porsche 944 Turbo

[Spektrewing386]

anyone ever driven/owned one of these? how is it? can they be modded to be pretty damn fast?

[VooDooXII]

I wanted this car soooo badly.

The only thing that held me back was maintenance $$$.

They're already fast, and they handle great. Good luck finding one though.

[Spektrewing386]

theres tons on craigslist going from 3k-8k

[81911SC]

Look for a S2 or a 951.

[The Youngn]

i didnt like it too much when i drove it. Maybe because there was a problem with the boost but if its what you like then go for it. Test drive it to see how you like it.

[VooDooXII]

S2 is an all motor monster...3.0 liter inline 4!

He's after the 951 though.

[Spektrewing386]

turbo the s2? hmmm.....

[VooDooXII]

turbo the s2? hmmm.....

:devil:

[81911SC]

Lol PM IDCoconut he knows it all.

[Spektrewing386]

v6 mr2 or 951 or (s13 + bike)? i dont know

[81911SC]

951

[The Youngn]

993 has got to be one of my all time favorites. ill have one at some point in my lifetime

[81911SC]

Me 2^^^

[The Youngn]

i just think 60-70k is too much for a 97 993 turbo. Let them drop a little more and get one or i might just end up getting an S or 4S

[81911SC]

I don't think there to much I think they are worth it but they are expensive for sure.

[Spektrewing386]

ok stay on topic: we dont need to go the regular IA route of talking about relative stuff to 3 pages later talking about a anthropomorphic incarnation of a giant taco that ****s icecream.


is the turbo 4 banger still pretty torquey? or should i stick with a 6 cylinder mr2/ turbo s13 + bike


i like v6 sound and performance, but i dont want to trade down. havnt even got the v6 mr2 done yet.

[81911SC]

Porsche, there is no substitute.

[The Youngn]

^^amen to that!!

[Spektrewing386]

guess ill have to test one out.


someone said on a youtube comment "they are easy to maintain". is he serious, what are your thoughts and opinions on that?


are there much aftermarket?

can i make 400whp with $4k in mods?

i heard the transmissions are in the back.... wtf?

[nreggie454]

guess ill have to test one out.


someone said on a youtube comment "they are easy to maintain". is he serious, what are your thoughts and opinions on that?


are there much aftermarket?

can i make 400whp with $4k in mods?

i heard the transmissions are in the back.... wtf?

As is the usual saying goes, "If you know what you are doing and know what to expect, Porsches are easy to maintain." For example, my dad is the original owner of his 1974 Porsche 914 and the only time he hasn't done his own work on it was when he got the engine blueprinted and balanced. However, he knows every single nut and bolt on that MF'er.

There is an aftermarket for it, and I know that the car can make 400whp (I know a guy who had one), but I don't know about the prices of the products.

Yes, the transmission is in the back, it gives the car practically a 50/50 weight distribution.

[OneSlow5pt0]

944s are front engine right?

[81911SC]

Wow, go home.

[VooDooXII]

Don't worry about torque...yes they were four bangers, but they were HUGE four bangers.

N/A 944 was a 2.5 liter
The Turbo had a 2.7 liter
And the S2, as mentioned before, had a 3.0 liter.

[OneSlow5pt0]

Wow, go home.

ill stab you

[VooDooXII]

ill stab you

...with an umbrella...

[81911SC]

Or with an automatic transmission.

[OneSlow5pt0]

Or with an automatic transmission.

o snap

ill give reps for that one

[81911SC]

Me 2. Good job 81911. Your the ****.

[VooDooXII]

Or with an automatic transmission.

:thinking:

Don't buy an automatic Porsche.

[OneSlow5pt0]

Me 2. Good job 81911. Your the ****.

im gonna kill u @ the V:yes:

[81911SC]

im gonna kill u @ the V:yes:
:DCheck my for sale thread. I will be packing.:goodjob: Hypno can't drive a manual Voodoo.

[OneSlow5pt0]

:DCheck my for sale thread. I will be packing.:goodjob: Hypno can't drive a manual Voodoo.

dude im gonna buy that sword and shinobi your ass

and i can,but my 5speed had bad wiring and needed a new top...so i just sold it

[81911SC]

Yea yea, Actually I won't be at the V, I will be at Rennsport. Sorry ladies. I got to leave see ya.

[OneSlow5pt0]

Yea yea, Actually I won't be at the V, I will be at Rennsport. Sorry ladies. I got to leave see ya.

thats cause u scurred,lol

[IDCoconut]

951's did not have 2.7's. 2.7's came in the newer 944's.

ALL 951 (944Turbo & TurboS) had 2.5's

The 2.5liter 8valve Turbo created more torque than the 3.0liter 16valve N/A on the S2's. The S2's motor is base concept of the 968's motor but without the forged internals and without the variocam system.

With 4k in parts, you can have a 350+rwhp bolt-on 951. check out www.lindseyracing.com . Those 3-8k 951's you're seeing are mostlikely the pre-1988 951's. Those have 217hp. The 88.5 and above are called Turbo S's, which make 247hp. Both cars have the same displacement, 2.5liter.



Someone said something about boosting the S2. Easier said than done, but when done, it is monsterous. The S2's 3.0 comes stock with a 10.9:1 compression. Very high for an N/A motor, but that's how S2's can give pre-88 951's a run for their money on road courses. The 951's have 217hp, while the S2 has 207hp. The 951 puts out more torque at around 240ish @ 3500rpm i think and the S2 is only at 208 @ 4000-4500rpm. But if you look at the S2's torque curve, it's very flat. There is a guy in australia right now that is slowly cranking his boost up on his S2. It's a completely stock S2 motor with 90k miles. Has a stand-alone, K26 turbo, 951/S2 hybrid intake manifold, 951 turbo plumbing, etc. and the car is over 400rwhp.....@ 10psi. 100% gain @ 10psi is good. Stock pistons have held up for 15k kilometers now he claims.

He has spent a little over 10grand. If you're really interested, he will give you his intake dimensions, his fuel mapping, timing curve, etc. if you ask and are serious.


With that said, a popular motor/head combo is a 3.0liter block mated with a 2.7liter 8valve head off of the newer 944's. Turbo'd 500+ realiable HP easy and daily driven.

[IDCoconut]

Another option is to go buy a regular 944. Swap in an LS motor. Not a Honda motor....a GM motor.

[KPowerEP3]

Yea yea, Actually I won't be at the V, I will be at Rennsport. Sorry ladies. I got to leave see ya.


You're going :eek:

fag. I h8 u. DIAF NUB GTFO.

[FDslider]

Somebody needs to buy my 924 ----> http://www.importatlanta.com/forums/showthread.php?t=139434

Yeah, I know that's a shameless plug, but I need this thing gone. I'll pretty much take ANY decent offer at this point.

[BKiller]

I just sold my 87 951. Super fun car. Parts are pretty easy to come by considering it is a Porsche. I would not consider it easy to work on if you are used to working on a Honda or GM vehicle. For 4k in parts you could have a great fast car. They suck for drag racing and they are known for destroying trannys if you launch them hard from a dead stop. But on a roll, I would put mine up against just about anything. The motors are pretty bulletproof up to about 22PSI. Do some reading on Rennlist.com before you do anything. There is a bunch of guys from Atlanta on there.

[81911SC]

You're going :eek:

fag. I h8 u. DIAF NUB GTFO.
**** yea man. I can't miss this.

[speedminded]

guess ill have to test one out.


someone said on a youtube comment "they are easy to maintain". is he serious, what are your thoughts and opinions on that?


are there much aftermarket?

can i make 400whp with $4k in mods?

i heard the transmissions are in the back.... wtf?It's a 2.5 liter Audi engine up front with a torque tube leading to the gearbox in the rear.

Get one with a blown engine and put an LS2 in it ;)

[Spektrewing386]

i dont really like cross make hybrids

[speedminded]

i dont really like cross make hybridsWhat do you think came in the Porsche 944?

People need to get off their high horses and over themselves. A vehicle is an object made of parts put together for one thing, to enable that vehicle to get from Point A to Point B...it's purpose and how it gets there are the only variables: reliability, ingenuity, handling, speed, power, torque, gas mileage, payload, etc. etc etc. Who cares who designed or manufactured a certain part as long as it reaches the goal of what you want?

[fivex684]

They are good cars. My mom had one for a couple of years. It can be a little pricey to maintain but what nice Euro car isn't. As long as my mom had it I can't think of one problem she had with it. It was fun car to drive, it easily out handled my dad's 911 SC. I took it to the mountains a couple of times and had a blast. The only mods I remember on the car were an AutoThority chip and an exhaust (can't recall brand).

[Spektrewing386]

What do you think came in the Porsche 944?

People need to get off their high horses and over themselves. A vehicle is an object made of parts put together for one thing, to enable that vehicle to get from Point A to Point B...it's purpose and how it gets there are the only variables: reliability, ingenuity, handling, speed, power, torque, gas mileage, payload, etc. etc etc. Who cares who designed or manufactured a certain part as long as it reaches the goal of what you want?


Porsche is part of VW.

[81911SC]

Ok, by your obvious lack of knowledge just get the Mr2 or whatever. You don't need a Porsche. I don't think you should have one.

[Spektrewing386]

?

thats what wikipedia said.... very close relationship. they were started by the same guy. funny how your stance on the subject drastically changed.



i have no idea why Speedminded said that.

guess i was mistaken by what i read about the 924 and applying it to 944



and a corvette motor in a porsche is definitley cross make hybrid.

[81911SC]

Sorry, I thought you knew what you were talking about. Obviously I was wrong. They were not started by the same guy. Porsche owns over a 30% of Volkswagen, not a part of Volkswagen.

[IDCoconut]

The 2.5 is not Audi based. All 944 motors are purely Porsche based.

The 924 motors are a different story.

[Spektrewing386]

"Porsche, is a German manufacturer of automobiles. It was founded in 1931 by Ferdinand Porsche, the Austrian engineer who also created the first Volkswagen"

i guess i misinterpreted that statement.


and i dont know what im talking about, so thats why im asking for input.


are the 951 engines iron block or aluminum?

whats the weak parts of the car?

[SoLJames95]

I got a friend with an 84 944 for sale. It was turboed, but one of the turbos went bad and he just kept it all motor. I dont know much about them. He wants 5. Its clean.

[Spektrewing386]

not looking to buy just yet, but thanks

[Spektrewing386]

are they interference engines?

[BKiller]

are they interference engines?

Yes. Timing belt must be maintained or you are buying new valves.. Alum block with sleeves. Tranny is the weak point, but only under hard launches or extreme (400+whp) power.

[chituntang]

Hate people asking "can the car make 400whp" kind of question. Chances are you really cannot handle a 200hp ones.

[Spektrewing386]

chances are that you posted at 4am and need to go to sleep

[d993s]

guess ill have to test one out.


someone said on a youtube comment "they are easy to maintain". is he serious, what are your thoughts and opinions on that?


are there much aftermarket?

can i make 400whp with $4k in mods?

i heard the transmissions are in the back.... wtf?

For the average person, they are definately NOT easy to maintain (timing belt/water pump changes every 30k miles @ $1500 are not cheap). A clutch job will cost about $1700 for parts and labor. Parts are expensive as compared to most $10k cars.
The tranny IS in the back for better weight distribution (50%-50% front/rear).
They are nice cars. Good looks, very reliable if maintained regularly, and they make excellent track cars.
I've owned 5 until now........my current '88 Turbo S just has a larger turbo, fuel pump, injectors, MAF conversion, 3" exhaust, tuning, and made 442whp and 457wtq at 22psi. It's still undergoing some work (I don't have time to do it myself).
Besides a "wide-fire" head gasket and Raceware head studs, it has completely stock internals. That's about $5k in mods. You can spend over $15,000 and get the same results at PowerHaus or others.
This can be done with any '86-'89 944 Turbo. Be careful with detonation (use proper spark plugs, maintain a richer a/f mixture, etc) since the weak link is the head gasket, and it can go quick.

[Spektrewing386]

thanks for the information.
i'll definitley look into it if i get bored with my current car
22psi on stock internals? yum