Really, What does it take?

[SL65AMG]

What does it take to build a race car? Not a top end alcohol dragster but one that is competitive, one that would win races but not be so expensive its only done with sponsorships.

20 grand? All-motor, btw, too much **** breaks with high boost. (and yes i know, **** breaks n/a as well)


i guess id need to know a few things....
is a tube chassis front end necessary?
what would be competitive? 10 sec? 11 sec? 8 sec? (1/4 mi)

ill add more as i think of it.

[SE-Rious1]

well my bro races cars for peahstate and he does like $20k on his cars to build and then keep up cause usually ya use engine alot he swapped out every other race.
he won 1st place a couple or so times


but if you taling straight track my buddy does it in his coupe 5.0 and he runs low 12's about $10k in engine

[SL65AMG]

he swapped an engine every other race??? damn?


i mean if the **** aint broken and its still running good why replace it? is it necessary?

[SE-Rious1]

he swapped an engine every other race??? damn?


i mean if the **** aint broken and its still running good why replace it? is it necessary?


becuse the way the cars are =geared and all the stress and racing puts wear on the engines easy and all u need is for it to crap out during a race then you lose more money by not finishing

[SL65AMG]

becuse the way the cars are =geared and all the stress and racing puts wear on the engines easy and all u need is for it to crap out during a race then you lose more money by not finishing


even with a fully sleeved motor and built everything?



and this would be a track car only.....


probably a crx, b20 build or h22.

[SE-Rious1]

even with a fully sleeved motor and built everything?



and this would be a track car only.....


probably a crx, b20 build or h22.
in any car it takes money to maintain no matter how u are racing it ive seen cars with brand new $20k engines blow on first runs its sucks unless u have the time and money its a bad idea cause my bro is getting out of it he spend over $100,000 last year just on his car for weekend racing during season:no:

[SL65AMG]

in any car it takes money to maintain no matter how u are racing it ive seen cars with brand new $20k engines blow on first runs its sucks unless u have the time and money its a bad idea cause my bro is getting out of it he spend over $100,000 last year just on his car for weekend racing during season:no:

i mean it all depends on certain factors, yes.

you wouldnt do it at all?

what about bracket racing? just build a pretty quick, reliable car but not be all out in the competition yet. start small....

[SE-Rious1]

i mean it all depends on certain factors, yes.

you wouldnt do it at all?

what about bracket racing? just build a pretty quick, reliable car but not be all out in the competition yet. start small....
lol u always start small cause just when u think u have a quick car there is always quicker
but yeah i mean my buddy has a SE-R with a VE swap and just n/a is running almost 12's and he dont have much in it just the engine.
find cars like crx's,SE-R etc. and find a good palce to get parts thorugh and stick with that one place so you can build cred and sponsor lol

[SL65AMG]

lol u always start small cause just when u think u have a quick car there is always quicker
but yeah i mean my buddy has a SE-R with a VE swap and just n/a is running almost 12's and he dont have much in it just the engine.
find cars like crx's,SE-R etc. and find a good palce to get parts thorugh and stick with that one place so you can build cred and sponsor lol

obviously startin small. got any shop recommendations? maybe a machine shop too

[SE-Rious1]

obviously startin small. got any shop recommendations? maybe a machine shop too


dude idk who it is he may be on here of peps know him but at tunerfest some latino dude in a 1st gen rx7 with a 13b swap or w/e running low 13's stock lol
hell the car looked rough but he was getting it done i was like damn!!
looked like a $800 bucks car :rolleyes:

[SE-Rious1]

obviously startin small. got any shop recommendations? maybe a machine shop too


nah i cant think right now its getting late but if i can ill let ya know

[SL65AMG]

cool thanks bro

[live~sideway]

autofab motorsports built me a e30 drift car\ street weekend car. i should be running low 12's high 11's. it was about 20 grand its completely gutted with suspension engineand full roll cage. running on 14 pounds of boost which i could daily drive on if i wanted to.

[SL65AMG]

oh ok. but thats a drift car isnt it?

[Thighs]

are you trying to build a fag racer? ...err drag racer? lol
jk but yeah you will go thru motors like toilet paper.

[SL65AMG]

are you trying to build a fag racer? ...err drag racer? lol
jk but yeah you will go thru motors like toilet paper.

what kind of racing you like?

[Dietcoke]

If your friend put 10 grand in the MOTOR of a 5.0 coupe and he's only in the 12s then he needs to SERIOUSLY re-evaluate what he's trying to accomplish.

He should be deep into the 10s, if not 9s. Thats a stupid cheap platform to make fast

[SL65AMG]

If your friend put 10 grand in the MOTOR of a 5.0 coupe and he's only in the 12s then he needs to SERIOUSLY re-evaluate what he's trying to accomplish.

He should be deep into the 10s, if not 9s. Thats a stupid cheap platform to make fast
no kidding man. 10 grand and you could have 600-800 hp

[live~sideway]

oh ok. but thats a drift car isnt it?

yeah but im saying for less than what i paid you can have a daily driveable car and be in the 12's or 11's. it doesnt have to be a drift car. it all depends on your platform.

[speedminded]

What does it take to build a race car? Not a top end alcohol dragster but one that is competitive, one that would win races but not be so expensive its only done with sponsorships.

20 grand? All-motor, btw, too much **** breaks with high boost. (and yes i know, **** breaks n/a as well)


i guess id need to know a few things....
is a tube chassis front end necessary?
what would be competitive? 10 sec? 11 sec? 8 sec? (1/4 mi)

ill add more as i think of it.Why don't you specify what typing of racing? There's literally dozens of forms of racing automobiles BUT making money at any form of racing is next to impossible until you're in the big leagues with top sponsors. One you add in entrance fees, tow vehicle & operating costs, the car itself, tires, fuel, etc. then look at the winnings you'll see there is no profit.

Once you decide what you want to race, whether it's drag, road course, circle track or whatever then you need to get the rule books on all the differant classes and build the car from there.

If you want drag and do bracket racing then you don't need the fastest car, you want a consistant car.

[josh green]

I think you should talk to someone who actually has what you are talking about. Not just hearsay. All motor is probably more expensive than turbo. To be competitive in a sanctioned series in an all motor class you are going to need AT LEAST 280-300whp. As of now there is only a street tire class in sportsman racing. Pro, you will need $50k or more. Professionally built racing engines dont blow up on the 1st pass, bad tuning or a mis-shift blows a car up on the 1st pass.
Prostock was a low 12 second class and that on street radials not slicks.
SFWD/TS is a turbo sportsman class that runs low 9's and slower. But sfwd guys have anywhere from $10k-$50k in a car.
For $20k you should be able to build a very solid race car that looks good and has tons of parts to make it go fast. But its up to YOU to make it fast.

[B18c1Turboed]

Shoot for 20K you can buy my car 800+ civic..... PM if intrested!!! Includes trailor

[93H22ACX]

if you want to be "competitive" look at NDRA / NHRA websites and take a look at the qualifying and elmination rounds for the class that you want to race in if its drag racing.

from there on, you try to make as much power as you can with the money you have and get crap load of seat time to make it work. Car can make all the power in the world if you cant drive it you WON'T be competitive.

[sk8ercof316]

Money and Knowledge. That is all.

[sk8ercof316]

autofab motorsports built me a e30 drift car\ street weekend car. i should be running low 12's high 11's. it was about 20 grand its completely gutted with suspension engineand full roll cage. running on 14 pounds of boost which i could daily drive on if i wanted to.
You're from e30tech.com
Got any pics of this car you speak of?

[speedminded]

You're from e30tech.com
Got any pics of this car you speak of?I have them, i'll post them if you tell me about the car in your sig please...is it yours?!!

[sk8ercof316]

I have them, i'll post them if you tell me about the car in your sig please...is it yours?!!
I wasn't even talking to you. You post the pics first, then I'll tell ya about the car. :goodjob:

[speedminded]

I wasn't even talking to you. You post the pics first, then I'll tell ya about the car. :goodjob:I'm the only person in the world that had the pics fool :slap: ...and I already posted them in the Car Pics forum.

[Bballjamal]

lol

[changaroo]

I have them, i'll post them if you tell me about the car in your sig please...is it yours?!!

dont worry the car isnt his, he probably doesnt know anything about it either :P IIRC, he drives a white e30.

[speedminded]

dont worry the car isnt his, he probably doesnt know anything about it either :P IIRC, he drives a white e30.I know, just making a point that having someone elses car in your sig is disgraceful.

[sk8ercof316]

I know, just making a point that having someone elses car in your sig is disgraceful.
Not if it's totally badass. :D

[sk8ercof316]

dont worry the car isnt his, he probably doesnt know anything about it either :P IIRC, he drives a white e30.
I do know a lot about that car for your info. So STFU. :2up:
Yes, I do drive a white e30.

[changaroo]

I do know a lot about that car for your info. So STFU. :2up:
Yes, I do drive a white e30.
maybe one day your car will look half as good as the one in your sig.

[Elbow]

No matter what you race, stuff breaks, money is spent, to win you need more money then to have fun, it is ALL ABOUT THE MONEY. MONEY MONEY MONEY. ;)

[sk8ercof316]

maybe one day your car will look half as good as the one in your sig.
lmao. So, what do you drive? A cavalier? :lmfao:

My car is just the way I want it. It already looks good. I could careless what other people say about it, as long as I like it.

[sk8ercof316]

No matter what you race, stuff breaks, money is spent, to win you need more money then to have fun, it is ALL ABOUT THE MONEY. MONEY MONEY MONEY. ;)
Yup, like that old saying, "money makes the world go round."

[speedminded]

No matter what you race, stuff breaks, money is spent, to win you need more money then to have fun, it is ALL ABOUT THE MONEY. MONEY MONEY MONEY. ;)To make a fortune racing you have to start with an even larger fortune ;)

[speedminded]

I do know a lot about that car for your info. So STFU. :2up:
Yes, I do drive a white e30.It have an S14 engine?

[sk8ercof316]

It have an S14 engine?
Remember what you said, "he probably doesn't even know anything about that car." Well, how would I know? Since I obviously know nothing about it, as you stated earlier. :rolleyes:

[speedminded]

Remember what you said, "he probably doesn't even know anything about that car." Well, how would I know? Since I obviously know nothing about it, as you stated earlier. :rolleyes:Try again, I said it's disgraceful to have someone else's car in your signature AND i'm the one that asked for info on the car fool :slap:

[sk8ercof316]

Try again, I said it's disgraceful to have someone else's car in your signature AND i'm the one that asked for info on the car fool :slap:
My mistake, I just realized that. I think it has the S52 swap in it. Let me see if I can find the bookmark. I originally found the car on some german site while searching for e30 forums on google. The text is in all german, but from the looks of the motor, it's an S50 or S52.