Should i say YES to a Civic EX??

[madking411]

1995 Civic EX.....~$2900.:thinking:

Should i try to convince the 'rents to let me trade the Sunfire for it??

How's the aftermarket for the EX civic, and whats the potential, as far as making it fast...?

[Kyle]

The sunfire is a lost cause IMO. Always easy to find parts for civics(new or used parts), and parts are not expensive. Go for it.

[bigdare23]

1995 Civic EX.....~$2900.:thinking:

Should i try to convince the 'rents to let me trade the Sunfire for it??

How's the aftermarket for the EX civic, and whats the potential, as far as making it fast...?

endless.....



Once you convert to the honda world, it's like a endless money pit

[blackshine007]

Damn a honda. Find a nissan or mazda for cheaper. Find a Sentra and if it don't have an SR20, put one in it and even then you have the option between the SR20DE and SR20VE. Find a Protege and if it don't have the the BP, drop on in it. If you get bored and want something different, Find an MX3 in the junkyard and take it's motor mounts and wiring harness, and go find a 626, MX6 or Probe V6 and drop it in. It actually fits with no problem.

[japan4racing]

go for it....anything has to be better than the ****fire

[madking411]

Damn a honda. Find a nissan or mazda for cheaper.

I love Nissans....I've never owned one before, but...They seem like the ''different'' type of JDM...almost like Toyota-- you almost forget its japanese...

hmm..Tell em where to look for some Nissan thats cheaper and that has a lotta aftermarket, and I'll go for it. It HAS to be reliable though, cuz it'll be my DD.

[Master Shake]

civic > sunfire.

civic all the way bro. the possiblities of what could be done is endless.

[Black Mamba]

lir.. WHO DA HELL drives SUNFIRE? PUAHAHAH..

[madking411]

Yeah....my main reason for wanting to do this trade so bad, is because, tonight i was SUPER-PWNED by one of my friends Integras, with not even an intake on it... Only thing hes done (engine-wise) is Cat-back....I've done SO many more mods than that..I've done the PCV mod (not much), exhaust, and Ram-air intake. It was STILL killllllled.

[OneSlow5pt0]

get a 5th gen celica or go with the civic

[madking411]

Just another quick Q......

My goal, for the amount of HP to come out of my car, is somewhere between 200HP -250HP.....Uhh....about how much $$ will I be investing in the Civic to get it in that range?? (I know for a fact I'll be boosting it, Number one...)

[esiatlanta]

go for it man...its a good deal....

[OneSlow5pt0]

Just another quick Q......

My goal, for the amount of HP to come out of my car, is somewhere between 200HP -250HP.....Uhh....about how much $$ will I be investing in the Civic to get it in that range?? (I know for a fact I'll be boosting it, Number one...)

well im no honda expert,but iday say should be lookin into a B seris swap

[madking411]

Dont people usually run into problems with emissions with those motors??

btw, how much $$ and effort's required for the swap??
(just tryin to get all my sh** together before jumpin into tryin to buy and build a new car...would hate for it to happen the way i did when i got the Sunfire..)

[patrick4588]

emissions problems? you can make excess of 300whp on a gsr motor and have it be reliable daily driver. but look to spend a few grand.

[madking411]

emissions problems? you can make excess of 300whp on a gsr motor and have it be reliable daily driver. but look to spend a few grand.

What car I can buy that already has the GSR in it??

[DrunkScotsman]

hmmmmmmmmmmmmm ............. a GSR!

[DrunkScotsman]

seriously.... drop the pontiac , pick up the civ.... log on to hondaswap.com , (hopefully you have a descent budget) and go from there!

[Elbow]

I love Nissans....I've never owned one before, but...They seem like the ''different'' type of JDM...almost like Toyota-- you almost forget its japanese...

hmm..Tell em where to look for some Nissan thats cheaper and that has a lotta aftermarket, and I'll go for it. It HAS to be reliable though, cuz it'll be my DD.

:no: :no: :no: Nissans arent reliable. Mazda, Toyota, Honda FTMFW

Also how is Nissan a different type of JDM it half runs it with the jDm tYght D0rift0 2fotay's and sh1et y0

[DrunkScotsman]

You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to simontibbett again. , lol , i tried to rep ya for pawnin the noob!

[Kyle]

Just another quick Q......

My goal, for the amount of HP to come out of my car, is somewhere between 200HP -250HP.....Uhh....about how much $$ will I be investing in the Civic to get it in that range?? (I know for a fact I'll be boosting it, Number one...)
A lot. Don't expect to be able to just do bolt ons to that SOHC and expect close to 200. All the basic bolt ons, heaters, cat back, test pipe, air intake, etc. etc. probably would put you at about 120 ish(I'd assume, honda guys chime in) And since you said you want it reliable and fairly cheap I doubt you will go turbo. So basically if you want it to be fast swap it.

[DrunkScotsman]

A lot. Don't expect to be able to just do bolt ons to that SOHC and expect close to 200. All the basic bolt ons, heaters, cat back, test pipe, air intake, etc. etc. probably would put you at about 120 ish(I'd assume, honda guys chime in) And since you said you want it reliable and fairly cheap I doubt you will go turbo. So basically if you want it to be fast swap it.x2 , repped kyle , you v-dub boys aint so bad , my fav v-dub is the early 90's wolfsburg ed. gti!

[TheProfiteer]

OH god yes take a EX over a sunfire any day of the week.

And nissans are reliable if maintained.

You cannot beat a 5spd honda in terms of price, reliability, performance, and styling.

They maybe a dime a dozen, but thats just because you can do what ever you want with it, with out really breaking the bank.

and 2900 for a 95 EX is a little much, you should be able to get it less than 2k, it might need a little work, but you can make it look like you want to.

Fresh paint, 2in drop, good wheels, Si lights, Lip, Amber corners, and some nice tint and you are gonna have a badass looking car.

still gonna be slow (faster than your sunfire) but save up some money and drop a 95 GSR in there (one of the easiest swaps to do) and boom, a nice looking, pretty damn quick four banger.

[B20kid]

there's nothing to think about DO IT you'll be happy!!!!!!!:yes: :goodjob:

[blackshine007]

there's nothing to think about DO IT you'll be happy!!!!!!!:yes: :goodjob:
Sure there is. Here's the proof

http://www.importatlanta.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=143


I mean unless you like to have a vehicle which 9 times out of 10 will either be broken into or stolen, why take that risk? You make what you believe to be a sound investment into a vehicle only for someone to rip you off. That's not cool. I say avoid the "H" badge shift_emotions or Zoom Zoom.


BTW, I forgot about the Toyota as well. There's always the 20V engine with the ITB's that came in the AE101 chassis. Or swapping a 2ZZFE with wiring harness in an older fwd Corolla would be hawt as well

[TheProfiteer]

troof troof , hondas be getting stooooooooolen

left and f u c k i n g right

[13Bracer]

:no: :no: :no: Nissans arent reliable. Mazda, Toyota, Honda FTMFW

Also how is Nissan a different type of JDM it half runs it with the jDm tYght D0rift0 2fotay's and sh1et y0

mazda rx7+rotary=non reliable FTL:no:

[TheProfiteer]

Mazdas are not reliable at all man, 626, mx3, mx5, millenia? you call those reliable cars?

[madking411]

BTW, I forgot about the Toyota as well. There's always the 20V engine with the ITB's that came in the AE101 chassis. Or swapping a 2ZZFE with wiring harness in an older fwd Corolla would be hawt as well


:goodjob: :goodjob: :goodjob: THIS is what i'd LOOOOVE to do with my 89 corolla!! But, it would need to get the tranny swapped out also, to make it a 5-speed. At THIS point, it kinda needs the carburetor re-built, so i can get it running again. AND, if im going to keep the corolla, My mom said i need to get it running by November 13th, or shes gonna get rid of it.......:(

Soo...If im gonna keep it, i NEED to find a carburetor, or carb rebuild kit AND someone to do the rebuild for me, by 11/13/90 in order to keep it....Of course, if anyone can find me a carb for a 4AF engine that works pretty well, and is pretty cheeeeeep, then i can just go ahead a drop it in.
PS-- The junkyard in my area doesnt really have any rollas with the carb in em...they're alll EFI.....

[cactusEG]

go with the civic. you can find plenty of parts and most of the time at a good deal.

[cactusEG]

Mazdas are not reliable at all man, 626, mx3, mx5, millenia? you call those reliable cars?

he speaks the Troof :yes:

[madking411]

go with the civic. you can find plenty of parts and most of the time at a good deal.

Yeah, but i dont want it gettin stolen all the time...Actually, from what I've been hearing around, on my Sunfire, apparently someone wants to come take the wheels off of it.....

(NO JOKE.)

[SPOOLIN]

then dont let it get stolen, have a scatter gun near by.

[patrick4588]

dont forget the monkey alarm

[quickdodge®]

as far as making it fast...?

LOLOL!!!! You're going to go from one ****hole to another? Why a Civic? Unless you feel like looking like you're a clone. Later, QD.

[chinitoxamor]

I love Nissans....I've never owned one before, but...They seem like the ''different'' type of JDM...almost like Toyota-- you almost forget its japanese...

hmm..Tell em where to look for some Nissan thats cheaper and that has a lotta aftermarket, and I'll go for it. It HAS to be reliable though, cuz it'll be my DD.


:lmfao::lmfao: i aint know there was a "Different" type of JDM hahahaha... :D funny guy.. stick to your Sunfire if you cant decide :???: man, Honda is a good way to start, easy to find parts, fun and you CAN make it fast(notice i said CAN okay dont go out there making yourself an :thinking: ignorant motherf*cker going riced out) but yeh its a way to start. GOOD LUCK :goodjob:

[quickdodge®]

DARE TO BE DIFFERENT

Later, QD.

[Dirty Octopus™]

DARE TO BE DIFFERENT

Later, QD.
im down with being different and all but it doesnt seem like he's feeling the Sunflare too much if he's considering a Honda to replace it. i mean Hondas are great dont get me wrong.
and they kinda refuse to die if you take car of em' :goodjob:
as of late ive been all about having my car run and look nice. i dont care for the super uber power stuffs :D
and i happen to like the way the civic looks over a cavalier.
id choose the Honda over the sunfire.

1. the car looks better
2. for the "power" that you want out of it, itll be easier and cheaper to obtain.

[quickdodge®]

id choose the Honda over the sunfire.

I probably would too, but if you're out to look for a car and you're not in hurry, I'd say shop around. This dude obviously wants a car that more easily tuned. There are ****loads more cars out there that look much better than a Civic that he could get that he could make much faster than a Civic(which isn't hard to do) and he wouldn't look like 5 out of the next 6 people you saw. Unless he got a Civic like mine of course. Later, QD.

[Dirty Octopus™]

I probably would too, but if you're out to look for a car and you're not in hurry, I'd say shop around. This dude obviously wants a car that more easily tuned. There are ****loads more cars out there that look much better than a Civic that he could get that he could make much faster than a Civic(which isn't hard to do) and he wouldn't look like 5 out of the next 6 people you saw. Unless he got a Civic like mine of course. Later, QD.
yeah... i gotta agree. i regret selling my Nissan :( swap prices are in around the same price range as Hondas and you get boosts. :super:

damn... i saw this sickassh¡t CVCC on Tara for NOPI weekend.
man.... all the perverted things i would do to one if it was in my possession and i had money to mod it :hump:

[mushroom_toy]

Hey I didnt know you had a corolla. Is it the 4age version or the 4ac? We have three mr2s, with 4ages in em, if you might be interested in purchasing one cheap. :)

[fucksohc]

civic>sunfire.. lol trade the sunfire for the civic no questions asked :goodjob:

[kmt8426]

go with the civic they the best

[quickdodge®]

go with the civic they the best

Lolol. Later, QD.

[OneSlow5pt0]

did i hear in this thread that miatas arnt reliable?LOL

[Dirty Octopus™]

go with the civic they the best

Lolol. Later, QD.
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[JITB]

Man what you really really need to do is, STOP

and get on other sites, and serch for your own information. because everything u here on here will be Bias, nonoe is gonna tell you to keep the sunfire, because noone knows potential of them, i dont myself. So if you want to know the answer... look up your own info, and see yourself. The sunfire itself is a decent platform, but you jsut got stuck with the one withthe 2.2 ohv motor, which isnt the better one. Now to aviod going out and buying another car that will lleave you stuck in the same position with a slow car that will require alot of money , and alot of knowledge . to get what u want out of it. You HAVE TO HAAAAAAVE To search yourself. honestly you arent gonna be any better power wise, with a Ex civic. i bet stock vs. stock ur sunfire owuld prob be faster...lol. Maybe you should stick with the sunfrie alil bt longer. The parts are out ther for the car but i dont think yoru willing to do the work to find and or get the parts. The same amou
nt of money it will take you to get the civic to where u want it, the sunfire would probrably require the same. There is another whole world of other compacts that ppl dont know about or dont care to tune.. but will perform just as well if not better than the fan favorite honda civic.


if i was you i wouldnt have gotten a non GT sunfire in the first place...lol, if you would have researched and read up on the car, you owuld have atleast got a sunfire gt with the ecotec!

[0DISPLACMENT]

did i hear in this thread that miatas arnt reliable?LOL

fo sho.

they are probably the most reliable, now considered "tuner" car there is...

you can beat this **** out of them and they keep going, change the oil and they go some more... just dont break the rear axle :P

-darrin

[blackshine007]

Mazdas are not reliable at all man, 626, mx3, mx5, millenia? you call those reliable cars?
Hey, hey, That's not entirely true. As long as you avoid the atx, they are very reliable. I've owned 4 626's (all 5 speeds, 1 V6) and as long as you keep up on the maintenence, they're great cars. I'm daring to say my car is as reliable, if not more reliable than any car on these forums. Most mazdas don't have CV axle problems(which btw my factory CV axles have been known to power cars with in excess of 500 whp with no problem), or price inflation problems when it comes to getting parts due to demand. So what I'm on trans #3 but that's because of a bent shift fork on the first, busted transmission housing on the second which took out 5th gear due to the fluid leaking out (which there is a fix for that, they make a brace). So at least if you're gonna make a statement, at least state an actual fact, not an opinion

[madking411]

Hey I didnt know you had a corolla. Is it the 4age version or the 4ac? We have three mr2s, with 4ages in em, if you might be interested in purchasing one cheap. :)

Its the 4AF version.




Man what you really really need to do is, STOP

and get on other sites, and serch for your own information. because everything u here on here will be Bias, nonoe is gonna tell you to keep the sunfire, because noone knows potential of them, i dont myself. So if you want to know the answer... look up your own info, and see yourself. The sunfire itself is a decent platform, but you jsut got stuck with the one withthe 2.2 ohv motor, which isnt the better one. Now to aviod going out and buying another car that will lleave you stuck in the same position with a slow car that will require alot of money , and alot of knowledge . to get what u want out of it. You HAVE TO HAAAAAAVE To search yourself. honestly you arent gonna be any better power wise, with a Ex civic. i bet stock vs. stock ur sunfire owuld prob be faster...lol. Maybe you should stick with the sunfrie alil bt longer. The parts are out ther for the car but i dont think yoru willing to do the work to find and or get the parts. The same amou
nt of money it will take you to get the civic to where u want it, the sunfire would probrably require the same. There is another whole world of other compacts that ppl dont know about or dont care to tune.. but will perform just as well if not better than the fan favorite honda civic.


if i was you i wouldnt have gotten a non GT sunfire in the first place...lol, if you would have researched and read up on the car, you owuld have atleast got a sunfire gt with the ecotec!

Yeah, i've done a little bit of research. I've found j-body.org, and streetvisioncc.com, and a few other sites....And, its possible to get my sunfire into a range between 12 - 14 seconds, depending on how i do it. In order to get THAT though, i have to run a boosted Ecotec. But, what I would like to do, to be a little different, is build a non-Eco engine, with an auto tranny, thats still somewhat quick.:yes:

And, as far as me ''choosing'' the car, I didnt really get a chance to pick or whatever. This car just fell into my lap for $500, and i NEEDED it to immediately replace the dwindling 'rolla as my DD.

[JITB]

well making 12-14sec automatic car is gonna take alot of money, especially since your in the negative with the non ecotec....lol.

i know abotu the fall into cars, my frist car was a ford escort lx automatic 1.9l 88hp BEAST! :D , my mom bought it as my first car. Great for waht it was, which was transportaion. i eventually got rid of it, and got a protege with a more tunable motor.. Might be time for u to do the same!

civic might be for u! :goodjob:

[Maniaç]

Omgay, you are such a newbie.

[madking411]

Actually, i personally dont care about makin a car that gets in the 12 - 14 sec range....I'm just lookin for a range of horsepower. THAT range is between 200 to 250HP. Right now, its at ~120 - 130.

I think thats all i'll be able to handle for quite some time...

[Dirty Octopus™]

to be honest...
you're young. and you dont need all kinds of furious speed.
i think you should build something reliable that looks oh so nice :yes:
something that you wont be ashamed to ride around in wit da b¡tchez :D :goodjob:

[Pavlo]

Get rid of the Sunfire, but don't jump on the civic either. I used to have an EJ1 and it was an awesome car, but with hondas I got tired of it being slow (torque-less), and everything is just so played out. It handled really good though with an ITR rear sway bar.

Now I switched to Volkswagens, and honestly I'm loving it. So look around before you get the civic.

[Elbow]

Mazdas are not reliable at all man, 626, mx3, mx5, millenia? you call those reliable cars?

You are a ****ing dumb ass then lol, my Miata has not had like any issues and I BEAT THE **** out of it, I run it in the mountains, autocross, can track it, and drive it to work on Monday :goodjob:

We used to own a 626 and had no issues with it either.

[madking411]

Hahhh...a little more research...If i were to do an engine swap, rebuild the engine, do nitrous and turbo, and tuning...i could get UP TO 800HP out of my car...

I'm thinkin, if i DONT do the Ecotec swap, im just gonna guess that since the 2200 engine and the 2.2 Eco engine are really similar, That i could get possibly somewhere around 500HP. (if i rebuild the engine...)

Check THIS:
http://www.year2032.com/ecotec.htm
:idb: :yes:

[cactusEG]

Yeah, but i dont want it gettin stolen all the time...Actually, from what I've been hearing around, on my Sunfire, apparently someone wants to come take the wheels off of it.....

(NO JOKE.)

u have a garage use it... and turn on ur out side lights and get an alarm :goodjob: i still say go with the civic. theres not such thing as a clone ! !

[cactusEG]

to be honest...
you're young. and you dont need all kinds of furious speed.
i think you should build something reliable that looks oh so nice :yes:
something that you wont be ashamed to ride around in wit da b¡tchez :D :goodjob:
So ture.. its expensive and more if u like to speed :(

[madking411]

its expensive and more if u like to speed :(

what is...??

HAH-- based on that article...im keepin the sunfire..I'm just gonna boost it, and see what it'll do.:goodjob:

Apparently, I can keep basically all of my stock engine parts, up to ~280HP. Thats PERFECT. I only want ~250 MAX...

[OneSlow5pt0]

what is...??

HAH-- based on that article...im keepin the sunfire..I'm just gonna boost it, and see what it'll do.:goodjob:

Apparently, I can keep basically all of my stock engine parts, up to ~280HP. Thats PERFECT. I only want ~250 MAX...

get a miata and u will only need 150 to have real fun

[Dirty Octopus™]

get a miata and u will only need 150 to have real fun
i dont think he understands that.
fun > power :doh:

good looking car+fun car = sex :hump:

and at this age sex is a very important thing :goodjob:

[madking411]

and at this age sex is a very important thing :goodjob:

:lmfao:

So...will someone please explain to me how much FUNFUNFUN i can have with 150hp??:bannana:

[cactusEG]

what is...??

HAH-- based on that article...im keepin the sunfire..I'm just gonna boost it, and see what it'll do.:goodjob:

Apparently, I can keep basically all of my stock engine parts, up to ~280HP. Thats PERFECT. I only want ~250 MAX...

speed and tickets

[madking411]

speed and tickets

OHH....okay..

well, I thought thats why people had radar detectors.....:thinking:

[TicketRedBB6]

:lmfao:

So...will someone please explain to me how much FUNFUNFUN i can have with 150hp??:bannana:

A lot more than with the sunfire, seriously. Get a 5spd and it'll be pretty fun with plenty of available parts to make it faster/more fun. Or spend a little more for a 94ish GSR and have more fun.