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quickdodge®
10-04-2007, 04:10 PM
Kumho Ecsta AST vs. Falken Ziex 512. Later, QD.

Sammich
10-04-2007, 04:14 PM
im not too sure. i've never had experience with falken, but i have never heard anything bad about falkens. but i tend to like the tread pattern on falkens more than kumho

From what i know: Kumho

From what i want: Falkens

Ed
10-04-2007, 04:14 PM
falken rt 615. i heard good things about those.

Killer
10-04-2007, 04:22 PM
never dealt with falkens...

BUT kelly uses khumo on her dd civic and they have always held up great and been good tires...

Kyle
10-04-2007, 04:32 PM
Those are like two completely different ends of the spectrum IMO. Falken all the way.

w3bcod3r
10-04-2007, 04:34 PM
Kumho

burke420
10-04-2007, 04:55 PM
FIRST OFF, I SELL TIRES, AND THE KUMHO IS A STIFFER TIRE... LONGER LIFE. AND THE FALKNE IS A SOFTER TIRE...

quickdodge®
10-04-2007, 05:16 PM
FIRST OFF, I SELL TIRES, .

Ok? Later, QD.

SampaGuy
10-04-2007, 05:21 PM
i have the falken 512s, they are ok, definitely not as good as the kumho SPTs. I never tried the ASTs. Unless I was going with the RT615s, I would always go kumho.

Kyle
10-04-2007, 05:24 PM
FIRST OFF, I SELL TIRES, AND THE KUMHO IS A STIFFER TIRE... LONGER LIFE. AND THE FALKNE IS A SOFTER TIRE...
OMG THIS GUY SELLS TIRES!!!! :eek:

BTW: I'll take my falken azenis over any kumho tire.

SampaGuy
10-04-2007, 05:26 PM
OMG THIS GUY SELLS TIRES!!!! :eek:

BTW: I'll take my falken azenis over any kumho tire.


i hope your not talking about the 512s lol

Kyle
10-04-2007, 05:28 PM
i hope your not talking about the 512s lol
Yeah I don't remember what I have. But everyone I know buys kumho ecstas and they are crap IMO.

quickdodge®
10-04-2007, 05:28 PM
OMG THIS GUY SELLS TIRES!!!! :eek:

Lolol. Yeah, my thread wasn't asking who sold tires. Any body can learn how to sell tires, so just because someone does doesn't mean they know all about them. I want people who have ridden on these tires to give road experience on them, not what you read in tire-selling class or on a brochure.


BTW: I'll take my falken azenis over any kumho tire.

Azenis aren't in my budget. Later, QD.

quickdodge®
10-04-2007, 05:29 PM
Yeah I don't remember what I have. But everyone I know buys kumho ecstas and they are crap IMO.

Back in 1999-2000, I did SCCA on Kumho 710(712 now) and won the championship on them and only used one set the whole year. And this was also my daily driven car. Later, QD.

Crazy Asian
10-04-2007, 05:30 PM
falken eh. Soem ppl have extremely bad luck with em. Though they say they protect the rims ahaha its bs. I like Kumho.,

Maniaç
10-04-2007, 05:31 PM
Bfgoodrich kdw's

But if I had to pick from those two I'd go with the Falkens.

quickdodge®
10-04-2007, 05:32 PM
I'd go with the Falkens.

That settles it:

Kumhos it is. Later, QD.

Maniaç
10-04-2007, 05:33 PM
Lofl. Good.

Tech5
10-04-2007, 06:11 PM
Kumho

Kyle
10-04-2007, 06:14 PM
Lolol. Yeah, my thread wasn't asking who sold tires. Any body can learn how to sell tires, so just because someone does doesn't mean they know all about them. I want people who have ridden on these tires to give road experience on them, not what you read in tire-selling class or on a brochure.

Exactly.


Azenis aren't in my budget. Later, QD.
They probably wouldnt be in mine either, but two of them came on my wheels, so it wasnt that bad for me.

Dirty Octopus™
10-04-2007, 06:57 PM
Wooooowww! aint this sum stuff. me and thecoolcutter were just pming back and forth about this. tHE EXACT Same too tires!
i think we're both leaning more towards the 512's :goodjob:

b17a1db2
10-04-2007, 07:26 PM
Falken 512's. Very soft compound tire, and wears away quick... I won't get it again.. I say Kumho.

wantboost
10-04-2007, 09:54 PM
I have had three sets of 512's on 2 cars and for the money i have not found much better for driving daily. what car is it going on and what are you planning on doing? I would also suggest looking at the nitto neo gens.

IDCoconut
10-04-2007, 11:01 PM
I've had both. I preferred the Falkens. With the same width and aspect ratio, the 512's just had better "road feel." I'm now on Yokohama AVS ES100s and love them.

Tech5
10-04-2007, 11:49 PM
thats why I say Kumho A+ said

KPowerEP3
10-05-2007, 01:07 AM
I've had both, and I personally prefer the falkens. I know this isn't saying much, but I worked at a tire wholesaler for a while, and we sold probably 10x as many ZE512 as Ecsta's. I've got a set of Yokohama-made 205/70/15s I'll sell ya for cheap./shameless plug

quickdodge®
10-05-2007, 01:08 PM
I have had three sets of 512's on 2 cars and for the money i have not found much better for driving daily. what car is it going on and what are you planning on doing? I would also suggest looking at the nitto neo gens.

Just my GA with no mods and none planned. And no to the Nitto as I am working with a budget.


I've got a set of Yokohama-made 205/70/15s I'll sell ya for cheap./shameless plug

As far as I know, that won't fit on a 16" rim. Later, QD.

Thighs
10-05-2007, 01:15 PM
FALKEN FTMFW!
they arent THAT expensive... ~$70/tire.
and they have SO much more grip.

but bridgestone has the fastest street tire out right now with the re01-r

KPowerEP3
10-05-2007, 01:32 PM
Just my GA with no mods and none planned. And no to the Nitto as I am working with a budget.



As far as I know, that won't fit on a 16" rim. Later, QD.

doh. owned by bigger-than-I-thought wheels.

quickdodge®
10-05-2007, 04:22 PM
FALKEN FTMFW!
they arent THAT expensive... ~$70/tire.
and they have SO much more grip.

Reading is fundamental.


but bridgestone has the fastest street tire out right now with the re01-r

^^^
Reading is fundamental.

Later, QD.

scionara
10-05-2007, 04:32 PM
QD just to let you know about Falkens Ze 512's they arent makeing them anymore they have been replaced with the ZE 912's. Great tires i have 912 on my car and it rides great

quickdodge®
10-05-2007, 04:36 PM
QD just to let you know about Falkens Ze 512's they arent makeing them anymore they have been replaced with the ZE 912's. Great tires i have 912 on my car and it rides great


Thanks, but I got the Kumhos. Lolol. Later, QD.

Hundo®
10-05-2007, 06:30 PM
I've got Falken FK452's and they're great, i've heard good things about the ziex as well!

Sol-Badguy
10-07-2007, 12:14 PM
I've driven a little on Falken's, and I have 2 Ecsta AST's on my car right now.

I'd honestly go with the Falken's.

Kumho's are more budget friendly for the feel and performance.

mikespeed95
10-07-2007, 05:47 PM
Should have broadened your horizons and looked into Federal 695 Super Steel. It's cheaper, same touring **** that wont have any real grip, and its cheap!

Later, MS95.

DinanM3atl
10-07-2007, 06:39 PM
What are you using it for?

What is your budget per tire?

2turbo4u
10-11-2007, 02:50 AM
His Grand Am

quickdodge®
10-11-2007, 08:48 AM
Should have broadened your horizons and looked into Federal 695 Super Steel. It's cheaper, same touring **** that wont have any real grip, and its cheap!

Later, MS95.

I actually went with Hankooks.

Echonova
10-11-2007, 09:01 AM
I have Kuhmo Ecsta's on my car right now and I love them. My only complaint is they are not very progressive when they lose traction at the limit (which is pretty F-ing high). But, I am also running a staggered tire size so my assesment may not be fair one. Could be more my set-up than the tire.

quickdodge®
10-11-2007, 09:05 AM
Could be more my set-up than the tire.

I'm not sure if that would affect it, but it could be. I went with Hankook for the price and since I didn't need a "racing" type tire on my daily cruiser. They are VR rated and have a " Treadwear/Temperature/Traction" rating of "340/A/A." So for $400 even(including all fees), I think I got a fairly good deal. And they ride great, too. I have zero road noise and the ride is smooth. Later, QD.

LeX
10-11-2007, 10:27 AM
get some damn Avons!

quickdodge®
10-11-2007, 10:30 AM
Why? I already got tires. Later, QD.

alexly
10-11-2007, 10:45 AM
i've had both, and in my experience, kumho all the way. those falken 512's don't seem to handle and ride as smoothly. i have had them both on my mr2 and integra... KUMHO.

Andy099
10-17-2007, 10:41 AM
i just got these Kumho Ecsta AST tires for my 99 Civic Si..they drive good...since discount tire direct.com is having a crazy deal

i am ordering the Falken ZE912 for $124 shipped..they are the newer model of the 512..JDM made! can;t go wrong with that

Black R
10-17-2007, 11:09 AM
they're both crap commuter tires. not performance oriented at all. so get whatever is easier on your wallet. they might be ok in the rain though.....

or better yet, just go to pep boys and get the cheapest **** they got.

Andy099
10-17-2007, 11:14 AM
both tires are good with overall quality and all season performance for the best bang for your buck...especially if your not going for no TREAD and HIGH PERFORMANCE TIRES

quickdodge®
10-17-2007, 11:28 AM
not performance oriented at all.

I've stated on a few occasions that these are for a Grand Am. So I'm not looking for performance. Later, QD.

BLK JDM
10-17-2007, 04:52 PM
check out some Maxxis tires!!

JDM onlyy
10-17-2007, 04:56 PM
FIRST OFF, I SELL TIRES, AND THE KUMHO IS A STIFFER TIRE... LONGER LIFE. AND THE FALKNE IS A SOFTER TIRE...

Umm, doesn't that mean the Falkens tires will get better grip though? :D


F*ck the rest. Yokohama Advan Sports....Or the ST

chituntang
10-23-2007, 04:01 PM
I just never think Falken as a brand to compare with Kumho.

cdhtang
10-29-2007, 03:27 PM
I don't know about 512, but my FK452 is really good IMO.
Falken

blaknoize
11-01-2007, 12:22 PM
GOD thats HARD. I've had both. I have Falkens currently and they are GREAT in the rain, OMG are they great. Travelin 90+ in heavy rain with very little fear. Plus they are very quiet on the road and cheap. But the Kuhmo, are very good for the long run. They are more expensive (sometimes) but they are also nice in the rain. The 512 (my current tire) are nice and I'd give em reps for this poll. But I like them both. And, well it may also depend on the car u happen to have. But again I like them both.

blaknoize
11-01-2007, 12:27 PM
QD just to let you know about Falkens Ze 512's they arent makeing them anymore they have been replaced with the ZE 912's. Great tires i have 912 on my car and it rides great

They still make them... I bought some 2 months ago...

DrivenMind
11-02-2007, 02:56 AM
Kumho is alright, they're usually geared a little more towards longevity than performance, but they're still decent tires.

After I started using Falken Azenis RT 215s, I couldn't drive on anything else. Not a single other street tire I've experienced, feels quite like them. They're absolutely phenomenal tires, in ordinary, dry weather, you'd almost swear you were running slicks.

I've got a set of RT 615s waiting to go on my AE86 now.

lsxtreme
11-04-2007, 05:36 PM
kuhmo's .......