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SE-Rious1
10-15-2007, 05:49 PM
ok so i was outside playing around with my car and my 76 yearold neihbor was outside walking her chihuahua this dog is her baby and her life and i saw them and said hi. well i go inside for a second and come back out with my moms and we see this black and white pitbull run across the street and grab the dog up shaking it like a ragdoll or a chewtoy people wur stoping in the road trying to help finally the dog ran off but after doing its damage.
I grab the dog up and took it to the vet they checked it over and said it had crushed ribs,punchured lungs and broke back. It had to be put down.......

It took animal control 45min just to come out and they still havent found the pitbull but from what was herd it has killed a poodle and attacked 3 other people before:no:

Im worried because i have 2 chihuahua's myself:cry:

Deke
10-15-2007, 05:53 PM
Sorry to hear it man.

Keep a gun handy.

SE-Rious1
10-15-2007, 05:56 PM
Sorry to hear it man.

Keep a gun handy.
yeah i know but i told the control guy if it comes near mine im unloading my 380 on it and he said no to only call them psh! riiiight

quickdodge®
10-15-2007, 06:38 PM
OH ****!!! QUICK!!! EVERYONE BLAME ALL OWNERS OF THESE DOGS BECAUSE THEY ARE INCAPABLE OF ACTING THIS WAY ON THEIR OWN!!!!

That sucks, dude. That dog does need to found and dealt with. Hopefully this dog is found before it finds anther victim. If you see it, I wouldn't do **** to it unless your(or someone else-human) life or health is at risk. Good luck. Later, QD.

SE-Rious1
10-15-2007, 09:38 PM
OH ****!!! QUICK!!! EVERYONE BLAME ALL OWNERS OF THESE DOGS BECAUSE THEY ARE INCAPABLE OF ACTING THIS WAY ON THEIR OWN!!!!

That sucks, dude. That dog does need to found and dealt with. Hopefully this dog is found before it finds anther victim. If you see it, I wouldn't do **** to it unless your(or someone else-human) life or health is at risk. Good luck. Later, QD.
well unless its in my yard i wont do anything but if it is as much as i hate the idea ill try to shoot it cause this pitbull has a taste for blood and no one can tell when it will strike next. I like pitbulls and have had many before in my life and used to breed them so i know when one does these kinda acts it has been raised wrongly.:(

Smittie61984
10-15-2007, 10:20 PM
I don't buy into this whole "Raised Wrongly" or "Bad Owners" bit when it comes to Pit Bulls. Dogs are bred for a reason. I have a Border Collie and it exhibits herding qualities that Border Collies are known for. My friend has a Lab that if it sees a small pond is going to bolt for it.

Pitbulls have a history of killing people, children, pets, etc. And either A) people who buy pitbulls are in general idiots and the dog is raised wrongly. or B ) The Dogs have a natural instinct to kill things. And I guess there is a C) option which is both A&B.

Now wether you are a bad owner or not. Why risk loosing everything you have worked for on a dog known for attacking people?

SL65AMG
10-15-2007, 11:15 PM
ok so i was outside playing around with my car and my 76 yearold neihbor was outside walking her chihuahua this dog is her baby and her life and i saw them and said hi. well i go inside for a second and come back out with my moms and we see this black and white pitbull run across the street and grab the dog up shaking it like a ragdoll or a chewtoy people wur stoping in the road trying to help finally the dog ran off but after doing its damage.
I grab the dog up and took it to the vet they checked it over and said it had crushed ribs,punchured lungs and broke back. It had to be put down.......

It took animal control 45min just to come out and they still havent found the pitbull but from what was herd it has killed a poodle and attacked 3 other people before:no:

Im worried because i have 2 chihuahua's myself:cry:

sounds like you have too many tiny dogs(and i use that word loosely) and not enough big guns....

SE-Rious1
10-15-2007, 11:36 PM
sounds like you have too many tiny dogs(and i use that word loosely) and not enough big guns....
well the days of having my pitbulls and boxers are over had to down grade with the area i live in to many peps:(

3.5altman
10-16-2007, 03:04 AM
Sorry to hear it man.

Keep a gun handy.

i heard that, im scared of pits lol...

Frög
10-16-2007, 03:07 AM
Im worried because i have 2 chihuahua's myself:cry:

hahaha you have 2 chihuahua's!! :gay:

lol

quickdodge®
10-16-2007, 04:28 AM
used to breed them so i know when one does these kinda acts it has been raised wrongly.:(

Not to diss you too bad, but if this what you "know," then you don't "know" ****. Later, QD.

~GILLEY~
10-16-2007, 04:43 AM
Not to diss you too bad, but if this what you "know," then you don't "know" ****. Later, QD.
what are you trying to say? is it that all pit bulls are bad bc i have 4 and there are the bst dogs on earth.

quickdodge®
10-16-2007, 04:48 AM
what are you trying to say? is it that all pit bulls are bad bc i have 4 and there are the bst dogs on earth.

What I AM saying, and not trying to say, is that not one person on Earth can predict when or if a dog will snap. You can have a feather ****ing bed laid out for that goddamn dog every ****ing day and feed it the most expensive, best tasting(to a dog) food every ****ing day and wipe it's ****ing ass every ****ing day and pamper the total **** out of that dog every ****ing day and that dog can still turn around and maul the **** out of you. You don't know. The rearing of a dog is a factor in it's demeanor. But a dog is an animal. If you think that just because dogs are "man's best friends" that that same best friend doesn't have the capability to turn and lock down on your throat one day, then you deserve to get locked down on. People are easy to forget that dogs have natural animal instinct.

PS. "bst dogs on earth" is just opinion. Later, QD.

3.5altman
10-16-2007, 07:20 AM
damn, i herad that qd!

Glides
10-16-2007, 08:30 AM
I don't buy into this whole "Raised Wrongly" or "Bad Owners" bit when it comes to Pit Bulls. Dogs are bred for a reason. I have a Border Collie and it exhibits herding qualities that Border Collies are known for. My friend has a Lab that if it sees a small pond is going to bolt for it.

Pitbulls have a history of killing people, children, pets, etc. And either A) people who buy pitbulls are in general idiots and the dog is raised wrongly. or B ) The Dogs have a natural instinct to kill things. And I guess there is a C) option which is both A&B.

Now wether you are a bad owner or not. Why risk loosing everything you have worked for on a dog known for attacking people?

Actually. Pit Bulls are bred for fighting other dogs. They are not normally known in the Pit Bull circles as people biters. That is why they are used for fighting, because they will normally focus on the other dog and not the handler coming in to break it up. Sort of how it attacked her dog and not her, see how that works.

German Shephards, Rotweillers and Dobermans are normally people biters.

So if a Pit is biting people, odds are that is HAS been raised wrongly and taught to bite people.

What the OP has to think about is, if that dog has attacked that many people and you can see people just walking down your street. If you pull out your firearm and start wildly firing (because let's face it, unless you are combat trained, you are going to fire wildly, and probably even if you are trained, you will probably still fire wildly) you are bound to launch a bullet into a house, a child, someones car, a mailbox or something else other than that dog, you will get in way more trouble. If it's not attacking you, don't **** with it. Call the dog cops and help em find it.

1000cckiller
10-16-2007, 08:36 AM
Not to diss you too bad, but if this what you "know," then you don't "know" ****. Later, QD.QFT

1000cckiller
10-16-2007, 08:48 AM
Actually. Pit Bulls are bred for fighting other dogs. They are not normally known in the Pit Bull circles as people biters. That is why they are used for fighting, because they will normally focus on the other dog and not the handler coming in to break it up. Sort of how it attacked her dog and not her, see how that works.

German Shephards, Rotweillers and Dobermans are normally people biters.

So if a Pit is biting people, odds are that is HAS been raised wrongly and taught to bite people.

What the OP has to think about is, if that dog has attacked that many people and you can see people just walking down your street. If you pull out your firearm and start wildly firing (because let's face it, unless you are combat trained, you are going to fire wildly, and probably even if you are trained, you will probably still fire wildly) you are bound to launch a bullet into a house, a child, someones car, a mailbox or something else other than that dog, you will get in way more trouble. If it's not attacking you, don't **** with it. Call the dog cops and help em find it.Actually no not this dog(bold). Unless trained to do so. I own two pits and one German Shephard, niether have tried to attack anything. But I can only wonder sometimes what the pits are thinking. Pits dont have to be raised any kind of way, for their natural order to take over.

SixSquared
10-16-2007, 09:41 AM
*sigh* Here's my .02 on the situation:

ANY animal, not just dogs, can turn on an owner. Domesticated or not, you see animals that have "never displayed any signs of aggression", that one day just decide they've had enough. It's always a big ****ing deal when a pit bull does it because they have a LOT of negative connotations being thrown their way, and there are people out there who want to believe that they are the root of all evil when it comes to canine behavior. I was watching the news down here the other day, and a dog had bitten a kid... They showed pictures of the dog, and it looked like a lab... floppy ears, thinner nose/face, about 1.5" long hair... If I saw it walking down the street, I would have assumed it was a lab. On the news, they were all like "It's believed the dog is a pitbull mix." The next day, the owner of the dog called the station/newspaper bitching them out... the dog wasn't a pitbull mix at all. The apartment complex that the dog lived in doesn't allow pits/rotties/dobermans/etc because there are a lot of kids there.

If a border collie bites someone, then no one hears about it. A pit bull bites someone, it's all over the news. It sucks, because they're great dogs with a really bad rap.

And it is only recently, too... 10-15 years ago, you didn't hear a new story every night about a vicious, bloodthirsty pit bull who had gone on a rampage. If they even made mention of a dog bite/attack, it was just that... a DOG. Now, a damn poodle could bite someone and they would say "It had a squared off face which means it had been crossed at somepoint with a pit bull". People blame this stuff on pit bulls because they want an explanation... people don't like to think that the dog that they snuggle with at home every night is, at its roots, an animal that at some point in time had to kill to survive. They don't want to think that their golden retriever might one day bite the hand that feeds, so they pick a dog that was originally bred for fighting and pigeonhole it.

And all you guys who are saying their "natural order" or whatever... how many regular bulldogs do you hear about attacking people? Bulldogs (yes like the UGA mascot) were bred for bullbaiting, just like pits were. Why is one dog getting the bad rep?

Killer
10-16-2007, 09:44 AM
i really don't understand how a grown human can be killed by a pitbul...

unless it's on roids and way bigger than the breed is intended to be (like the size of a shepard or rotti)...

like i've said before my dog is a bit shy of the weight he should be, BUT even if he was the 65 pounds that his body was built for.. there is no way he could kill me... maybe bite my leg/arm... but not get on my throat and kill me... period...

my pit is insanely strong... probably the strongest dog i've ever handled..... just yesterday we were rough housing and he started getting too rough... i snatched him up put him on his back and he calmed right down...

i know i'm the owner/alpha male so of course he's gonna back down, but my point is in the middle of his roughest moments i can find a way to restrain him.. and i don't see how others can't..

Glides
10-16-2007, 09:54 AM
Actually no not this dog(bold). Unless trained to do so. I own two pits and one German Shephard, niether have tried to attack anything. But I can only wonder sometimes what the pits are thinking. Pits dont have to be raised any kind of way, for their natural order to take over.

Actually, yea, that dog. That is why they are highly prized by law enforcement agencies, personal gaurd dog trainers and used as probably the most premier gaurd dog used by the government and private sector. They are also used for these purposes because of their huge degree of loyalty to their owners. They are, by nature, fearless of humans. That allows them to be much better suited to the protection and gaurd dog role. German Shephards have been raised for generations for these rolls. They do not include dog fighting.

A pit's natural roll is to fight other dogs. That is how they have been bred for generations, as pit dogs. They enjoy fighting other dogs. Put 2 on each side of a door and they will wimper and scratch to get to each other. They want to fight. They usually don't care about people as a general rule. Sure, there are exceptions to every rule, there always are. But rule of thumb is, Pits are dog biters, the other dogs I stated are people biters.

Any dog, not acclimated to humans will act aggressively towards them. Dogs raised by black people will usually be aggressive towards whites, and vice versa. Thats just how it is.

1000cckiller
10-16-2007, 10:00 AM
Actually, yea, that dog. That is why they are highly prized by law enforcement agencies, personal gaurd dog trainers and used as probably the most premier gaurd dog used by the government and private sector. They are also used for these purposes because of their huge degree of loyalty to their owners. They are, by nature, fearless of humans. That allows them to be much better suited to the protection and gaurd dog role. German Shephards have been raised for generations for these rolls. They do not include dog fighting.

A pit's natural roll is to fight other dogs. That is how they have been bred for generations, as pit dogs. They enjoy fighting other dogs. Put 2 on each side of a door and they will wimper and scratch to get to each other. They want to fight. They usually don't care about people as a general rule. Sure, there are exceptions to every rule, there always are. But rule of thumb is, Pits are dog biters, the other dogs I stated are people biters.

Any dog, not acclimated to humans will act aggressively towards them. Dogs raised by black people will usually be aggressive towards whites, and vice versa. Thats just how it is.WTF are you talking about? Also German Shephards arent bitters unless trained to do so like I said. Trained would be by the police that use them. German Shepards are protective of their owners, that why they are the best dogs to own. But that black people dogs will be aggresive to white people is full of s***

Glides
10-16-2007, 10:59 AM
WTF are you talking about? Also German Shephards arent bitters unless trained to do so like I said. Trained would be by the police that use them. German Shepards are protective of their owners, that why they are the best dogs to own. But that black people dogs will be aggresive to white people is full of s***

Man, you don't pay much attention to animals do you? Animals, much like people, when raised around one type of people, can exhibit hostility towards another set of people. Add in the fact that dogs are color blind (not proven, some say they are, some say they aren't) but the general consensous agrees that they are, and you have the possibility for this behaviour to occur. Dogs are keyed in pretty well to their owners, if the owner is white and doesn't like blacks, the dog picks up those traits. Vice versa happens there as well. You really need to research things you write before shooting your mouth off.


Let me make the German Shepherd thing easier for you to understand. These agencies, police, government or whatever do not use pit bulls. They rarely ever do because Pit Bulls do not show the same traits as Shepherds do when placed in a situation towards a human. Shepherds are more prone and much better at ease in aggressiveness towards humans. That is one of the reasons they use them. I know you are a fanboy of Sheperds but damm man, use your brain. If they weren't doing the things instinctively that the agencies need them for, why would they use them? Thats like turning a Civic into a Rockcrawler. Sure, it can be done, but why bother when another vehicle is much better suited to do it.

Use Google, it's your friend.

1000cckiller
10-16-2007, 11:10 AM
Man, you don't pay much attention to animals do you? Animals, much like people, when raised around one type of people, can exhibit hostility towards another set of people. Add in the fact that dogs are color blind (not proven, some say they are, some say they aren't) but the general consensous agrees that they are, and you have the possibility for this behaviour to occur. Dogs are keyed in pretty well to their owners, if the owner is white and doesn't like blacks, the dog picks up those traits. Vice versa happens there as well. You really need to research things you write before shooting your mouth off.


Let me make the German Shepherd thing easier for you to understand. These agencies, police, government or whatever do not use pit bulls. They rarely ever do because Pit Bulls do not show the same traits as Shepherds do when placed in a situation towards a human. Shepherds are more prone and much better at ease in aggressiveness towards humans. That is one of the reasons they use them. I know you are a fanboy of Sheperds but damm man, use your brain. If they weren't doing the things instinctively that the agencies need them for, why would they use them? Thats like turning a Civic into a Rockcrawler. Sure, it can be done, but why bother when another vehicle is much better suited to do it.

Use Google, it's your friend.You need to quit using the internet as your source of info. Most of it is full of ****. Dumb....dumb. I use to work for the Police department, and I also handled k-9 dogs. Most reasons we used shepards are because they are smart, reliable, protective and trust worthy. So before telling me, know what the person you are talking to has done in his life before.

Also popular to your believe, show me where my dogs would be more aggresive to a white person. My best friends are white, and they are always around my dogs. So as I stated those statements are full of ****.

Killer
10-16-2007, 11:14 AM
Man, you don't pay much attention to animals do you? Animals, much like people, when raised around one type of people, can exhibit hostility towards another set of people. Add in the fact that dogs are color blind (not proven, some say they are, some say they aren't) but the general consensous agrees that they are, and you have the possibility for this behaviour to occur. Dogs are keyed in pretty well to their owners, if the owner is white and doesn't like blacks, the dog picks up those traits. Vice versa happens there as well. You really need to research things you write before shooting your mouth off.


Let me make the German Shepherd thing easier for you to understand. These agencies, police, government or whatever do not use pit bulls. They rarely ever do because Pit Bulls do not show the same traits as Shepherds do when placed in a situation towards a human. Shepherds are more prone and much better at ease in aggressiveness towards humans. That is one of the reasons they use them. I know you are a fanboy of Sheperds but damm man, use your brain. If they weren't doing the things instinctively that the agencies need them for, why would they use them? Thats like turning a Civic into a Rockcrawler. Sure, it can be done, but why bother when another vehicle is much better suited to do it.

Use Google, it's your friend.

we had a sharpe(spl) that hated blacks.... we lived in detroit and were one of the few white fams on the black... well little ni.g.glets would come by and throw rocks/sticks/mock our dog...

then anytime anyone that wasn't white walked by.. dog went ape ****.... but could care less when a white person went by...



and actually, my pit seems to bark more at black people than white.... but then again... maybe that's just a coincidence since i live in marietta.... and he pretty much doesn't bark anyway.

1000cckiller
10-16-2007, 11:15 AM
we had a sharpe(spl) that hated blacks.... we lived in detroit and were one of the few white fams on the black... well little ni.g.glets would come by and throw rocks/sticks/mock our dog...

then anytime anyone that wasn't white walked by.. dog went ape ****.... but could care less when a white person went by...



and actually, my pit seems to bark more at black people than white.... but then again... maybe that's just a coincidence since i live in marietta.... and he pretty much doesn't bark anyway.Killer you come to my house, my pits wont be aggresive to you, niether will my German Shephard.

Killer
10-16-2007, 11:18 AM
[/B]You need to quit using the internet as your source of info. Most of it is full of ****. Dumb....dumb. I use to work for the Police department, and I also handled k-9 dogs. Most reasons we used shepards are because they are smart, reliable, protective and trust worthy. So before telling me, know what the person you are talking to has done in his life before.

Also popular to your believe, show me where my dogs would be more aggresive to a white person. My best friends are white, and they are always around my dogs. So as I stated those statements are full of ****.

that's different... yours was brought up around whites and blacks so...

he's saying ones raised primarily white or primarily black... i think.


(and i'm not agreeing with him.. just trying to clear things up)

Killer
10-16-2007, 11:20 AM
Killer you come to my house, my pits wont be aggresive to you, niether will my German Shephard.

and i highly doubt mine would either.... my pit loves people... i'm just saying he seems to have barked more at some of the black kids at the bus stop... but maybe it was because they were walking up from behind my car and it startles him or something.

and my parents sharpe.. that's a different story...

1000cckiller
10-16-2007, 11:23 AM
that's different... yours was brought up around whites and blacks so...

he's saying ones raised primarily white or primarily black... i think.My dad has a pit too. So it has only been around a white person 4x. Everytime it lets the white person play with him, pat him, rub him, and so forth. So it was primarily raised around blacks, and I can name others who dogs are the exact same way.

Glides
10-16-2007, 12:05 PM
[/B]You need to quit using the internet as your source of info. Most of it is full of ****. Dumb....dumb. I use to work for the Police department, and I also handled k-9 dogs. Most reasons we used shepards are because they are smart, reliable, protective and trust worthy. So before telling me, know what the person you are talking to has done in his life before.

Also popular to your believe, show me where my dogs would be more aggresive to a white person. My best friends are white, and they are always around my dogs. So as I stated those statements are full of ****.


I really don't care who you worked for. Where did I say ALL dogs were like that? Did you study english much in the Police Department because you have spelled Shepherds wrong throughout this whole thread. You can't even spell the damm dogs name right. But you will argue breeding and all that with me. Get real man. I said dogs are apt to show these traits. I never once said they ALL showed them. Yours doesn't show them, Awesome.

You can argue this **** all day and say this and that and who you worked for til you are blue in the face. The fact remains what dogs are bred for, not what they are trained for. With the absence of training, dogs revert to heritage. Pits have been bred to fight dogs, Shepherds for use against people.
Shepherds are known for being timid and prone to fear biting. Here, let me help you with this.

http://www.dogbreedinfo.com/germanshepherd.htm
Nowhere in there is there any reference to dog on dog behaviour. But there is references to dog on people behaviour due to poor breeding, training or lack of human contact. Exactly what I said if you can actually read back in the thread.

Now Pit bulls.

http://www.dogbreedinfo.com/americanpitbull.htm

Now, read in the temperament section. By no means are thse dogs people aggressive. They are aggressive towards other dogs. Exactly what I said.

So talk all the **** you want. These aren't bull**** sites i'm getting this info from. Learn your damm dogs man before you run your mouth.

Glides
10-16-2007, 12:07 PM
and i highly doubt mine would either.... my pit loves people... i'm just saying he seems to have barked more at some of the black kids at the bus stop... but maybe it was because they were walking up from behind my car and it startles him or something.

and my parents sharpe.. that's a different story...

Some dogs do, some dogs don't. You can't tell What_lag any differently because he refuses to listen to anything except what he wants to hear. Best to just let him blow his wind out and move on. He was a cop you know, and cops don't usually listen to ****.

Spectic Tank
10-16-2007, 12:46 PM
OH ****!!! QUICK!!! EVERYONE BLAME ALL OWNERS OF THESE DOGS BECAUSE THEY ARE INCAPABLE OF ACTING THIS WAY ON THEIR OWN!!!!



I know you are being sarcastic, but the very fact that these dogs ARE capable of acting this way on their own is the very reason why the owner is at fault. If you buy a pitbull, then you know what they are capable of, and it becomes your responsibility to keep this dog from attacking animals/children/adults. Many dogs can be socialized when they are young and are very friendly with strangers and animals. That doesn't mean for a second that your dog won't turn and do something terrible.

Most of this responsibility falls on the breeders. NO PITBULL should ever be aggressive towards humans. This a trait that should be culled(if you don't know what that means, you have no business discussing pitbulls temperments and breeding standards), because in a pit fight(what these dogs were bred for) the owner has to be in the ring with his dog and can't be worried about being bitten. Many breeders today don't hold their dogs to the true pit bull standards, nor do they go through the proper requirements of breeding. I see people breeding bitches when they're only a year old. These dogs have never been temperment tested to even prove that they are worthy of breeding. NO dog should be bred before they are ATLEAST 3yrs. old when their true temperment can be tested. When breeding dogs properly you should never make a profit, because breeding healthy dogs true to their breed standards is very expensive.


Killer: I can almost gaurantee that if your dog wanted to kill/maim you it would be very capable.

Deke
10-16-2007, 01:18 PM
Dogs raised by black people will usually be aggressive towards whites, and vice versa. Thats just how it is.

I wouldn't say usually, but I have definitely seen it happen a lot.

quickdodge®
10-16-2007, 01:26 PM
I know you are being sarcastic,

I wasn't being sarcastic. It's a true statement. All pitbull owners think pitbulls are not able to attack something unless they are trained to. That pitbulls are not animals that have natural animal instincts. Pitbull owners are oblivious to the fact that any animal, no matter the upbringing can revert back to "natural animal" mode.


Many dogs can be socialized when they are young and are very friendly with strangers and animals. That doesn't mean for a second that your dog won't turn and do something terrible.

THIS IS THE WHOLE POINT OF WHAT I'M SAYING!

But pitbull owners disagree for some reason.

Most of this responsibility falls on the breeders. NO PITBULL should ever be


Killer: I can almost gaurantee that if your dog wanted to kill/maim you it would be very capable.

Exactly. No one is EVER 100% safe from their pit. This isn't to say your dog WILL do anything. He/she may have never stepped on an ant so as not to hurt it and may never it his/her life. But the fact is, "YOU DON'T KNOW." That's all I'm saying. Later, QD.

Killer
10-16-2007, 01:40 PM
Killer: I can almost gaurantee that if your dog wanted to kill/maim you it would be very capable.

i guess.. i just don't see how.. like i said.. yeah it could hurt me... get an arm or leg or finger... but i don't see how an adrenaline driven grown human being is gonna let a dog(unless it's just a huge freakin dog/mastiff/rotti/shepherd/dane) get close enough to kill you. but if there is one thing in this world that i'm not afraid of.. it's dogs...

don't get me wrong... i'm not gonna stick my hand through a fence and wait for one to bite me...

but as far as being worried about being attacked by any dog... on a chain, stray, in the woods, in a yard... i'm just not scared of them... i've had many many dogs "come at me" growling, snarling whatever... and always i stand my ground.. or tell them to shut up... and i've never been bitten/chased.. anything..

granted a pack of dogs could do some damage... but one 65 pound dog??? idk...

quickdodge®
10-16-2007, 01:43 PM
... and i've never been bitten/chased.. anything..

Damn, damn, damn. Later, QD.

Killer
10-16-2007, 01:46 PM
Damn, damn, damn. Later, QD.

yeah...

Killer
10-16-2007, 01:47 PM
i will say, if my dog wanted to suffocate me...




all he needs to do is fart one more time... i'm in tears right now he just let one.... :upchuck:

Spectic Tank
10-16-2007, 01:47 PM
i guess.. i just don't see how.. like i said.. yeah it could hurt me... get an arm or leg or finger... but i don't see how an adrenaline driven grown human being is gonna let a dog(unless it's just a huge freakin dog/mastiff/rotti/shepherd/dane) get close enough to kill you. but if there is one thing in this world that i'm not afraid of.. it's dogs...

don't get me wrong... i'm not gonna stick my hand through a fence and wait for one to bite me...

but as far as being worried about being attacked by any dog... on a chain, stray, in the woods, in a yard... i'm just not scared of them... i've had many many dogs "come at me" growling, snarling whatever... and always i stand my ground.. or tell them to shut up... and i've never been bitten/chased.. anything..


As much adrenaline as you have, it is no match for the pressure a dog(especially pit) can apply in one bite. Not to mention the fact that they can throw their wieght around a lot easier than you can, and have you on the ground(where the playing field is much more even) in a matter of seconds. Also, a pitbulls pain threshhold is much larger than any humans...no matter how hard you hit the dog it WILL NOT stop until it is dead. Not saying that it is impossible to escape a pitbull attack or even come out on top, but the odds are def. in the dogs favor.

Killer
10-16-2007, 01:54 PM
As much adrenaline as you have, it is no match for the pressure a dog(especially pit) can apply in one bite. Not to mention the fact that they can throw their wieght around a lot easier than you can, and have you on the ground(where the playing field is much more even) in a matter of seconds. Also, a pitbulls pain threshhold is much larger than any humans...no matter how hard you hit the dog it WILL NOT stop until it is dead. Not saying that it is impossible to escape a pitbull attack or even come out on top, but the odds are def. in the dogs favor.


yeah, i guess you're right... and you are for sure right as far as the amount of pain they can take.... i think they were created without a nervous system! lol... mine doesn't feel a thing... ever...

it's hilarious cause when excited he wags his tail crazily and will just beat it against a wall... or a corner or something.. and it doesn't bother him a bit... yet it sounds like a hammer!

SE-Rious1
10-16-2007, 01:59 PM
i had a pit it never bothered anyone in its life it was like a big baby people always came up and rubbed his head and played with him then one day it was like a flip of a switch one day 2 old jehovis witness ladies come up to my house and he goes crazy bites one and tears her dress off. She was going to sue me unless i had him put down so i had to do what i had to do:(

and QD when me and my family used to breed them it was with no champion bloodlines those are usually used for fighting.

Spectic Tank
10-16-2007, 02:01 PM
yeah, i guess you're right... and you are for sure right as far as the amount of pain they can take.... i think they were created without a nervous system! lol... mine doesn't feel a thing... ever...

it's hilarious cause when excited he wags his tail crazily and will just beat it against a wall... or a corner or something.. and it doesn't bother him a bit... yet it sounds like a hammer!

One of my good friends has a boxer who he lets run outside(he has a large yard). Well, one day after going out he comes to the back door with blood on his mouth. We check him out, he's not in pain/sensitive anywhere and he's full of energy. The doorbell rings about 15 seconds later and the woman at the door says, "I jus hit your dog goin about 30mph, and he just got up and kept running. I just wanted to make sure he was okay." I was like WTF!? The dog was completely fine and had just gotten hit by a car.

Spectic Tank
10-16-2007, 02:05 PM
and QD when me and my family used to breed them it was with no champion bloodlines those are usually used for fighting.

Bloodlines don't mean much of anything. It just means that your dog and all his ancestors have been registered. I would be more concerned with the titles the dog has won and what diciplines he is championed in. Also temperment testing and health certifications are extremely important.

BTW: ALL pits have dogfighting in their blood, it's what they were bred for. ALL of them have a large prey drive.

SE-Rious1
10-16-2007, 02:07 PM
I will say its just not pit so im not bashing only them
about 5 years ago at my dad's friends lake house he was a cop and had a Roc as his k9 unit well his wife came home with his lil girl a new dog it was a lab when the Roc saw the dog he jumped right on it and went right for the throat he had locked hios jaws so we couldnt do anything to get him off i mean we hit it with a bat,hott water,shovel everthing but nothing happin so he went inside his guncabnit for his 357. magnum and shot the dog 3 times before it would let go

Kelly
10-16-2007, 02:11 PM
I will say its just not pit so im not bashing only them
about 5 years ago at my dad's friends lake house he was a cop and had a Roc as his k9 unit well his wife came home with his lil girl a new dog it was a lab when the Roc saw the dog he jumped right on it and went right for the throat he had locked hios jaws so we couldnt do anything to get him off i mean we hit it with a bat,hott water,shovel everthing but nothing happin so he went inside his guncabnit for his 357. magnum and shot the dog 3 times before it would let go

dang!

SE-Rious1
10-16-2007, 02:12 PM
yeah talk about scaring for life i was like right beside him when he did it

Glides
10-16-2007, 02:17 PM
2 old jehovis witness ladies come up to my house and he goes crazy bites one and tears her dress off. She was going to sue me unless i had him put down so i had to do what i had to do:(



Sue you unless you killed it? Aren't they gods people? They sure as hell are when they come to my door on sunday morning bothering the **** out of me. Should have given her a lesson on gods word about live and let live. Certainly a dogs life isn't worth the price of a torn dress.

Religion is full of hypocrisy.

Killer
10-16-2007, 02:19 PM
One of my good friends has a boxer who he lets run outside(he has a large yard). Well, one day after going out he comes to the back door with blood on his mouth. We check him out, he's not in pain/sensitive anywhere and he's full of energy. The doorbell rings about 15 seconds later and the woman at the door says, "I jus hit your dog goin about 30mph, and he just got up and kept running. I just wanted to make sure he was okay." I was like WTF!? The dog was completely fine and had just gotten hit by a car.


lol i did the same thing with some sort of lab or retriever.. i felt horrible.... but the dog just got right up and pranced on towards it's house.. owner said it was fine so...

Kelly
10-16-2007, 02:23 PM
Sue you unless you killed it? Aren't they gods people? They sure as hell are when they come to my door on sunday morning bothering the **** out of me. Should have given her a lesson on gods word about live and let live. Certainly a dogs life isn't worth the price of a torn dress.

Religion is full of hypocrisy.

Feel better?

Frög
10-16-2007, 02:24 PM
I will say its just not pit so im not bashing only them
about 5 years ago at my dad's friends lake house he was a cop and had a Roc as his k9 unit well his wife came home with his lil girl a new dog it was a lab when the Roc saw the dog he jumped right on it and went right for the throat he had locked hios jaws so we couldnt do anything to get him off i mean we hit it with a bat,hott water,shovel everthing but nothing happin so he went inside his guncabnit for his 357. magnum and shot the dog 3 times before it would let go


yeah talk about scaring for life i was like right beside him when he did it

WTF?!? thats crazy.. and by the way he shot and killed a police officer..

Frög
10-16-2007, 02:27 PM
One of my good friends has a boxer who he lets run outside(he has a large yard). Well, one day after going out he comes to the back door with blood on his mouth. We check him out, he's not in pain/sensitive anywhere and he's full of energy. The doorbell rings about 15 seconds later and the woman at the door says, "I jus hit your dog goin about 30mph, and he just got up and kept running. I just wanted to make sure he was okay." I was like WTF!? The dog was completely fine and had just gotten hit by a car.

lol! rep'ed

SE-Rious1
10-16-2007, 02:28 PM
FROG Yes i know and he was released of his dutties for this act

C22H19N3O4
10-16-2007, 02:34 PM
There are people filing suit against cities banning pitbulls. They claim banning certain breeds constitutes some form of discrimination and violates the dogs civil rights. :lmfao:

It's a freakin' dog!

Killer
10-16-2007, 02:41 PM
There are people filing suit against cities banning pitbulls. They claim banning certain breeds constitutes some form of discrimination and violates the dogs civil rights. :lmfao:

It's a freakin' dog!


.... i saw we worry more about illegal immigrants before we ban any animal....

if you're bringing up civil rights anyway...

SE-Rious1
10-16-2007, 02:44 PM
Ok so get this s h i t i just found out that lastnight at sometime a person down the street's border collie was killed by another dog or wild animal shesh wounder which it was hmmm....
WTF!!

C22H19N3O4
10-16-2007, 02:48 PM
.... i saw we worry more about illegal immigrants before we ban any animal....

if you're bringing up civil rights anyway...

I think you missed the point of my post.

If my comment went over your head, the topic of banning dogs and illegal immigrants are the least of your worries.

1000cckiller
10-16-2007, 02:49 PM
I really don't care who you worked for. Where did I say ALL dogs were like that? Did you study english much in the Police Department because you have spelled Shepherds wrong throughout this whole thread. You can't even spell the damm dogs name right. But you will argue breeding and all that with me. Get real man. I said dogs are apt to show these traits. I never once said they ALL showed them. Yours doesn't show them, Awesome.

You can argue this **** all day and say this and that and who you worked for til you are blue in the face. The fact remains what dogs are bred for, not what they are trained for. With the absence of training, dogs revert to heritage. Pits have been bred to fight dogs, Shepherds for use against people.
Shepherds are known for being timid and prone to fear biting. Here, let me help you with this.

http://www.dogbreedinfo.com/germanshepherd.htm
Nowhere in there is there any reference to dog on dog behaviour. But there is references to dog on people behaviour due to poor breeding, training or lack of human contact. Exactly what I said if you can actually read back in the thread.

Now Pit bulls.

http://www.dogbreedinfo.com/americanpitbull.htm

Now, read in the temperament section. By no means are thse dogs people aggressive. They are aggressive towards other dogs. Exactly what I said.

So talk all the **** you want. These aren't bull**** sites i'm getting this info from. Learn your damm dogs man before you run your mouth.you are still full of ****, because pretty much you have been saying dogs are racist. So yeah you and those bull**** sites are full of ****.

Frög
10-16-2007, 02:50 PM
FROG Yes i know and he was released of his dutties for this act

for real? thats crazy! the dog was killing another dog.. he got fired for that?

SE-Rious1
10-16-2007, 02:52 PM
^yep cause it was seen as if he didnt think the dog was stable enough to be at home then he should have left it on the precinct kennel

Smittie61984
10-16-2007, 02:55 PM
Actually. Pit Bulls are bred for fighting other dogs. They are not normally known in the Pit Bull circles as people biters. That is why they are used for fighting, because they will normally focus on the other dog and not the handler coming in to break it up. Sort of how it attacked her dog and not her, see how that works.

German Shephards, Rotweillers and Dobermans are normally people biters.


Good point but kind of makes a point for me. If you live in a populated area and know that other dogs are around. Why have a dog that is bred to bite other dogs? It's asking for trouble. And if a pitbull does attack another dog then the owner of the dog is probably going to try to defend their dog which will cause the owner to be bit. Regardless if they are great pets or not. With thier history why risk loosing what you have worked for. It'd be like owning a Pinto and being suprised when you get rearended and your tank catches fire. Yes not all pintos explode when rearended. But they are a greater risk than if you are in a Toyota Camry.

As for the Rotweillers, Sheps, etc. I think I agree with you there. But I think their instinct is more to GRAB you like a police dog and lock down than to actually maul you. Which is why you see more pitbull kills.

Interestingly enough I think the Cocker Spaniel has the most human bites for a dog. But they aren't powerful dogs so they don't get reported or do as much damage as a pitbull.

And again. Not all pitbulls are bad. I know that. One of my dog's favorite dogs to play with was a pitbull. But even one as nice as my friends just showed characteristics that something that is meant to fight would have...
http://b2.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/00380/24/76/380726742_l.jpg

Spectic Tank
10-16-2007, 03:00 PM
Good point but kind of makes a point for me. If you live in a populated area and know that other dogs are around. Why have a dog that is bred to bite other dogs? It's asking for trouble.



If your dog is not socialized to be around other dogs then you as an owner should know that and keep them away from other dogs. If you can't control you dog then you shouldn't own one. It's only asking for trouble if YOU(as an owner) allow it to happen or even put the dog in a situation where there is a possibility of an attack.

Glides
10-16-2007, 03:01 PM
Feel better?

Much. Thank you for your concern. ;)

Glides
10-16-2007, 03:02 PM
you are still full of ****, because pretty much you have been saying dogs are racist. So yeah you and those bull**** sites are full of ****.

Lol ok buddy. Settle down Beavis. :screwy:

Killer
10-16-2007, 03:03 PM
I think you missed the point of my post.

If my comment went over your head, the topic of banning dogs and illegal immigrants are the least of your worries.


didn't go over my head at all jack ass....

you're talking about dogs having the same rights as a human...

worrying about banning a certain breed of dog because of the "problems" they cause instead of worrying about the problems illegal immigrants cause is whats stupid... and that's my point.. sorry it went over your head ****tard

Killer
10-16-2007, 03:07 PM
If your dog is not socialized to be around other dogs then you as an owner should know that and keep them away from other dogs. If you can't control you dog then you shouldn't own one. It's only asking for trouble if YOU(as an owner) allow it to happen or even put the dog in a situation where there is a possibility of an attack.

agreed, i know there are certain time to keep my dog away from others...

mainly because he doesn't understand his boundries...

he always assumes it's play time with other dogs... he was actually bitten by a corgie when he was a pup because he thought the dog growling and snapping meant it was play time.... (my dad put him outside and i had no idea he had done so)

same thing with my bosses shepherd... he always wants to lick the shepherds face/mouth and could care less when the shepherd get's pissed.. he again assumes it's play time and just starts jumping around

SixSquared
10-16-2007, 03:10 PM
One of my good friends has a boxer who he lets run outside(he has a large yard). Well, one day after going out he comes to the back door with blood on his mouth. We check him out, he's not in pain/sensitive anywhere and he's full of energy. The doorbell rings about 15 seconds later and the woman at the door says, "I jus hit your dog goin about 30mph, and he just got up and kept running. I just wanted to make sure he was okay." I was like WTF!? The dog was completely fine and had just gotten hit by a car.

My mom has a ~1 year old boxer, and she loooves to go outside, do a few laps around the front yard, then run back in.. she'll go over to the door and stand there til you let her out, do her laps, then come back in. I let her out one night to do her thing, and she kinda disappeared for a while. I was standing at the door calling her, and was like "ok... long run tonight", and literally as I was closing the door I see her out of the corner of my eye, about 5 feet from the door (porch lights weren't on). My brain didn't react fast enough to think "don't close the door!".... literally as it clicked shut, I hear this "WHAM!" on the other side. I'm thinking "fock... mom's dog is dead." Open the door, she's on the other side, panting and happy with blood on her lower jaw, wagging her tail.

Our steel entry door was dented and the oval leaded glass window was cracked up the center from the impact.

Bella: 1, Door: 0.

C22H19N3O4
10-16-2007, 03:10 PM
didn't go over my head at all jack ass....

you're talking about dogs having the same rights as a human...

worrying about banning a certain breed of dog because of the "problems" they cause instead of worrying about the problems illegal immigrants cause is whats stupid... and that's my point.. sorry it went over your head ****tard


It's obvious you and your girlfriend share a single brain cell. Get back to me when you get your GED. I apologize for being so harsh to the simple-minded. :rolleyes:

Killer
10-16-2007, 03:12 PM
It's obvious you and your girlfriend share a single brain cell. Get back to me when you get your GED. I apologize for being so harsh to the simple-minded. :rolleyes:


lol.... you have no idea bub... no idea....

Killer
10-16-2007, 03:14 PM
My mom has a ~1 year old boxer, and she loooves to go outside, do a few laps around the front yard, then run back in.. she'll go over to the door and stand there til you let her out, do her laps, then come back in. I let her out one night to do her thing, and she kinda disappeared for a while. I was standing at the door calling her, and was like "ok... long run tonight", and literally as I was closing the door I see her out of the corner of my eye, about 5 feet from the door (porch lights weren't on). My brain didn't react fast enough to think "don't close the door!".... literally as it clicked shut, I hear this "WHAM!" on the other side. I'm thinking "fock... mom's dog is dead." Open the door, she's on the other side, panting and happy with blood on her lower jaw, wagging her tail.

Our steel entry door was dented and the oval leaded glass window was cracked up the center from the impact.

Bella: 1, Door: 0.

LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! lyric (my 1yr old pit) is the same way!!!! he runs into everything!!!! and could care less about it!! reps to you if i can, that's an awesome story!!!!

SixSquared
10-16-2007, 03:22 PM
[/B]You need to quit using the internet as your source of info. Most of it is full of ****. Dumb....dumb. I use to work for the Police department, and I also handled k-9 dogs. Most reasons we used shepards are because they are smart, reliable, protective and trust worthy. So before telling me, know what the person you are talking to has done in his life before.

Also popular to your believe, show me where my dogs would be more aggresive to a white person. My best friends are white, and they are always around my dogs. So as I stated those statements are full of ****.

I believe you meant to say "Contrary to your beliefs"

There is a thread of truth to the idea of dogs picking favorites. Men, women, white people, black people, Asian people.... they all smell different. A black man will have a much different scent than a white woman or an Asian man. Dogs have an extremely acute sense of smell, as we all know, and will be more comfortable with the smells that are most familiar... most like home. When I was up near Hoschton, me and my three female roommates got a lab puppy. The puppy had been abused, and we nursed it back to health and whatnot. To this DAY, Sheba does NOT like men... We're pretty sure it was a guy who was abusing her, and we got her when she was like 4 months old. Now she's 4 years old. She lives with my friend Mallory and her fiance now, and when Mallory's not home, Sheba is hiding. She's terrified of men, almost to a point where it's not worth the trouble to take her out to the park and stuff. To me, Mallory, and any other girl that meets her, she is a sweet, outgoing pup. She meets a guy, and she is cowering back, pulling away, and if the guy really pushes it, she will get aggressive. Not just grown guys, either... kids, adults... she doesn't care.

Granted, situations only get that extreme when there's abuse involved (generally), but it speaks worlds about a dog's ability to discriminate.

Glides
10-16-2007, 03:28 PM
I believe you meant to say "Contrary to your beliefs"

There is a thread of truth to the idea of dogs picking favorites. Men, women, white people, black people, Asian people.... they all smell different. A black man will have a much different scent than a white woman or an Asian man. Dogs have an extremely acute sense of smell, as we all know, and will be more comfortable with the smells that are most familiar... most like home. When I was up near Hoschton, me and my three female roommates got a lab puppy. The puppy had been abused, and we nursed it back to health and whatnot. To this DAY, Sheba does NOT like men... We're pretty sure it was a guy who was abusing her, and we got her when she was like 4 months old. Now she's 4 years old. She lives with my friend Mallory and her fiance now, and when Mallory's not home, Sheba is hiding. She's terrified of men, almost to a point where it's not worth the trouble to take her out to the park and stuff. To me, Mallory, and any other girl that meets her, she is a sweet, outgoing pup. She meets a guy, and she is cowering back, pulling away, and if the guy really pushes it, she will get aggressive. Not just grown guys, either... kids, adults... she doesn't care.

Granted, situations only get that extreme when there's abuse involved (generally), but it speaks worlds about a dog's ability to discriminate.

You are correct. This whole thing started because fanboy took this statement and completely went nuclear on it.

I said "Normally Pit Bulls are dog biters (thanks Killer :) ) and German Shepherds, Rottweillers and Dobermans are people biters."

He can't seem to come to grips with that because HIS dogs don't do that. Well that would be great if HIS dogs were the only dogs in the world like he thinks they are. But we all don't live in fantasyland.

Then we got on the topic of Black raised dogs having the ability to be aggressive to white people and vice versa. Once again, our resident dog fanboy goes off because HIS dogs don't do that so it must not ever happen.
God forbid other dogs do something his dogs don't do. Inconceivable.

The conversation has suffered ever since. :)

Killer
10-16-2007, 03:29 PM
You are correct. This whole thing started because fanboy took this statement and completely went nuclear on it.

I said "Normally Pit Bulls are people biters and German Shepherds, Rottweillers and Dobermans are people biters."

He can't seem to come to grips with that because HIS dogs don't do that. Well that would be great if HIS dogs were the only dogs in the world like he thinks they are. But we all don't live in fantasyland.

Then we got on the topic of Black raised dogs having the ability to be aggressive to white people and vice versa. Once again, our resident dog fanboy goes off because HIS dogs don't do that so it must not ever happen.
God forbid other dogs do something his dogs don't do. Inconceivable.

The conversation has suffered ever since. :)


you mean pits are dog biters

Glides
10-16-2007, 03:30 PM
you mean pits are dog biters\

Oh yea, correction inc :D

00CIVICSI
10-16-2007, 03:35 PM
bsl and you "all pitsbull kill" people is racism in another form......Dogs attack dogs and humans.....not just pitbulls. I got 2 and there awesome. Most loyal dogs you can have.

SE-Rious1
10-16-2007, 05:56 PM
Haha this is my lil man chillaxin:rolleyes:

Benefit
10-16-2007, 06:37 PM
i want a german shepherd..


which ones are those white ones that are like half wolverine or some ****...

quickdodge®
10-16-2007, 06:41 PM
Malamute or Husky. Later, QD.

Benefit
10-16-2007, 06:45 PM
yea siberian husky...and german shepherds...most badass dogs IMO
theres just something about the eyes of those dogs...


oh and whats the other dog , its like a relative to the german shepherd...its all black though...

Hundo®
10-16-2007, 07:02 PM
Another horrible owner raising a dog wrong giving great dogs bad names.

FYI

chihuahua's are the most aggressive dogs period along with poodles.. it probably provoked it.

Frög
10-16-2007, 07:04 PM
Another horrible owner raising a dog wrong giving great dogs bad names.

FYI

chihuahua's are the most aggressive dogs period along with poodles.. it probably provoked it.

your not bias are you?

SE-Rious1
10-16-2007, 07:09 PM
Another horrible owner raising a dog wrong giving great dogs bad names.

FYI

chihuahua's are the most aggressive dogs period along with poodles.. it probably provoked it.
well if u had get bit by one id think the smaller mouth is the way to go lol

Hundo®
10-16-2007, 07:12 PM
well if u had get bit by one id think the smaller mouth is the way to go lol

as killer stated, unless the pittbull is roided out and beefed up, you better believe he's about to get the ass whoopin of his life if he comes at me and i dont know the owner. even if it's roided out, he might get to my neck whatever, but aint no way im going down without seriously injuring that dog.

And as far as pitt's go, yea they have bad rap, i just recnetly lived in ahouse with 2 Korean dogs.. not agrssive at all they just bark at everything, well our neighbor had a small little annoying black dog and always snapped at bigger dogs that came by, our dog ran across the street and snatched it up one night and nearly killed it. Animal control came, no big deal. if it was a pitt. a story on the news. gauranteed. wonder how often that happens daily.

Glides
10-17-2007, 08:02 AM
as killer stated, unless the pittbull is roided out and beefed up, you better believe he's about to get the ass whoopin of his life if he comes at me and i dont know the owner. even if it's roided out, he might get to my neck whatever, but aint no way im going down without seriously injuring that dog.


Lol, ok turbo.

SL65AMG
10-17-2007, 11:18 AM
a male american (purebred) pit bull can reach up to 110 lbs.
a female can get to about 65 lbs

they also have something called lockjaw. when they clamp down on something they arent letting go unless they want to.

Spectic Tank
10-17-2007, 11:25 AM
a male american (purebred) pit bull can reach up to 110 lbs.
a female can get to about 65 lbs

they also have something called lockjaw. when they clamp down on something they arent letting go unless they want to.

Actually the comman weight for a purebred pitbull is between 35-55 pounds, while the original APBT were 20-40 pounds. Almost all of the muscle bound pits you see weighing 80-110 pounds have been cross-bred with other breeds.

Also, there is no such thing as "lockjaw". Pitbulls have very strong jaw muscles, but DO NOT lock in any way.

quickdodge®
10-17-2007, 11:27 AM
they also have something called lockjaw. when they clamp down on something they arent letting go unless they want to.

Exactly. Later, QD.

SL65AMG
10-17-2007, 11:28 AM
Actually the comman weight for a purebred pitbull is between 35-55 pounds, while the original APBT were 20-40 pounds. Almost all of the muscle bound pits you see weighing 80-110 pounds have been cross-bred with other breeds.

Also, there is no such thing as "lockjaw". Pitbulls have very strong jaw muscles, but DO NOT lock in any way.

well whatever, its called lockjaw. have you ever tried to pry open the mouth of a pit/ or american bulldog too thats clamped down on something.... its almost impossible, hence why its called lockjaw

quickdodge®
10-17-2007, 11:32 AM
well whatever, its called lockjaw. have you ever tried to pry open the mouth of a pit/ or american bulldog too thats clamped down on something.... its almost impossible, hence why its called lockjaw

I've heard it referred to as lockjaw many times. But it's just a term used. Second to the Hyena, pitbulls exert the strongest jaws at 20,000 lbs of pressure. Later, QD.

Spectic Tank
10-17-2007, 11:35 AM
well whatever, its called lockjaw. have you ever tried to pry open the mouth of a pit/ or american bulldog too thats clamped down on something.... its almost impossible, hence why its called lockjaw

You can call it whatever you want, doesn't mean it's true.

I own an American Bulldog, and yes I know how strong AB's and APBT's jaws are. Like I said, there is no type of locking mechanism in their jaws...this is a very common misconception which has been proven false by medical studies.

SL65AMG
10-17-2007, 11:37 AM
You can call it whatever you want, doesn't mean it's true.

I own an American Bulldog, and yes I know how strong AB's and APBT's jaws are. Like I said, there is no type of locking mechanism in their jaws...this is a very common misconception which has been proven false by medical studies.

dont take it so literally...jesus



its a figure of speech

Killer
10-17-2007, 11:39 AM
I've heard it referred to as lockjaw many times. But it's just a term used. Second to the Hyena, pitbulls exert the strongest jaws at 20,000 lbs of pressure. Later, QD.


yeah, my father my cousin and i were talkin about coyotes one day (my dad had shot a problem coyot while we were hunting) and my cousin was like "man i'd hate for that thing to get a hold of me..." he was acting like they were a superior dog... and that when my dad just goes.... "kyle's pup once full grown could do more damage to you and would destroy a single coyote if it had to"

they have some serious jaw strength and that's for sure.

Killer
10-17-2007, 11:41 AM
You can call it whatever you want, doesn't mean it's true.

I own an American Bulldog, and yes I know how strong AB's and APBT's jaws are. Like I said, there is no type of locking mechanism in their jaws...this is a very common misconception which has been proven false by medical studies.


yeAh MayNE but DiS onE tyMe My PiT goT holDs oF this STick and woulDn'T let go MAynE!

Spectic Tank
10-17-2007, 11:44 AM
dont take it so literally...jesus



its a figure of speech

It's all good. Like I said "you can call it whatever you want" just pointing out that the figure of speech might not be the best because it leads to many misconceptions.

Spectic Tank
10-17-2007, 11:46 AM
yeAh MayNE but DiS onE tyMe My PiT goT holDs oF this STick and woulDn'T let go MAynE!

WerD Yo?! I be HeaRin Dat dEy cAn ShOOt LasEr BeEms anD **** FroM dEy EYEzZ!

Killer
10-17-2007, 11:55 AM
WerD Yo?! I be HeaRin Dat dEy cAn ShOOt LasEr BeEms anD **** FroM dEy EYEzZ!

HELL NawZ SUn! MYnes GOT ICe BReaF! YO! and VEEEEEEEEEEEETAACCCKCKKATTCKKKK

SE-Rious1
10-17-2007, 03:03 PM
You can call it whatever you want, doesn't mean it's true.

I own an American Bulldog, and yes I know how strong AB's and APBT's jaws are. Like I said, there is no type of locking mechanism in their jaws...this is a very common misconception which has been proven false by medical studies.
well its not like its a machine once its on it breaks and wont come off its just they have the strenght to hold for deer life its there thing they do like how a lion wont let go of a animals neck till its dead. but u might as well call it his death grip cause like ive said its been done many times before and when it happins yull be lucky to get the dog off.

Glides
10-17-2007, 05:14 PM
Actually, there has been no conclusive study that shows exact bite pressures of the Pit Bull and if it's even worse than any other bite. The UGA apparantly did a study on it and couldn't get an aparatus that would measure bite pressures. Pit Bull jaws are the same as any other dog, no "Locking Jaw" mechanism.

It seems to be all about tenacity and willingness to just not let go. The heavily muscled heads of Pits will naturally give you more bite pressures. But nothings proven.

sshonda2004
10-18-2007, 09:07 AM
[QUOTE=Killer]i really don't understand how a grown human can be killed by a pitbul...
trust me man its possible, my red nose has muscles like a horse, shes very lean, highly visible cuts, shes short legged so she looks even bigger.

quickdodge®
10-18-2007, 09:59 AM
Actually, there has been no conclusive study that shows exact bite pressures of the Pit Bull and if it's even worse than any other bite.

See below. Later, QD.


Second to the Hyena, pitbulls exert the strongest jaws at 20,000 lbs of pressure. Later, QD.

Spectic Tank
10-18-2007, 10:53 AM
I Second to the Hyena, pitbulls exert the strongest jaws at 20,000 lbs of pressure. Later, QD.

Link?

LQQKITZME
10-18-2007, 10:54 AM
ok so i was outside playing around with my car and my 76 yearold neihbor was outside walking her chihuahua this dog is her baby and her life and i saw them and said hi. well i go inside for a second and come back out with my moms and we see this black and white pitbull run across the street and grab the dog up shaking it like a ragdoll or a chewtoy people wur stoping in the road trying to help finally the dog ran off but after doing its damage.
I grab the dog up and took it to the vet they checked it over and said it had crushed ribs,punchured lungs and broke back. It had to be put down.......

It took animal control 45min just to come out and they still havent found the pitbull but from what was herd it has killed a poodle and attacked 3 other people before:no:

Im worried because i have 2 chihuahua's myself:cry:


that sucks

Smittie61984
10-18-2007, 12:40 PM
I've heard it referred to as lockjaw many times. But it's just a term used. Second to the Hyena, pitbulls exert the strongest jaws at 20,000 lbs of pressure. Later, QD.

Is that of just the dog family (Which a Hyena is part of) or all animals? Because I think a Crocodile/Alligator would have more.

Which I've heard Rottweilers have the strongest bite. But the reason they aren't used in dog fighting is because they are too slow compared to a pitbull.

For the pitbull owners out there. What is it that drew you to a pitbull. We all buy dogs for a reason. I got a Border Collie because I wanted an extremely smart dog that had great endurance and could catch frisbees,balls,etc. I know other people like labs because they are fairly athletic and easily trained to catch frisbees and such. And people get small dogs for well I have yet to figure out why people pay huge money for a small dog that does nothing but bark, pee, poop, and nip at you and all of it in your home.

Sport1.3
10-18-2007, 12:42 PM
Murder Dog 1, chihuahua 0

Sport1.3
10-18-2007, 12:51 PM
Is that of just the dog family (Which a Hyena is part of) or all animals? Because I think a Crocodile/Alligator would have more.

Which I've heard Rottweilers have the strongest bite. But the reason they aren't used in dog fighting is because they are too slow compared to a pitbull.


Hyena's have one of the strongest bites per square inch period. As far as domesticated dogs, its pretty subjective, but the highest recorded number comes from a Rottweiler ~325psi. Almost 50lbs more then a pit. Though the Cape Hunting Dog of Africa is said to come in around ~340psi

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R7jhrxy0HKs

Killer
10-18-2007, 02:06 PM
Is that of just the dog family (Which a Hyena is part of) or all animals? Because I think a Crocodile/Alligator would have more.

Which I've heard Rottweilers have the strongest bite. But the reason they aren't used in dog fighting is because they are too slow compared to a pitbull.

For the pitbull owners out there. What is it that drew you to a pitbull. We all buy dogs for a reason. I got a Border Collie because I wanted an extremely smart dog that had great endurance and could catch frisbees,balls,etc. I know other people like labs because they are fairly athletic and easily trained to catch frisbees and such. And people get small dogs for well I have yet to figure out why people pay huge money for a small dog that does nothing but bark, pee, poop, and nip at you and all of it in your home.

to me a pit is one of the most beautiful dogs... the variety of colors and what not.. (mine is like a buckskin/brendle) they've got great personalities... great protectors... and overall perfect size.. i hate lap dogs... BUT i also don't want a 100 pound dog... shedding isn't too bad cause they don't have crazy long hair...

Glides
10-19-2007, 08:07 AM
Link?

No link. Like I said, no conclusive study has been done for exact bite pressures. I will give you this link though that debunks alot of myths on the Pit Bull. It's not an isolated article either. Almost all of the ones you see have this same information in it or similiar.

http://www.pitbulllovers.com/american-pit-bull-terrier-myths.html

QD, 20,000 lbs of pressure? A Nile Crocodile bites at around 5000 psi, Great Whites around 6600 lbs. 20,000 has to be a typo because I know you are too smart not to look that up.

Spectic Tank
10-19-2007, 08:25 AM
No link. Like I said, no conclusive study has been done for exact bite pressures. I will give you this link though that debunks alot of myths on the Pit Bull. It's not an isolated article either. Almost all of the ones you see have this same information in it or similiar.

http://www.pitbulllovers.com/american-pit-bull-terrier-myths.html

QD, 20,000 lbs of pressure? A Nile Crocodile bites at around 5000 psi, Great Whites around 6600 lbs. 20,000 has to be a typo because I know you are too smart not to look that up.

I was asking QD for a link, not you. 20,000 lbs of pressure is a lot and there's no way a pitbull can produce that.

Sport1.3
10-19-2007, 08:58 AM
I was asking QD for a link, not you. 20,000 lbs of pressure is a lot and there's no way a pitbull can produce that.

Nope, he may have added 2 zero's by mistake.

XLR8NMR2
10-19-2007, 09:50 AM
Murder Dog 1, chihuahua 0

hahahahha

my advice: get a real dog.

Glides
10-19-2007, 10:47 AM
I was asking QD for a link, not you. 20,000 lbs of pressure is a lot and there's no way a pitbull can produce that.

Hello Brain Train. I was saying that there is no link to 20,000 lbs. And I believe I JUST said what you just said. Thanks for the reply though, it was well thought out and useless. :D

Spectic Tank
10-19-2007, 11:12 AM
Hello Brain Train. I was saying that there is no link to 20,000 lbs. And I believe I JUST said what you just said. Thanks for the reply though, it was well thought out and useless. :D

I don't know who pissed in your cornflakes, or why you even quoted me in the first place. I know what he was saying was wrong that's why i asked him for a link to back up his post.

Oh, you already said what I said? well 'Brain Train' I was agreeing with you're statement...

My post was not meant to serve a purpose other than to tell you I wasn't asking you for the link and that I agreed with what you said. Why you even responded to me is beyond me...I guess you couldn't be outdone by my useless post so you decided to top mine...I get it now

quickdodge®
10-19-2007, 12:08 PM
I was asking QD for a link, not you. 20,000 lbs of pressure is a lot and there's no way a pitbull can produce that.

I'll recant my post as I searched for where I found that "info" and now I can't relocate it. Sorry. Later, QD.

Evil Goat
10-19-2007, 12:41 PM
G...U...N...

end of story.

chituntang
10-28-2007, 12:58 AM
Yes, it is always the owner, not the dog. Cause these types of dogs are fighters by their nature. So if nobody trains them, they will attack anything moving at their site.

A pit bull bite my friend's mother on the face just couple months back. I am just piss off by those un-responsible people out there. The pit bull runner was trying to say my friend's mom was trying to play with the dog and she was the one caused the accident. Sh*t she was scare of dogs.

SNapper
01-07-2008, 12:47 PM
here you go pitbull lovers

A Mothers Regret (http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=275_1188725509)

Young boy mauled to death by pitbulls in Saint Lucia (http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=b044370927)

SoCal Woman Mauled to Death by Pit Bulls (http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=414_1198768905)

Owner of killer pit bulls afraid of criminal charges (http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=6e7_1194989335)

Pitbull Delivering Puppies Bites Neighbour In The Face (http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=c36_1190499120)

Disabled Woman Mauled by Pit bulls While in Bed (http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=bac_1187779586)

Pitbull Kills 7yo Old Minneapolis Boy (http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=728_1187366653)

Pit Bulls Attack Boys (http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=09b_1183529470)

San Jose toddler attacked by pit bull comes down with pneumonia (http://www.mercurynews.com/breakingnews/ci_7891377?nclick_check=1)

Hero chokes mad pit bull (http://www.people.co.uk/news/tm_headline=hero-chokes-mad-pit-bull&method=full&objectid=20276387&siteid=93463-name_page.html)

Pit bull attacks 5 people; 4 were children (http://www.whas11.com/news/local/stories/010508whastjLocalDogEuthanized.10a19444.html)

Sunnyvale family's pitbull euthanized after several appeals (http://www.mercurynews.com/breakingnews/ci_7864943)

Toddler and her grandmother are hospitalized pit bull attack (http://www.mercurynews.com/breakingnews/ci_7849091)

the list goes on and on

GIXXERDK
01-07-2008, 03:47 PM
you are still full of ****, because pretty much you have been saying dogs are racist. So yeah you and those bull**** sites are full of ****.

Both of my dogs act differently around my colored friends, sure your dog may not, but our dogs were raised by Asians. No hostility, just a peak of interest.