ROTA vs. Spoon

[Mr. Clean]

am i the only person on IA that doesn't really see why you would buy some spoon sw388's when the rota slipstreams look almost identical.

yes blah blah blah they are fake but they look identical and 97% of the people that buy them for weight reasons are never going to do anything worth the weight reduction of what?... 15lbs. that your gonna save.

in my opinion if you buy these you are just a whore... simple as that, because there are no major functional differences when your putting them on a 140hp civic.

don't get me wrong... i love me some JDM hottness and there are some situations in which fake or imitation wheels are absolutely awful so this debate should mostly go for this style wheel. and let's not too personal here

the pictures below are of the rota and the spoon... i think the big one is the rota and the small one is the spoon

alright well let the debate begin. in the words of MXC Challenge "LET'S GET IT ON!"

[mocha latte cupcake]

Spoon - one of the highest and greatest parts makers for honda ever... the wheels are known as SW388's or to the NON honda community the Desmond Regamaster EVO's. its a simple and great wheel to a JDM whore its like GOLD. it definately gets alot of respect from people not matter if they are rockin Volks/works/Advan whatever... the spoon is still like wow, you got SW388's? they are light and its a name brand thing in the end but honestly... i'd rather rock the ORIGINAL and ultimately the BETTER wheel.

Weight: 3.88 kg.... aka 8.55 pounds for 15's

Rota - the wannabe jdm... aka we copy every cool wheel design and sell them at more "tuner friendly" prices. i can't stand them, sure they don't weight as little weighing in at a stunning 12.3 pounds per 15" of rota grade metal... they are more appealing b/c you can get them in a variety of colors where are the Desmonds were offered generally in grey. i don't like rotas b/c i consider it cheaping out for what you "ultimately" want. but hey thats my preference... jdm, J-spec, OEM JDM is the way the car generally came and it was "down tuned, retarded, hated, shunned, and pooped upon" to come to america... so people going for the JDM status shouldn't rock these wheels... but if your going for a "JDM" look where you wanna buy things that are JDM style as opposed to TRUE JDM... then go for it... but truthfully... i cry everytime i see a riceboy with rotas and call them jdm....

just my 2 pennies worth

[JDMJAYDC2]

i see your point if your just going for looks then go rota but if your going to autox or you race quite often then i would opt for the spoon ones. I actually was about to get the spoon ones about 2 months ago for a steal at 1k but as we all know things come up. I guess you could look at it like this when you buy stuff for your car.

everybody buys shoes right.... ok most of us dont run a 5k everyday but yet the airmax 95 is prob the hottest running shoe out. you could buy the pro keds one that looks just like it at your local walmart or you could shell out the 100+ bucks for the airmax just my .02 but i do see your point clean dodge

and the pic is a guy from Team-Integra.net's dragon run and they are real spoon wheels. I guess in closing its a do what you want to your car

[JDMjoe]

F**K FAKE WHEELS AND F**K ROTAS

[Mr. Clean]

F**K FAKE WHEELS AND F**K ROTAS

thanks for your knowledgeable and articulate input :goodjob:

jackass

[LeX]

if it was for street use, i'd keep the rotas and save my money

for track use rotas aren't gonna be as strong so i'd take the real thing

[mocha latte cupcake]

^^JDMJAYDCteggy^^ b/c thats how you do it :D

[JDMjoe]

PURE jdm, I totally agree with you on this, me and cleandodge have been debating this at work all day. I would rather ride on oem wheels than say i have rotas. :yes:

[jadakid88]

the 4 lug rota dont look like spoons at all.

[JDMjoe]

Looks like cleandodge is the only one on his vote :yes:

[The Yousef]

if i can afford it spoon...

if not and i really like the look then rota...

[uproot]

im surprised more people haven't voted for "because they are still good looking wheels"

Every time someone posts up about the new wheels they just got, or what wheels they should buy, they always ask opinions about looks... not functionality.

[greasemunkey]

what happened to just buying rims that appeal to you, who cares if its a knock off if it looks good to me, ill buy them, that and I'd kinda rather have the heavier rims so that I don't spin as much. Spoon is the **** btw, but I just can't justify 80% of their prices...its like buying mcdonalds over checkers, yeah its cheaper but its still good.

[SPOOLIN]

the spoon 15" and the rota slipstream(any size) look identical, except for the finish. The spoon 16" looks different from the 15" version and looks different from the rota all together. the little picture is what the 16" looks like. The wheels are forged metal. I wouldnt care to buy them either but they are a precision made wheel and people that take advantage of them do.

[Deke]

Invasion of the JDM fanboys! The spoons are built nicer. The rotas still aren't bad. Get what you want to get. Don't get a wheel just because it will make jdm nut-huggers drool.

Just my :2cents:

[ash7]

^ agreeeeeeed

and SW388s and Regamasters are fairly easy to come across, icbmotors has them in stock on a regular basis. If you want something that will make the HT boys flip their lid, try finding a set of Team Orange or Techno Phantom wheels.

-jonathan

[mocha latte cupcake]

Techno Phantoms OMG!
http://www.club4ag.com/faq%20and%20tech_pages/wheels/h_tecnof.jpg

[ash7]

^see what i mean?

lol
-jonathan

[jadakid88]

the spoon 15" and the rota slipstream(any size) look identical, except for the finish. The spoon 16" looks different from the 15" version and looks different from the rota all together. the little picture is what the 16" looks like. The wheels are forged metal. I wouldnt care to buy them either but the are a precision made wheel and people that take advantage of them do.im not talkin completely different, im talking like around the area where they bolt up at, you can tell the difference. on the rotas they have open slots and the spoons dont. thats what im talkin about.

[Crazy Asian]

seriously Im a jdm whore ugh. And when it comes to rims I was stupid and I bought rotas. But I hate them cuz they looks so cheap.and useless. Im buying Volk Racing CE28 so ya.

[Crazy Asian]

And also they are not forged they are cast so when you hit a pothole say byebye to your wheels.

[speedminded]

And also they are not forged they are cast so when you hit a pothole say byebye to your wheels.You hit a pothole with a rota and it could break...so go spend another $100 on a brand new one. You hit a pothole with the spoon and it could bend, $100 to repair or $250-500 for another wheel (+s/h).

Other than the first batch of Subzero's made years ago how many people have seen a Rota break during normal daily use?

My cars a fake, a fake Type-R...shaved sides, ITR engine, etc...so why not fake wheels too :tongue:

[Crazy Asian]

Um my friend Subzero did. We were in Cali and he was pretty driving aggresive so I was in shotgun and then BAM we hit a pot hole. Well the front was not right. Ya it cracked no more like broken. One side of the rim had this massive fracture. And were like ya that's toast. Threw on the spare and then be bought TE37.

[Crazy Asian]

Though nowdays the Rota wheels are stronger I guess.

[speedminded]

Um my friend Subzero did. We were in Cali and he was pretty driving aggresive so I was in shotgun and then BAM we hit a pot hole. Well the front was not right. Ya it cracked no more like broken. One side of the rim had this massive fracture. And were like ya that's toast. Threw on the spare and then be bought TE37.Would you expect any wheel with a low profile tire to survive an impact with a pothole? :tongue:

[mocha latte cupcake]

yeah i would i'd put 50 psi in that mo feezy! hit a hole and keep on rollin lol

[SPOOLIN]

im not talkin completely different, im talking like around the area where they bolt up at, you can tell the difference. on the rotas they have open slots and the spoons dont. thats what im talkin about.

yeah actually you are wrong, the 16" doesnt have the holes between the lug nuts but the 15" DOES have the holes between the lug nuts, look it up. Rota made the 15" wheel to be identical to the 15" spoon.

[japan4racing]

i have had a couple sets of rota slips and i know a guy with 15 spoons..side by side no one can tell the difference...the only difference i saw was i paid $500 shipped for the whole set-up and he paid $1400. if you need light wheels to make your car fast or make it perform then you didnt have a fast performance car to begin with.

[Mr. Clean]

i have had a couple sets of rota slips and i know a guy with 15 spoons..side by side no one can tell the difference...the only difference i saw was i paid $500 shipped for the whole set-up and he paid $1400. if you need light wheels to make your car fast or make it perform then you didnt have a fast performance car to begin with.

+1 :D

[Bruce Leroy]

I would never pay for real wheels on a car that I daily drive. I always find myself hitting potholes and curbs and whatnot. :burnout: Its easier for me to just go online and order another drag or rota than me trying to find a replacement for a wheel that might take me 2 months to get. Plus i buy a new set of wheels every year so the knockoffs were better on my wallet.


That being said. I have bagan the hunt for a lightweight 8 in wheel for my car thats not a stupid 0 offset. I'm either going to have to go custom, or swap to 5 lug, both cost $$$$$$. More than likely I'm just gonna get widened steelies.

[BTLFED]

You will NEVER catch me with buster ass Rotas on my car. They are cast piles of garbage. I have seen many people bust a Rota when using their cars for anything besides parking lot "pimpin." I'll roll a 14" DA GSR wheel before I would EVER put a Rota on my car.

You buy cheap you buy twice.

[Mr. Clean]

http://www.importatlanta.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=118929&stc=1

haha mikesek has that shirt but i dont think he will ever wear it. even though it doesn't help my point its a funny ass shirt

[BTLFED]

I'm getting one and I'll wear that **** like its going out of style.

[JDMjoe]

You will NEVER catch me with buster ass Rotas on my car. They are cast piles of garbage. I have seen many people bust a Rota when using their cars for anything besides parking lot "pimpin." I'll roll a 14" DA GSR wheel before I would EVER put a Rota on my car.

You buy cheap you buy twice.
Damn right about right about oem or go all out! :goodjob:

Sweet jesus, my buddy has that shirt, i want one too.

[BTLFED]

Damn right about right about oem or go all out! :goodjob:

Sweet jesus, my buddy has that shirt, i want one too.

Pacific Rim sells them.

NAIZBST needs to get in this thread. He owns NOTHING fake. Advan, Mugen, JDM Enkei RS Tarmacs, etc. Hell, his Type R is a real deal RHD. He is more JDM than PureJDM.

[Mr. Clean]

Pacific Rim sells them.

NAIZBST needs to get in this thread. He owns NOTHING fake. Advan, Mugen, JDM Enkei RS Tarmacs, etc. Hell, his Type R is a real deal RHD. He is more JDM than PureJDM.

damn his rich ass! in a case like that...of course theres no reason to throw some Rota's on there. im not expecting to sway someone in here to put rotas on a ITR or something. just your average joe (no pun intended JDMjoe86) putting some $1500 wheels on a daily driven car that will never see track time or a booth at a respectable car show is just ridiculous unless you just want to gain the illustrious whore status :D

[JDMjoe]

Cuz one day im gonna be jdmballin like that :D

[yudalicious]

Between money spent on tires, brakes, entry fee, gas, parts wear and tear, if I can get away with cheap knockoff wheels that function well, I'll do just that. I've yet to see spoons or too many "real" wheels on track, but I've seen plenty of rotas. It's funny that the only people who will bring up the quality and construction are the ones who do their racing with their mouths in the parking lot. Yes I know a particular model of rotas broke in the past, yes I know rota has since then corrected the problem, and yes I check my wheels before every event, regardless of their brand.

[BTLFED]

Between money spent on tires, brakes, entry fee, gas, parts wear and tear, if I can get away with cheap knockoff wheels that function well, I'll do just that. I've yet to see spoons or too many "real" wheels on track, but I've seen plenty of rotas. It's funny that the only people who will bring up the quality and construction are the ones who do their racing with their mouths in the parking lot. Yes I know a particular model of rotas broke in the past, yes I know rota has since then corrected the problem, and yes I check my wheels before every event, regardless of their brand.

Yeah, okay. :rolleyes:

[yudalicious]

Yeah, okay. :rolleyes:
That's just my opinion from my experience, if you have something useful to say, say it. But okay.

[BTLFED]

That's just my opinion from my experience, if you have something useful to say, say it. But okay.

So, without knowing any of us "talking about the craftsmanship" of the wheels, you assume that we all just "parking lot pimpin?" That's retarded. :rolleyes:

[yudalicious]

So, without knowing any of us "talking about the craftsmanship" of the wheels, you assume that we all just "parking lot pimpin?" That's retarded. :rolleyes:

The comment wasn't directed at anyone here in particular, more of a rant, though there's plenty of people (not on IA necessarily) who are deserving of my statement. It really comes down to a personal choice but I don't need a close minded fool telling me that my rotas are imminently close to failing (actual argument on IA). In the end it's about responsible usage, maybe someday I'll make enough money to rock volks, but I'll still be checking them before and after events.

[BTLFED]

The comment wasn't directed at anyone here in particular, more of a rant, though there's plenty of people (not on IA necessarily) who are deserving of my statement. It really comes down to a personal choice but I don't need a close minded fool telling me that my rotas are imminently close to failing (actual argument on IA). In the end it's about responsible usage, maybe someday I'll make enough money to rock volks, but I'll still be checking them before and after events.

Well that is understandable, and I agree to a point. I'm also not saying that your Rotas are "imminently close to failing" I am saying that I have seen more fail in an actual race environment. Yours may be fine.

[yudalicious]

Well that is understandable, and I agree to a point. I'm also not saying that your Rotas are "imminently close to failing" I am saying that I have seen more fail in an actual race environment. Yours may be fine.

the fool comment wasn't directed at you. I think, with the amount of anecdotal and my own experience using rotas, I'll be fine with them.

[BTLFED]

the fool comment wasn't directed at you. I think, with the amount of anecdotal and my own experience using rotas, I'll be fine with them.

Well then rock on. :goodjob:

[JITB]

Between money spent on tires, brakes, entry fee, gas, parts wear and tear, if I can get away with cheap knockoff wheels that function well, I'll do just that. I've yet to see spoons or too many "real" wheels on track, but I've seen plenty of rotas. It's funny that the only people who will bring up the quality and construction are the ones who do their racing with their mouths in the parking lot. Yes I know a particular model of rotas broke in the past, yes I know rota has since then corrected the problem, and yes I check my wheels before every event, regardless of their brand.


i agree! moswt that spend that money on expensive wheels, just take pics and really arent gonna have the ned for them.

[Mr. Clean]

myfonti, spacelion, xlilvi3tx... i see yall on my thread! so vote

[spacelion]

You forgot one choice in the poll that's more important than any of those...the quality of the wheel that Spoon provides over the likes of Rota. The OP obviously only cares about the look of the product. Minor details seperate the true enthusiasts from the trend riders; it seperates the ones that truly appreciate the work and effort that goes into what they rock versus just the LOOK of it. Simply put: consumers get what they pay for.

[Mr. Clean]

You forgot one choice in the poll that's more important than any of those...the quality of the wheel that Spoon provides over the likes of Rota. The OP obviously only cares about the look of the product. Minor details seperate the true enthusiasts from the trend riders; it seperates the ones that truly appreciate the work and effort that goes into what they rock versus just the LOOK of it. Simply put: consumers get what they pay for.

well vote spoon for functionality... because the rota is obviously not going to be as tough or light or made of the same material as the spoon or it would not be so cheap so there really shouldn't be an option for "i choose rota because they are higher quality than spoon".

[spacelion]

well vote spoon for functionality... because the rota is obviously not going to be as tough or light or made of the same material as the spoon or it would not be so cheap so there really shouldn't be an option for "i choose rota because they are higher quality than spoon".

I don't really understand what that last part means :thinking: But yeah I voted for Spoon's functionality.

[spacelion]

Spoon - one of the highest and greatest parts makers for honda ever... the wheels are known as SW388's or to the NON honda community the Desmond Regamaster EVO's. its a simple and great wheel to a JDM whore its like GOLD. it definately gets alot of respect from people not matter if they are rockin Volks/works/Advan whatever... the spoon is still like wow, you got SW388's? they are light and its a name brand thing in the end but honestly... i'd rather rock the ORIGINAL and ultimately the BETTER wheel.

Weight: 3.88 kg.... aka 8.55 pounds for 15's

Rota - the wannabe jdm... aka we copy every cool wheel design and sell them at more "tuner friendly" prices. i can't stand them, sure they don't weight as little weighing in at a stunning 12.3 pounds per 15" of rota grade metal... they are more appealing b/c you can get them in a variety of colors where are the Desmonds were offered generally in grey. i don't like rotas b/c i consider it cheaping out for what you "ultimately" want. but hey thats my preference... jdm, J-spec, OEM JDM is the way the car generally came and it was "down tuned, retarded, hated, shunned, and pooped upon" to come to america... so people going for the JDM status shouldn't rock these wheels... but if your going for a "JDM" look where you wanna buy things that are JDM style as opposed to TRUE JDM... then go for it... but truthfully... i cry everytime i see a riceboy with rotas and call them jdm....

just my 2 pennies worth

Nicely put.

[JDMjoe]

You forgot one choice in the poll that's more important than any of those...the quality of the wheel that Spoon provides over the likes of Rota. The OP obviously only cares about the look of the product. Minor details seperate the true enthusiasts from the trend riders; it seperates the ones that truly appreciate the work and effort that goes into what they rock versus just the LOOK of it. Simply put: consumers get what they pay for.

You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to spacelion again.

[BobbyFresco]

I would get the Spoon wheels or the Regamaster Evo alternative.....

The argument has been made that ppl that buy the authentic wheels don't use them for the intended purposes but how many ppl rocking Rota's actually drive their car at track days?

IMO, ppl buy Rota's to emulate the "jdm look" but then are quick to point out the fact that ppl with the real deal wheels don't have them for the functionality when they are called out on having fake wheels.....

[JDMjoe]

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[TypeRPersonality]

Nothing wrong with putting Rotas on your car. Of course anyone given the option of having either would choose Spoon. But not everyone has that much extra money. They could invest the extra into something else. If I had an S2000, I would get the Spoons, but I have a Civic, I would rather get the Rotas. But I don't have Rotas :D

[spacelion]

Nothing wrong with putting Rotas on your car. Of course anyone given the option of having either would choose Spoon. But not everyone has that much extra money. They could invest the extra into something else. If I had an S2000, I would get the Spoons, but I have a Civic, I would rather get the Rotas. But I don't have Rotas :D

I'd rather rock stockies over Rota's...whether I had a Civic, Integra, S2000 or even a Suby (since they're popular with Suby's too...)

[xlilvi3tx]

Nothing wrong with putting Rotas on your car. Of course anyone given the option of having either would choose Spoon. But not everyone has that much extra money. They could invest the extra into something else. If I had an S2000, I would get the Spoons, but I have a Civic, I would rather get the Rotas. But I don't have Rotas :D

x2 just my :2cents:

[Black R]

i bought some custom 15x8 rota's but couldn't bring myself to put them on my car.....

it's like do you shop at walmart for your shoes, or do you go to niketown?

there are some things you simply shouldn't skimp on.....

[japan4racing]

i just need to ask this question..how many of the ppl that have posted here actually race with the spoon rims or rotas on there car? becuase if you are dd'ing the spoons you wasted your money. i have had rota's, drag's, and flik's and they all worked great for rolling around under the car. at the track i rock lenso's. i get the feeling there are a bunch of ppl in here that are just on the bandwagon of this jdm bull**** and are so materialistic that they have to have the real deal rims. so please...how many road racers do we have here with spoons on the race car everytime it hits the track...and im not talking about you ran your car 3 times this year...im talking about active competitive road racers, auto-xers, drag racers ect ect ect.

[Mr. Clean]

i have given away too rep points today according to the vBulletin, so i will rep the people i didn't get a chance to in 24 hours

and remember to VOTE... don't just post... VOTE

[JDMjoe]

i just need to ask this question..how many of the ppl that have posted here actually race with the spoon rims or rotas on there car? becuase if you are dd'ing the spoons you wasted your money. i have had rota's, drag's, and flik's and they all worked great for rolling around under the car. at the track i rock lenso's. i get the feeling there are a bunch of ppl in here that are just on the bandwagon of this jdm bull**** and are so materialistic that they have to have the real deal rims. so please...how many road racers do we have here with spoons on the race car everytime it hits the track...and im not talking about you ran your car 3 times this year...im talking about active competitive road racers, auto-xers, drag racers ect ect ect.
So what there are jdm whores out there. I would rather dd a REAL wheel than a rota for the simple reason that im an jdm enthusiast rather another person on the "jdm bandwagon" Yeah they are expensive so what, take pride where you spend your money rather than go cheap and say i have the same thing. Quality cost money. Of course they are cheaper wheels that weight the same. Enkei rp01s wiegh around the same wieght. But guess what, they are original wheels. So i still stand in my opinon f**k fake wheels. Ill ride on stock wheels before i would buy a set of rotas, drags, nippon etc.

[bigdare23]

I cant see myself rocking rotas. I invested too much in my car to cheat myself on the wheels department. I started out with a set of konig heliums (which are cheap and light), but after hearing horror stories about them breaking, I decide to step my game up to "real" rims. I notice that lightweight and cheap doesn't go together well, so if you want some lightweight wheels, up the chesse. If you just want the look, go cheap.... I mean rota.

[bigdare23]

If you are patient you can find nice "real" rims for a good price. I paid $600 for my heliums w/tires. My current rims (mugen MR5s) I paid $300 w/tires. I always wanted a set of Watannbe's (or SSR RS-8's), but when Konig and rota made their versions I was temped, but i couldn't see myself rocking fakies again. Luckily I was patient and I found a set of SSR RS-8 for <$300 (cheaper than the knock-offs). Patients is the key, but most people lack that so they settle.

[japan4racing]

Quality cost money.

i am very aware of this...i have a laskey racing/benson/portflo longblock, full-race t3/t67ho, peakboost manifold, edelbrock manifold, edelbrock throttlebody, edelbrock rail, precision injectors hondata...you get the idea :blah: but my question to all you guys is how many of you actually use the spoons. i rock cheap wheels for daily driving. no use in ****ing up some good wheels. but when you guys take your car to the track what do you run on? and how do you feel when you curb a $300 wheel at the taco bell drive thru....i would feel bad at all about curbing a $96 drag dr-23....but i would be beside myself if i scratched a lenso vpd

[mocha latte cupcake]

JDM drops panties....


Fakies drop boxer briefs....



you choose.....

[JDMjoe]

If you are patient you can find nice "real" rims for a good price. I paid $600 for my heliums w/tires. My current rims (mugen MR5s) I paid $300 w/tires. I always wanted a set of Watannbe's (or SSR RS-8's), but when Konig and rota made their versions I was temped, but i couldn't see myself rocking fakies again. Luckily I was patient and I found a set of SSR RS-8 for <$300 (cheaper than the knock-offs). Patients is the key, but most people lack that so they settle.
Ive seen your car at the varsity i think, i freakin love your wheels

[bigdare23]

Ive seen your car at the varsity i think, i freakin love your wheels


Thanks homie :goodjob:

[JDMjoe]

Thanks homie :goodjob:
Its a red crx right???

[yudalicious]

The argument has been made that ppl that buy the authentic wheels don't use them for the intended purposes but how many ppl rocking Rota's actually drive their car at track days?

I've seen more Rotas than all the name other brands combined... but then again, maybe because I only go to the el cheapo JDM emulation track days.


IMO, ppl buy Rota's to emulate the "jdm look" but then are quick to point out the fact that ppl with the real deal wheels don't have them for the functionality when they are called out on having fake wheels.....

I actually could care less what types of wheels people buy or for what reason. It's about stopping the spread of misinformation and elitist attitudes.

[bigdare23]

Buying expensive rims is kinda like making your car faster. Both really doesn't serve any purpose.

Why build a 500hp car when you can rarely use all the power? For s hits and giggles and because you can and want to.

Why buy $2k rims? For s hits and giggles and because you can and want to.


So there isnt much difference. Everyone has their own style.

[JDMjoe]

i am very aware of this...i have a laskey racing/benson/portflo longblock, full-race t3/t67ho, peakboost manifold, edelbrock manifold, edelbrock throttlebody, edelbrock rail, precision injectors hondata...you get the idea :blah: but my question to all you guys is how many of you actually use the spoons. i rock cheap wheels for daily driving. no use in ****ing up some good wheels. but when you guys take your car to the track what do you run on? and how do you feel when you curb a $300 wheel at the taco bell drive thru....i would feel bad at all about curbing a $96 drag dr-23....but i would be beside myself if i scratched a lenso vpd
Again, i glad you put money into your performance, i just couldn't see myself rockin rotas on a car i put money into, its a jdm bandwagon like you said, daily drive oem wheels.

[mocha latte cupcake]

tr00f ^^^

[mocha latte cupcake]

i can buy my STOCK OEM wheels and be JDM too lol lol hooray for WorldWide wheels lol

[JDMjoe]

i can buy my STOCK OEM wheels and be JDM too lol lol hooray for WorldWide wheels lol
Yeah yeah, thinking about 4X114.3 conversion oem and jdm :goodjob:

[mocha latte cupcake]

OEM CTR is teh sex.... i'll have a honda one day to daily drive... and just OEM Jspec it lol... no real super mods... just clean and simple OEM+

[Crazy Asian]

I had have a JMD 2001 Honda Prelude 4WS Type S.


OMG I would be having sex with the exhaust.

But yes Im broke and crying cuz a JDM hood is not cheap. Really not cheap.

[JDMjoe]

OEM CTR is teh sex.... i'll have a honda one day to daily drive... and just OEM Jspec it lol... no real super mods... just clean and simple OEM+
I hear ya, my avatar says it all though lol
Daily drive a ctr....... :yes:

[japan4racing]

Buying expensive rims is kinda like making your car faster. Both really doesn't serve any purpose.

Why build a 500hp car when you can rarely use all the power? For s hits and giggles and because you can and want to.

Why buy $2k rims? For s hits and giggles and because you can and want to.


So there isnt much difference. Everyone has their own style.

i totally agree but im not gonna trash another person just becuse they are happy with a stock motor. im not gonna say i would never rock a stock motor..stock motors are too weak and cant handle the abuse i put them through...which takes me back to my original question....do any of you guys actually use these expensive wheels for racing or is it simply a look for you. becuase bottom line is if you are not using them for the performance aspect on the track then you are using them for attention/looks.

to be honest with you i could care less how you spend your money. i would rather drop a g or so on a turbo than on wheels but thats just me. i ahve damn good rims for the track and i have had no issues at all with my ****ty cheapo drag dr-23's...infact i am very pleased with them..they look great and do there job. it is all about the look anyways..regardless of what anyone says. i dont give a **** if theya re the strongest wheels on earth...if they had a 4 sided penis pattern and were pink and purple you guys would not rock them..no matter how jdm,,strong, or light they were

[green91]

Ive had a set of rota c-8s on my car for about 3 years now, they have held up to high speed highway driving, dirt roads, country back roads and probably a hundred mountain runs. aside from a few knicks in the finish they still look the same as when i bought them. plus they look good, are light weight and fit the car well. i didnt buy them to have a "jdm" look, but more simply because i thought they fit the car.

[TypeRPersonality]

Everyone wants the real deal, not everyone is willing to pay for it. So what if people want some nice looking wheels that are just replicas of real jdm wheels.

A lot of cars you see rolling around sport fake type err body accessories. I don't see anything demeaning about having replicas. Some of you act like you designed the original and others are profiting off of your wheel designs.

And I would rather roll on a set of Rotas than steelies, why? Cause I have a cheap daily driver, not some expensive, high performance, magazine worthy car, **** that, I enjoy my 40mpg.

[mocha latte cupcake]

there is always a line to be drawn in the sand...

function or form...... Rota is form, Spoon is function.... i DD my Modia KT205r's... i haven't found another set on ebay or any internet site... so if i curb, bend, scratch, or heaven forbid destroy one... i'm screwed.... but i choose not to roll anything BUT JDM.... i'd rather curb my precious wheel than to say oh yeah my car is FULL JDM... except those... they are rotas. (silence...dots) yeah...

i'm not an elitist.... but i can NOT stand it when people refer to wheels as a Jspec, JDM, Jtuned, J anything when it is NOT a japanese wheel or a wheel that falls under the JDM category, its irritating.

[JDMjoe]

Agreed^^^^

[TypeRPersonality]

Why don't someone just make a thread about Rota vs Drag. A $200 difference in price and no bias in opinions!

[spacelion]

i just need to ask this question..how many of the ppl that have posted here actually race with the spoon rims or rotas on there car? becuase if you are dd'ing the spoons you wasted your money. i have had rota's, drag's, and flik's and they all worked great for rolling around under the car. at the track i rock lenso's. i get the feeling there are a bunch of ppl in here that are just on the bandwagon of this jdm bull**** and are so materialistic that they have to have the real deal rims. so please...how many road racers do we have here with spoons on the race car everytime it hits the track...and im not talking about you ran your car 3 times this year...im talking about active competitive road racers, auto-xers, drag racers ect ect ect.

You're going a little too far with this topic my friend. You're probably older than most the people that replied to this thread. I personally don't have an all out race car yet with the top-dollar parts that have hours upon hours of R&D in their composition, but that doesn't mean I or anyone else who strives to be a weekend track competitor can't be talking or posting in response to this subject. You can't knock the people that have the aspirations to do what you're talking about.

[bigdare23]

Me personally, I dislike rota not because of the look, but because they made unique one-of-a-kind wheels common. Just say if you had your spoon wheels on an EG before rota dropped their slips, you were unique at that time because no one had a similar wheel. Now if that same person comes out today, he's just any regular EG because Rota took a unique wheel and mass produced it. That's the only reason why I dislike rota. I give Rota props for making some really decent copy, but by mass producing unique rims it kinda took away the "WOW" from the originals.

[JDMjoe]

You're going a little too far with this topic my friend. You're probably older than most the people that replied to this thread. I personally don't have an all out race car yet with the top-dollar parts that have hours upon hours of R&D in their composition, but that doesn't mean I or anyone else who strives to be a weekend track competitor can't be talking or posting in response to this subject. You can't knock the people that have the aspirations to do what you're talking about.

Well said mike! One day i will have a track monster :ninja: w/real wheels :D

[brentS13]

friends dont let friends roll on rotas - JDM EGO T-Shirt

[mocha latte cupcake]

Me personally, I dislike rota not because of the look, but because they made unique one-of-a-kind wheels common. Just say if you had your spoon wheels on an EG before rota dropped their slips, you were unique at that time because no one had a similar wheel. Now if that same person comes out today, he's just any regular EG because Rota took a unique wheel and mass produced it. That's the only reason why I dislike rota. I give Rota props for making some really decent copy, but by mass producing unique rims it kinda took away the "WOW" from the originals.

EXACTLY! /THREAD

[yudalicious]

there is always a line to be drawn in the sand...

function or form...... Rota is form, Spoon is function.... i DD my Modia KT205r's... i haven't found another set on ebay or any internet site... so if i curb, bend, scratch, or heaven forbid destroy one... i'm screwed.... but i choose not to roll anything BUT JDM.... i'd rather curb my precious wheel than to say oh yeah my car is FULL JDM... except those... they are rotas. (silence...dots) yeah...

If you only DD your car, how is Spoon more functional than Rota? Are Rotas not round? I bought my Rotas because they were the right size, offset, price and because many others have used Rotas for the same purpose in which I wanted to use them (HPDE) with success. Because of the price, I was able to budget money for more important things: tires, brake pads, entry fees (the price difference between Rotas and their brand name counterpart was worth 3-4 track days). To me, they were a purely functional purchase, they look ok, not great but not ugly. And no, they have not broke yet, and most likely won't break soon.

[mocha latte cupcake]

If you only DD your car, how is Spoon more functional than Rota? Are Rotas not round? I bought my Rotas because they were the right size, offset, price and because many others have used Rotas for the same purpose in which I wanted to use them (HPDE) with success. Because of the price, I was able to budget money for more important things: tires, brake pads, entry fees (the price difference between Rotas and their brand name counterpart was worth 3-4 track days). To me, they were a purely functional purchase, they look ok, not great but not ugly. And no, they have not broke yet, and most likely won't break soon.

i prefer my lightwheel wheels because when i street race i count my OZ's and it may be dumb to some but i like it that way, stripped, 1/4 tank of gas, lightweight wheels, and on the south beach diet lol (not really but it seemed funny) every pound i have counts to me in my acceleration, deceleration, cornering etc. i don't like Rotas b/c they are trash in my eyes, it has ruined the wow factor of many wheels and i can't stand the outrageous price they charge for a "jdm" look. they are round, however like i said before i won't rock rotas... i did at one time and they were gone within a week b/c they didn't fit me right. i can understand a budget but honestly paying 900+ for your rotas doesn't compete with my LIGHTER, STRONGER, RARER, 350 JDM TRUE JDM wheels. i got love for people lookin to save price but my biggest thing isn't for saving money, its a wow factor.... a functionality factor.... and all round makes me hella happier than looking just like everyone else factor :D

[japan4racing]

You're going a little too far with this topic my friend. You're probably older than most the people that replied to this thread. I personally don't have an all out race car yet with the top-dollar parts that have hours upon hours of R&D in their composition, but that doesn't mean I or anyone else who strives to be a weekend track competitor can't be talking or posting in response to this subject. You can't knock the people that have the aspirations to do what you're talking about.

im not saying that other opinions are not appreciated...what i am saying is ppl are talking about how much better the spoon material is, how much lighter they are, how they are constructed better...so how does this help you on the way to mcdonalds on your lunch break? all of this only matters on the track. regardless of how old you are, how much money you have, or what kinda car you drive. how does having a set of $1500 rims become better than a set of $500 rims when you are daily driving it to work and back?

hell, i dont mean to brag but i am in the process of building a street/drag car. i have dropped tons of money into it. in the last 2 months alone i have dumped nearly 6 grand into it. yea, i make good money..yea, im most likely older than some of the ppl on this forum that are just now getting into cars...but i still rock some drag dr-23 wheels....why? is it because they are accepted in the import community? is it becuase they are "cool"? its actually becuase after dropping nearly a grand on drag wheels and tires i wanted something that was stylish to drive on but didnt cost me an arm and a leg. drag dr-23 15 inch rims with 195 55 15 falken ziex 512's...thats how i roll. 12g's under the hood....$500 under the car!

to each his own. please dont think that i am trying to discount what some of the jdm ppl are saying. if they want it that way then by all means buy those wheels and run them on a dd. but dont tell me the advantages of these race inspired wheels when the only racing you are doing is trying to beat that red light on your way to work. im just tryin to keep the debate alive. at the end of the day i am happy with my purchases...and im sure the jdm guys are too. thats all that really matters

[Mr. Clean]

Again, i glad you put money into your performance, i just couldn't see myself rockin rotas on a car i put money into, its a jdm bandwagon like you said, daily drive oem wheels.

__________________________________________________ ________


So what there are jdm whores out there. I would rather dd a REAL wheel than a rota for the simple reason that im an jdm enthusiast rather another person on the "jdm bandwagon"


:thinking: did i read something wrong or did you contradict yourself

[Mr. Clean]

anyway... im going to bed and i expect to see 2478 votes when i wake up.

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a couple of you guys haven't voted yet

[japan4racing]

i just realized my user title is so appropriate for this thread!!!

[spacelion]

im not saying that other opinions are not appreciated...what i am saying is ppl are talking about how much better the spoon material is, how much lighter they are, how they are constructed better...so how does this help you on the way to mcdonalds on your lunch break? all of this only matters on the track. regardless of how old you are, how much money you have, or what kinda car you drive. how does having a set of $1500 rims become better than a set of $500 rims when you are daily driving it to work and back?

hell, i dont mean to brag but i am in the process of building a street/drag car. i have dropped tons of money into it. in the last 2 months alone i have dumped nearly 6 grand into it. yea, i make good money..yea, im most likely older than some of the ppl on this forum that are just now getting into cars...but i still rock some drag dr-23 wheels....why? is it because they are accepted in the import community? is it becuase they are "cool"? its actually becuase after dropping nearly a grand on drag wheels and tires i wanted something that was stylish to drive on but didnt cost me an arm and a leg. drag dr-23 15 inch rims with 195 55 15 falken ziex 512's...thats how i roll. 12g's under the hood....$500 under the car!

to each his own. please dont think that i am trying to discount what some of the jdm ppl are saying. if they want it that way then by all means buy those wheels and run them on a dd. but dont tell me the advantages of these race inspired wheels when the only racing you are doing is trying to beat that red light on your way to work. im just tryin to keep the debate alive. at the end of the day i am happy with my purchases...and im sure the jdm guys are too. thats all that really matters

Yeah, I agree with what you're saying, I guess it's just a difference in where we are in both of our lives...you're already at the point I would like to be at when it comes to motorsports :goodjob:

[japan4racing]

Yeah, I agree with what you're saying, I guess it's just a difference in where we are in both of our lives...you're already at the point I would like to be at when it comes to motorsports :goodjob:


reps for your av!!! :goodjob: steven seagal ftw

[JDMjoe]

:thinking: did i read something wrong or did you contradict yourself
No, im an enthusiat! Im not on a bandwagon.

[Mr. Clean]

OOOO an enthusiat!!?

[Black R]

all of you rota fans need to recognize the fact that the quality control and fit/ finish isn't there. so if it's for a bucket, i fully understand your reluctance to spend the loot on a volk/ spoon/ work, etc. yes they are better than steelies for a daily driver.

now i have had incidents where a rota would've caused me to flip the car vs just bending some volks and walking away from an accident.

I currently own racinghart and volk wheels as well as enkei and rota. I don't even particularly like the design of the 'spoom' wheels.

I have also balanced my own wheels and tires on many occasions - although I don't do it professionally anymore. Take one of your beloved rota's and put it on the balancer without any tires or wheelweights. Wow, they are out of balance and actually wobble straight from the factory! Now I have done this with my racingharts and volks as well and noticed none of those issues whatsoever.

So in conclusion, if you care about your ass on and off track make sure you choose carefully.

I only read of one other guy who actually seems to do lapping days or autox in this thread, and he has rota's. For autox, I'd be less concerned about deformation that I would be for lapping days. But as you know, wheels are a wear item when you are racing..... You have got to have that worry in the back of your mind - 'are my wheels going to fail me this event?'

[japan4racing]

you bring up some very good points...but you gotta admit in a place where the highest speed you can legally go is maybe 80mph i dont think these wheels are gonna matter. they have all been approved for use on public highways so they must be safe enough for your daily driver. and i guarantee you cannot tell the difference between a real spoon and a slip while driving to burger king. on the track or at a car show where that **** matters im sure you can find a flaw....but sitting in your driveway i like it. once again...im not trying to sway you guys away from your beloved spoons. im just bringing up good points that should be considered as much as your points are considered. if having the absolute best product is a must then why are we all driving civics to begin with? you cant polish a turd!

[JDMjoe]

you bring up some very good points...but you gotta admit in a place where the highest speed you can legally go is maybe 80mph i dont think these wheels are gonna matter. they have all been approved for use on public highways so they must be safe enough for your daily driver. and i guarantee you cannot tell the difference between a real spoon and a slip while driving to burger king. on the track or at a car show where that **** matters im sure you can find a flaw....but sitting in your driveway i like it. once again...im not trying to sway you guys away from your beloved spoons. im just bringing up good points that should be considered as much as your points are considered. if having the absolute best product is a must then why are we all driving civics to begin with? you cant polish a turd!
Turd :thinking: You have had three civics

Alright im done whoreing out this thread................

[SiRed94]

i think its funny that companies like Drag make knock-off Rotas and Rotas are knock-offs themselves... they actually advertise them as "Rota Replicas"... hahaha

[JDM onlyy]

i think its funny that companies like Drag make knock-off Rotas and Rotas are knock-offs themselves... they actually advertise them as "Rota Replicas"... hahaha

LOL YUP

[iNsTuN nOoDoH]

I've owned rotas and now I got Volk Te37s... It feels a lot better to have the real deal and the quality of the te's is a lot better than the rotas. I really have no preference on which wheel's I'd rather ride though. I do, however, think that wheels sets any car off big time, so you shouldn't cheap out on them. I got my rotas as temps until i got enough for the te's.

[white_rice]

you pay for what you get ...that is all

[Mr. Clean]

i think its funny that companies like Drag make knock-off Rotas and Rotas are knock-offs themselves... they actually advertise them as "Rota Replicas"... hahaha

rota does design a couple of their wheels on their own, but with 429874598345 wheels on the market right now you can't tell what's what unless it's a design that is extremely popular or had a lot of media or underground coverage.

__________________________________________________ ______________

FROM THE ROTA WEBSITE.... its worth a read for all you OEM loving folks

HISTORY

Philippine Aluminum Wheels Inc. (PAWI), was established on October 8, 1976 as a joint venture between FPS of Italy and Romeo S. Rojas to engage in the manufacture of alloy wheels in the Philippines.

The company's first production of its Rota brand of wheels was in 1977, with an initial production capacity of 4,000 wheels a month. In just the company's first year, Rota wheels are chosen by Chrysler-Mitsubishi (Philippines) as OEM (Original Equipment Manufacturer) for its vehicles passing through the stringent OEM specifications of its parent company in Japan.

The following year saw other major car assemblers engaging the services of the company to manufacture their OE wheel requirements for their vehicles. These companies included Ford, Datsun, Isuzu, Mercedes-Benz, Opel and Volkswagen.

In 1983, after seven years of operation, PAWI became a 100% Filipino corporation. It also marked the year that Japanese technology was introduced into the company's manufacturing operations.

In 1988, PAWI develops its "magnesium-strengthened, heat treatable alloy," making Rota wheels lighter yet stronger and more durable. The following year saw a major upgrade of facilities as PAWI introduced state-of-the-art technological improvements in the form of the latest equipment and machines that speed up and improve chemical analysis, machining, painting and finishing. With the comeback of Toyota into the Philippine market, they chose Rota wheels as their OE wheels, as well as Daihatsu.

In 1990, a milestone was met when PAWI hits a record production of 20,000 Rota wheels per month.

Today, PAWI produces alloy wheels of world-class quality, using state-of-the-art technology. A new series of upgrading has since boosted its production capacity to new heights of 50,000 wheels a month. More than ten times of its capacity when it first started.

[JDMjoe]

Nice find sir!
Off topic but, from enkei's website
WHAT COMPANIES RELY ON ENKEI'S QUALITY MANUFACTURING STANDARDS?
A. ENKEI supplies the following companies as Original Equipment Manufacturer (OEM): Honda, Mitsubishi, Subaru, Suzuki, Mazda, Toyota, Yamaha, Kawasaki, Nissan, NISMO, GM Holden, General Motors and Ford.

B. ENKEI is Official Supplier in the following racing Series:
• FIA Formula One (F1): McLaren Mercedes
• FIA World Rally championship (WRC): Mitsubishi Ralliart
• All Japan Grand Touring Car Championship (JGTC) GT 500 Class and GT 300 Class
• Super Taikyu – Endurance Series. Classes 1, 2, 3, 4 and N+
• D1GP Drifting Championship and Formula Drift Championship. Team RS-R, Team TEIN and Vaughn Gittin “JR” Team FALKEN.

You don't see rota in the formula one

[Mr. Clean]

Nice find sir!

wow... a nice comment in this heated battle... +1 :D

[BTLFED]

friends dont let friends roll on rotas - JDM EGO T-Shirt

Your first post on this forum is a ****ing repost from EARLIER IN THE THREAD?! :rolleyes:

You won't make it here. Other forums are that way -------------------------->

[Mr. Clean]

Your first post on this forum is a ****ing repost from EARLIER IN THE THREAD?! :rolleyes:

You won't make it here. Other forums are that way -------------------------->

word... shut em down... as long as he voted first :D haha

[Mr. Clean]

You don't see rota in the formula one[/color][/font]

why you gotta ruin your good comment with that ridiculous ass statement... if i ever see a rota on a formula one car i swear to god i will ****ing throw myself onto the track cause the whole field to pile up killing at least 10 people including me and then i want them to say on the news... "all these senseless deaths due to a bad wheel choice of rotas on this million dollar car"... of course you dont see rota in the formula one, they are not even CLOSE to a reasonable quality for going in excess of 225 mph... damnit joe... now you got me all flustered.


::: quote from wiki answers on the cost of a formula one car :::

"With the extensive knowledge of composites necessary today, teams will stop at nothing to gain an advantage. Typical top team budgets are in excess of 350M US$ per year. M Shumacher is still the highest paid athlete in the world I believe, but I could be mistaken with our insane lust for sports in the US...perhaps someone has elcipsed his earnings by now."

in closing... i think they can afford to spend more than $100 a wheel

[SPOOLIN]

i can tell the difference between a 15" rota slip and a 15" spoon w388. Like i stated before, i really dont care about spoon wheels but because of all the bitching and comparing from the past, ive trained my eyes. Physical differences are there, and the finish.

[JDMjoe]

LOL You had a point, so i had a point, car manufactors choose rota to make there wheels but so does enkei. I would choose enkei :D

[Mr. Clean]

LOL You had a point, so i had a point, car manufactors choose rota to make there wheels but so does enkei. I would choose enkei :D

i thought i made it pretty clear at the beginning of the thread... you were there when i made it... you should know son


don't get me wrong... i love me some JDM hottness and there are some situations in which fake or imitation wheels are absolutely awful so this debate should mostly go for this style wheel. and let's not too personal here

i don't care about your enkei's... i would buy enkei's for my formula one too but that doesn't pertain to this thread...sir :tongue1:

[Mr. Clean]

i can tell the difference between...:::quote not important to this post:::

and jesus christ i want to have sex with that EK in your sig

[JDMjoe]

and jesus christ i want to have sex with that EK in your sig
Suck up :tongue1:

[Mr. Clean]

PURE jdm, I totally agree with you on this...



ive seen your car at the varsity i think, i freakin love your wheels



Agreed^^^^



Well said mike!...



suck up :tongue1:

[JDMjoe]

:blah:

[Mr. Clean]

:blah:

ahahahaahahaha off topic personal attack wins FTMFW!

[JDMrequired]

a lot of people who roll on spoon wheels dont even have the spoon sticker on them, so they just look like any other wheel....Regamaster evos are the real deal, if you want to spend upwards $1600, then you should buy some desmond regamasters and actually keep the sticker on so people will reka-motha****in-ize your JDM.

[NAIZBST]

a lot of people who roll on spoon wheels dont even have the spoon sticker on them, so they just look like any other wheel....Regamaster evos are the real deal, if you want to spend upwards $1600, then you should buy some desmond regamasters and actually keep the sticker on so people will reka-motha****in-ize your JDM.

spoon wheels and desmond regamasters are the same wheel manufacture
spoon wheels have no stickers on their new models just their original wheels

[Mr. Clean]

http://i173.photobucket.com/albums/w59/hotwheels07/17rotaslip.jpg

http://www.jhpusa.com/catalog/images/spoon.sw388-16.jpg

http://icbmotorsport.com/Wheels3/JDM_Rega_EVO_Silver.jpg

just cause

[bigdare23]

http://www.jdmland.com/


when people want to step their game up

[Mr. Clean]

http://www.jdmland.com/


when people want to step their game up

haha just another whoreslounge

[spacelion]

Can't believe this thread is still going on...:rolleyes:

[JDMjoe]

http://www.jdmland.com/


when people want to step their game up
I dream about that website LOL

[JDMjoe]

http://i173.photobucket.com/albums/w59/hotwheels07/17rotaslip.jpg





Correct me if im wrong but this is rota and the other 2 are real.

[bigdare23]

http://i173.photobucket.com/albums/w59/hotwheels07/17rotaslip.jpg





Correct me if im wrong but this is rota and the other 2 are real.


:lmfao: your wrong for that comment :lmfao:

[Mr. Clean]

http://i173.photobucket.com/albums/w59/hotwheels07/17rotaslip.jpg





Correct me if im wrong but this is rota and the other 2 are real.

your right... that one is made by the oompa loompas at the chocolate factory? its real. its just not your whored out JDM wheel, good job on spotting the most reasonable wheel for all the DD's who want a good looking wheel :goodjob:

[japan4racing]

Turd :thinking: You have had three civics

Alright im done whoreing out this thread................

actually i have had 7 over the past 3 years or so and on those 7 cars were a total of 3 sets of fake ass cheap wheels and you know how many times they failed me? zero times! i drive a civic not a full on race car. therefore i dont see the advantage to these super expensive hyped up wheels (that is my opinion)

opinion - noun

1. a belief or judgment that rests on grounds insufficient to produce complete certainty.
2. a personal view, attitude, or appraisal.

we all have opininions here. of course i think i am right and you think you are right...in reality we are all right. none of us are saying spoon wheels are ****ty. i just dont see how they can be so much better for daily driving your ****ty civic. i drive a ****ty civic and i dont think $1300 worth of aluminum will make it any better! so for $700 cheaper i can roll on some wheels that to most ppl are just a stylish wheel.

i can see where you guys would hate rota's though..i have a freind with real spoons and ppl are always commenting on his slips! he could have saved some money and no one would have cared :lmfao:


i can tell the difference between a 15" rota slip and a 15" spoon w388. Like i stated before, i really dont care about spoon wheels but because of all the bitching and comparing from the past, ive trained my eyes. Physical differences are there, and the finish.

but can you tell a difference while you are rolling on them? does the car roll better through the parking lot at macy's? i guess on that trip to your girlfreinds house you can be rest asured that you are safer with those spoon rims that you would be with any other dot approved rim....i know it seems like i am being a **** here but im just debating. im sure they have advantages on the track but for daily use i just dont see it.

after all, wearing a rubber is great when you are banging a nasty from the club but for the daily grind with your steady girlfreind just raw dog it for the cheap!

[worldchamp]

i rock rotas cause i cant seem to get myself to buy expensive wheels for street abuse/use. i was going to get some works wheels but why when they are going to get trashed and rock chips and such.... i think they are sexy awsome made wheels but i am not going to buy wheels just to throw on for a show or event. i drive my **** every day and rotas are ok for me. but i give props to those who buy expensive wheels and rock them everyday. you have big balls my friends :) if i had a track car or was building a show car of course i would go with the expensive real deal ****........

[spacelion]

i rock rotas cause i cant seem to get myself to buy expensive wheels for street abuse/use. i was going to get some works wheels but why when they are going to get trashed and rock chips and such.... i think they are sexy awsome made wheels but i am not going to buy wheels just to throw on for a show or event. i drive my **** every day and rotas are ok for me. but i give props to those who buy expensive wheels and rock them everyday. you have big balls my friends :) if i had a track car or was building a show car of course i would go with the expensive real deal ****........

That's the point some of us have been trying to make, the high quality wheels are made for the track because of their differences from the re-pro's. I'd hope that if you spent an azz ton of money on motor work, suspension, etc., you'd do the same in the wheel dept so there's a slimmer chance of your car being sent for a roller coaster ride. The lighter wheels may just even make your lap times (or 1/4mi times for you draggers) quicker. But to me it's not worth it rolling around on authentics...I'd use stockies off the track before I'd use re-pro's though.

[japan4racing]

That's the point some of us have been trying to make, the high quality wheels are made for the track because of their differences from the re-pro's. I'd hope that if you spent an azz ton of money on motor work, suspension, etc., you'd do the same in the wheel dept so there's a slimmer chance of your car being sent for a roller coaster ride. The lighter wheels may just even make your lap times (or 1/4mi times for you draggers) quicker. But to me it's not worth it rolling around on authentics...I'd use stockies off the track before I'd use re-pro's though.


on the track for sure use some good ****..but im not rolling on those real deal expensive wheels on the street...and why look like ass on doo-doo's when you can get some rota's or some other cheap wheel and have your car look good? to each his own...you wanna roll on doo-doo's thats you. but im rolling on rota's, drag's, fliks, nippons ect..im not THAT proud

[DaMaGe ZWK]

damn i guess im a whore cause I have a set and I dont take my car to the track.... oh well who gives a damn?? If I bought them to hang on my damn wall am i still a whore? Im not being an d!ck, i just think this thread is funny as hell and I would much rather you talk **** about my wheels in here than in my FS thread...

[spacelion]

on the track for sure use some good ****..but im not rolling on those real deal expensive wheels on the street...and why look like ass on doo-doo's when you can get some rota's or some other cheap wheel and have your car look good? to each his own...you wanna roll on doo-doo's thats you. but im rolling on rota's, drag's, fliks, nippons ect..im not THAT proud

I'm into the more suttle look. I'd rather spend the $800 that the rotas with tires cost somewhere else on the car and keep my meshes. As long as I have grippy tires for cruising/driving, the wheels don't matter on street. Just difference in train of thought and opinion/preference. I'm not knockin you though dude, at all.


damn i guess im a whore cause I have a set and I dont take my car to the track.... oh well who gives a damn?? If I bought them to hang on my damn wall am i still a whore? Im not being an d!ck, i just think this thread is funny as hell and I would much rather you talk **** about my wheels in here than in my FS thread...

Yeah true about that last part. But this isn't really sh*t-talking, just conversing about what we think...more or less...

[JDMrequired]

spoon wheels and desmond regamasters are the same wheel manufacture
spoon wheels have no stickers on their new models just their original wheels


i knew that desmond made spoons but i think desmonds look better

here is a pic of the new spoons....its not a sticker, i dont think, it might be paint
http://img143.imageshack.us/img143/520/nusw388ap8.jpg (http://imageshack.us/)

[jadakid88]

yeah actually you are wrong, the 16" doesnt have the holes between the lug nuts but the 15" DOES have the holes between the lug nuts, look it up. Rota made the 15" wheel to be identical to the 15" spoon.another correction i meant to say the 16's. thank you for the correction. :D

[JDMjoe]

damn i guess im a whore cause I have a set and I dont take my car to the track.... oh well who gives a damn?? If I bought them to hang on my damn wall am i still a whore? Im not being an d!ck, i just think this thread is funny as hell and I would much rather you talk **** about my wheels in here than in my FS thread...
LOL thats funny, me and cleandodge were arguing about it after seeing your thread. I WANT YOUR WHEELS. Cuz im a whore too i guess. :D

[Mr. Clean]

damn i guess im a whore cause I have a set and I dont take my car to the track.... oh well who gives a damn?? If I bought them to hang on my damn wall am i still a whore? Im not being an d!ck, i just think this thread is funny as hell and I would much rather you talk **** about my wheels in here than in my FS thread...

yeah i don't mean to hurt your FS thread. but if it motivates someone to whore out they're car and buy your wheels...i better get a rep or two haha

[JDMjoe]

:lmfao: your wrong for that comment :lmfao:
Well, i was looking at the finish and it looks too dark. Spoons look more flat, more of a grey black rather than a deep semigloss. My bad my bad.

[yudalicious]

That's the point some of us have been trying to make, the high quality wheels are made for the track because of their differences from the re-pro's.

So you agree that Rotas are high quality, since a ton of people rock them for track.


I'd hope that if you spent an azz ton of money on motor work, suspension, etc., you'd do the same in the wheel dept so there's a slimmer chance of your car being sent for a roller coaster ride.

Like I said before, no matter what wheels you're using on track, dilligent use is the most important factor.

This thread is getting pointless. You'll always think Rotas suck and will break on track. I'll keep using Rotas and be happy, we're not going to change each other's minds.

[JDMjoe]

So you agree that Rotas are high quality, since a ton of people rock them for track.



Like I said before, no matter what wheels you're using on track, dilligent use is the most important factor.

This thread is getting pointless. You'll always think Rotas suck and will break on track. I'll keep using Rotas and be happy, we're not going to change each other's minds.
I would agree with you on this lol

[Mr. Clean]

Alright im done whoreing out this thread................

what happened to that?

[JDMjoe]

what happened to that?
CAN'T..........STOP...........POSTING

[Mr. Clean]

CAN'T..........STOP...........POSTING

haha... i've noticed... well i just got dissed on another thread cause i was messing with some newbies and then got called out cause im a noob myself in the scheme of things :( ... i was on a roll too haha

[JDMjoe]

haha... i've noticed... well i just got dissed on another thread cause i was messing with some newbies and then got called out cause im a noob myself in the scheme of things :( ... i was on a roll too haha
Your an idiot, your anal about grammer. Yes you are but just a noob yourself. Bigdare23 said noob on noob crime lol.

[Mr. Clean]

eh well it was pretty fun. those guys were ****in retarded and they just kept coming back... i love their last comments... it was like comments at the end of a fight in a movie from 1984 haha

[chituntang]

Sometimes it is all about JDM. If you have the money, why not?
But when you do not, go for something which cost less.

[Mr. Clean]

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHA rota FTW because they may be cheap but they still look good B*TCHES ::EDIT:: 32:28

[cdhtang]

Just save up money for the wheels. You get what you pay for, just run some pot holes with the rotas. Welcome to Georgia.
If you don't care your wheels bend, rotas.

[mocha latte cupcake]

SPOON /THREAD....

[Mr. Clean]

SPOON /THREAD....

but the people have spoken! and rota won the board :ninja:

[spacelion]

So you agree that Rotas are high quality, since a ton of people rock them for track.



Like I said before, no matter what wheels you're using on track, dilligent use is the most important factor.

This thread is getting pointless. You'll always think Rotas suck and will break on track. I'll keep using Rotas and be happy, we're not going to change each other's minds.

No, you don't seem to understand what I'm saying. Rotas are NOT high quality. That's why I PERSONALLY wouldn't use them on the track, and if you're smart, you wouldn't either. And your dilligent use of your rotas will probably result in a broken wheel.

Someone lock this thread for real.

[Mr. Clean]

No, you don't seem to understand what I'm saying. Rotas are NOT high quality. That's why I PERSONALLY wouldn't use them on the track, and if you're smart, you wouldn't either. And your dilligent use of your rotas will probably result in a broken wheel.

Someone lock this thread for real.

jesus man, your about a week late

[spacelion]

jesus man, your about a week late

LOL I know, just was super bored and decided to see what happened to this shiitt.

[Mr. Clean]

haha as JDMjoe86 said... this thread just won't end haha, some more crap just keeps coming up, but hey... its a hot subject (or at least was)

[yudalicious]

No, you don't seem to understand what I'm saying. Rotas are NOT high quality. That's why I PERSONALLY wouldn't use them on the track, and if you're smart, you wouldn't either. And your dilligent use of your rotas will probably result in a broken wheel.

Someone lock this thread for real.

Relax, the first part was a joke. This thread is done. There will always be people (like you) who think Rotas are imminently close to failing and there will always be people (like me) who will continue to use them without problems. It's funny that there's an old thread somewhere in this exact subforum where someone (like you) was convinced that Rotas are crap and mine will break - still waiting for that to happen.

[Mr. Clean]

hey you guys keep it up... the bump got 2 more votes! haha

[mocha latte cupcake]

and the board along with this site are filled with n00bs..... so there ya go..


noob = ROTA

Enthusiast and experience = Spoon...

way to rep rota what what...

[Mr. Clean]

and the board along with this site are filled with n00bs..... so there ya go..


noob = ROTA

Enthusiast and experience = Spoon...

way to rep rota what what...

how do you see who voted... i know at one point i could but now... can't figure it out for the life of me.

[mocha latte cupcake]

you can see who voted if the poll originator selected the "make poll public" choice... but now all you can see is that you're vote was cast.... and i can see it b/c....


"i use the force" :ninja:

[Mr. Clean]

you can see who voted if the poll originator selected the "make poll public" choice... but now all you can see is that you're vote was cast.... and i can see it b/c....


"i use the force" :ninja:

the force is strong with this one

[v8killacivic]

go with the rota...save the $$$$$

[japan4racing]

prime hammers ftw

[xlilvi3tx]

f**k it and get that jdm steelies yo. extra light and strong as volks!!! got many colors and looks great for a low price of $30 each. badass price for some "real jdm" s**t

[DaMaGe ZWK]

looks like the spoons are ahead now.... :goodjob:

[japan4racing]

what poll were you looking at? the one im looking at has rota by 5

[DaMaGe ZWK]

24+14=38 (spoon)
29+7=36 (rota)

[Mr. Clean]

24+14=38 (spoon)
29+7=36 (rota)

yeah thats the official math im going with... not each individual response but spoon vs. rota +1 for knowing what your doing haha

[japan4racing]

24+14=38 (spoon)
29+7=36 (rota)

ahh i got ya....i was thinking that the one with the most votes was the in the lead....what the hell kinda logic was that??? im an idiot

[allmotoronly]

If you want wheels that are functional lightweight wheels, go with the spoon. If you want to look like you have spoon wheels, but dont care about the weight difference, go with rota. I think the rota's are about 3 times heavier than the SW388's

[Mr. Clean]

40:40 .... the pole never stops!

[DaMaGe ZWK]

40:40 .... the pole never stops!
actually it stops 12-9-07... hehe

[Mr. Clean]

actually it stops 12-9-07... hehe

oh your so clever :jester:

[DUBSf22c]

there is a thread on one of my suby forums where the rota boosts just went bye bye on heavy driving!

[mocha latte cupcake]

yep rota FT cheap and terrible..... i like losing my whole car b/c i was too cheap to buy good wheels

ROTA FTEAD! >>>> for the eat a ****

[Scotsman]

i voted spoon cuz i'm a whore , jdm or gtfo!

[mocha latte cupcake]

i wish i could quote you good sir! but alas i can not... sigh no more sig room

[Scotsman]

i wish i could quote you good sir! but alas i can not... sigh no more sig roomrepped for "JDM":goodjob:

[mocha latte cupcake]

returned good sir :D

[Scotsman]

i am soooooooooooooooooooooooo pi ssed that rota is re-producin the cf-48's , WHAT THE FACK , can no one be og anymore?

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am i the only person on IA that doesn't really see why you would buy some spoon sw388's when the rota slipstreams look almost identical.

yes blah blah blah they are fake but they look identical and 97% of the people that buy them for weight reasons are never going to do anything worth the weight reduction of what?... 15lbs. that your gonna save.

in my opinion if you buy these you are just a whore... simple as that, because there are no major functional differences when your putting them on a 140hp civic.

who gives a f*** (i have evos :tongue1: :yes: )

[.blank cd]

i am soooooooooooooooooooooooo pi ssed that rota is re-producin the cf-48's , WHAT THE FACK , can no one be og anymore?
wtf is a cf-48?

BTW i was in your town (Winder) the other day. Yall gotta small ass city

[Scotsman]

wtf is a cf-48?

BTW i was in your town (Winder) the other day. Yall gotta small ass cityi lirl when you asked what a cf-48 was , Winder ftw!

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I seriously passed thru 3 citys within a 10 mile drive. wtf.

[CANCER]

am i the only person on IA that doesn't really see why you would buy some spoon sw388's when the rota slipstreams look almost identical.

yes blah blah blah they are fake but they look identical and 97% of the people that buy them for weight reasons are never going to do anything worth the weight reduction of what?... 15lbs. that your gonna save.

in my opinion if you buy these you are just a whore... simple as that, because there are no major functional differences when your putting them on a 140hp civic.

don't get me wrong... i love me some JDM hottness and there are some situations in which fake or imitation wheels are absolutely awful so this debate should mostly go for this style wheel. and let's not too personal here

the pictures below are of the rota and the spoon... i think the big one is the rota and the small one is the spoon

alright well let the debate begin. in the words of MXC Challenge "LET'S GET IT ON!"

Thats like saying "lets go buy a hyundia cause its cheap and looks similar to a honda."

[Mr. Clean]

Thats like saying "lets go buy a hyundia cause its cheap and looks similar to a honda."

yeah boy... cause a $1300 set of wheels is def. comparable to a $13-16,000 car...

that's not a reasonable argument by any means. most people won't get a hyundai because they can't afford a honda. they're just going to get a cheaper honda. and you dont buy a honda because your concerned about weight reduction from a hyundai, and MOST people arent going to break the bank and buy a brand new honda simply for the fact that they are a honda whore. AND hyundai's dont even look similar to honda!

so try another analogy and we'll go from there

[JDMjoe]

F*ck hyundai and rotas! :taun: :taun: :taun:

[Mr. Clean]

i agree with the hyundai part

[DaMaGe ZWK]

hmmm i wonder where he got that from.... my fs thread for my spoons maybe?

thanks man... nah im not they type to put a hyundai up for sale and say its a honda... I dont lie