SAW IV

[ORGANIZATIONXIII]

Just saw the ad for it!

I don't know about anyone on this board.. but I've been a hardcore SAW fan.. I really like the series, I admit, the 3rd one was alright, so hopefully this one doesn't let down. I just don't want to see the series GO DOWNHILL..

I hope JIGSAW ain't dead yet.. and the new traps look SICK..

opening SCENE!!! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0JjTZ4kfAjI


preview
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aIbShwaxLVE

[mocha latte cupcake]

seriously! i love the saw series its amazing! and yeha i'm waiting to see how they tie all that together lol that opening scene is just sick awesome! lol

[an0therh22]

omg i thought the saw series was over but i can't believe they're making another one. the 4th one is going to be awesome.

[VooDooXII]

I thought everyone died...what could this one possibly be about?

I was never into horror movies, but the Saw series was AWESOME. There was just something cool about the traps...I mean, in the first one. There's poison in the air, and the antidote in the safe in front of you, and the combination written on the wall. However, there's only a candle as a source of light, there's shattered glass all over the floor, there are about 50000 other combinations on the wall as well, and your body's coated in a flammable paste. That was all just too cool...sick as hell, but totally gripping.

I'm excited for this one...I don't even know what to expect. I bet the traps will be just as impressive though. That opening scene one...holy ****. A man who can't see chained to a man who can't speak...amazing.

[ORGANIZATIONXIII]

how exciting... in a sinister way :ninja:

repped

[aaronfelipe]

****ing insane man. I can't wait to see it.

[aemkitfox]

Yea just saw Good Look Chuck, Saw IV with the preview. Good times I can't wait!

[Revmaynard]

It would suck to get stabbed and not be able to yell because your mouth was sewn shut.

[ORGANIZATIONXIII]

^^ lol

[Pebbles]

cant wait to see it!

[ORGANIZATIONXIII]

I wonder what those guys did..

I guess one looked at little girls and the other talked too much ****.. lol

[VooDooXII]

It would suck to get your mouth sewn shut.

Fixed:screwy:


I wonder what those guys did..

I guess one looked at little girls and the other talked too much ****.. lol

Haha, makes sense...

[ubers2k]

a fifth one is already confirmed, FYI

[TicketRedBB6]

a fifth one is already confirmed, FYI

Seriously? I assumed this would be the last one...I dont know what else they could go on about for two more movies. Hopefully they don't start running out of ideas and the movies are horrible.

[silver]

From what I have read, this one is supposed to explain alot from the first 3, the story is apparently going to all tie together and answer alot of questions.

I also read that they had to go back and redo a whole 30 minute scene becuase it was too gory and whoever I guess lets movies goes to the theater told them they had to redo it... If that's true, can't wait for the dvd to come out with the deleted scenes, lol..

But yeah, cannot wait for this to come out! Even though the first one was the best and the 2nd and 3rd arent as great as i expected them to be, I still loved all of them!! Just to bad I will be in statesboro for homecoming weekend and won't get to watch it opening night :( lol

[VooDooXII]

From what I have read, this one is supposed to explain alot from the first 3, the story is apparently going to all tie together and answer alot of questions.

I also read that they had to go back and redo a whole 30 minute scene becuase it was too gory and whoever I guess lets movies goes to the theater told them they had to redo it... If that's true, can't wait for the dvd to come out with the deleted scenes, lol..

I thought number 3 was just supposed to confirm all suspicions that you had about the first two. I mean, everyone died at the end of 3. I thought Saw 3 just had a lot of gore and a little bit of story. Then again, people were telling me that it was just overkill blood and gore. I watched it and it wasn't as nasty as I thought it'd be.

But hang on...too gory? How bad does it have to be to be completely remove the scene?

Also...WHAT THE HELL WILL THEY PUT IN SAW FIVE? I'm pretty sure it'll blow...the traps would be the only thing that could save it.

[VooDooXII]

By the way...I stumbled across this. I thought it was pretty interesting.

A list of the traps and a description of them, from the Saw movies. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_traps_in_the_Saw_film_series#Quadruple_sho tgun_trap)

[crxsiguy]

By the way...I stumbled across this. I thought it was pretty interesting.

A list of the traps and a description of them, from the Saw movies. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_traps_in_the_Saw_film_series#Quadruple_sho tgun_trap)
coolness! +! for that

[ISAtlanta300]

Also...WHAT THE HELL WILL THEY PUT IN SAW FIVE? I'm pretty sure it'll blow...the traps would be the only thing that could save it.

The traps ARE the only things that have been saving the SAW series....

[mocha latte cupcake]

points for the linx. directors cut would be the one reason for deleting a scene...

[ubers2k]

oh, and I just found out... SAW 6 will be out in what, two years... yep....

[VooDooXII]

oh, and I just found out... SAW 6 will be out in what, two years... yep....

LIES

[ubers2k]

nope, I've known about five but 6 was just confirmed... I'll look for the link again

[VooDooXII]

nope, I've known about five but 6 was just confirmed... I'll look for the link again

I don't know what to say...I read that Tobin Bell had a contract for five Saw movies while I was reading about the traps...but c'mon...six?

[ubers2k]

http://www.allocine.co.uk/film/fichefilm_gen_cfilm=130154.html

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saw_(film_series)... hell, I'll even quote this one:

"Future Development
Tobin Bell has stated that he was signed on for a total of five sequels,[3] and Producer Oren Koules confirmed on June 22, 2007 that both Saw V and VI are currently being written, quite possibly for a Halloween 2008 and 2009 release.[4][5]"

[ubers2k]

saw 5 and 6 are being mentioned all over the Lionsgate boards and web site in general.

[thecrazyone]

Just saw the ad for it!

I don't know about anyone on this board.. but I've been a hardcore SAW fan.. I really like the series, I admit, the 3rd one was alright, so hopefully this one doesn't let down. I just don't want to see the series GO DOWNHILL..

I hope JIGSAW ain't dead yet.. and the new traps look SICK..

opening SCENE!!! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0JjTZ4kfAjI


preview
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aIbShwaxLVE

* i also read about the new traps in the new saw movie and a cool promo pics. all on wikipeidia

This first trap was revealed in a clip at Comic-Con International 2007. It starts off with a man waking up on the floor of a mausoleum with a locked collar around his neck, attached to a chain. He starts to panic when he realizes that his eyes have been sewn shut and he can't see. He starts pulling on the chain to try to release himself and the camera follows the chain to the other side of the room where a man named Art wakes up shackled at the neck by the same chain. Art quickly realizes that his mouth has been sewn shut and he can't speak. Between the two of them is a device that the chain passes through, held by a tab. During the ensuing struggle, the blind man knocks over a chair with multiple instruments on it, including an axe and some hooks. As he begins pulling on the chain, yanking Art closer to the machine, the tab is pulled out, activating the device. It starts cranking, slowly winding the single chain connecting the two, pulling the two of them closer together. The guys pull back and forth on the chain, each getting closer to the machine, though the lack of communication makes it impossible for them to work together on solving the puzzle. Art spots a key on the back of the blind man's collar and realizes that it might open the collar around his neck. As he starts making his way over, he arms himself with the axe to protect himself before the two men start fighting. The blind man swings a hook randomly before Art manages to knock it from his hand with the axe. Struggling further, Art eventually manages to get the key from the blind man. As he attempts to unlock his collar, the blind man attacks again, and Art is forced to kill him smashing his head in with the axe. Finally, Art fumbles to try to open the lock on his collar. He manages to remove it, but blood spews from his mouth as he screams, tearing away the stitches.

[VooDooXII]

That just spelled out the opening scene.

Oh yea...the music was intense (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6dBRSe8N7Vk).

[con]

ok, finally saw III and the previews to IV. who the **** is carrying on with Jigsaw's work???

[nreggie454]

I have only seen SAW 1, and since then, haven't cared at all.

To me, the SAW series is a feeble attempt at copying Se7en, but with much ****tier writing and gory trap scenes to redeem them.

[DaMaGe ZWK]

I cant wait to see this ****... Im a HARDCORE Saw Fan... I even named my dog Saw...

[OneSlow5pt0]

did anyone see it on that scream thing last night?

where jigsaw(the old man) made this guy push his face through rows of knives,to unlock his hands and feet

[VooDooXII]

did anyone see it on that scream thing last night?

where jigsaw(the old man) made this guy push his face through rows of knives,to unlock his hands and feet

The knife chair...I know it exists, but I haven't seen it on TV. He has to hit a platform with his head to release the locks.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/0/01/KnifeChair40%25.JPG

[OneSlow5pt0]

The knife chair...I know it exists, but I haven't seen it on TV. He has to hit a platform with his head to release the locks.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/0/01/KnifeChair40%25.JPG

yep,but it showed most of the scene

[VooDooXII]

yep,but it showed most of the scene

Yea...haven't seen that one.

[Deke]

I have only seen SAW 1, and since then, haven't cared at all.

To me, the SAW series is a feeble attempt at copying Se7en, but with much ****tier writing and gory trap scenes to redeem them.

Well put. I've had trouble explaining why I don't really like them, and this pretty much hits the nail on the head.

I also find Jigsaw to be annoying as ****. I mean he does all of these super elaborate things just to give someone a lesson (often over stupid things) where the almost inevitably die anyways. I mean, really? REALLY???

The first one was alright. After that it's pretty much just the horror version of porn. A bad storyline with occasional fun scenes to keep you watching (in porn sex, in Saw gore).

Wow that pretty much turned into a full blown rant. Lol.

That being said I'm still wondering what twisted contraptions the writers come up with his time.

[OneSlow5pt0]

Yea...haven't seen that one.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e7XSLu9o6-s

[VooDooXII]

The first one was alright. After that it's pretty much just the horror version of porn. A bad storyline with occasional fun scenes to keep you watching (in porn sex, in Saw gore).

That being said I'm still wondering what twisted contraptions the writers come up with his time.

:lmao: @ the first part.

@ the second...that's really the only reason I want to see this one. I'm not going to the theaters for it.

I really want to see Se7en.

[OneSlow5pt0]

:lmao: @ the first part.

@ the second...that's really the only reason I want to see this one. I'm not going to the theaters for it.

I really want to see Se7en.


u have never seen 7?

[DaMaGe ZWK]

se7en is the ****!!!!

[VooDooXII]

u have never seen 7?

Nope.

People tell me that Saw is a blatant rip of Se7en, and if I liked the traps like the razor wire maze in Saw, then I'd LOVE that movie.

[nreggie454]

Nope.

People tell me that Saw is a blatant rip of Se7en, and if I liked the traps like the razor wire maze in Saw, then I'd LOVE that movie.

SAW rips off Se7en in the psychological standpoint where the killer performs his murders by killing people who personify one of the Seven Deadly Sins by making them do the sin until they die. Se7en is elaborate, disturbing, and a great psychological thriller. In addition, it is actually believable.

SAW took that whole concept, but got a 5th grader to write it. It's only saving grace is the traps, which weren't enough for me. SAW has twists, but ****ing stupid twists. In addition, SAW isn't believable at all. For example, in SAW 1, how could cancer boy lay motionless through the whole bull**** fiasco in the room with dudes chained together without them noticing? Some parts of that movie were so dumb, that people in the theater were laughing at it. IMO, in a good scary movie, the moviegoers get scared, they don't laugh at one of the most "pivotal" points of the movie.

SAW = Hostel to me. Pseudo disturbing, only because of the gore factor, but NO plausible storyline whatsoever. BTW that ****ing doll on the tricycle is the stupidest thing I have ever seen. Very scary :rolleyes:

RottenTomatoes.com ratings of the SAW movies:
SAW 1: 46% (bad)
SAW 2: 35% (worse)
SAW 3: 27% (don't even think about seeing it)

See a trend?

RottenTomatoes.com rating of Se7en: 84% (good, especially for a scary movie)

[DaMaGe ZWK]

well im going to see it in an hour... my friend works at the movies and they are watching it tonight....so i guess when i get back ill let you guys know how good it is... im a big fan of it though so i guess my opinion wont count to you guys anyway

[Brut]

the movie was ok i saw it today i never saw the 3rd one so i skipped it and went to 4 not a huge fan of the saw movies anyways. but if you like watching people die and **** go see it

[The Ninja]

THERES NOTHING LIEK WATCHING PEOPLE DIE.

[.blank cd]

SAW rips off Se7en in the psychological standpoint where the killer performs his murders by killing people who personify one of the Seven Deadly Sins by making them do the sin until they die. Se7en is elaborate, disturbing, and a great psychological thriller. In addition, it is actually believable.

SAW took that whole concept, but got a 5th grader to write it. It's only saving grace is the traps, which weren't enough for me. SAW has twists, but ****ing stupid twists. In addition, SAW isn't believable at all. For example, in SAW 1, how could cancer boy lay motionless through the whole bull**** fiasco in the room with dudes chained together without them noticing? Some parts of that movie were so dumb, that people in the theater were laughing at it. IMO, in a good scary movie, the moviegoers get scared, they don't laugh at one of the most "pivotal" points of the movie.

SAW = Hostel to me. Pseudo disturbing, only because of the gore factor, but NO plausible storyline whatsoever. BTW that ****ing doll on the tricycle is the stupidest thing I have ever seen. Very scary :rolleyes:

RottenTomatoes.com ratings of the SAW movies:
SAW 1: 46% (bad)
SAW 2: 35% (worse)
SAW 3: 27% (don't even think about seeing it)

See a trend?

RottenTomatoes.com rating of Se7en: 84% (good, especially for a scary movie)

Ive seen both, they're not the same, and box office figures dont lie. saw ownz. What is rotten tomatoes anyway?
Se7ens killer made them do the sin until they die, correct. Saw's killer is totally different. His victims are wrongdoers and made them pay for what they did, but gives them a chance to get out.

If your judging movie quality, Seven. If you're wantign to see a scary movie, Saw ownz hands down.. But the fact is Saw and Seven are two different movie genres also. Saw, Hostel=torture porn; Seven=horror

BTW, Saw 5 is in the works and 6 is being written, there is also talk about going up to 10 provided they can keep coming up with sick methods of torture

[.blank cd]

Saw 1, budget was 1.5 mil, he flipped that into 40+, 2 grossed even more, and 3 held the status quo. 4 will do the same.

[DaMaGe ZWK]

i just got back from seeing it and it was pretty damn good... not as twisted as the others (which is why i like them so much) but more gore....

[ubers2k]

IMO, in a good scary movie, the moviegoers get scared, they don't laugh at one of the most "pivotal" points of the movie.

There really aren't any "good" horror movies. Most of the movies produced now are more for shock factor than they are to scare you. If they get you to jump even the slightest, then they've done their job. Movie ratings and the people reviewing them are all from an opinionated standpoint. Some get scared, while others don't. If the person reviewing the film doesn't get anxious, nervous, or scared at all, then it gets a poor rating. The only horror critics I will even consider are those that are actually horror movie directors or creators. I can't stand the others that actually shoot down the movie because it isn't thought-provoking enough or believeable. Think about it. Some of the greatest horror movies around aren't believeable (think Halloween, Friday the 13th, Nightmare on Elm Street, and Hellraiser).

Oh, and I laugh during every single "scary" movie. I have never had one scare me, but that's just me.

[Lizbiz101]

Gotta see it!!!!!!

[SPOOLIN]

man saw 4 was some f u c k e d up s h i t, and the end was really confusing with flashing back to the previous Saw and it was really crazy traps.

[ubers2k]

man saw 4 was some f u c k e d up s h i t, and the end was really confusing with flashing back to the previous Saw and it was really crazy traps.

So I have an idea... let's NOT talk about the movie until tomorrow and post up a seperate thread with the spoilers in that one. I didn't need to know that they flash back to that movie... keep that **** to yourself dude.

[dc2teg2006]

Se7en is great!!
I like saw I
saw II too much gore for me..lol
never seen III
maybe I will see IV, but i think horror movies has lost some of their touch, most recent horror movie i seen was hollween crap! suck balls

[VooDooXII]

Se7en is great!!
I like saw I
saw II too much gore for me..lol
never seen III
maybe I will see IV, but i think horror movies has lost some of their touch, most recent horror movie i seen was hollween crap! suck balls

If Saw II was too much gore for you, then you probably won't be into Saw III.

[SPOOLIN]

So I have an idea... let's NOT talk about the movie until tomorrow and post up a seperate thread with the spoilers in that one. I didn't need to know that they flash back to that movie... keep that **** to yourself dude.


its flash backs, i didnt tell you what they flashed back too, they do that s h i t in all of them just about. You should have been ready for a spoiler in a movie thread especially when we said above that we were about to watch it... and really, who cares, just watch the movie.

[dc2teg2006]

If Saw II was too much gore for you, then you probably won't be into Saw III.

Yea I guess, im a lil screamies asian kid!!! lol :D

:bannana::bannana::bannana::bannana::bannana::bann ana::bannana:

[DaMaGe ZWK]

Se7en is great!!
I like saw I
saw II too much gore for me..lol
never seen III
maybe I will see IV, but i think horror movies has lost some of their touch, most recent horror movie i seen was hollween crap! suck balls
hAlloween crap??? WTF is wrong with you, that movie was freakin beautiful

[VooDooXII]

man saw 4 was some f u c k e d up s h i t, and the end was really confusing with flashing back to the previous Saw and it was really crazy traps.

Yay, good...

I still don't think I want to pay for it though...

[ubers2k]

Se7en is great!!
I like saw I
saw II too much gore for me..lol
never seen III
maybe I will see IV, but i think horror movies has lost some of their touch, most recent horror movie i seen was hollween crap! suck balls

I thought the remake of Halloween was actually good. It must have been, considering the creator/director, John Carpenter, himself, gave Rob Zombie his blessing on the film. Granted it didn't end the way it should have, but it did have more in the way of WHY it happened the way it did. Halloween "crap" came about after the second, original, Halloween movie was released. The same goes for most continuations of films, long after the original creator has dismissed the series (Most of the seconds, thirds, and so fourth are written and directed by someone completely different that the original, with only an "Ok" to stand behind the release). I have much respect for the originals, but the remakes are pretty amazing in themselves. The Texas Chainsaw Massacre and TCM:The Beginning both did their job in remaking the films and adding to questions that the originals brought about. Anyway, it's noticable that most all horror films now are about who can produce the most gore. The Saw series, as well as most any film produced by Lions Gate Films, are winning, hands down. Why? Because they undertake and release independent films.

A comment in this thread stated that "a 5th grader wrote it." Well, it was something along those lines. Anyway, the first Saw film WAS an independent film. Hell, one of the writers (I think it was the writer of the film anyway) was also the photographer from the film (I don't remember his name off the top of my head). The fact is, people debate on what differentiates "good" horror from "bad" horror. Nobody is right on this because it varies from person to person, along with their tastes in films and what they look for altogether. A movie is made to entertain you, while following the basics for whatever genre they are trying to go for.

Sorry this turned into a rant. I just wanted to express my opinions on this matter... I'm still going to see the movie, although I doubt too much will 1-up the movie 30 Days of Night.

[ubers2k]

its flash backs, i didnt tell you what they flashed back too, they do that s h i t in all of them just about. You should have been ready for a spoiler in a movie thread especially when we said above that we were about to watch it... and really, who cares, just watch the movie.

But alot of people (maybe not everyone in here) don't like movies to be spoiled. Notice how there was a Halo 3 thread, and then one for those that actually beat the game? It's called respect, that's all. If you want to discuss the film, just make another thread. Is it really that hard?

On another note, I know that they all flashback to different parts of the other films. I just was stating that I didn't need to know that it was from the first film, or any other for that matter.

[VooDooXII]

Hell, one of the writers (I think it was the writer of the film anyway) was also the photographer from the film (I don't remember his name off the top of my head).

Leigh Whanell...hah, and he's Australian too. He was the younger guy in Saw I.

[ubers2k]

Leigh Whanell...hah, and he's Australian too. He was the younger guy in Saw I.

yeah, I suck with names. I don't even care about actors actually. If the movie can make me say "holy **** that was awesome", then it's done it's job. haha

[dc2teg2006]

hAlloween crap??? WTF is wrong with you, that movie was freakin beautiful

reason i didnt like the movie was because, the movie pace was to fast, it really didn't explain certain parts. Like when the kid that murder everyone was in the insitution, and sudden 15 years later the doctor wrote a book about him being a devil child, and how all the stars was aline and such? The movie didn't explain why he was a devil child or I might have missed it. Also if you were locked up most of the time for 15years making mask, how the hell you become that strong? even if you tall as ****, you still need to work out to become that strong, unless you poping steroids! lol

The movie wasn't scary for the most part, unless their was a sudden pop up here and there, other then that the movie just fell out for me after the kid murder his family.
Horror movies doesn't have to be realistic, but have to be believiable to be good in my book.:taun:

[an0therh22]

where the hell do these people keep up coming up with crazy ideas on how to torture someone. im going to see it saturday though. hopefully itll be awesome. alot of movies lately have let me down.

[.blank cd]

Yeah some of us havent seen the movie yet, so when you reveal details about it, please head your post with SPOILER ALERT!!!! That is all

[dc2teg2006]

where the hell do these people keep up coming up with crazy ideas on how to torture someone. im going to see it saturday though. hopefully itll be awesome. alot of movies lately have let me down.

you'll be surprise how twisted the human psychic really is.:taun:

[Repost Squintz]

doood that movie kicked ass! just saw it tonight... haven't seen any of the saw's before but you dont really need too. damn, good thing i didnt eat lasagna or spaghetti before hand lol.

[Clegger]

Saw IV of what?

*fail on myself, lol bedtime

[ORGANIZATIONXIII]

wow.. this thread took off!

I can't wait to see it tomorrow!

[DaMaGe ZWK]

reason i didnt like the movie was because, the movie pace was to fast, it really didn't explain certain parts. Like when the kid that murder everyone was in the insitution, and sudden 15 years later the doctor wrote a book about him being a devil child, and how all the stars was aline and such? The movie didn't explain why he was a devil child or I might have missed it. Also if you were locked up most of the time for 15years making mask, how the hell you become that strong? even if you tall as ****, you still need to work out to become that strong, unless you poping steroids! lol

The movie wasn't scary for the most part, unless their was a sudden pop up here and there, other then that the movie just fell out for me after the kid murder his family.
Horror movies doesn't have to be realistic, but have to be believiable to be good in my book.:taun:
so you said you dont know why hes a devil child??? i guess you missed the first of the movie....

[dc2teg2006]

so you said you dont know why hes a devil child??? i guess you missed the first of the movie....

the only thing i knew was when the doctor talks about the alining of the planets or stars and that the child was the child of the devil.:thinking:

Even if the story explain it, still the movie was not believible how he broke out of his stackles like it was nothing. Also how he got shot 3 time by that pistol,and it didn't cause him any harm, like a shatterd shoulder maybe. I can say more on it but, back to the subject of Saw.:blah: lol

[an0therh22]

wow i dont even have to watch the movie, its all here.

[Lizbiz101]

wow i dont even have to watch the movie, its all here. Yeah pretty much lol. I guess they just think everyone has seen it already just because they've seen it.:doh:

[ubers2k]

the only thing i knew was when the doctor talks about the alining of the planets or stars and that the child was the child of the devil.:thinking:

Even if the story explain it, still the movie was not believible how he broke out of his stackles like it was nothing. Also how he got shot 3 time by that pistol,and it didn't cause him any harm, like a shatterd shoulder maybe. I can say more on it but, back to the subject of Saw.:blah: lol

so I guess that the original Halloween was more believeable? Seriously, in that he got shot out of a WINDOW, and he still was unscathed. Adrenaline does wonders, and considering he was probably drugged up from all the meds they were giving him, it doesn't suprise me in the slightest that he was able to break the cuffs holding him there. I don't understand why people try to analize films. They are to entertain, not to show what you can and can't do. Since when were films not based off of any real fact realistic or believeable?

[ubers2k]

actually, come to think of it, I don't think there is a single horror film out there that could really be considered "believeable."

[dc2teg2006]

so I guess that the original Halloween was more believeable? Seriously, in that he got shot out of a WINDOW, and he still was unscathed. It's just like when .50 got shot 9 times and lived to talk about it...

even tho .50 got shot 9 times, he didn't just get up and walked like nothing happen, he was hostipalize and recondition back to normal. I can't speak about the believiablity of the original Halloween because I didn't see it:D . It just no believeable to me. the critics gave the move a C, and I give it a C as well. You are entitle to your opinion. Se7en made sense in a twisted way, this didn't to me, it miss something in it!! :yes:

[ubers2k]

eh, to each his own... Michael did go down though, remember?

Go watch the original Halloween and then tell me which is more believeable. I think you'd be suprised. Anyway, I'm out... gonna go get tickets for Saw 4 tonight.

[dc2teg2006]

actually, come to think of it, I don't think there is a single horror film out there that could really be considered "believeable."

LOL!! there is a difference in realistic and believable. Believable is like, yeah that could happen if that that thing was real, or that happen in real life. But a man just broke out of metal shackles like that. comon you have to admitted that **** was unrealistic!

[nreggie454]

There really aren't any "good" horror movies. Most of the movies produced now are more for shock factor than they are to scare you. If they get you to jump even the slightest, then they've done their job. Movie ratings and the people reviewing them are all from an opinionated standpoint. Some get scared, while others don't. If the person reviewing the film doesn't get anxious, nervous, or scared at all, then it gets a poor rating. The only horror critics I will even consider are those that are actually horror movie directors or creators. I can't stand the others that actually shoot down the movie because it isn't thought-provoking enough or believeable. Think about it. Some of the greatest horror movies around aren't believeable (think Halloween, Friday the 13th, Nightmare on Elm Street, and Hellraiser).

Oh, and I laugh during every single "scary" movie. I have never had one scare me, but that's just me.

I disagree. There are good horror movies out there that are still being made (i.e. 1408 and 28 Weeks Later IMO), but purely gory films are not scary whatsoever. For example, the guys that made Hostel knew that their movie wasn't scary, so they hyped up the gore in all their advertisements.

I said one reason that SAW was bad because it wasn't believable was because it is just supposed to be a human serial killer killing other people, so IMO, it should be pretty believable. Also, that was far from my only complaint about the movie. The movies you listed are good, and they don't have to be believable at all. Two different categories of horror movies IMO.

It takes more than a couple pop ups and gory scenes for a movie to scare me, especially when the main character (Cary Elwes from Robin Hood: Men in Tights), makes William Shatner look like the best actor ever. Also, I see more complex twists when I tie my shoes than when I watch SAW.

[ubers2k]

LOL!! there is a difference in realistic and believable. Believable is like, yeah that could happen if that that thing was real, or that happen in real life. But a man just broke out of metal shackles like that. comon you have to admitted that **** was unrealistic!

Depends on the grade of metal, etc. etc. Funny thing was that the first time I saw the remake, it was online. That whole part was not in the first cut of the film. The version I saw played out like this...

Michael was in his room, working on a mask (go figure). Two of the gaurds were there, checking on the rooms. Only problem was that they were actually ****ing around with the patients. They took one of the girls out of the room and proceeded to Michaels' room. They then took her and started to try to rape her IN Michaels' room. He got pissed, killed one of the guys, and took off through the open doorway.

There were other parts that weren't the same, like the stabbing of the nurse when his mother was visiting. During that, all you see is the screen showing the nurse get attacked. The original cut showed that the nurse INSTIGATED the stabbing with her stating that "the kid in the picture was cute and couldn't be related to him" (kid being Michaels' younger sister).

IMO, the first cut was the best one. I didn't like how it ended and prefer the theatrical cut better in that aspect.

[ubers2k]

I disagree. There are good horror movies out there that are still being made (i.e. 1408 and 28 Weeks Later IMO), but purely gory films are not scary whatsoever. For example, the guys that made Hostel knew that their movie wasn't scary, so they hyped up the gore in all their advertisements.

28 Weeks Later lived up to it's hype, but it just wasn't scary. 1408 was good, but could have been better. Hostel was a damn good movie IMO, mainly because of what that movie accomplished. Slovokia was PISSED when that movie came out (similar to Brazil and Turistas) because it was portraying that area to be a violent place. It might be true seeing as I've never walked the streets of any European cities/towns.

28 Weeks Later was only believeable because it was a virus taking over (ala Resident Evil), and not some unknown force. Hell, I looke forward to the next installment.

I expected more out of 1408 though. I'm a huge Stephen King fan (I'm looking forward to The Mist) and after reading the novella that the movie was based on, I had high hopes. It did indeed do what it was meant to do, considering it was only a PG-13 film. It's just that I read the story and expected it more to look like "spirits" instead of this "home movie" projection when he was seeing stuff in the room.

[ubers2k]

Ok, now I'm done... but if any of you wanna check out some really good movies, go get these...

The Abandoned
Dark Ride
Shutter

Now I'm out.. seriously... I'll post up my opinions this evening after I watch Saw 4. Later.

[dc2teg2006]

I like 28 days later, but it could have been better, but none the less great film to watch. I also seen some stupid zombies movies like dawn of the dead, and all of the installment of it. I even have the collection, and it sucked.


so I guess that the original Halloween was more believeable? Seriously, in that he got shot out of a WINDOW, and he still was unscathed. Adrenaline does wonders, and considering he was probably drugged up from all the meds they were giving him, it doesn't suprise me in the slightest that he was able to break the cuffs holding him there. I don't understand why people try to analize films. They are to entertain, not to show what you can and can't do. Since when were films not based off of any real fact realistic or believeable?

Yeah adrenaline can do wonders, but so can 3 bullets that were meant for animals too! I dont give a F***** how druged up you are, if you think you superman and stop a car, you gonna be a little more F***** up after jumping infront of it. lol

Yes movie are meant to entertain, a good movie does entertain, but a bad movie tries to entertain, there were the difference lies.

[VooDooXII]

Okay, how much did 28 Weeks Later have to do with 28 Days Later?

I really liked 28 Days Later, because it sort of instilled that feeling of "hopelessness".

[nreggie454]

Okay, how much did 28 Weeks Later have to do with 28 Days Later?

I really liked 28 Days Later, because it sort of instilled that feeling of "hopelessness".

28 Weeks Later is a separate story from 28 Days, and you can actually watch it with little knowledge of the first one. It is about the recolonization of Britain after the people infected with rage should have died out. As you can easily assume, the plans don't work out swimmingly. I highly recommend it.

[VooDooXII]

28 Weeks Later is a separate story from 28 Days, and you can actually watch it with little knowledge of the first one. It is about the recolonization of Britain after the people infected with rage should have died out. As you can easily assume, the plans don't work out swimmingly. I highly recommend it.

So, no rage in 28 Weeks? Sounds interesting though. I'll have to check that out...along with Se7en.

[Deke]

So, no rage in 28 Weeks? Sounds interesting though. I'll have to check that out...along with Se7en.

Haha, no, judging by the previews and the first 3 minutes of it (all that I've seen) , I'm pretty sure that rage is still in it. I think he was more just refering to the storyline of the characters in 28 Days later.

[SRCRX]

Ya, The coolest ways for ppl to kiil them selfs

Going to see it tomorrow!!

[nreggie454]

So, no rage in 28 Weeks? Sounds interesting though. I'll have to check that out...along with Se7en.

There is definitely rage in 28 Weeks, just none of the original characters. I just didn't wanna ruin anything in the movie for you.

[Tech5]

I hope you all watched SAW III before you see the IV

[ubers2k]

Saw IV was what I had hoped. It's a good continuation of the story, and helps explain things that weren't really drawn out in the third one. I won't spoil anything, but will tell you that you get to find out what happens to a few key people in the previous films. It wasn't scary, but it wasn't bad either. There were quite a few "holy sh!t!" moments in it, and I loved the traps. As stated before though, go see the third one before this one.

[VooDooXII]

Couple questions...PM me if you're worried about putting spoilers in this thread.

-I don't remember whether Matthews died in number 3, so is he back in number 4?

-I read something about Obi from Saw II (furnace guy) being involved with Jigsaw...does that get explained?

-I forgot his name from number 3...Jeff I think? Anyway...is he in number 4? I remember him being there at the end of 3, but doesn't it end right then?

[ubers2k]

PM'd

[VooDooXII]

You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to ubers2k again.

[BanginJimmy]

I saw it tonight, I thought it was ok, and it answered a few questions, but I still wasnt impressed.

[manilikecars]

Ok, now I'm done... but if any of you wanna check out some really good movies, go get these...

The Abandoned
Dark Ride
Shutter

Now I'm out.. seriously... I'll post up my opinions this evening after I watch Saw 4. Later.

sorry man but that movie was a waste of time. slept through most on it. Saw was really good. A little hard to follow at the end but still good. But i'm a big saw fan.

[ubers2k]

you kidding me? The Abandoned had probably one of the best horror movie plots in a long time... it did start kinda slow, but it actually kept me into the film. I'm a big horror movie fan, but very few movies can keep my interest.

What exactly bored you?

[manilikecars]

hell i don't know i just couldn't get into it. I love horror films as well and 2 friends went with me and they didn't like it either. That is the one with girl going home right

[ubers2k]

yeah... goes back to Russia to find out what happened to her family. (all I'm saying)

I never saw it in theaters, but picked it up because I'm collecting the After Dark Horrorfest films... I thought a few of the concepts were pretty bad ass, and the ending wasn't what I expected. I dunno, I enjoyed it, but to each their own.

[manilikecars]

yeah i wanted to see dark ride but haven't yet They have 8 more coming out

[ubers2k]

dark ride was just a typical slasher, but the setting made the movie a bit different. I know about the next 8, but they won't be out on DVD for a while... I may go see one or two in theaters if I can locate one that's playing nearby.

[VooDooXII]

Last House on the Left

Discuss...

[ubers2k]

Oh god, I haven't seen that in a long while... ****, since I was a kid to be honest (11 years ago or so I suppose).

That movie, along with all the other classic films (including all the slashers) brought me into the world of horror films... I need to go see that movie again now.

[BuBBa DRiFT]

Scream is my favorite thriller, but I consider it a horror because that **** is scary as hell when you are 10.

[ironchef]

Saw SAW 4 last night, thought it was pretty good, did answer a couple questions, made a couple new ones, and definitely left it open for 5 and 6.

[con]

damn'it, it continues........

[112480]

damn'it, it continues........
Hell yeah it continues just saw it an hour ago and it is the ****!!! I love the Saw series.... can't WAIT till part 5:goodjob: :goodjob:

[GDuty5_Chic]

Saw IV is the dumbest piece of crap I ever saw. They should of stopped at III.

Already predicted the "real" killer before mid movie, they tried to make it like Saw I, more blood and gruesome scenes but same **** different day.

[killerdx]

saw it yesterday with the g/f i didnt understand the ending? How was jigsaws body still in that room , when it showed them cutting him open in the begining? :???:

[VooDooXII]

saw it yesterday with the g/f i didnt understand the ending? How was jigsaws body still in that room , when it showed them cutting him open in the begining? :???:

I think you missed a big portion of it. Think about it.

[GDuty5_Chic]

saw it yesterday with the g/f i didnt understand the ending? How was jigsaws body still in that room , when it showed them cutting him open in the begining? :???:

they showed the ending first then went back in time

[TicketRedBB6]

they showed the ending first then went back in time

Damn im glad you said that. I just saw it and didnt understand the ending either, i didnt even think of them showing it first like that. It's a really good movie but very intense.