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Ruiner
07-21-2005, 09:51 AM
You don't have to know how to spell everything in the dictionary, and you don't have to have the serial-semicolon rule embroidered on a pillow, but if you have reached voting age in the United States, you need to know the basics of English usage, because if you don't, you look like an idiot. No, don't. Don't start with that "grammar Nazi" business. Don't get all "nobody gives a shit about that crap" and "it's so anal, who cares" and "well, you know what I mean." I give a shit about that crap. I know it's anal, but I care, and so do a lot of other people -- people who respect you, but might respect you less when you dash off an email to the effect of "I'll meet you their"; people in a position to give you a job, who won't because you didn't proofread your cover letter and they don't appreciate your addressing them as "Deer Ms. So-And-So." And no, in fact, I don't know what you mean when you write me a hate thread that reads, "You're thread sucks," because that doesn't mean anything. Because it's grammatically incorrect. Because you've substituted a contraction of a verb phrase for an adjective, thus rendering the sentence nonsensical. And it makes you look stupid, and therefore I cannot take you seriously. Sorry, but it's the truth.

You're/your. "You're" is a contraction of "you are." "Your" is a modifier. Very simple. Do not use "you're" to modify nouns. "Your keys." "Your desk." Do not use "your" as a second-person verb phrase. "You're up early." "You're leaving?" Here's a phrase with both: "You're moving your car, right?" In other words, you are moving the car that belongs to you. "You're" = verb phrase. "Your" = adjective. Everyone biffs it once in a while, but take it from someone who sees it over and over and over again, every day -- it's a glaring error. Learn it, live it, love it.

Speaking of "every day": "Every day." That's an adjectival or adverbial phrase. "Everyday" is an adjective describing activities, clothing, or whatever. When do you go? "Every day." What do you wear? "Everyday business attire."

Its/it's. Probably the most frequent grammatical error, and thus the most maddening, but it's the same principle as the "you're/your" rule above: "it's" is a contraction of "it is," and "its" is a modifier. Do not use "it's" to modify nouns. "Its trunk." "Its charter." Do not use "its" as a verb phrase. "It's raining." "It's hard to say." Here's a sentence with both: "It's got a dent in its fender." In other words, it has a dent in the fender that belongs to it. Take a minute when you write "it's" or "its" and make sure you've got the right one; people get paranoid that they need an apostrophe, so they'll throw one in when they don't need it. "It's" = verb phrase. "Its" = adjective. Learn it, live it, love it.

They're/their/there. More of the same. "They're" is a contraction of "they are." "Their" is a modifier. "There" is a place. If you don't know which one to use, slow down for a minute and think about which one you need. "They're going there" and "their going there" don't mean the same thing. If "they are" doing something, use "they're." If something belongs to them, use "their." If it's a place they're headed on their trip, use "there." Got it? Good. And it's not spelled "thier." Or "the're." Spell-check is your friend. Learn it, live it, love it.

Who's/whose. Fourth verse, same as the first. "Who's" is a contraction of "who is." "Whose" is a modifier. You'll run into problems with this most often in dependent clauses, like so: "The president, who's also the chairman of the board, is very ill." Because, see, he is also the chairman of the board. Or "the president, whose chairmanship is at stake, is very ill." Because, see, it's his chairmanship. Stop. Look at it. Decide which you need: a verb phrase, or a pronoun. "Who's" also functions as an interrogative, so if you need to ask a question about someone, you don't use "whose." "Who's got the bong?" "Who's coming tonight?" "Who's that?" is correct, and "Whose that?" is incorrect. This is not difficult. One fits in one situation; the other fits in the other. Figure out the situation; use the right one.

Subjective/objective pronouns. Okay, here's the deal with these. If the pronoun is the object of a verb, it takes the objective case. (The objective case means words like "them," "us," "him," "her," and "me.") So many people got drilled as kids not to start sentences with "me and Sharon" blah blah blah that they think they have to put a subjective pronoun into every phrase or it doesn't sound right. Well, that doesn't sound right either; it sounds ignorant. "That's a matter for he and I to decide." Well, no, it isn't. It's a matter for "him and me" to decide, actually. Because "he" and "I" function as objects of the preposition "for." Here's another: "It's between he and I." No, it's between "him and me." Objective pronouns, remember? "Between" is a preposition. Prepositions always activate the objective case -- him, her, me -- and the subjective case follows the subject. Now here's a famous historical quotation that's not correct: "We have met the enemy, and it is us." "It is we" is correct, because the verb "to be" always takes a subjective pronoun, unless it's in the infinitive. "It is I," but "I've got to be me." I know it's tough to untangle sometimes, but here's the bottom line: if there's a preposition or an "action verb" in the sentence, you use the objective case. "She's coming with" who? Me. Us. Them.

Where/we're/were. These aren't even close to each other. "Where" is an interrogative, or an indefinite pronoun. "We're" is a contraction of "we are." "Were" is the past tense of "are." Again, take a second to see that you've used the right one. "Were going to the movies"? Huh?

Then/than. "Then" is an adverb. "Than" is a comparative. One denotes time; the other is the connective tissue of a sentence that signals a comparison, an upcoming subjunctive or dependent clause, or one of those other fun things that sentences contain. "I would rather eat nails than have to sit through another dance recital." "I will eat nails, and then I will sit through another dance recital." See the difference there? "Than again" isn't a phrase. It's "then again." Things do not "cost less then" other things. A "than/then" mistake is usually a careless one, but that doesn't make it less annoying. So proofread, and stop doing it.

Affect/effect. Subtler, but still crucial. Ninety-nine times out of a hundred, "affect" is the verb and "effect" is the noun. You "affect" things; you "have an effect on" things. You can also "effect" changes, and in that case the verb doesn't mean "have an effect," but rather "put into effect." With me so far? "The report didn't affect our projections, at least not in its effect on consumers, but it did give us the chance to effect a few changes in the retail workplace." (Yeah, yeah, "affect" can work as a noun, too, but unless you work in the mental-health field, it's not relevant here.) Brass tacks: "affect" is the verb, "effect" is the noun. When in doubt, grab a Webster's and make sure you've got the right one.

Less/fewer. Use "less" for quantity and "fewer" for number. Huh? Okay. You go shopping. You need apples. You don't see as many apples as you saw the last time you went to the store, so you see what? Fewer apples. That's right. But maybe the store reduced its produce selection, so there's not as much fruit overall. So there's what? Less fruit. Good. "Many/much" is analogous, and you can use it as a cheat to figure out which one is correct; if it's something you can enumerate, you'd use "many," and if you use "many," "fewer" is correct. If it's something you quantify, you'd use "much," and when you use "much," "less" is correct. Whew -- that's complicated. Here's a simpler example: less noise, fewer decibels. Got it? En masse, it's "less." Individual units, "fewer."

The Apostrophe That Came In From The Cold. Ask yourselves: why is the apostrophe there? "Uh, because it's a plural?" Survey says: EHHHHHHH. "Green bean's"? No. "Welcome shopper's"? Absolutely not! Wrong, wrong, wrong. Ignorant, ignorant, ignorant. An apostrophe is used to shorten ("cannot" becomes "can't") or to employ the possessive ("Sarah's"). It is NOT USED in the plural. EVER. It is used at the FRONT of a decade abbreviation ("'80s"), NOT in the middle ("80's"), because you don't mean that something belongs to the number 80. See? Because "eighties" is a plural. It's NOT a possessive. So don't USE the apostrophe, because you don't NEED it. And when you use an apostrophe to denote a possessive with a name or place that ends in "S," you need to add another "S," unless it's a plural ("the Joneses' house"). "The princess's car." "Cletus's truck." The only names that don't take another "S" at the end: Jesus and Moses. Don't question it. Just learn it. Once more, with feeling: PLURALS do NOT take an APOSTROPHE. Under ANY CIRCUMSTANCES. At ALL. No, they sure don't. No, they still don't. No. NO!

Lie/lay. Oh, brother. Even the shittiest English teacher should have drilled you on the difference between lying down and laying something down, but just in case, school's in, and today's lesson is about transitive and intransitive verbs. A transitive verb requires an object or an action; you use a transitive verb to do or place or kick or haul or affect (not "effect," mind) someone or something. Lay is transitive. It is something you do to something else. You cannot just, you know, "lay around." An intransitive verb does not require an object; it's something that the actor can do all on his/her/its own -- think, lie, wonder, run, stuff like that. "Lie" is intransitive; it's something you just do. So can you lay on your bed? No, you can't. You can lie on your bed, and you can lay a book down on your bed. That's all there is to it. You lie; you lay things. (You all can figure out the conjugation of "to get laid" on your own time.)

"Myself" and "me"? Not synonymous. "Myself" is a qualifier used for emphasis, or to mean "I alone" in the objective case. It does not replace the objective pronoun, which is "me." "Just submit the memo to him and myself." No, no, NO. It's not just incorrect -- it betrays an ignorance of correct usage. It's one of those errors people make (similar to using "utilize" instead of "use" or "pursuant to" instead of "as we discussed," although these aren't wrong, just pretentious) because they think it makes them sound smarter. Guess what? It doesn't work, because in this instance, it's incorrect. It works here: "I myself would prefer not to drive." Or here: "I don't want to go by myself." Do not substitute it for "me" in prepositional phrases. It's pompous, and it's wrong.

"Judgment." One "e."

"Accommodate." Two "c"s, two "m"s.

Yeah, you. Write those down.

Which/who/that. Oh, god. I hate which/who/that because it's so difficult to explain clearly, but let's give it a go. To quote MC Hammer, "Ring the bell -- school's back in." It's time to learn about restrictive and nonrestrictive clauses. A restrictive clause gives necessary information about the noun it modifies, and is not set off by a comma, like so: "The essay that went up on May 7 stinks." A nonrestrictive clause gives supplemental information about the noun, and the sentence doesn't need it to make sense. It's set off by commas, like so: "The essay, which went up on May 7, stinks." Restrictive clauses use "that." Nonrestrictive clauses use "which." In either case, if "that" or "which" modifies a person, it uses "who." Use the comma as your guide. Well, provided you've used the comma correctly, but don't get me started on that.

Lose/loose. These words do not mean the same thing. Please proofread. Please. "Lose" means misplace. "Loose" means not tight. Not the same thing. They aren't even homophones. Proofread. Proofread again. Get your roommate to proofread. Thank you.

"Irregardless" is not a word. You mean "irrespective." Yes, you do. No, trust me -- that's what you mean. Okay, perhaps you mean "regardless." But you don't mean "irregardless," because "irregardless" isn't a word.

Breath/breathe. You "breathe." Or, you "take a breath." Verb gets the "e," noun doesn't. Period.

"Appraise" and "apprise" don't mean the same thing.

Neither do "stationary" and "stationery."

Very unique. "Unique" suggests that nothing else like it exists. So either it's unique, or it isn't. Good luck with that "VERY UNIQUE FLASH WEBSITE DESIGN" business, o spammers of the world, but it's like "pregnant" -- either the condition exists, or it doesn't. It's not subject to an adverb.

Web site. Not "sight." Not "cite." SITE.

It's called a shift key. You get two of them with your keyboard -- for free! Expend the extra four seconds and capitalize "I" and the first words in sentences. No, no, see, I'm not asking. I'M TELLING YOU.

And while I'm on the subject of free stuff: See "unique." It's free or it isn't. It costs nothing or it doesn't. It's not "absolutely free." It's not "free of charge." It's just free. Free means "absolutely no charge," don't you know. Oh, you didn't know? Well, now you know.

Of/have. I know the contraction of "would have" sounds like "would of." But it's spelled "would've," because it's the contraction of "would have." Stop. Look at it. "Would of"? Wrong. "Could of"? Also wrong. "Should of"? Yeah, now you've got it.

Advise/advice. "Advise" is the verb. "Advice" is the noun. I get this one a lot because I have an advice column. Where I advise people. When they ask for advice. Okay? Okay. No, it's not a British-ism. You advise people who ask for advice.

Intents and purposes. Yeah, I thought it sounded like "intensive purposes" too, for years. It isn't. "For all intents and purposes." Think it over -- "intensive purposes" doesn't make sense, does it? No, not really.

Preventive. Not "preventative." My MS spell-check doesn't flag it, but it's still wrong.

Orientated. Ditto. It's "oriented." Oh, but it's a sentence regarding an orientation? Then say "went through orientation." "Orientated" is absurd.

Conscious/conscience/conscientious. "Conscience" gives you a pang when you do something bad; "conscientious" is the adjective form of "conscience." It's tough to spell -- it took me two attempts just now -- but you should know what it means. "Conscious" (and "consciousness") -- horse of a totally different color. And breed. In fact, it's a cow. It means you're awake, or alive, or not in a coma. Another one where you'll just have to put the brakes on and look at it closely to make sure you've got the right one.

A lot. Not "alot." Unless it's Sir Mixalot. And I think even he hyphenates the damn thing. It is, always has been, and ever shall be two separate words.

All right/altogether. I don't know why "altogether" is fine and "alright" is not, but I do know that I missed "all right" in a fourth-grade spelling bee and I've never forgotten it. Two words again. All. Right. All right? And it's not "alrighty," either. It's "all righty."

Definitely. It is definitely not spelled with an "a," anywhere, at any time, under any circumstances. I cannot STAND seeing "definately." CANNOT STAND IT. Your spell-check should catch that, and if it doesn't, find it yourself.

Separate. The "e"s go at the ends, the "a"s go in the middle. It's not "seperate." Please learn to spell "separate" correctly. Please. Or -- wait for it -- run a spell-check.

To/too. "Too" means also, or "very much so." "To" doesn't. I know it's tough to catch, such teeny little words that look so much alike, and spell-check is no help. Try. No, try harder than that. Harder. There you go.

Truly. No "e." None. Not a one. Not "truely." Never ever.

Ridiculous. It IS NOT rediculous, got it? There is NO "e" in there and never was.

Sale/Sell. You sell a car while you put a car up for sale. "For sell" makes no sense. Listen, "sale" is a noun while "sell" is a verb. It is very simple.
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Cliffs Notes: The way that you type here on IA is a true reflection of how you spell/compose your thoughts in real life. I don't want to hear the "I only type this way on the internet" excuse. No you don't. You just have the benefit of spell check and grammar correct in MS Word.

Repost Squintz
07-21-2005, 09:51 AM
hey man u know i was just messin with you right?

trythefly
07-21-2005, 09:53 AM
lol damn get pissed off about grammer Ruiner!

Kristi
07-21-2005, 09:53 AM
so I'm not the only one that this bugs? lol

Spyder
07-21-2005, 09:55 AM
Unfortunatly it appears you skipped of the most annoying things.

"honduh wheels for sell"
"big screen t.v. for sell"
"everything in the garage for sell."


its for SALE you fucking morons get it right.

Ruiner
07-21-2005, 09:57 AM
hey man u know i was just messin with you right?

Yes, but this type of thing just bugs the shit out of me. You can really tell a lot about someone's education (or lack of) by the way that they type.

HyPer50
07-21-2005, 09:58 AM
Ok... I don't really care what you think. I'm usually a pretty good speller, and generally if there's an error, it's a typo.. But on something like this, it doesn't really bother me if somebody can't spell "ridiculous".. I knew what he was saying, and this isn't a spelling bee. I understand you're a professional... or atleast I assume you are since you drive a Porsche, but alot of the people on here are teenagers to early 20's and comprehension is more important than spelling to me atleast... Some people just aren't good spellers, as long as they know they are trying to say and aren't like "u shuld come ovur to i house" i honestly dont care.. Just my 2c, I know they aren't worth much but oh well.

Kristi
07-21-2005, 09:58 AM
Yes, but this type of thing just bugs the shit out of me. You can really tell a lot about someone's education (or lack of) by the way that they type.

OMG - I agree completely!

Ruiner
07-21-2005, 10:09 AM
Unfortunatly it appears you skipped of the most annoying things.

"honduh wheels for sell"
"big screen t.v. for sell"
"everything in the garage for sell."


its for SALE you fucking morons get it right.

:( I can't cover everything, but I'll add it. :)

WTF..kebe
07-21-2005, 10:10 AM
LMAO

B16a2 Civic
07-21-2005, 10:14 AM
Thanks Ruiner. Some people needed to read this.

Ruiner
07-21-2005, 10:16 AM
Ok... I don't really care what you think. I'm usually a pretty good speller, and generally if there's an error, it's a typo.. But on something like this, it doesn't really bother me if somebody can't spell "ridiculous".. I knew what he was saying, and this isn't a spelling bee. I understand you're a professional... or atleast I assume you are since you drive a Porsche, but alot of the people on here are teenagers to early 20's and comprehension is more important than spelling to me atleast... Some people just aren't good spellers, as long as they know they are trying to say and aren't like "u shuld come ovur to i house" i honestly dont care.. Just my 2c, I know they aren't worth much but oh well.

Comprehension is not an excuse for poor spelling AND (let's not forget this) grammar usage. You and I both know that. Most mistakes are grammar usage, not spelling errors. There/Their/They're are all spelled correctly, but their grammar usage is significantly different.

Here's the thing: Basic English grammar, spelling, and usage is something that you pick up in Elementary school. You might pick up a little bit more in Jr. High, but you get the idea.

If they are in their late teens, early 20's and still haven't figured this out, chances are they never will.

Salty12
07-21-2005, 10:19 AM
oh, and people who use numbers for words got 2 go ? i hate that shit too.

Ruiner
07-21-2005, 10:20 AM
Thanks Ruiner. Some people needed to read this.

I will probably get a lot of hate for this, but those are typically the offenders.

HyPer50
07-21-2005, 10:21 AM
Comprehension is not an excuse for poor spelling AND (let's not forget this) grammar usage. You and I both know that. Most mistakes are grammar usage, not spelling errors. There/Their/They're are all spelled correctly, but their grammar usage is significantly different.

Here's the thing: Basic English grammar, spelling, and usage is something that you pick up in Elementary school. You might pick up a little bit more in Jr. High, but you get the idea.

If they are in their late teens, early 20's and still haven't figured this out, chances are they never will.

True, but there is another problem. So many people can't spell, if you tried to correct every mistake you see, you would have a million posts by now.. The easiest way, just look past it.

civic95
07-21-2005, 10:22 AM
Cliff notes please

Ruiner
07-21-2005, 10:23 AM
True, but there is another problem. So many people can't spell, if you tried to correct every mistake you see, you would have a million posts by now.. The easiest way, just look past it.

A. It's not my fault that they can't spell.

B. I typically correct grammar, not spelling. This thread is more about grammar than it is about spelling. That, to me at least, is more important than correct spelling.

HyPer50
07-21-2005, 10:24 AM
B. I typically correct grammar, not spelling. This thread is more about grammar than it is about spelling. That, to me at least, is more important than correct spelling.


I'll definatly agree with you on that part.

Ruiner
07-21-2005, 10:27 AM
Cliff notes please

Wtf? There were already some at the bottom!

chrisdavis
07-21-2005, 10:34 AM
Your paragraphs arent indented j/k :D

I swear some of the stuff written here would give an English teacher a stroke.

B16a2 Civic
07-21-2005, 10:36 AM
I will probably get a lot of hate for this, but those are typically the offenders.

Thats understandable.
Kind of like if you made a thread about people who have 2 legs, the 1 legged people would come in here and get pissed off.

LaurenK
07-21-2005, 10:36 AM
It only grabs my attention when the word is spelled completely wrong...other than that...I don't give a shit. We aren't on here writing English papers.

Spyder
07-21-2005, 10:42 AM
Soo cud u explain it all again fer us that still don't get it? that wud be great!

Above is yet another example of things that i commonly see and they drive me crazy. Contrary to popular belief there are both a "o" and an "l" in could and would.

Ruiner
07-21-2005, 10:49 AM
I'll definatly agree with you on that part.

definitely ;)

LaurenK
07-21-2005, 10:51 AM
But you don't see that ALL the time! It's cool...I guess if it bothers you, I just don't think it's a big deal. I get on IA for other reasons than to pay attention so much to grammar mistakes.:2cents:

Spyder
07-21-2005, 10:53 AM
definitely ;)

I thought this wasn't about "speelin" :D

HyPer50
07-21-2005, 10:56 AM
definitely ;)

ya ya ya lol.. you could also point out that I occasionally leave words out completely = P My brain shoots words out faster than I can type them heh.

I will admit tho, some words just always mess me up.. Like "definitely" and "misspell".... I can never remember if it's just one s or 2 heh. Oh well, nobody is perfect.

Kevykev
07-21-2005, 10:58 AM
Thats understandable.
Kind of like if you made a thread about people who have 2 legs, the 1 legged people would come in here and get pissed off.

hahahahahahhhhahaha Very True

I typically try to be grammatically correct but i do not place to much concern on correctiveness online. I personally think that it takes away from the enjoyment.

Aside from common mistakes, some people Blatantly violate the fundamentals of the english language; so i understand where you all are coming from.

I make mistakes here and there but i have college papers to back up my extraordinary sentence formation transitions and word usuage (just to name a few)! :D

Ruiner
07-21-2005, 11:00 AM
But you don't see that ALL the time! It's cool...I guess if it bothers you, I just don't think it's a big deal. I get on IA for other reasons than to pay attention so much to grammar mistakes.:2cents:

I see simple grammar mistakes in almost every thread on IA.

B16a2 Civic
07-21-2005, 11:01 AM
hahahahahahhhhahaha Very True

I typically try to be grammatically correct but i do not place to much concern on correctiveness online. I personally think that it takes away from the enjoyment.

Aside from common mistakes, some people Blatantly violate the fundamentals of the english language; so i understand where you all are coming from.

I make mistakes here and there but i have college papers to back up my extraordinary sentence formation transitions and word usuage (just to name a few)! :D

Sounds like your very educated to me.
I, too, have intelligence on forming sentence, subject-verb agreement and basically.....the english language. But, i choose to type incorrect, but as Kevin stated, it would take away from the enjoyment of being online.

4dmin
07-21-2005, 11:04 AM
i know i'm horrible w/ grammer thats why i'm in the computer industry spell check :D

Ruiner
07-21-2005, 11:06 AM
I typically try to be grammatically correct but i do not place to much concern on correctiveness online. I personally think that it takes away from the enjoyment.



Okay, I give you this issue: If you use correct "grammar" in the real world, it should be second nature that you use correct grammar online. There should not be a distinction between the two mediums.

Would you agree with this or not?

Because I use correct grammar at work, when I write papers, etc, I use correct grammar ANYTIME that I write (online or not). I would specifically have to try and write incorrect grammar online since I use correct grammar in every other facet of my life.

Ruiner
07-21-2005, 11:10 AM
Sounds like your very educated to me.
I, too, have intelligence on forming sentence, subject-verb agreement and basically.....the english language. But, i choose to type incorrect, but as Kevin stated, it would take away from the enjoyment of being online.

you're

So, you intentionally typed "your" instead of "you're"? I find that hard to believe.

4dmin
07-21-2005, 11:12 AM
kan u reed dis??? <<< if yes then who cares, if not then your fucking blind. :D

Spyder
07-21-2005, 11:12 AM
you're

So, you intentionally typed "your" instead of "you're"? I find that hard to believe.

Back off of him Ruiner, he has "intelligence" on writing "sentence".

LOL, you know you're my boy B. :)

B16a2 Civic
07-21-2005, 11:13 AM
you're

So, you intentionally typed "your" instead of "you're"? I find that hard to believe.

Well, im working (customer service) and typing at the same time. It's a little difficult doing both. I did not intentially put your rather then you're or you are.

Spyder
07-21-2005, 11:13 AM
kan u reed dis??? <<< if yes then who cares, if not then your fucking blind. :D

Brail please.

chrisdavis
07-21-2005, 11:14 AM
Damn the grammar patrol is in full effect in this thread :D

Vteckidd
07-21-2005, 11:15 AM
Unfortunatly it appears you skipped of the most annoying things.

"honduh wheels for sell"
"big screen t.v. for sell"
"everything in the garage for sell."


its for SALE you fucking morons get it right.
you forgot VTEC"H"

Spyder
07-21-2005, 11:17 AM
you forgot VTEC"H"

I gotz Vtech in my honduh y0!

as Vtechkidd pointed out.. (kidding) it is Vtec , again get it right morons.

Kevykev
07-21-2005, 11:18 AM
Would you agree with this or not?


i agree 100 percent.

It's just another factor that gets involved that you forgot to touch on. This factor is commonly known as mistakes.

As you stated earlier: "There, They're and Their" for example, these three have completely different meanings.

It is very common to use these out of context on an unintentional basis. Now if it were used in a work of literature, the writer should proofread and correct as necessary.

If i make a mistake like this online, i might correct or i might just leave it alone.

You're right, if you practice correct grammar in writting and speech you are definately able to naturally apply it "online."

I think it's merely a matter of intention; either you know you were wrong or didn't know you were wrong. That is what defines a grammatically correct individual.


*Edit i refuse to proofread the above. :D

B16a2 Civic
07-21-2005, 11:21 AM
word to big bird son

A.P. Photography
07-21-2005, 11:21 AM
All I can say at this point in reference to Ruiners post is, Fer Shizzle :goodjob:

BOOSTEDeg
07-21-2005, 11:50 AM
Good post, I see that stuff all the time. If I miss a space bar I usually go back to seperate it, LOL. But that's just how I am.

Dragonfly5338
07-21-2005, 01:39 PM
u suk, rooner. if i see you're porche at np 2nite i will kick ur ass. me freinds will be their too and u will get a beetdown! hahahaaa! sux 2 b u!

Kevykev
07-21-2005, 01:46 PM
Ruiner just opened up the gateway Wiiiide!!!

He'll never hear the end of if.

lololol

RandomGuy
07-21-2005, 02:08 PM
I not understand this thread?

Ruiner
07-21-2005, 02:11 PM
Ruiner just opened up the gateway Wiiiide!!!

He'll never hear the end of if.

lololol

Oh well.

B16a2 Civic
07-21-2005, 02:15 PM
I not understand this thread?

:lmao:

Kristi
07-21-2005, 03:58 PM
i got a grammar thing.

knew and new
know and no

RandomGuy
07-21-2005, 04:51 PM
i no EXACTLY what you mean. We all need to watch our grammer because it effects the way every one will percieve what we say. They will think that were stupid. Grammer is very important.

RandomGuy
07-21-2005, 04:51 PM
LOL :2up:

B16a2 Civic
07-21-2005, 04:52 PM
i no EXACTLY what you mean. We all need to watch our grammer because it effects the way every one will percieve what we say. They will think that were stupid. Grammer is very important.

:lmao:

man...your the funnay FUNNAY

99ITRGIRL
07-21-2005, 04:52 PM
did anyone actually read that? But the spelling thing is true it pizzes mee uff!! lol

iNsTuN nOoDoH
07-21-2005, 06:00 PM
i no EXACTLY what you mean. We all need to watch our grammer because it effects the way every one will percieve what we say. They will think that were stupid. Grammer is very important.
It's grammar not grammer. :)
Another thing I can't stand is the use of 'a' and 'an'. For example, A Integra is a acura, when it really should be, An Integra is an Acura. I think that's right, Oh well, I'm asian. I have an excuse for making grammatical errors. :)

AznTraitor
07-21-2005, 06:21 PM
Your making this a big deal and its not like it matters. Its a every day thing its not like theyre gonna just start typing correctly, there just typing on a web forum. Im not gunna change my typing to acomodate you. This websight is the best thing to happen to me, it helps me loose my frustrations. Let me give you sum advise an say that it's a free kountry and we can all type as we please. You put alot of effort into your post or you just copied and pasted it but we can just seperate this down the middle and throw some of these out. Besides, this websight is truley rediculous. Why dont you put your porsche up for sell and call it a night.

AznTraitor
07-21-2005, 06:26 PM
and I was kidding about that last post, I was just went down his list and made sure I did everything wrong.

two things.

A.) you will never be able to control how someone types or their grammar ettiquete online.

B.) this has been a debate since the beginning of forums. if it pisses you off, then maybe you need to find other ways to release your anger because you are wound up so tightly and judging people based on what they type is somewhat shallow. Who are you to say you are a typing genius? I bet without MS Office and the help of spell checker and grammar check almost all of us would have failed english papers.

Cliff
07-21-2005, 08:42 PM
Brandon i feel you on this all the time. I just hate the "For Sell" or "I have some stuff for Sell" or "i need to sale this quick"

Ruiner
07-21-2005, 09:11 PM
Brandon i feel you on this all the time. I just hate the "For Sell" or "I have some stuff for Sell" or "i need to sale this quick"

Apparently I hit a nerve with some people on this board. :dunno:

AznTraitor
07-21-2005, 10:12 PM
Apparently I hit a nerve with some people on this board. :dunno:


I don't think you hit a nerve, it's just a debate that will always be on going....

RandomGuy
07-21-2005, 11:51 PM
lol if you guys haven't noticed the post i had up there was intentional. Those errors were put there..

Anyways, I'm sure a good amount of the ppl on IA are immigrants of some kind, all having different backgrounds in the English language. Give 'em a break and let them "Sale theyre stuff" ..
lol yall know what they are trying to say so who cares

Cliff
07-22-2005, 12:04 AM
i care...i dislike illiterate people

ironchef
07-22-2005, 01:05 AM
IA essay contest anyone? hahah

ahmonrah
07-22-2005, 01:13 AM
true certain grammatical errors should'nt be made. but, as long as i understand what the poster is trying to say i won't kick 'em in the balls about it. ok i lied. one guy here, i'm guessing he's from nigeria by his name.
spells his screen name NIGGERIAN instead of NIGERIAN. when i seen his posts, i'd get annoyed as shit, eventually informing him that unless he wants to be called NIGGER-ian, as opposed to being recognized by his nationality, which is what i think he was trying to do, he may want to change it.

ahmonrah
07-22-2005, 01:15 AM
i care...i dislike illiterate people illiterate people arent member here, they can't read. but dyslexic and "spelling challenged" people abound greatly here!!

Niggerian
07-22-2005, 02:01 AM
true certain grammatical errors should'nt be made. but, as long as i understand what the poster is trying to say i won't kick 'em in the balls about it. ok i lied. one guy here, i'm guessing he's from nigeria by his name.
spells his screen name NIGGERIAN instead of NIGERIAN. when i seen his posts, i'd get annoyed as shit, eventually informing him that unless he wants to be called NIGGER-ian, as opposed to being recognized by his nationality, which is what i think he was trying to do, he may want to change it.
my bad it was a typo

ahmonrah
07-22-2005, 02:19 AM
^^^^^^wasnt trying to call you out or anything dawg. but nigger is not the most positive word in the english language that describes an african immigrant/ descendant. but if it's a typo maybe BRETT can adjust that and take the extra G outta there.

Kevykev
07-22-2005, 08:54 AM
Apparently I hit a nerve with some people on this board. :dunno:


naaah man, I think you just brought it to their direct attention. I think you caused some people to emotionally revert to 3rd or 4th grade english class.

"I hate Mrs. Campbell, she mad me look stupid infront of the whole class!!!"

:lmfao:

Niggerian
07-22-2005, 12:38 PM
^^^^^^wasnt trying to call you out or anything dawg. but nigger is not the most positive word in the english language that describes an african immigrant/ descendant. but if it's a typo maybe BRETT can adjust that and take the extra G outta there.
but im so used to it now.

Spyder
07-22-2005, 12:46 PM
but im so used to it now.

If you want it taken out let us know, if not you did it intentionally. Also judging by your past post you did it intentionally. it doesnt personally bother me but if someone decided to protest it , it would be changed for you. :)

Spyder
07-22-2005, 12:47 PM
Brandon i feel you on this all the time. I just hate the "For Sell" or "I have some stuff for Sell" or "i need to sale this quick"

BTW I posted that and he added it in.. Apparently it didnt bother him as much as it does you or I lol.

HyPer50
07-22-2005, 12:48 PM
*shrug* I always figured it was a joke... I mean why would a Nigerian be posting on ImportAtlanta? Oh well, if you really are from Nigeria, I apologize for the "tasteless" joke I made awhile back lol.

Niggerian
07-22-2005, 12:50 PM
*shrug* I always figured it was a joke... I mean why would a Nigerian be posting on ImportAtlanta? Oh well, if you really are from Nigeria, I apologize for the "tasteless" joke I made awhile back lol.
it offended me, and my three goats.

Ruiner
07-22-2005, 01:51 PM
BTW I posted that and he added it in.. Apparently it didnt bother him as much as it does you or I lol.

I does, but if I couldn't remember eveything that bothered me at the time of this writing. Some things slip through. ;)

Jaimecbr900
07-22-2005, 11:26 PM
Sorry to arrive late to the party Ruiner, but I totally agree.

This is also a pet peeve of mine. My wife hates it because I'm always correcting her spelling.

What's ironic is how many spelling and grammar mistakes there have been since the first post..... ;)

s four t5
07-23-2005, 12:29 PM
Okay, I give you this issue: If you use correct "grammar" in the real world, it should be second nature that you use correct grammar online. There should not be a distinction between the two mediums.

Would you agree with this or not?

Because I use correct grammar at work, when I write papers, etc, I use correct grammar ANYTIME that I write (online or not). I would specifically have to try and write incorrect grammar online since I use correct grammar in every other facet of my life.
Actually it's like taking on different faces depending on who you are with or where you might be. For instance in a work place enviornment, one is more subject to speak and act profesional, whereas; in a place of comfort or a place relaxation one is more prone to let loose on the care of correct grammar. Just my two cents...but, eh...whatever.

Ruiner
10-24-2005, 07:52 PM
I bumped this because there are some ignorant people on IA.com.

Best regards,

Ruiner

Schugg
10-24-2005, 08:02 PM
they way u type has nothing to do with your education. some of us just could care less about what people on the internet think of us. the only time it should ever really even matter is if you were writing a letter to a company or for something important. but being just a internet forum or chat, i think some people need to get over it, its not going to kill anyone.

TranceDJ06
10-24-2005, 08:06 PM
hahahaha...IA Drama Lives Forever!...but yeah people should read the first post in this thread :goodjob:

Schugg
10-24-2005, 08:11 PM
haha yah some people really could use it, im not saying who gives a fuck which i think thats what my first post sounded like i was saying. i just dont really care for showing off my grammar skills to people i dont know. but im sure ill get molested by someone for partially sticking up for the opposite side of this situation. that will be fun to.

tony
10-24-2005, 08:16 PM
I didn't read the entire thread but uhm.. picking up a book may help out as well. I know my grammar is not the greatest but it is not the worst by far.

PinkTaco04
10-24-2005, 08:33 PM
i cdnuolt blveiee taht I cluod aulaclty uesdnatnrd waht I was rdanieg. The phaonmneal pweor of the hmuan mnid, aoccdrnig to a rscheearch at Cmabrigde Uinervtisy, it dseno't mtaetr in waht oerdr the ltteres in a wrod are, the olny iproamtnt tihng is taht the frsit and lsat ltteer be in the rghit pclae. The rset can be a taotl mses and you can sitll raed it whotuit a pboerlm. Tihs is bcuseae the huamn mnid deos not raed ervey lteter by istlef, but the wrod as a wlohe. Azanmig huh? yaeh and I awlyas tghuhot slpeling was ipmorantt!



lol jk, yea i agree with you brandon people need to learn how to use their words. I'm definately guilty, I probably made a mistake in that one sentence.

Cliff
10-24-2005, 08:39 PM
yea you put jk instead of j/k showing that it's two seperate words.

PinkTaco04
10-24-2005, 08:50 PM
HAHAHA

quickdodge®
10-24-2005, 09:00 PM
I AGREE

Later, QD.

Ruiner
10-24-2005, 10:24 PM
they way u type has nothing to do with your education. some of us just could care less about what people on the internet think of us. the only time it should ever really even matter is if you were writing a letter to a company or for something important. but being just a internet forum or chat, i think some people need to get over it, its not going to kill anyone.

It's "couldn't care less" and how you type is a natural function. Think of it as second-nature in a sense. If you type incorrectly on an internet forum, chances are that you will do the same in the first draft of your school papers.

Ruiner
10-24-2005, 10:26 PM
lol jk, yea i agree with you brandon people need to learn how to use their words. I'm definately guilty, I probably made a mistake in that one sentence.

You definitely did. ;)

RandomGuy
10-24-2005, 10:29 PM
blah ruiners bored today

Ruiner
10-24-2005, 10:30 PM
blah ruiners bored today

;)

Schugg
10-24-2005, 10:33 PM
It's "couldn't care less" and how you type is a natural function. Think of it as second-nature in a sense. If you type incorrectly on an internet forum, chances are that you will do the same in the first draft of your school papers.

haha, yessss i know, but when i type on here, im usually in a hurry. if i am typing something like school reports, i take time on it. I'm not going to lie, i have caught myself a few times using internet slang on papers, and im sure alot of other people here have. but i always make sure to fix that before anyone ever knows

D16Civic
10-24-2005, 10:36 PM
i cdnuolt blveiee taht I cluod aulaclty uesdnatnrd waht I was rdanieg. The phaonmneal pweor of the hmuan mnid, aoccdrnig to a rscheearch at Cmabrigde Uinervtisy, it dseno't mtaetr in waht oerdr the ltteres in a wrod are, the olny iproamtnt tihng is taht the frsit and lsat ltteer be in the rghit pclae. The rset can be a taotl mses and you can sitll raed it whotuit a pboerlm. Tihs is bcuseae the huamn mnid deos not raed ervey lteter by istlef, but the wrod as a wlohe. Azanmig huh? yaeh and I awlyas tghuhot slpeling was ipmorantt!

woah, that's pretty cool, its not hard to read that at all

PinkTaco04
10-24-2005, 10:49 PM
woah, that's pretty cool, its not hard to read that at all


lol i didnt expect anyone to say that, if i had posted that in a new topic
i would probably be killed by the repost police

SLOWR/T
10-24-2005, 10:59 PM
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y266/NAFC3S/colinpowell.jpg

PinkTaco04
10-24-2005, 11:06 PM
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y266/NAFC3S/colinpowell.jpg


lololollolololololool

CRVTech
10-24-2005, 11:11 PM
The people that need the information the most will not read all of it. Very well put, poor spelling irks me. :yay:

trythefly
10-25-2005, 08:19 AM
&&

mocha latte cupcake
10-25-2005, 09:05 AM
Im two layze two reed this, sew im just going two make a post coz im kewl like that. much love kids... you know i'm just kidding.

Ruiner
10-25-2005, 09:57 AM
Im two layze two reed this, sew im just going two make a post coz im kewl like that. much love kids... you know i'm just kidding.

Oh, I know. It's easy to see when you purposefully type like this... However, when someone uses the wrong form of "there/their/they're", it is very apparent that the person does not have a full grasp on the English language.

mocha latte cupcake
10-25-2005, 09:58 AM
this is true, ruiner is wise beyond his boost...

thinkfast®
10-25-2005, 11:30 AM
http://www.firekite.com/store/misc/pics/forum23/tmyk.jpg

This is pretty much the worst post of all time. :lmfao:

If you get your rocks off correcting grammatical mistakes in an online message forum, well I feel sad for you. I'm not a perfect speller, I don't attempt to be. I expect much less from an online board of car enthusiasts :lmfao: You will have to excuse me if my expectations aren't too high. I don't come on here for perfectly formed sentences and correctly placed puncuation. I find it hard to believe you get so upset at posts that are not spelled correctly. If that was the case the only place you would be is NWS :D

Shouldn't this be in the education forum? Misplaced threads really piss me off! LOL