the e-mail i got into the post.

[SL65AMG]

Hinduism does not promote close-mindedness at ALL. It's one of the most open and accepting religions out there.

I think faith is a pretty bad reason to base one's vote on, if it's just faith and faith alone. I see no connection between a person's faith and their ability to lead a country. Well...that's a stretch. I see some connection, because if a person is of a certain faith, it is implied that they have a certain set of morals and values that they follow. People respect and admire that they have these morals and values. However, just because someone is of a certain faith, it doesn't mean that they automatically practice these morals and have said values. Soon enough, it seems like the faith is just there for namesake. I mean, look at our current president. He is a man of faith, but SO MANY of his actions and decisions have led us to believe otherwise.

EDIT: Mr. Org...where did your post go? That was good stuff.

hinduism is not the same as muslim or islam...... hindus are straight.

[SL65AMG]

Ya'll don't hate the playa hate the game, that's just his gangsta comin out a lil bit. Let him be. lol


lol..... are you referring to me??? .....lololol

[TheSnail]

Are you gay or are you homo? :gay:




How is that even possible? A comment like that from someone that drives a cavalier, far as well modifies one, defies common laws, perception and sense. I almost feel honored. ;)

[VooDooXII]

i dont care what his name is, or yours, its irrelevant. i just copied and pasted the e-mail i got into the post.

Oh alright, gotcha. :goodjob:

[Bballjamal]

How is that even possible? A comment like that from someone that drives a cavalier, far as well modifies one, defies common laws, perception and sense. I almost feel honored. ;)


Holy**** batman! Another cavalier joke! Someone assasinate me please. Thats like the 1000000000x one in the 6yrs I've had it! Also, thanks for providing the correct answer to my question :lmfao:

[Kamikaze]

Yeah! Go Bush! If only he could serve another term instead of these liberal America-hating commies!

http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/anthem.asp

Scroll all the way down.

I'm sorry, but Bush gives Nixon a run for his money in the Worst President Ever Award.


You pull god out of peoples life and everything is a failure.

I agree.


stfu.......everyone dissing him are probably the same people who thought Bush was the ****. gtfo

:lmfao:


This government is completely full of idiots.

Fixed. :goodjob:


i dont care about his name. hes a damn muslim.... = not my president.

That's pretty ignorant. I sense a tad of prejudice/racism in there too.


+9 sir!

this country was FOUNDED on christian faiths... KEEP IT THAT WAY!!!
yes, there are other faiths in this country, and i respect them.. but the way WE founded the country was on christian beliefs, i say there still should be prayer in school, and say "...UNDER GOD..." also..

forget the liberals, thats why ther are so many retarted emo people in this country

Reps

[silversol]

obama is a ****ing joke! ron paul ftw!

[TheSnail]

Holy**** batman! Another cavalier joke! Someone assasinate me please. Thats like the 1000000000x one in the 6yrs I've had it! Also, thanks for providing the correct answer to my question :lmfao:


Well you could of semi upgraded to a cobalt or even a neon r/t, though you're still standing still, polishing a turd with turd internals. Thats 100000001 for you :fruit:

[Bballjamal]

Well you could of semi upgraded to a cobalt or even a neon r/t, though you're still standing still, polishing a turd with turd internals. Thats 100000001 for you :fruit:


No, I decided to stop waisting money on it and pay my way through college. :goodjob: Smarter than modding any car at this age I'd say. :D

Also, why do you still have the same old ass sig I've seen since I joined the damn site. No one even reps speedmonkey on here anymore....Move on, get a life :yes:

[TheSnail]

Well, +1 on the paying your way through college. No comment on the speedmonkey sig though.

[Bballjamal]

Well, +1 on the paying your way through college. No comment on the speedmonkey sig though.


Lol All good!

[TheSnail]

Hey Bball, I listen to 102.5 everyday, I have a sense you listen to 102.5 aswell. Am I right or just blabbering?

[TheSnail]

Time to go to sleep, truthfighter ftw, blackout -1:10hr ago

[Alan®]

It seems to me that everyone in this thread is missing the point. Obama is an AMERICAN. He is entitled to the same rights as everyone else in this country. Since he is Muslim and the pledge of allegiance includes the word god he DOES NOT HAVE TO ****ING SAY IT. PERIOD END OF STORY. Now i still agree that everyone in that picture is a bunch of ****ing morons and if hillary ever gets elected I'm moving to Europe. and as far as the stupid comment made about when bush gets out of office the price of gas will go down....LOL at you. Ever heard of OPEC moron? Until we get out of the Middle East the price of gas will probably continue to slowly go up. Because unfortunately we are uberly dependent on foreign oil. they know it and we know it and unfortunately theres nothing that we can do to fix it in the immediate future. so that comment is invalid. as far as bush being an idiot well......I'll say this employment is at an alltime low and the ecconomy is booming but yet he's an idiot? I love how all of the democratic fanidates in the first debate on CNN all had time tables for getting out of Iraq like 6months-2 years. If anyone pays attention now, none of them even talk about it because they all realize they are wrong and that the consequences for doing so now would be more catastrophic than 9/11. and if everyone thinks that Iraq is who we need to be afraid of lol look west i believe of afghanistan and then start talking

[SL65AMG]

It seems to me that everyone in this thread is missing the point. Obama is an AMERICAN. He is entitled to the same rights as everyone else in this country. Since he is Muslim and the pledge of allegiance includes the word god he DOES NOT HAVE TO ****ING SAY IT. PERIOD END OF STORY. Now i still agree that everyone in that picture is a bunch of ****ing morons and if hillary ever gets elected I'm moving to Europe. and as far as the stupid comment made about when bush gets out of office the price of gas will go down....LOL at you. Ever heard of OPEC moron? Until we get out of the Middle East the price of gas will probably continue to slowly go up. Because unfortunately we are uberly dependent on foreign oil. they know it and we know it and unfortunately theres nothing that we can do to fix it in the immediate future. so that comment is invalid. as far as bush being an idiot well......I'll say this employment is at an alltime low and the ecconomy is booming but yet he's an idiot? I love how all of the democratic fanidates in the first debate on CNN all had time tables for getting out of Iraq like 6months-2 years. If anyone pays attention now, none of them even talk about it because they all realize they are wrong and that the consequences for doing so now would be more catastrophic than 9/11. and if everyone thinks that Iraq is who we need to be afraid of lol look west i believe of afghanistan and then start talking

just fyi Bush doesnt have a goddamn thing to do with the economy. the economy can regulate itself if our govt. would just stop ****ing with it. it was designed to balance out. maybe not IMMEDIATELY like people want but it will. everyone is so NOW NOW NOW!


we will probably end up bombing Iran back to the stoneage where they belong. they dont have the responsibility to become nuclear..... all we need is a bunch of camel riders with nukes....... have you ever heard of Armageddon?? better do your research.


we went into Iraq to "stop them from getting/owning/producing(whatever) WMD's"

Iran is publicly saying that theyre making them.....



thank god for israel.....

[Frög]

lol at the this election.. bunch of wangsters..

[Alan®]

just fyi Bush doesnt have a goddamn thing to do with the economy. the economy can regulate itself if our govt. would just stop ****ing with it. it was designed to balance out. maybe not IMMEDIATELY like people want but it will. everyone is so NOW NOW NOW!


we will probably end up bombing Iran back to the stoneage where they belong. they dont have the responsibility to become nuclear..... all we need is a bunch of camel riders with nukes....... have you ever heard of Armageddon?? better do your research.


we went into Iraq to "stop them from getting/owning/producing(whatever) WMD's"

Iran is publicly saying that theyre making them.....



thank god for israel.....
Your right but economic policies created by the president can have impacts on the economy

FYI wasn't talking about Iran although thats a whole other issue. I meant east of Afghanistan sorry lol heres a map to give you a clue though

[SL65AMG]

Your right but economic policies created by the president can have impacts on the economy

FYI wasn't talking about Iran although thats a whole other issue. I meant east of Afghanistan sorry lol heres a map to give you a clue though

whats goin on in paki? man that place is a goddamn timebomb..... who blows the gasket first?

[Alan®]

if you really dont know wats going on do some research and figure it out

[SL65AMG]

if you really dont know wats going on do some research and figure it out

well.... that rather interesting..... extremists are taking over..... hmmm

[Frög]

France was smart not to go to war.. they said it would be a sh!t hole.. and they were right.. jacque chirac (French president) said that if Bush found WMD, he would publicly apologize, but he didn't think they had any.. what a sh!t hole..

[Frög]

oh and F obama and F Hillary.. socialist nazy 8itch..

[ash7]

Im just glad the big oil family will be out of office for good! gas is gonna go back down, you watch!!

...you've got to be kidding me

the price of crude oil has nothing to do with the presidency. From the oil futures reports I've been reading for the past week, I'm expecting oil to climb to 120$ a barrel before valentines day.

Don't blame George W. ...blame the freakin Saudis. If some terrorist group lights off a nuke over in those oil fields (rendering them un-useable); oil is going to live up to it's name "black gold" in the most literal sense. Our economy will not be able to take the hit from $200+ per barrel oil, and things will go downhill real quick around here. Last time i checked, the president is doing his best to STOP that from becoming reality by taking the terrorists head on, instead of being a beotch and trying to negotiate terms.

I'm not a Bush nutswinger by any stretch of the imagination. I sure didn't vote for him; and i disagree with quite a bit of what he's doing... but he is doing the right thing by fighting the terrorists straight up instead of ignoring the problem.

/rant
-jonathan

[TheProfiteer]

Hey in court if a Muslim swears the oath of truth with his hand over the bible is he still liable for lying?

Think about it.


Obama is wrong for refusing the pledge, (the whole under god thing is understandable) but you cannot run for President and refuse to pledge.

This picture will be his downfall promise you that.

[VooDooXII]

Hey in court if a Muslim swears the oath of truth with his hand over the bible is he still liable for lying?

Hmm...they should give them a Qur'an.

[TheProfiteer]

Hmm...they should give them a Qur'an.

they do not, in fact a man was held in contempt of court for refusing to swear on oath to the bible.

I personally think a Muslim president is our only ticket for avoiding the disaster that is coming in our future.

History will repeat itself, world war is imminent.

If Obamas practices and political ideas were not so ****ed up then I would have no problem with a Muslim president. Just Def not Obama.

[BKgen®]

i knew it all along... he's f*cking undercover Al-Qaeda trying to infiltrate the white house.

[1000cckiller]

everyone in that picture is a waste of life.

if you support obama or hillary, may you burn in hell when our country burns to the ground from the mass amount of fail this country will go through.you are a dumbass, because you most likely voted for Bush. Thats why we are in hell now.

[Sledlude]

+9 sir!

this country was FOUNDED on christian faiths... KEEP IT THAT WAY!!!
yes, there are other faiths in this country, and i respect them.. but the way WE founded the country was on christian beliefs, i say there still should be prayer in school, and say "...UNDER GOD..." also..

forget the liberals, thats why ther are so many retarted emo people in this country

'nuff said.

Oh, and btw, this country was founded on the values of people looking to escape religious persecution... ie looking for FREEDOM OF RELIGION. Not every Muslim is a f*cking radical, and all Muslims should not be treated like they are. Do people go around accusing you of being Timothy McVeigh? Didn't think so. Some of you people need to turn off Fox and CNN. Let's remember what America is really supposed to be about.

[Jimmy B]

'nuff said.

Oh, and btw, this country was founded on the values of people looking to escape religious persecution... ie looking for FREEDOM OF RELIGION. Not every Muslim is a f*cking radical, and all Muslims should not be treated like they are. Do people go around accusing you of being Timothy McVeigh? Didn't think so. Some of you people need to turn off Fox and CNN. Let's remember what America is really supposed to be about.

i agree.. CNN and FOX just bash whoever they can at the moment.. yes, the good ol US of A was founded on christian beliefs, and was open to all sorts of religion.. like i said, i will respect yours, my neighbors, my friends diffrent religion, and you DO have teh right to practice it at your will, but the country was founded on christian beliefs.. adn it says "...this nation under God.." now, in my opinion, its my God, the Lord Jesus Christ, but its also worded that it could be YOUR God also.. so why take it out???

if i ever get one of those dollars that dont say "in God we trust" i will throw it back at them and tell them to stop givving me monopoly money :yes:

[TicketRedBB6]

I used to like Obama until i saw this. Also, didn't he stop wearing that american flat pin that he used to always wear? Shady stuff from someone wanting to run the country. I don't really care who gets elected as long as its not Hillary.

[SampaGuy]

hes a damn muslim.... = not my president.

Like I said on that other thread, you are a ****ing dumbass.





**** liberals
**** socialism
**** globalization



Sorry to break it to you, but globalization is INEVITABLE. You can either embrace it, or you can be a close-minded retarded conservative redneck and try to fight it, though you will fail miserably.






GO RON PAUL

Ive done more research since that last thread, I wouldnt mind ron paul being president because he will get rid of the $.50/gallon tariff on Brazilian ethanol! Brazil: the next world economic superpower! LOL

[Magnus213]

Sarcasm much?


stfu.......everyone dissing him are probably the same people who thought Bush was the ****. gtfo

If the pledge of allegance is so great, we wouldn't have stopped doin it in ****in elementary.




Are you gay or are you homo? :gay:


I remember hearing some dumbass woman say she wouldn't vote for him merely b/c his name was too close to a terroists. This country is completely full of idiots. I can't believe over 20% still support our current illiterate sounding president.




Like this mofo.....lmao

Why ride Bush's nuts for so long. Do you think you're going to get a ****riders medal of honor?

['chell]

I dont believe in God, but I would engage in something like the anthem just over tradition especially if I was in his shoes. I celebrate christmas but hell it wasnt but 5years ago that I realized it was christmas because of christ, where before I thought it was just present day. After I found out I been celebrating Jesus day all my life, I continued to celebrate Jesus/Present day, not religiously but traditionally.

HTH did you make it to 20 years old and NOT know that Christmas 1) was at least a religious holiday and 2) that is was the celebration of Christ's birth??? :thinking: just really curious about that one...I know you are young, but DANG!!!

[BKgen®]

HTH did you make it to 20 years old and NOT know that Christmas 1) was at least a religious holiday and 2) that is was the celebration of Christ's birth??? :thinking: just really curious about that one...I know you are young, but DANG!!!

pics or ban.

[1000cckiller]

pics or ban.troof

[VooDooXII]

pics or ban.

She's already posted one...

...but :lmao: @ your post

[SL65AMG]

Like I said on that other thread, you are a ****ing dumbass.



Sorry to break it to you, but globalization is INEVITABLE. You can either embrace it, or you can be a close-minded retarded conservative redneck and try to fight it, though you will fail miserably.




Ive done more research since that last thread, I wouldnt mind ron paul being president because he will get rid of the $.50/gallon tariff on Brazilian ethanol! Brazil: the next world economic superpower! LOL

this waste to life isnt worth the energy that would be put into a rebuttal.

[1000cckiller]

this waste to life isnt worth the energy that would be put into a rebuttal.In a way plv is correct, because at the rate or youth is getting dumber it is possible.

['chell]

pics or ban.

lol, don't ban me...

[Reaper]

alright, after reading through this BULL****...

we ALL know this will be a never ending debate. NO one will ever be happy with the current president. It just doesn't happen.

Now, I believe that every person in that photo would run this country into the ground, ESPECIALLY Hillary.

But before I get flammed or whatever, ya'll need to know Im not for EITHER party. Ive got VERY mixed views, I believe that the Gov't was founded on the Christian faith, but I DONT see the point in neglecting other faiths, that are ALOT like the Christian faith..Ladies and Gentlemen, accept it or not judism(spelling?), Muslim, and Christianity, IS THE SAME GOD!! For the true believers they all tend to be peaceful..Then you have your hypocritical Christians, your Radical Muslims and so on and so fourth. No one will ever be happy, and it will always be that way. As far as those who dont believe in any God what so ever...you cannot deny that those religions at least set the basic morals for the country...for the most part..Im not trying to knock on those who dont believe in what I do, I respect everyones opinion/belief...(just so thats out there)

As far as the "muslim=not my president" comment..thats straight Ignorance..If you call yourself a Christian, your a damn hypocrite.

I also dont think that anyone has really shined on either party. The 2 people I think that have a Shot against Obama and HIllary...would be Ron Paul and Rudy Juliani..

The only reason I say Juliani is because of 9/11..the reason he wouldn't get it...Pre-9/11 if anyone remember he was ****in up big time..

I really dont think anyone is that great for the position of Commander and Chief..its sad to say, you'd think someone would be in it for the Country and not for themselves...

[VooDooXII]

You'd think someone would be in it for the Country and not for themselves...

Repped

[1000cckiller]

alright, after reading through this BULL****...

we ALL know this will be a never ending debate. NO one will ever be happy with the current president. It just doesn't happen.

Now, I believe that every person in that photo would run this country into the ground, ESPECIALLY Hillary.

But before I get flammed or whatever, ya'll need to know Im not for EITHER party. Ive got VERY mixed views, I believe that the Gov't was founded on the Christian faith, but I DONT see the point in neglecting other faiths, that are ALOT like the Christian faith..Ladies and Gentlemen, accept it or not judism(spelling?), Muslim, and Christianity, IS THE SAME GOD!! For the true believers they all tend to be peaceful..Then you have your hypocritical Christians, your Radical Muslims and so on and so fourth. No one will ever be happy, and it will always be that way.

As far as the "muslim=not my president" comment..thats straight Ignorance..If you call yourself a Christian, your a damn hypocrite.

I also dont think that anyone has really shined on either party. The 2 people I think that have a Shot against Obama and HIllary...would be Ron Paul and Rudy Juliani..

The only reason I say Juliani is because of 9/11..the reason he wouldn't get it...Pre-9/11 if anyone remember he was ****in up big time..

I really dont think anyone is that great for the position of Commander and Chief..its sad to say, you'd think someone would be in it for the Country and not for themselves...That guy is a complete idiot.

[Reaper]

Repped

thanks, you too. +1:goodjob:

[Reaper]

That guy is a complete idiot.

hows that? :thinking:




if your thinkin that I think Juliani only has a chance because of 9/11...ehh yes and no. He's the ONLY one who's showed true leadership out of anyone running...But im not completely convinced he'll win..Do I support him? yes.

[BKgen®]

lol, don't ban me...

my "handing out candy" costume...


http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s193/lqqkitzmenu/Picture035.jpg

ok, i won't ban you.
























(if only i had that kind of power :( )

[Kelly]

but hell it wasnt but 5years ago that I realized it was christmas because of christ, where before I thought it was just present day.

Wow... That's suprising.

[SL65AMG]

In a way plv is correct, because at the rate or youth is getting dumber it is possible.
yeah our youth is stupid as **** ill admit that..... but 90% of it is whats fed to them from 1st grade in out socialist ass govt. schools

[BKgen®]

it's all that damn rap music and "M"tv.

[SL65AMG]

it's all that damn rap music and "M"tv.

where does rap music come from? intelligent individuals?

[1000cckiller]

hows that? :thinking:That stupid mofo, claimed that he did more work than the fire fighters at ground zero. He also said he was there longer and more than all the emergency workers. Why do you thinks most of the people in NY dont like him. He is full of ****, and will always be. I have no good feelings about someone trying to take credit for everything. The whole subject has been on tv, with numerous individual fire fighters and emt and police officers saying he was never there. But he was on tv taking credit like he was there. They stated that during the clean-up Juliani wasnt there, and was no where to be found. They also went on to stated, how could he take credit for clean-up efforts and helping find people when he wasn't there. So what was his ghost there?

[1000cckiller]

yeah our youth is stupid as **** ill admit that..... but 90% of it is whats fed to them from 1st grade in out socialist ass govt. schoolstroof

[BKgen®]

where does rap music come from? intelligent individuals?

nope

[Reaper]

That stupid mofo, claimed that he did more work than the fire fighters at ground zero. He also said he was there longer and more than all the emergency workers. Why do you thinks most of the people in NY dont like him. He is full of ****, and will always be. I have no good feelings about someone trying to take credit for everything. The whole subject has been on tv, with numerous individual fire fighters and emt and police officers saying he was never there. But he was on tv taking credit like he was there. They stated that during the clean-up Juliani wasnt there, and was no where to be found. They also went on to stated, how could he take credit for clean-up efforts and helping find people when he wasn't there. So what was his ghost there?


So how does that make me an idiot? I didn't say he'd win did I? NO..Considering not EVERYONE knows that he wasn't there..I flat out said, that the ONLY thing going for him and that(if you didnt notice) he's riding on is 9/11...why? because it made him more famous and got him out of the sex scandal that he was in just before 9/11. that not many people(besides newyorkers) remember. Every campaign He has made has been based on 9/11...its the only thing he's got and the only reason he MAY have a shot. Because alot of people only see 9/11 and Juliani was Mayor @ the time...

[1000cckiller]

So how does that make me an idiot? I didn't say he'd win did I? NO..Considering not EVERYONE knows that he wasn't there..I flat out said, that the ONLY thing going for him and that(if you didnt notice) he's riding on is 9/11...why? because it made him more famous and got him out of the sex scandal that he was in just before 9/11. that not many people(besides newyorkers) remember. Every campaign He has made has been based on 9/11...its the only thing he's got and the only reason he MAY have a shot. Because alot of people only see 9/11 and Juliani was Mayor @ the time...that wasnt meant at you, it was meant at Juliani.

[1000cckiller]

So how does that make me an idiot? I didn't say he'd win did I? NO..Considering not EVERYONE knows that he wasn't there..I flat out said, that the ONLY thing going for him and that(if you didnt notice) he's riding on is 9/11...why? because it made him more famous and got him out of the sex scandal that he was in just before 9/11. that not many people(besides newyorkers) remember. Every campaign He has made has been based on 9/11...its the only thing he's got and the only reason he MAY have a shot. Because alot of people only see 9/11 and Juliani was Mayor @ the time...Today, 10:53 AM
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That guy is a complete idiot.



hows that?




if your thinkin that I think Juliani only has a chance because of 9/11...ehh yes and no. He's the ONLY one who's showed true leadership out of anyone running...But im not completely convinced he'll win..Do I support him? yes.
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That is what I was talking about.

[Reaper]

that wasnt meant at you, it was meant at Juliani.


oh gotcha...:goodjob:

[VooDooXII]

that wasnt meant at you, it was meant at Juliani.

:lmfao: @ misunderstanding

[Hulud]

that might be a little extreme on his part and probably a bad move, but keeping the church out of government ftw!
QFT

[1000cckiller]

nopetroof

[1000cckiller]

:lmfao: @ misunderstandingme too, but reaper is cool.

[SL65AMG]

hes taking 9/11 personally, because he was governor(???) of NY when it happened. i dont think he would make a good president.

[1000cckiller]

hes taking 9/11 personally, because he was governor(???) of NY when it happened. i dont think he would make a good president.me either.

[Reaper]

That is what I was talking about.

I think that he's got other good points, outside of 9/11...I said that IF he were to win it'd be because of 9/11....Not because of things that I think he would be a good President for..Im saying that he wouldn't make mistakes. And that people will hate him and so on and so fourth.

He cleaned alot of NewYork up before his term was up. Not saying 9/11..Im saying in general(if you've been to NewYork, pre Juliani/post Juliani you'd understand).

[VooDooXII]

me too, but reaper is cool.

Oh I wasn't worried about that...I just thought the misunderstanding itself was funny.

[1000cckiller]

Oh I wasn't worried about that...I just thought the misunderstanding itself was funny.no I know. I was just stating he was cool. The misunderstanding was funny though.

[Reaper]

Oh I wasn't worried about that...I just thought the misunderstanding itself was funny.

lol me too...:goodjob:

[SL65AMG]

I think that he's got other good points, outside of 9/11...I said that IF he were to win it'd be because of 9/11....Not because of things that I think he would be a good President for..Im saying that he wouldn't make mistakes. And that people will hate him and so on and so fourth.

He cleaned alot of NewYork up before his term was up. Not saying 9/11..Im saying in general(if you've been to NewYork, pre Juliani/post Juliani you'd understand).

damn thats a stretch.....



if he wouldnt make mistakes wouldnt he be a perfect president????

[Reaper]

damn thats a stretch.....



if he wouldnt make mistakes wouldnt he be a perfect president????

yeah, thats why i said he's going to make mistakes...just like everyone else.

[Alan®]

hes taking 9/11 personally, because he was governor(???) of NY when it happened. i dont think he would make a good president.
:thinking: what did you live under a rock and not read any of this thread?he was mayor.

to be completely honest I'm not excited about any of the canidates this year. I just hope and pray that hillary doesnt win

[Doppelgänger]

**** the pledge...... i stopped doing it back in high school.

[SL65AMG]

:thinking: what did you live under a rock and not read any of this thread?he was mayor.

to be completely honest I'm not excited about any of the canidates this year. I just hope and pray that hillary doesnt win

thats why i put the question marks....

[Bballjamal]

Time to go to sleep, truthfighter ftw, blackout -1:10hr ago

Completely right!

[VooDooXII]

From what I've seen, Ron Paul seems to have the most support...and Hillary Clinton, absolutely the least. Seriously, I've never seen so much..."anti-support" for a candidate as I've seen for Hillary Clinton.

[Reaper]

From what I've seen, Ron Paul seems to have the most support...and Hillary Clinton, absolutely the least. Seriously, I've never seen so much..."anti-support" for a candidate as I've seen for Hillary Clinton.

Yea but unfortunately clinton still has a good shot...

[coolcat]

OH NO! He didn't put his hand over his heart, what are we going to do? I don't see anything wrong with it, but I'm still not going to vote for him.

[VooDooXII]

Yea but unfortunately clinton still has a good shot...

Well...I won't be voting for her.

I really wish Mark Warner, Governer of Virginia was running. I did some research on him a while back and thought he'd be an excellent, well rounded candidate.

Ahh, we had a project in Political Science on researching people that we think should run for the presidency. I wish I could find that paper.

[SL65AMG]

Yea but unfortunately clinton still has a good shot...
this is why:

[TheProfiteer]

i agree.. CNN and FOX just bash whoever they can at the moment.. yes, the good ol US of A was founded on christian beliefs, and was open to all sorts of religion.. like i said, i will respect yours, my neighbors, my friends diffrent religion, and you DO have teh right to practice it at your will, but the country was founded on christian beliefs.. adn it says "...this nation under God.." now, in my opinion, its my God, the Lord Jesus Christ, but its also worded that it could be YOUR God also.. so why take it out???

if i ever get one of those dollars that dont say "in God we trust" i will throw it back at them and tell them to stop givving me monopoly money :yes:

silly redneck fool, The Majority of the founding fathers were Free Masons.
The ideology of from which this country was created was far from Christian.

In fact Christians are just as bad as extremist Muslims, they kill, they plunder, they rape, they destroy, yet in the end they end up convincing thier followers that they are doing gods good ol will and are going to heaven.

To all you Christian children, even the church tells you, you are children of sin, no matter what you do you will not escape that fate. There is no heaven for you.

[Mk3Jesse]

and this is why i hate religion ^^^^

Im voting ron paul
even if it means i have to write him in.

[Jimmy B]

silly redneck fool, The Majority of the founding fathers were Free Masons.
The ideology of from which this country was created was far from Christian.

In fact Christians are just as bad as extremist Muslims, they kill, they plunder, they rape, they destroy, yet in the end they end up convincing thier followers that they are doing gods good ol will and are going to heaven.

To all you Christian children, even the church tells you, you are children of sin, no matter what you do you will not escape that fate. There is no heaven for you.

HA, im far from redneck, ask anyone who knows me.. im accually pretty open minded..

and yes, the country WAS founded on Christian BELIEFS, and ok, some close minded Christians are bad, but the majority of them are not..
you are basically sayin EVERY christian is a bad person, Every muslim, and well for that matter, if anyone does something bad that publicly protest's there faith, then that faith is 100% in sin,.. WRONG..

im sorry, do some homework before you critisize MY faith, and call me names.. lol

silly kid

[ultm8mind]

Very sad........even sadder than that is he'll probably win. That is the sorry state of the people who are probably going to be doing the voting. I also believe that once he is elected, he will be sniped. I just think it is going to be split and there will be ALOT of people who do not agree with his views and are not ready for it.

[PoonPilot]

who the hell is Ron Paul? Isn't he that rapper from trinidad?

[Jimmy B]

Very sad........even sadder than that is he'll probably win. That is the sorry state of the people who are probably going to be doing the voting. I also believe that once he is elected, he will be sniped. I just think it is going to be split and there will be ALOT of people who do not agree with his views and are not ready for it.
yea right,.. IF he wins(he wont) that means hilary will be vice, and nooooone wants that dyke to be president!!!!!
noone would snipe him, unless it was him and her at the same time! lol

[SL65AMG]

who the hell is Ron Paul? Isn't he that rapper from trinidad?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IWfIhFhelm8

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G7d_e9lrcZ8

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FG2PUZoukfA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FG_HuFtP8w8

http://www.ronpaul2008.com/issues/

there you go.

[SL65AMG]

yea right,.. IF he wins(he wont) that means hilary will be vice, and nooooone wants that dyke to be president!!!!!
noone would snipe him, unless it was him and her at the same time! lol

if she became president i think that someone would take her out from the inside(govt). no one wants that psycho ***** in office. im keepin my guns, that ***** can go to hell..... and im paying for my medicine.

[TheProfiteer]

HA, im far from redneck, ask anyone who knows me.. im accually pretty open minded..

and yes, the country WAS founded on Christian BELIEFS, and ok, some close minded Christians are bad, but the majority of them are not..
you are basically sayin EVERY christian is a bad person, Every muslim, and well for that matter, if anyone does something bad that publicly protest's there faith, then that faith is 100% in sin,.. WRONG..

im sorry, do some homework before you critisize MY faith, and call me names.. lol

silly kid


no this country was NOT founded on christian beliefs. The whole idea of a union ratified constitution was free mason ideology durring that age.

do your research before you make assumptions you know nothing about.

and its not SOME closed minded christians. It is the entire history of christianity, it is riddled with wars, intollerance, and most importantly blind idiotatic faith.

[Frög]

Obama is a secret terrorist that is going to take over the world and kill all non Muslim people.. its Osama's new secret weapon/terrorist attack..

lolol..

[Jimmy B]

no this country was NOT founded on christian beliefs. The whole idea of a union ratified constitution was free mason ideology durring that age.

do your research before you make assumptions you know nothing about.

and its not SOME closed minded christians. It is the entire history of christianity, it is riddled with wars, intollerance, and most importantly blind idiotatic faith.

if thats how you feel.. ok.. not how i was raised and learned, and yes,.. i have done my homework, but i really hate typing and i dont debate on the intra-nets..

i say tomato, you say whatever..

[TheProfiteer]

if thats how you feel.. ok.. not how i was raised and learned, and yes,.. i have done my homework, but i really hate typing and i dont debate on the intra-nets..

i say tomato, you say whatever..


obviously you were not learned propperly. :lmfao:

[ahmonrah]

i admit, i dont say the pledge nor do i put my hand to my heart when the event (pledge) is called. doesnt mean i'm not a patriot, or will defend the freedoms of this republic. i'm a vet just like a few peeps in here.

[95alty]

i admit, i dont say the pledge nor do i put my hand to my heart when the event (pledge) is called. doesnt mean i'm not a patriot, or will defend the freedoms of this republic. i'm a vet just like a few peeps in here.

I see where you are coming from... I personally do not put my hand over my heart and say the national anthem... Am i wrong for that... Im in the Marines and still wont do it... But some may call me unpatriotic :thinking:..... OORAH Ahmonrah.... I disagree with Obama to the fact that he could at least stand at attention and show some respect for my fallen brothers... I stand at attention everytime its played... He should too...

And who wouldnt want to see Hilary in office... I like her... :boobies:... Id hit

[eraser4g63]

As far as i can tell there is no diffrence in the republican and democratic party. I and a good majority of my co-workers are Libertarian, and want as little government as possible. Heck if there was a way i could take away the 30% of my check they get i would be even happier, i personaly am voiting for Huckabe ( see www.fairtax.org ) And i hate to drag religion into this but doesnt the qu'ran say that Muslims have to convert, enslave or kill non muslims??? and to me if a muslim isnt doing this are they not to be concidered a hyporcit and not following their religion?(look it up if you dont believe me) i see alot of people coming after christians but not looking at the other side of the page. but hey thats just me feel free to flame on.

[SL65AMG]

As far as i can tell there is no diffrence in the republican and democratic party. I and a good majority of my co-workers are Libertarian, and want as little government as possible. Heck if there was a way i could take away the 30% of my check they get i would be even happier, i personaly am voiting for Huckabe ( see www.fairtax.org ) And i hate to drag religion into this but doesnt the qu'ran say that Muslims have to convert, enslave or kill non muslims??? and to me if a muslim isnt doing this are they not to be concidered a hyporcit and not following their religion?(look it up if you dont believe me) i see alot of people coming after christians but not looking at the other side of the page. but hey thats just me feel free to flame on.

i believe its something to that extent. i have never read for myself but thats what ive heard. i heard that taxation was somewhere in there too....(another option)

[eraser4g63]

Either way i don't much care for any of those options myself.. but hey who am i to say..

[TheProfiteer]

As far as i can tell there is no diffrence in the republican and democratic party. I and a good majority of my co-workers are Libertarian, and want as little government as possible. Heck if there was a way i could take away the 30% of my check they get i would be even happier, i personaly am voiting for Huckabe ( see www.fairtax.org (http://www.fairtax.org) ) And i hate to drag religion into this but doesnt the qu'ran say that Muslims have to convert, enslave or kill non muslims??? and to me if a muslim isnt doing this are they not to be concidered a hyporcit and not following their religion?(look it up if you dont believe me) i see alot of people coming after christians but not looking at the other side of the page. but hey thats just me feel free to flame on.

no it does not. Agian please do not start with killing the in the name of god.

While Islam, like Christianity, has a brutal history the direct translation of each religions holy book says nothing about killing in the name of god.

I disagree with All Organized religion, its all just a puppet game.

[SL65AMG]

no it does not. Agian please do not start with killing the in the name of god.

While Islam, like Christianity, has a brutal history the direct translation of each religions holy book says nothing about killing in the name of god.

I disagree with All Organized religion, its all just a puppet game.

ok killing in the name of allah then.....


and organized religion really is a puppet game.... and a bunch of bull****.

[Sledlude]

ok killing in the name of allah then.....


and organized religion really is a puppet game.... and a bunch of bull****.
how old are you? seriously asking... because your argument is lacking, you sound like a 15 year old. that would make sense. I hope you are not a grown man.

[ahmonrah]

I see where you are coming from... I personally do not put my hand over my heart and say the national anthem... Am i wrong for that... Im in the Marines and still wont do it... But some may call me unpatriotic :thinking:..... OORAH Ahmonrah.... I disagree with Obama to the fact that he could at least stand at attention and show some respect for my fallen brothers... I stand at attention everytime its played... He should too...

And who wouldnt want to see Hilary in office... I like her... :boobies:... Id hit that i do as well. but it looks to me like he did. i'm not gonna bash over one pic without knowing many details about obama and just cause he's a brotha wont win my vote, and on the flipside, i've known people that will sing the pledge like whitney houston, but will not volunteer themselves to the armed forces, let alone allow thei kids to go.

[SL65AMG]

how old are you? seriously asking... because your argument is lacking, you sound like a 15 year old. that would make sense. I hope you are not a grown man.

im no grown man, although im no kid either..... well i guess that depends on how old you are. im 19.


i just have my own opinions, and im not afraid to voice them.


not all religion is bull****, just parts of it.

[fucksohc]

**** Obama and Hillary!

[Deke]

There is so much ignorance scattered throughout this thread it's hard to know where to begin. I guess I'll just pick on a few things that bothered me...



1) The words "under God" were not added to the Pledge of Allegiance until the early 1950s. Therefore it cannot be used in any argument about what ideals our founding fathers had in mind when establishing our country.

That being said, I recited it every morning of grade school and have no problem saying it today.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pledge_of_allegiance


2) The same thing stated above goes for "In God We Trust." It wasn't added to US currency until the 1950s. Before that only "E Pluribus Unum" (meaning "From many, one" or "Out of many, one") was the only motto used.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/In_God_We_Trust
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/E_Pluribus_Unum


3) Whether the country was founded on Christian ideals is debatable. What's absolutely not debatable is the fact that it was founded on the concept of the separation of church and state. The government should have absolutely no say in what citizens of the United States believe. Religion should have absolutely no say in the affairs of our government.

Obviously we still need to work on this (prayer in school, hand on the Bible, gay marriage, etc).





Alright, I'm tired of typing. I'm done for now.

[DrivenMind]

Maybe the typical American god isn't his thing.

Jesus way to freak out, and sorta make yourself look like a radical southern baptist.

[1000cckiller]

I would vote for this guy

http://www.uglypeople.com/uploaded/6/ugly3.jpg

[Nomad!]

Not sure how this makes him a bad presidential candidate but, whatever

[TheProfiteer]

There is so much ignorance scattered throughout this thread it's hard to know where to begin. I guess I'll just pick on a few things that bothered me...



1) The words "under God" were not added to the Pledge of Allegiance until the early 1950s. Therefore it cannot be used in any argument about what ideals our founding fathers had in mind when establishing our country.

That being said, I recited it every morning of grade school and have no problem saying it today.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pledge_of_allegiance


2) The same thing stated above goes for "In God We Trust." It wasn't added to US currency until the 1950s. Before that only "E Pluribus Unum" (meaning "From many, one" or "Out of many, one") was the only motto used.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/In_God_We_Trust
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/E_Pluribus_Unum


3) Whether the country was founded on Christian ideals is debatable. What's absolutely not debatable is the fact that it was founded on the concept of the separation of church and state. The government should have absolutely no say in what citizens of the United States believe. Religion should have absolutely no say in the affairs of our government.

Obviously we still need to work on this (prayer in school, hand on the Bible, gay marriage, etc).





Alright, I'm tired of typing. I'm done for now.

Very nice educated response.:goodjob:

[dc2teg2006]

The country was not founded on Christian belief, but on religious freedom. The reason why the country was created was because in England the Puritan was prosecuted by the king, therefore the Puritan settle in the Americas to seek religious freedom. It is funny though, once the Puritan set up colonies in America, they prosecuted other people who did not follow their own religion, and it is kind of sad how ironic that was. Seeking religious freedom, but in return prosecuted those that did not believe in their own religion even worst then that of the English Parliament.

About the not pledging, it is the individual right of the person to do/not to do so, as burning the flag, (but don’t do that). I remember when I was in Elementary school, every time we rise to pledge the flag there use to be one kid that just sit there, and I always wonder why that was, and people made fun of him because he did pledged like the rest of us. What I’m getting at is, this is country is a majority rule, it is hard, even sometime prosecuted if one go against the norm even if they are right. Ex the Japanese/Germans encampment during WWII, the Black suppressions for the last few hundreds years, and now the Muslims. Some people need to just open their mind, and view the world in more then one dimension and stop making these racial, religious, etc comments, and maybe it be better place to live.
I agree with the comment above there are a lot of ignorance ppl!

[Sledlude]

im no grown man, although im no kid either..... well i guess that depends on how old you are. im 19.


i just have my own opinions, and im not afraid to voice them.


not all religion is bull****, just parts of it.

you should read more; and that doesn't mean maxim, fhm, or comic books. its cool that you like to voice your opinions, but make sure they are educated or you will sound like an idiot.

[DrivenMind]

Most religion is bull****.

Simply a means to further divide, what should already be a unified people.

[SL65AMG]

Most religion is bull****.

Simply a means to further divide, what should already be a unified people.

also, if you look at all of the larger calamities in the world, they stem from religion. in the middle east, for example, is about to blow up, literally, and its not that they just don't like each other, its what their religion teaches them.

[Ran]

Oh noes! The pledge has "God" in it? Oh noes! Our money has "God" on it? Whatever shall we do?

Screw it, we're d@mned either way with the two candidates that are running. I just plan on leaving to watch this country each itself alive from afar.

[4dmin]

that might be a little extreme on his part and probably a bad move, but keeping the church out of government ftw!

good job :goodjob: i'd vote for him over hilary