Thousands rally in La. to support Jena 6-

[YoTa_BoX]

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070920/ap_on_re_us/school_fight

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[quickdodge®]

I've been following this story since it's onset.

I'm going to request for this thread to be moved to the proper, more suitable section. Later, QD.

[Ran]

Another racist thread?

[Nomad!]

I've been following this one for a while now. I was going to make a thread about this weeks ago but, due to the immaturity of so many on this site, I find it pointless to make a thread about anything serious. It's just a matter of time before someone says "They are just pulling the race card."

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[BKgen®]

I've been following this one for a while now. I was going to make a thread about this weeks ago but, due to the immaturity of so many on this site, I find it pointless to make a thread about anything serious. It's just a matter of time before someone says "They are just pulling the race card."

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[quickdodge®]

I've been following this one for a while now. I was going to make a thread about this weeks ago but, due to the immaturity of so many on this site, I find it pointless to make a thread about anything serious. It's just a matter of time before someone says "They are just pulling the race card."

That's why I requested it be moved. Later, QD.

[Tasuki_Civic]

That's why I requested it be moved. Later, QD.


regardless of the move you will still get the same reaction. but the mods should do their job and move it.

[quickdodge®]

you will still get the same reaction.

I doubt it. Never seen it before. That's what I like about that section. The serious topics always stay serious. Later, QD.

[Jimmy B]

thats all it is, its a big race rally.. BLAH BLAH BLAH

im so sick and tired of ANYONE pulling the race card, but has anyone noticed, if a white person says anything, its racist, if a black person says somethign, its "freedom of speech" its SOOOOOO unbelievable.

i am friends with black, white, red, purple, brown and grey, but it irks me when that happens!

[XLR8NMR2]

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[BKgen®]

thats all it is, its a big race rally.. BLAH BLAH BLAH

im so sick and tired of ANYONE pulling the race card, but has anyone noticed, if a white person says anything, its racist, if a black person says somethign, its "freedom of speech" its SOOOOOO unbelievable.

i am friends with black, white, red, purple, brown and grey, but it irks me when that happens!

always been like that, always will be. I just ignore it. Fighting about race is teh ghey.

[XLR8NMR2]

race card?!?!? there was a noose hung by a tree in Lousiana...if thats not racist i don't know wtf is....

and fyi lousiana is probably the most racist state in this country by far.

[itsjustdee]

thats all it is, its a big race rally.. BLAH BLAH BLAH

im so sick and tired of ANYONE pulling the race card, but has anyone noticed, if a white person says anything, its racist, if a black person says somethign, its "freedom of speech" its SOOOOOO unbelievable.

i am friends with black, white, red, purple, brown and grey, but it irks me when that happens!

i'm not even gonna comment.
just gona give you a +1 if i can.

[itsjustdee]

white men hung a noose (which was racist), but no one was hurt.
six black men beat up a white dude (for whatever reason) was severly injured.

there was a difference.

[XLR8NMR2]

white men hung a noose (which was racist), but no one was hurt.
six black men beat up a white dude (for whatever reason) was severly injured.

there was a difference.

there is a difference dee dee but it's the principal of the situation...

that kid would of never got his ass beat if he didn't do that.....hanging up a noose is much worse than going up to a black man and calling him a NIGG*R

Actions speak louder than words.

[quickdodge®]

white men hung a noose (which was racist), but no one was hurt.
six black men beat up a white dude (for whatever reason) was severly injured.

there was a difference.

But at first you said:


i'm not even gonna comment.

Hmmm. But I understand. Later, QD.

[quickdodge®]

Actions speak louder than words.

Some people don't realize that shit, Mark.

Not necessarily saying you, Dee. Lolol. Later, QD.

[Nismo]

race card?!?!? there was a noose hung by a tree in Lousiana...if thats not racist i don't know wtf is....

and fyi lousiana is probably the most racist state in this country by far.

Actually the noose was used as a form of execution before blacks. If you wanna start putting that card out there I say guns are racist everytime I see a black guy with one.

[XLR8NMR2]

America will NEVER live in equality....

only because of it's past history that is still in textbooks, If everyone can forget about the past on move onto the future it will be a great start.

[XLR8NMR2]

Actually the noose was used as a form of execution before blacks. If you wanna start putting that card out there I say guns are racist everytime I see a black guy with one.

But what you don't understand is the time and place.....

Lousiana is the place
and the time is when every news story out there is blacks against whites or somehow bought up to racism

O.J
MIKE VICK
TERROISM
"BAGGY JEANS"
HIP HOP

All of these are "racist" debates.

[itsjustdee]

Some people don't realize that shit, Mark.

Not necessarily saying you, Dee. Lolol. Later, QD.

:tongue1:

[itsjustdee]

America will NEVER live in equality....

only because of it's past history that is still in textbooks, If everyone can forget about the past on move onto the future it will be a great start.

that's b/c half the time, people are pulling the race card.

[itsjustdee]

But what you don't understand is the time and place.....

Lousiana is the place
and the time is when every news story out there is blacks against whites or somehow bought up to racism

O.J
MIKE VICK
TERROISM
"BAGGY JEANS"
HIP HOP

All of these are "racist" debates.

vick killed dogs. how is that racist?
oj killed his wife. how is that racist?

i don't understand.

[quickdodge®]

But what you don't understand is the time and place.....

Lousiana is the place
and the time is when every news story out there is blacks against whites or somehow bought up to racism

O.J
MIKE VICK
TERROISM
"BAGGY JEANS"
HIP HOP

All of these are "racist" debates.

OJ and Vick shouldn't have racial ties to their headaches. OJ (if he killed her) didn't kill his girl because she was white. And Vick certainly didn't get "picked on" for doing something illegally because he is black. People, without lack of anything better to do, want to bring everything down to a racial issue instead of seeing it for what it is. Latyer, QD.

[XLR8NMR2]

that's b/c half the time, people are pulling the race card.

The race card is pulled everywhere, you have to understand that america is the most diverse country in all of the world....thats why the "race card" is pulled so often.....

the only way we can ever live in peace and equality is if everyone were the same race or if we all were color blind

even then i still think there would be wars fought over territory and money.....

in all honesty money and currencey fucked up everything for everyone.

[itsjustdee]

The race card is pulled everywhere, you have to understand that america is the most diverse country in all of the world....thats why the "race card" is pulled so often.....

the only way we can ever live in peace and equality is if everyone were the same race or if we all were color blind

even then i still think there would be wars fought over territory and money.....

in all honesty money and currencey fucked up everything for everyone.

What's the number one race that pulls the "race card?"

[Jimmy B]

Mark, this is what i wasn going to say,.. yes, people have there views, but its when people ASSUME the reason they have there views, thats where it goes to far in some cases, case in point


Actually the noose was used as a form of execution before blacks. If you wanna start putting that card out there I say guns are racist everytime I see a black guy with one.

[quickdodge®]

What's the number one race that pulls the "race card?"

To pull the race card is black people. The most racist people on Earth are white people. Later, QD.

[Jimmy B]

What's the number one race that pulls the "race card?"
no comment....


If everyone can forget about the past on move onto the future it will be a great start.
starting with "do you know what my family went through being slaves" that was 150-200 YEARS ago!!!!

vick, oj has NOTHING to do with race at all

[XLR8NMR2]

To pull the race card is black people. The most racist people on Earth are white people. Later, QD.

Trutfhully 50 years or so ago i would say that blacks have it the worst but thats only in america

in this day in age....islamic, jewish and middle eastern people have it the worst

and whites have always been the racist...this dates back to time and history......White people are always invading other lands and calling it "their own"

we would have no racism if everyone would stay where the fuck there from and not speak on racism as much.

[BobbyFresco]

I'm so sick of hearing the words race and card together...


The person that coined this phrase is a fucking idiot.

[XLR8NMR2]

no comment....


starting with "do you know what my family went through being slaves" that was 150-200 YEARS ago!!!!

vick, oj has NOTHING to do with race at all

well in a way it does.....

OJ was in front of an ALL white jury for killing his White wife and the prosecuters were all white so were the police officers...

O.J'S main defense was the best black lawyer available at the time....


in vicks case it's more lifestyle and culture....go anywhere outside america and see how dogs are mistreated....dogs are shot, eaten, hung and mistreated on a daily basis in america and esp in non english countries....

In vicks defense it's all contradictary... They same animal actvist fighting to get pit bulls banned in 50 states for killing small children are the same actvist that want vicks head....

and not to mention hunting is perfectly legal and considered sport in america....Dog fighting is natual in dogs, it's not like vick put a gun to the dogs head and made them fight...they fought on natrual instinct.

[Kyle]

15 years for beating someones ass is lame. And someone said nuses are racist, I dont think so, but in this context yes its def. racist.

[BobbyFresco]

What's the number one race that pulls the "race card?"


I guess jews, although not a race at least not in my opinion, don't ever pull this so called "race card"?

Hispanics don't either huh?

and surely Asians and ppl of Arabic or middle eastern descent NEVER do as well...:rolleyes:

[Dietcoke]

White power.

[BobbyFresco]

White power.


I guess you can't expect an inbred pickle licker to contribute too much
to an otherwise intelligent conversation. WOW.

[YoTa_BoX]

Quote by XLR8NMR2
and not to mention hunting is perfectly legal and considered sport in america....Dog fighting is natual in dogs, it's not like vick put a gun to the dogs head and made them fight...they fought on natrual instinct.
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Dude seriously if these dogs were out in the wild sure its natural for them to fight but Vick and all the other Dog fighters are in a Controled placed putting dogs in a pit that have not eatin for like a week and are trained to Kill.

No vick did not put a gun against their head But he did train them not feed them and Put them in a controled situation where the dog only knows one thing to kill or be killed.

[Dietcoke]

I guess you can't expect an inbred pickle licker to contribute too much
to an otherwise intelligent conversation. WOW.

Clearly satire is lost on you.

PS I'm not white.

[quickdodge®]

I guess you can't expect an inbred pickle licker to contribute too much
to an otherwise intelligent conversation. WOW.

Agreed. This is why I wanted this thread to be moved. The stupid people don't dare go into a section that involves thinking. Later, QD.

[BobbyFresco]

Clearly satire is lost on you.

PS I'm not white.



If I jumped the gun, I apologize BUT...How does posting the words "white power" translate to satire?:thinking:

[quickdodge®]

well in a way it does.....

OJ was in front of an ALL white jury for killing his White wife and the prosecuters were all white so were the police officers...

O.J'S main defense was the best black lawyer available at the time....

And what was that outcome? Again?



in vicks case it's more lifestyle and culture....go anywhere outside america and see how dogs are mistreated....dogs are shot, eaten, hung and mistreated on a daily basis in america and esp in non english countries....

In vicks defense it's all contradictary... They same animal actvist fighting to get pit bulls banned in 50 states for killing small children are the same actvist that want vicks head....

and not to mention hunting is perfectly legal and considered sport in america....Dog fighting is natual in dogs, it's not like vick put a gun to the dogs head and made them fight...they fought on natrual instinct.

I don't know why you make Vick's crime a race crime. Even his own boys ratted him out. If a black does something illegal and gets caught, it's only illegal if he's black? Later, QD.

[quickdodge®]

If I jumped the gun, I apologize BUT...How does posting the words "white power" translate to satire?:thinking:

Because he's a black dude saying white power? But that wouldn't be satire, that would be irony. Which still leads to main point of the post...why? and what purpose did it serve in a discussion? Later, QD.

[BobbyFresco]

Because he's a black dude saying white power? But that wouldn't be satire, that would be irony. Which still leads to main point of the post...why? and what purpose did it serve in a discussion? Later, QD.


Didn't realize that he was black.
With ppl posting that kinda shit all the time, it's hard to decipher satire from straight up bullshit...

Again, I apologize for jumping your shit.....:goodjob:

[quickdodge®]

With ppl posting that kinda shit all the time,

I get sick of seeing that shit on here. I don't think of it as racist. But it's not funny. Just doesn't make sense. Later, QD.

[Glides]

race card?!?!? there was a noose hung by a tree in Lousiana...if thats not racist i don't know wtf is....

and fyi lousiana is probably the most racist state in this country by far.

Agreed, hanging a noose was racist. BUT, there is not a low on the books that says you cannot do it. So nobody broke the law when they did that. BUT when the 6 blacks beat up the white guy, well...there IS a law on the books against that. So it's no longer about race, it's about law. And the law says they did wrong. They are in the wrong, not the noose hangers in the eyes of the law.

Was the noose right, no way. But it wasn't a law breaker. So all the rallyer's are basically rallying behind criminals. And they are doing it because they are black. So THATS RACIST. You guys are condoning criminal activity because of a skin color. I don't know wnats more racist than that.

[quickdodge®]

Agreed, hanging a noose was racist. BUT, there is not a low on the books that says you cannot do it. So nobody broke the law when they did that. BUT when the 6 blacks beat up the white guy, well...there IS a law on the books against that. So it's no longer about race, it's about law. And the law says they did wrong. They are in the wrong, not the noose hangers in the eyes of the law.

Was the noose right, no way. But it wasn't a law breaker. So all the rallyer's are basically rallying behind criminals. And they are doing it because they are black. So THATS RACIST. You guys are condoning criminal activity because of a skin color. I don't know wnats more racist than that.

What a point! I had already seen that(as I said, I've been following this), but I didn't really want to get into this topic in the WL. Later, QD.

[BobbyFresco]

Agreed, hanging a noose was racist. BUT, there is not a low on the books that says you cannot do it. So nobody broke the law when they did that. BUT when the 6 blacks beat up the white guy, well...there IS a law on the books against that. So it's no longer about race, it's about law. And the law says they did wrong. They are in the wrong, not the noose hangers in the eyes of the law.

Was the noose right, no way. But it wasn't a law breaker. So all the rallyer's are basically rallying behind criminals. And they are doing it because they are black. So THATS RACIST. You guys are condoning criminal activity because of a skin color. I don't know wnats more racist than that.


I'm sure that the hanging of the noose constitutes some form of civil rights violation...
Not that I agree that it should make two fucks, I just think it might be.....

and I don't think the overall argument is about skirting punishment....
It's about the severity of the punishment.

[Glides]

I'm sure that the hanging of the noose constitutes some form of civil rights violation...
Not that I agree that it should make two fucks, I just think it might be.....

and I don't think the overall argument is about skirting punishment....
It's about the severity of the punishment.

The punishement is battery. It was reduced from attempted murder. How much lighter can you get than battery? Attempted pushing?

No, the whole thing is about race. Al Sharpton said "This the the 21 centurys civil rights movement" He also said "They brought race into it when they hung the nooses". So Al Sharpton, in all his bullshit theatrics is comparing a legitimate movement in which the country needed desperatly to a gang of thugs who beat up a student in a high school. And he is condoning criminal activity.

Al Sharpton is a retard and a tool, he always has been. He is the first person to stick his nose in anything where a black person is involved and completely blow it out of proportion to the point of lunacy.

[Dietcoke]

I'm not black, either. Haha, more of a brown color. Not afro-american one bit. The white power bit was supposed to mean the guy that got beat probably had it coming to him and just got caught up by himself. Ive seen it happen before. Do you think that if this happened in the ghetto that it would even make tv? Blacks beating up whites? Whites beating up blacks? Gangs beating up other gang members?

It's total crap.

[Dominikan521]

So black kids sit under a "white" tree.

Nooses are hung the next day by white kids.

Black kids are like wtf, RACIST.

(the principal doesn't do shit to the white kids thus ensuing that this act was perfectly fine)

Racial tensions grow between white kids and black kids.

Fight breaks out at lunch.

White kid gets knocked out and beaten.

Black kids are arrested.

White kid is partying the same day he was "brutally beaten near death".

(He sure ass hell wasn't brutally beaten near death if he was out partying the same day, fuck him and his lying ass. The victims here are the black kids getting tried as adaults for beating another kids ass.
(ATTEMPTED MURDER LOOOOOOOOOOOL)

First black kid gets a sentence of 15 years.

NOW FUCK THAT I DON'T NEED TO GO ON ANY FARTHER.

If anything those white kids were brought up with the wrong mindset by their ignorant parents. The idea of hanging nooses anywhere else but these backwood states is simply retarded. The DA and jury are all RACIST bastards who thought it'd be perfectly fine to throw black teens in jail for over a decade. Same goes for the white kids who thought it was their right to hang nooses because some black kids sat under "their" tree.


STUPID IGNORANT INBRED BACKWOOD RACIST UNJUST FUCK FACES

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STUPID IGNORANT INBRED BACKWOOD RACIST UNJUST FUCK FACES

Wow. You're what, all of 11-12 years old? Later, QD.

[Glides]

So black kids sit under a "white" tree.

Nooses are hung the next day by white kids.

Black kids are like wtf, RACIST.

(the principal doesn't do shit to the white kids thus ensuing that this act was perfectly fine)

Racial tensions grow between white kids and black kids.

Fight breaks out at lunch.

White kid gets knocked out and beaten.

Black kids are arrested.

White kid is partying the same day he was "brutally beaten near death".

(He sure ass hell wasn't brutally beaten near death if he was out partying the same day, fuck him and his lying ass. The victims here are the black kids getting tried as adaults for beating another kids ass.
(ATTEMPTED MURDER LOOOOOOOOOOOL)

First black kid gets a sentence of 15 years.

NOW FUCK THAT I DON'T NEED TO GO ON ANY FARTHER.

If anything those white kids were brought up with the wrong mindset by their ignorant parents. The idea of hanging nooses anywhere else but these backwood states is simply retarded. The DA and jury are all RACIST bastards who thought it'd be perfectly fine to throw black teens in jail for over a decade. Same goes for the white kids who thought it was their right to hang nooses because some black kids sat under "their" tree.




STUPID IGNORANT INBRED BACKWOOD RACIST UNJUST FUCK FACES



Hey smart guy. Find me a law on the books in Lousiana that says what the white kids did was wrong. You can't. Now find me a law that says you cant go around beating up people, I bet you find plenty.

The charges they face is Battery. Looks that up smart guy. Or are you above using your brain for more than cursing on the internet.

[Dominikan521]

That was to attract attention and stir the shit pot some more. ;)

[quickdodge®]

That was to attract attention and stir the shit pot some more. ;)

We know. It was just to show your true intellect and maturity level. Later, QD.

[Dominikan521]

Ok they face charges for battery as of now. Was it fine that the first kid was being charged for attempted murder? 15 years in prison for a school fight? Now that the cameras are on and ears are plenty open is that they dropped that charge.

I agree with justice but the original charge of attempted murder was way out of propertion.

If anything what I'm pissed about is that had this story not been nationalized these six kids could have ended up with the same attempted murder chargers. It goes to show that our justice system is at times unjust; in this case to the point of being absurd.

Now fuck you, that is all.

[XLR8NMR2]

So black kids sit under a "white" tree.

Nooses are hung the next day by white kids.

Black kids are like wtf, RACIST.

(the principal doesn't do shit to the white kids thus ensuing that this act was perfectly fine)

Racial tensions grow between white kids and black kids.

Fight breaks out at lunch.

White kid gets knocked out and beaten.

Black kids are arrested.

White kid is partying the same day he was "brutally beaten near death".

(He sure ass hell wasn't brutally beaten near death if he was out partying the same day, fuck him and his lying ass. The victims here are the black kids getting tried as adaults for beating another kids ass.
(ATTEMPTED MURDER LOOOOOOOOOOOL)

First black kid gets a sentence of 15 years.

NOW FUCK THAT I DON'T NEED TO GO ON ANY FARTHER.

If anything those white kids were brought up with the wrong mindset by their ignorant parents. The idea of hanging nooses anywhere else but these backwood states is simply retarded. The DA and jury are all RACIST bastards who thought it'd be perfectly fine to throw black teens in jail for over a decade. Same goes for the white kids who thought it was their right to hang nooses because some black kids sat under "their" tree.


STUPID IGNORANT INBRED BACKWOOD RACIST UNJUST FUCK FACES



AGREED:goodjob:

The law and justice system in america is all fucked up. If it weren't fucked up then we would have equality and justification in all purposes no matter what the case is. But the law system in america has and always will be fucked up because of color boundries.....

I will give you some reasons just why the justice system is fucked up....

a) There are racist cops
b) there are racist judges
c) there are racist jurors
d) there has never been another color besides white for presidency in america.
e) This country is played by majority and minority votes and is viewd on that whites being the majority and blacks,hispanics,and others all in the minority section


America is a fucked up place.... Even though i love this country untill death there has to be some changes made in the legal system and the way police sterotype and mistreat people.

there is a reason the whole world wants us all dead......IGNORANCE

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the way(SOME)police sterotype and mistreat people.

Later, QD.

[Ran]

The idea of hanging nooses anywhere else but these backwood states is simply retarded.Did you miss the Saddam execution? Not a very positive example, but one that involved a hanging none-the-less.

I fully agree with Glides on the subject. It's about what is and what isn't against the law. The white kids were offensive, sure, but they didn't break the law. The black kids who committed the assault did break the law.

[XLR8NMR2]

Later, QD.

your right for that...it was a broad generalization i made.....BUT

Just last week in miami dade a police officer was shot to death in a routine traffic stop......Alot of people were outraged but when i go to miami alot of people were saying "the officer deserved it just like most of them do"

everyone is working for a paycheck

there still good cops and bad cops out there and i know this first hand dealing with my 20+ run in's with the police ever since i was 8 years old.

Cops are humans with real life issues too, sometimes police officers don't "leave there problems at the door" and tend to take there anger and agression out in the jobs they do on a daily basis...you can usually tell the good cops from bad cops but at the end of the day they are just people too that bleed the same blood and drink the same water....But with the badge on they become this all powerful enity called the "THE LAW"

FUCK THE LAW.

[man]

For anyone that says they shouldn't get in this much trouble over a fight - HOW IS 6 AGAINST 1 A FIGHT??? I don't care what color you are, 6-1 makes those 6 straight up bitches. Or was he supposed to use his "white power" to hold the black man down?

[Dominikan521]

Did you miss the Saddam execution? Not a very positive example, but one that involved a hanging none-the-less.

I fully agree with Glides on the subject. It's about what is and what isn't against the law. The white kids were offensive, sure, but they didn't break the law. The black kids who committed the assault did break the law.

Have you not heard of the horrific crimes commited by whites against blacks which involved the use of a noose? It was called lynching.

To bring back the noose, even as a gesture indicating that the tree was reserved for whites is wrong. It may not be illegal to hang a noose but what if some black kids went ahead and demonstrated the same kind of gesture by any other means? It'd surely be called a threat and there'd be punishment for that.

What message were these white kids trying to convey? Why didn't the school take action against what can be viewed as a threat?

At the end of the day the black kids did commit a crime but their punishment was UNJUST. Those five other black boys haven't been charged yet but those demonstrators are there protesting to make sure charging those boys with an exxagertaed sentence doesn't happen.

They weren't there the first time around and look at what happened. If anybody was charged with 15 years they'd call for FAIR justice as well.

end of story.

[quickdodge®]

For anyone that says they shouldn't get in this much trouble over a fight - HOW IS 6 AGAINST 1 A FIGHT??? I don't care what color you are, 6-1 makes those 6 straight up bitches. Or was he supposed to use his "white power" to hold the black man down?

I love you for your sig. Later, QD.

[KPowerEP3]

Agreed, hanging a noose was racist. BUT, there is not a low on the books that says you cannot do it. So nobody broke the law when they did that. BUT when the 6 blacks beat up the white guy, well...there IS a law on the books against that. So it's no longer about race, it's about law. And the law says they did wrong. They are in the wrong, not the noose hangers in the eyes of the law.

Was the noose right, no way. But it wasn't a law breaker. So all the rallyer's are basically rallying behind criminals. And they are doing it because they are black. So THATS RACIST. You guys are condoning criminal activity because of a skin color. I don't know wnats more racist than that.

I disagree with this totally. In the context, if the black kids had pursued this through the proper channels, in all reality, the white kid would have probably had terroristic threats charges brought against him. Something I'm not particularly proud to admit is that in the early-mid '90s my brother was fairly stong in the local neo-nazi skinhead movement, he appeared on Montel Williams a few times on the 'racist' shows, and then later on a 'converted racists' episode. Anyways, back OT, one night, he and some buddies were riding around harassing people, during this he shot a black woman a bird, and yelled at her calling her a ni**er, she called in the tag number and he ended up doing 2 years in state prison. The point is: in all honesty, I feel both parties are at fault. The white kids for being racist morons, and the black kids, even though the punishment didn't fit the crime, they could have gone about it the proper way and avoided the situation altogether.

[quickdodge®]

Have you not heard of the horrific crimes commited by whites against blacks which involved the use of a noose? It was called lynching.

To bring back the noose, even as a gesture indicating that the tree was reserved for whites is wrong. It may not be illegal to hang a noose but what if some black kids went ahead and demonstrated the same kind of gesture by any other means? It'd surely be called a threat and there'd be punishment for that.

What message were these white kids trying to convey? Why didn't the school take action against what can be viewed as a threat?

At the end of the day the black kids did commit a crime but their punishment was UNJUST. Those five other black boys haven't been charged yet but those demonstrators are there protesting to make sure charging those boys with an exxagertaed sentence doesn't happen.

They weren't there the first time around and look at what happened. If anybody was charged with 15 years they'd call for FAIR justice as well.

end of story.

Shut the fuck up. What are you babbling about? Alter Egos aren't the cool thing anymore, BTW. Later, QD.

[man]

I love you for your sig. Later, QD.

:goodjob: Thanks

[Dominikan521]

Shut the fuck up. What are you babbling about? Alter Egos aren't the cool thing anymore, BTW. Later, QD.

What are YOU talking about? Did I miss something or are you the DA prosecuting these boys?

[Doppelgänger]

The 6 'hoods are guilty, fuck rallying for them how they shouldn't be punished. Fuck that.

So why the fuck is it that a white sports announcer says 'nappy headed hoes' and DOES NOT mention one thing about race or color, yet 6 black fucks jump one white kid and magically it's not racist?? Fuck that.

Whoopdee fucking doo.... someone hung a noose... only racist people see that as 'racism'.

[quickdodge®]

What are YOU talking about? Did I miss something or are you the DA prosecuting these boys?

ZThis topic is about the goings on in LA. This isn't a goddamn history lesson on lynchings. Stick to the goddamn topic at hand and don't try to show off your "smarts." No one is going to pat you on your fucking back and tell you how smart you are. Or aren't. Later, QD.

[XLR8NMR2]

I think Dominkikian is winning the debate so far......

on a side note...are you from domincan republic??!?! if so i am from haiti....wasup brother!

[Dominikan521]

The 6 'hoods are guilty, fuck rallying for them how they shouldn't be punished. Fuck that.

So why the fuck is it that a white sports announcer says 'nappy headed hoes' and DOES NOT mention one thing about race or color, yet 6 black fucks jump one white kid and magically it's not racist?? Fuck that.

Whoopdee fucking doo.... someone hung a noose... only racist people see that as 'racism'.

YOU'RE FUCKING STUPID.

[man]

I think Dominkikian is winning the debate so far......

:lmfao:

Good joke. Tell more.

[Glides]

AGREED:goodjob:

The law and justice system in america is all fucked up. If it weren't fucked up then we would have equality and justification in all purposes no matter what the case is. But the law system in america has and always will be fucked up because of color boundries.....

I will give you some reasons just why the justice system is fucked up....

a) There are racist cops
b) there are racist judges
c) there are racist jurors
d) there has never been another color besides white for presidency in america.
e) This country is played by majority and minority votes and is viewd on that whites being the majority and blacks,hispanics,and others all in the minority section


America is a fucked up place.... Even though i love this country untill death there has to be some changes made in the legal system and the way police sterotype and mistreat people.

there is a reason the whole world wants us all dead......IGNORANCE

Lets break down your ignorance for all to see.

There are racist cops, Black AND White.
There are Racist Judges, Black AND White
There are Racist juror, Black AND White
There has never been another color for presidency because you motherfuckers DON'T VOTE ONE IN. Excersise your rights as an American citizen and fucking vote.

You had your chance when Colin Powell was talking about running. It was all cake and jam until he wanted to abolish welfare, then the black population turned on him like wolves. There went Colin Powell.

Blacks, Mexican, Hispanics and all that ARE Minorities because there were LESS OF YOU you moron. Not because you are less of a person. Holy shit, you have got to be the most Racist person in this whole thread. Listen to yourself talk. There are plenty of Black people now to vote Obama in. But once again, he wants welfare reform, so what are his chances. I personally think that Obama would be a welcome sight in the White House.

I liked this one the best. "The whole world wants us dead" Are you honestly believing all of the shit you are spewing from your fingertips? I certainly don't want you dead. 99% of the white population doesn't give a rats ass what color you are if you are working for them. They want you to work. Black hands do the same job white hands do, they work the same way. The only people that ever bitch in the work place about color and race are BLACK PEOPLE!. Go and check at your office or parts store or unemployement line if you don't believe me. ANY time something happens that some one doesn't see as fair, Race gets pulled into it.

Now, go grow up some before you come back to the big talkers table. It's obvious that you cannot look at the laws of the great country that you say you love so much, you are blinded by color. You, the one who says racism is all over the place is helping spread it around like butter on toast.

My friend, YOU are the ignorant one.

[Dominikan521]

I think Dominkikian is winning the debate so far......

on a side note...are you from domincan republic??!?! if so i am from haiti....wasup brother!
Yes I'm Dominican and I find it ironic you'd call me your brother.

It's rare to see any kind of unity or warmth between Haitians and Dominicans.

Good to know it can work out. :goodjob:

[quickdodge®]

Good to know it can work out. :goodjob:

It can all be worked out. You just have to want it. The problem is...nobody does. Later, QD.

[Dominikan521]

ZThis topic is about the goings on in LA. This isn't a goddamn history lesson on lynchings. Stick to the goddamn topic at hand and don't try to show off your "smarts." No one is going to pat you on your fucking back and tell you how smart you are. Or aren't. Later, QD.

Who the fuck are you to tell me what or what not to do, especially on a forum.:???:

Chill the fuck out and debate, nothing like some fag killing the topic by calling somebody out on their facts.

[man]

It can all be worked out. You just have to want it. The problem is...nobody does. Later, QD.

Sad that the Haitians and Dominicans can work it out but Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson still hate white people.

[Glides]

I think Dominkikian is winning the debate so far......

on a side note...are you from domincan republic??!?! if so i am from haiti....wasup brother!

Why? Because he's black? RACIST!!! :yes:

[Ran]

There are racist cops, Black AND White.
There are Racist Judges, Black AND White
There are Racist juror, Black AND White
There has never been another color for presidency because you motherfuckers DON'T VOTE ONE IN. Excersise your rights as an American citizen and fucking vote.

You had your chance when Colin Powell was talking about running. It was all cake and jam until he wanted to abolish welfare, then the black population turned on him like wolves. There went Colin Powell.

Blacks, Mexican, Hispanics and all that ARE Minorities because there were LESS OF YOU you moron. Not because you are less of a person. Holy shit, you have got to be the most Racist person in this whole thread. Listen to yourself talk. There are plenty of Black people now to vote Obama in. But once again, he wants welfare reform, so what are his chances. I personally think that Obama would be a welcome sight in the White House.

I liked this one the best. "The whole world wants us dead" Are you honestly believing all of the shit you are spewing from your fingertips? I certainly don't want you dead. 99% of the white population doesn't give a rats ass what color you are if you are working for them. They want you to work. Black hands do the same job white hands do, they work the same way. The only people that ever bitch in the work place about color and race are BLACK PEOPLE!. Go and check at your office or parts store or unemployement line if you don't believe me. ANY time something happens that some one doesn't see as fair, Race gets pulled into it.+whatevermyrepsareworth

[quickdodge®]

Who the fuck are you to tell me what or what not to do, especially on a forum.:???:

Chill the fuck out and debate, nothing like some fag killing the topic by calling somebody out on their facts.

You know who I am, dumbass. You're the one that made the new screen name to make a worthless "1st" post in this thread. Fucking idiot. Later, QD.

[Glides]

Chill the fuck out and debate, nothing like some fag killing the topic by calling somebody out on their facts.

Interesting, because debates are all about calling someone out on their facts. It's about putting your belief out there, backing it up with facts and then attempting to make the other debater see your point. I'm not sure what debate schools they have where you come from but it sounds like you went to the same one as PhatboyMR2 went too.

[Dominikan521]

You know who I am, dumbass. You're the one that made the new screen name to make a worthless "1st" post in this thread. Fucking idiot. Later, QD.

See that's the thing. I know who you are but you're nobody to tell anybody else what or what not to do. What I choose to do with my spare time such as joining a public forum is my fucking decision. If I so choose to post in any section of this forum I will do so.

I don't think I'm the fucking idiot here, try some analytical thinking.

[Doppelgänger]

YOU'RE FUCKING STUPID.

O rly? How so, you ignorant fuck?

[Dominikan521]

Interesting, because debates are all about calling someone out on their facts. It's about putting your belief out there, backing it up with facts and then attempting to make the other debater see your point. I'm not sure what debate schools they have where you come from but it sounds like you went to the same one as PhatboyMR2 went too.

The poster QD called me out on a fact that's true. It's true because it's part of out history and it fucking happened, how's he going to call me out on that. He's was ensuing that I shouldn't post something relevant about my debate because I don't need to let anybody know that I'm in his words "smart".

Well I'm not having that and he gets a great big FUCK YOU from me. :idb:

[Glides]

I disagree with this totally. In the context, if the black kids had pursued this through the proper channels, in all reality, the white kid would have probably had terroristic threats charges brought against him. Something I'm not particularly proud to admit is that in the early-mid '90s my brother was fairly stong in the local neo-nazi skinhead movement, he appeared on Montel Williams a few times on the 'racist' shows, and then later on a 'converted racists' episode. Anyways, back OT, one night, he and some buddies were riding around harassing people, during this he shot a black woman a bird, and yelled at her calling her a ni**er, she called in the tag number and he ended up doing 2 years in state prison. The point is: in all honesty, I feel both parties are at fault. The white kids for being racist morons, and the black kids, even though the punishment didn't fit the crime, they could have gone about it the proper way and avoided the situation altogether.

Your brother is now hunted by the Nazis I believe if it's the same guy i'm thinking of. On a documentary about skins too I think. Your brother is not a bad guy at all iof it's who i'm thinking of, he just fell into the wrong crowd of idiots.

It all boils down to laws. If they did go through the proper channels, I bet terroristic threats could have been brought against them. But instead, the black kids went vigilante and took the law into their own hands. 6 people on one IS attempted murder. I'm sorry to tell anyone here. That's not a fight at that point, it's a massacre.

Spike Lee said it best "Do the right thing" They didn't, now they must pay the price, black or white.

[quickdodge®]

I don't think I'm the fucking idiot here, try some analytical thinking.

Why use my brain to process your gibberish when my eyes spotted it a mile away? Why didn't you spout your shit with your real screen name? Why hide behind this one? And yes. All ignorant people are idiots. Except Mark. Later, QD.

[Dominikan521]

O rly? How so, you ignorant fuck?
Re-read your first post in this thread. If you still don't know why I said you're stupid then again :goodjob:


YOU'RE FUCKING STUPID

[quickdodge®]

The poster QD called me out on a fact that's true. It's true because it's part of out history and it fucking happened, how's he going to call me out on that. He's was ensuing that I shouldn't post something relevant about my debate because I don't need to let anybody know that I'm in his words "smart".

Well I'm not having that and he gets a great big FUCK YOU from me. :idb:

I know what the fuck your history is. I've learned first hand all about it. You think because I'm white I haven't seen anything? Fuck you again for your ignorance. You're just as moronic as the next racist. Later, QD.

[quickdodge®]

Re-read your first post in this thread. If you still don't know why I said you're stupid then again :goodjob:


YOU'RE FUCKING STUPID

Practice what you preach, dumbass. Seriously go and do exactly what you just told that dude. Later, QD.

[JITB]

you guys are not even talkin about jena 6 anymore... this is something different.

the point of the march and shit down there was to bring to light the injustice that goes on down there towards blacks. its been goin on for years, they have hundreds of cases out of jena that shows blatant racism. The last incident just was so ridiculious it got attention. And the school situation goes further back than just the tree incident, it was long history of unfairness towards the black kids at that school, and things goinback and forth between the white kids and black kids. noones debating the fact that they should be punished...But 22 years for a school fight? I bet everyone her can rememebr a fight in high school, or even a fight where soemone got jumped in high school it happens everyday.. but kids dont do time for that shit..

[Dominikan521]

Why use my brain to process your gibberish when my eyes spotted it a mile away? Why didn't you spout your shit with your real screen name? Why hide behind this one? And yes. All ignorant people are idiots. Except Mark. Later, QD.

Since facts are gibberish nowadays.

The rest of your questions don't merit my response you turd.

[Glides]

The poster QD called me out on a fact that's true. It's true because it's part of out history and it fucking happened, how's he going to call me out on that. He's was ensuing that I shouldn't post something relevant about my debate because I don't need to let anybody know that I'm in his words "smart".

Well I'm not having that and he gets a great big FUCK YOU from me. :idb:

Let me help you understand this better. If you called my momma a whore, and I brought 6 friends and kicked the dogshit out of you. I'd go to jail.

Same exact thing here. Anytime someone resorts to violence to solve a dispute, that person goes to jail. It doesn't matter what started it. A slanderous name, a noose in a tree or any verbal name calling.

6 against 1 is attempted murder. It's not a fight. 1 vs 1 is a fight. Not 6 vs 1. So they got charged, then it got reduced out of pressure. They are getting Battery now, what else would you like to happen?

[Glides]

you guys are not even talkin about jena 6 anymore... this is something different.

the point of the march and shit down there was to bring to light the injustice that goes on down there towards blacks. its been goin on for years, they have hundreds of cases out of jena that shows blatant racism. The last incident just was so ridiculious it got attention. And the school situation goes further back than just the tree incident, it was long history of unfairness towards the black kids at that school, and things goinback and forth between the white kids and black kids. noones debating the fact that they should be punished...But 22 years for a school fight? I bet everyone her can rememebr a fight in high school, or even a fight where soemone got jumped in high school it happens everyday.. but kids dont do time for that shit..

They do if it's 6 on 1. Thats not a fight.

[quickdodge®]

Since facts are gibberish nowadays.

The rest of your questions don't merit my response you turd.

Exactly what I thought. Keep hiding. It's ok. That's what all the scared people do. You know. Later, QD.

[SL65AMG]

thats all it is, its a big race rally.. BLAH BLAH BLAH

im so sick and tired of ANYONE pulling the race card, but has anyone noticed, if a white person says anything, its racist, if a black person says somethign, its "freedom of speech" its SOOOOOO unbelievable.

i am friends with black, white, red, purple, brown and grey, but it irks me when that happens!


wow.... you have hit it right on the money.

[quickdodge®]

you guys are not even talkin about jena 6 anymore... this is something different.

Yeah. I PM-ed when this thread was first posted to have it moved to the NEWS section to weed out some of the infidels. This is why. Later, QD.

[Dominikan521]

I know what the fuck your history is. I've learned first hand all about it. You think because I'm white I haven't seen anything? Fuck you again for your ignorance. You're just as moronic as the next racist. Later, QD.

Good to know you know your history then. Now it's not ok for you to assume that I think you're white. Even if I asked if you were the DA prosecuting the black boys ;)

I don't know what you've seen or been through nor your race and I could care less. The thing is when your remarks interfere with the debate at hand you're fucking up. Go back and read your post where you quote me and my "smartness".

We're going nowhere talking shit to each other on a forum anyways. Waste your time, not mine.

[quickdodge®]

The thing is when your remarks interfere with the debate at hand you're fucking up.

Go back and read your awesome introduction into this "debate." If you hadn't come in with that crap, we might not be on this keel. But you had to be the fuck up. As usual.

Nice to see you side-stepping the "hidden" agenda. Remind me of a Klansman. Hiding so no one knows your true feelings. Later, QD.

[BKgen®]

http://brainsandcornbread.ytmnd.com/

[BobbyFresco]

Why use my brain to process your gibberish when my eyes spotted it a mile away? Why didn't you spout your shit with your real screen name? Why hide behind this one? And yes. All ignorant people are idiots. Except Mark. Later, QD.


Who is the owner of the alias?

[man]

All white people are RACISTSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

lol, my mom is German/English and my dad is Cuban. Guess I'm half racist for being half-white.

[quickdodge®]

Who is the owner of the alias?

I'm checking into it now. It's easy to see who is real and who is using a fake name. This guy's only posts have been in this topic. If that's not a recipe for Alias, then there's no such thing. I have a couple of people in mind, but I'll hold calls until I get the end result. And I'm pretty sure it's someone I'm cool with. Later, QD.

[Doppelgänger]

Re-read your first post in this thread. If you still don't know why I said you're stupid then again :goodjob:


YOU'RE FUCKING STUPID

Listen here DominiKUNT, you wonder why people always point a finger at a white person and crys "RACISM!!" ??? It fuck like these stupid 6 fucks that make the rest of civilization make assumptions. White kids had whatever problem with black, they made a STATEMENT by their own freedom, but the black kids COULD NOT just do something RIGHT to make things change. They were their own demise in the situation and should be punished accordingly. So fucking what if the principal didnt do shit, then move on to the next person for a solution, not take it into your own fucking hands. I swear, some people (im not saying what race) seem to cry 'racisim' at anything because they are worthless fucks (people crying and bitching). Vick case racist? Bullshit. Imus case racist? Even more bullshit. This case? Actual racism.

[Dominikan521]

Go back and read your awesome introduction into this "debate." If you hadn't come in with that crap, we might not be on this keel. But you had to be the fuck up. As usual.

Nice to see you side-stepping the "hidden" agenda. Remind me of a Klansman. Hiding so no one knows your true feelings. Later, QD.

I don't need to read my introduction again. I wrote the goddamn thing I know what I said and quite possibly what riled you up. If you're so hot and sour about it so be it, just don't let my introduction affect your opinion on what I have to say or who I am. Since of course your labeling me as a "fuck up" which I could care less about since you don't know who the fuck I am to label me.

My identity doesn't need to be revealed, who I am shouldn't change the value of what I have to say. Unfortunatly when everybody's debating a persons background tends to make their arguement null. Not that I'm a member or former member of this forum.

Even if I was to tell you who I am what* do you have to gain from it?

[Glides]

I don't need to read my introduction again. I wrote the goddamn thing I know what I said and quite possibly what riled you up. If you're so hot and sour about it so be it, just don't let my introduction affect your opinion on what I have to say or who I am. Since of course your labeling me as a "fuck up" which I could care less about since you don't know who the fuck I am to label me.

My identity doesn't need to be revealed, who I am shouldn't change the value of what I have to say. Unfortunatly when everybody's debating a persons background tends to make their arguement null. Not that I'm a member or former member of this forum.

Even if I was to tell you who I am who do you have to gain from it?

Using a persons past or identity to trump their point on an arguement is called a Falacicious arguement. You are correct, your past or identity should not make a difference on the outcome or stance of your arguement. But your statements will. You inability to take color out of the equation and look at it from a logical, law abiding citizen standpoint is what makes your arguement shallow. Not who you are.

[JITB]

They do if it's 6 on 1. Thats not a fight.

Thats no fight , but the point is the way its been handled has been lopsided..

1. they had the kid's dad who was beat up on the jury
2. he was tried as an adult when he wasnt supposed to
3. And this situation has been goin on for so long they should almost blame the school for letting it get to this level.

they had so many fights and things happen they ahd to close the school? what kind of shit was that? and the police were neve rnotified of alot of the things tha happen, until now. Incidents being left out of reports by the principal. Me personally take the whoel situation as a wake up call on both sides white and black its 2007 and stuff like this is still goin on. the marchisnt a all balck kill whitey race card ploy, Its a pay attention to whats goin on, and its time to change it march.

[BobbyFresco]

Listen here DominiKUNT, you wonder why people always point a finger at a white person and crys "RACISM!!" ??? It fuck like these stupid 6 fucks that make the rest of civilization make assumptions. White kids had whatever problem with black, they made a STATEMENT by their own freedom, but the black kids COULD NOT just do something RIGHT to make things change. They were their own demise in the situation and should be punished accordingly. So fucking what if the principal didnt do shit, then move on to the next person for a solution, not take it into your own fucking hands. I swear, some people (im not saying what race) seem to cry 'racisim' at anything because they are worthless fucks (people crying and bitching). Vick case racist? Bullshit. Imus case racist? Even more bullshit. This case? Actual racism.



and the sad part is that every time there's a situation that is labeled as racism that really isn't , it takes away from the significance of situations that truly are racially motivated......

But as I've said before, blacks are NOT the only ones to cry foul when it comes to racism or prejudice...

Jews do it just as much, it's just not as publicized.

[quickdodge®]

I don't need to read my introduction again. I wrote the goddamn thing I know what I said and quite possibly what riled you up.

Riled up? This is the net. Why would I get riled up?


since you don't know who the fuck I am to label me.

Until your ID is revealed to me, I will label you as I see it. It's nice to have the upperhand, isn't it? You know me and since you've chosen to stay hidden under your white sheet, I can't call you because I don't know you.


My identity doesn't need to be revealed, who I am shouldn't change the value of what I have to say.

If it didn't change the value, then why make the fake name? Why not post under your normal, everyday name? Later, QD.

[Doppelgänger]

thats all it is, its a big race rally.. BLAH BLAH BLAH

im so sick and tired of ANYONE pulling the race card, but has anyone noticed, if a white person says anything, its racist, if a black person says somethign, its "freedom of speech" its SOOOOOO unbelievable.

i am friends with black, white, red, purple, brown and grey, but it irks me when that happens!
QFT.... again.


and +reps

[man]

Unfortunatly when everybody's debating a persons background tends to make their arguement null.

Kinda like black people arguing about racism and slavery?

[Leadfoot_mf]

fuck em all kill the whites involved and the blacks who cares get this stupid shit off the news i don't give a fuck.

[Doppelgänger]

and the sad part is that every time there's a situation that is labeled as racism that really isn't , it takes away from the significance of situations that truly are racially motivated......

But as I've said before, blacks are NOT the only ones to cry foul when it comes to racism or prejudice...

Jews do it just as much, it's just not as publicized.


+reps for you too.

It really does suck that people will pull a race card on a issue that is clearly not just to make the media exposure larger. So when the issue really IS an issue, its just shoveled into all the 'other' issues and isn't looked they way it should be.

[BobbyFresco]

Kinda like black people arguing about racism and slavery?


LMAO..

Cubans SWEAR that they're white. My god.:lmfao:

I bet you voted for Bush too, didn't you?

[Dominikan521]

Riled up? This is the net. Why would I get riled up?



Until your ID is revealed to me, I will label you as I see it. It's nice to have the upperhand, isn't it? You know me and since you've chosen to stay hidden under your white sheet, I can't call you because I don't know you.



If it didn't change the value, then why make the fake name? Why not post under your normal, everyday name? Later, QD.

What ever you want to call your reaction to my introduction is up to you.

I reserve the right to keep my identity revealed and I say so as a newcomer to this forum, not as a former or present user.

Your take on what I have to say is just that, yours. The way you've responded to my posts indicates that you've taken little to no time thinking about what I've said. You're skimming the surface and finding what you don't like about it. Get over it and maybe you'd agree on some of my points.

[BobbyFresco]

+reps for you too.

It really does suck that people will pull a race card on a issue that is clearly not just to make the media exposure larger. So when the issue really IS an issue, its just shoveled into all the 'other' issues and isn't looked they way it should be.


Exactly................:goodjob:

[man]

LMAO..

Cubans SWEAR that they're white. My god.:lmfao:

I bet you voted for Bush too, didn't you?

I did when it was him/Kerry.

I've never heard any of my relatives ever relate themselves to white people.

[BobbyFresco]

I did when it was him/Kerry.

I've never heard any of my relatives ever relate themselves to white people.


Whatever. Another topic for another time...carry on...:goodjob:

[man]

Whatever. Another topic for another time...carry on...:goodjob:

:werd:

[quickdodge®]

What ever you want to call your reaction to my introduction is up to you.

Exactly. So don't make a judgment call on my reaction.


I reserve the right to keep my identity revealed and I say so as a newcomer to this forum, not as a former or present user.

The bolded speaks for itself. As for the rest, you're not a newcomer.


Your take on what I have to say is just that, yours. The way you've responded to my posts indicates that you've taken little to no time thinking about what I've said. You're skimming the surface and finding what you don't like about it. Get over it and maybe you'd agree on some of my points.

I don't need to be lectured on shit by someone who is ignorant and wants to stray away from topic by going on a history tour. You came in this thread with your idiot post and from there, you went downhill. Doesn't matter to me either. Later, QD.

[OneSlow5pt0]

.........................

[Dominikan521]

Exactly. So don't make a judgment call on my reaction.



The bolded speaks for itself. As for the rest, you're not a newcomer.



I don't need to be lectured on shit by someone who is ignorant and wants to stray away from topic by going on a history tour. You came in this thread with your idiot post and from there, you went downhill. Doesn't matter to me either. Later, QD.

Hello fuck face we're revisiting history here, nooses were hung from a tree just like in the old days.

If anything the past has taught us how to predict the outcome of present conditions.

Back in the day if they hung a noose, they hung a black man.

These kids fucked up by hanging that noose, that's what the KKK did and they are the epitimy of racism. Now shut the fuck up about my history lesson already.

You my friend are one hell of a semi-educated relatively defensive yet heavily offensive son of a bitch. Take your :idb: like a man and don't shrug off my "lecture".

[man]

Back in the day if they hung a noose, they hung a black man.

Actually, that is incorrect. The noose was used heavily starting in the 1600s in England. I'll bet money there were more white people hanged than blacks over the course of history.

[Dominikan521]

Actually, that is incorrect. The noose was used heavily starting in the 1600s in England. I'll bet money there were more white people hanged than blacks over the course of history.

We're talking about America here. A noose hung in America not England. Nor are we debating the amount of white or black people killed by hangings.

[man]

We're talking about America here. A noose hung in America not England. Nor are we debating the amount of white or black people killed by hangings.

"Back in the day if they hung a noose, they hung a black man."

I was just stating this this isn't true, not even in America, many sates used it as a form of capital punishment. I'm not saying the kid's gesture wasn't racist, just clarifying facts.

[JennB]

The article on CNN today about this makes me ill.

http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/law/09/20/jena.six/index.html


First off, yes, rasicm exists but because someone possibly insulted you based on your race does not give you the right to beat the living shit out of them. Assault is a crime. It usually only considered justified if it is in self defense. These white kids never laid a hand on the black kids. If you beat the crap out of someone, there is a good chance you'll get in trouble no matter if they are the same race as you or not. It's ridiculous to think that it is okay to physically harm someone because of a possibly offensive gesture.

People say and do things that offend me (and I'm sure just about everyone else) every single day. You have to learn to just move past it. You can't react in a violent manner to everything that bothers you. If you feel that someone should be punished for their actions, you should go to authorities and if that authority doesn't help, find another one.... but you do not take it upon yourself to severely injure another human being without being ready to take the consequences.

From the article


"If this can happen to them [the Jena 6] , it can happen to anyone," Scales said.

What? If they hadn't jumped the kid, nothing would have happened to them. Their punishment is nothing but a direct result of their CHOSEN actions.


"If this young man [Bell] was railroaded to do time as an adult, how many more people has that happened to?" she said.

Oh... so he's a minor so he should get away with it. He's old enough to know right from wrong yet he shouldn't be punished for this. Ooooo k.


"I hope that the D.A. will wake up and realize that he's doing the wrong thing, and to release these kids," she said. "It's not equal. The black people get the harsher extent of the law, whereas white people get a slap on the wrist per se. So it is not equal here."

They beat the shit out of a kid! The white kids hung a rope from a tree. There is a slight difference here. You want them locked up too? Well, assualt is a crime, when knot-tying or unneccessary tree decorating becomes a crime, they'll be arrested as well.


Sure, the white kids should not have done what they did but you know, kids do shit like that. I know when I was in high school, groups had certain areas around the outside lunch courtyard that were theirs. They sat there every day and that's how kids are. Kids fight over dumb shit. I'm sure there were kids in my school that would have said something offensive or acted like they wanted a confrontation if someone was in their "spot" one day. In this case, if it was a group of fat kids, they probably would have hung up some twinkies, it's likely they were just trying to rile up the other group and get them to stay away. Are they racist? Maybe... I don't know them but it still doesn't mean you can beat them up.

People need to start focusing on real racism and not stupid things done by stupid kids. People get annoyed and apathetic about it when every single thing is labelled as racist. It does nothing but hurt the real issue.

[Dominikan521]

The article on CNN today about this makes me ill.

http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/law/09/20/jena.six/index.html


First off, yes, rasicm exists but because someone possibly insulted you based on your race does not give you the right to beat the living shit out of them. Assault is a crime. It usually only considered justified if it is in self defense. These white kids never laid a hand on the black kids. If you beat the crap out of someone, there is a good chance you'll get in trouble no matter if they are the same race as you or not. It's ridiculous to think that it is okay to physically harm someone because of a possibly offensive gesture.

People say and do things that offend me (and I'm sure just about everyone else) every single day. You have to learn to just move past it. You can't react in a violent manner to everything that bothers you. If you feel that someone should be punished for their actions, you should go to authorities and if that authority doesn't help, find another one.... but you do not take it upon yourself to severely injure another human being without being ready to take the consequences.

From the article



What? If they hadn't jumped the kid, nothing would have happened to them. Their punishment is nothing but a direct result of their CHOSEN actions.



Oh... so he's a minor so he should get away with it. He's old enough to know right from wrong yet he shouldn't be punished for this. Ooooo k.



They beat the shit out of a kid! The white kids hung a rope from a tree. There is a slight difference here. You want them locked up too? Well, assualt is a crime, when knot-tying or unneccessary tree decorating becomes a crime, they'll be arrested as well.


Sure, the white kids should not have done what they did but you know, kids do shit like that. I know when I was in high school, groups had certain areas around the outside lunch courtyard that were theirs. They sat there every day and that's how kids are. Kids fight over dumb shit. I'm sure there were kids in my school that would have said something offensive or acted like they wanted a confrontation if someone was in their "spot" one day. In this case, if it was a group of fat kids, they probably would have hung up some twinkies, it's likely they were just trying to rile up the other group and get them to stay away. Are they racist? Maybe... I don't know them but it still doesn't mean you can beat them up.

People need to start focusing on real racism and not stupid things done by stupid kids. People get annoyed and apathetic about it when every single thing is labelled as racist. It does nothing but hurt the real issue.

The waking incident that caused this ordeal was racist, period. Comparing twinkies to nooses is ridiculous.

Kids in highschool fight over the stupidest shit and I don't condone fighting. The thing is when most kids fight in school they don't get pressed with ridiculous charges. There've been cases where kids in fights end up with comas, collapsed lungs, broken bones, etc.. yet the victim this time has injuries nowhere near to have merited murder charges for the agressors.

Are you people failing to see the vast unjustness these black kids faced? Now that the town's under light do the charges change. Please give me a reason other than racism as to why these kids were going to be charged with attempted murder.

[JennB]

I do not agree with you nor am I going to sit here and argue about it.


Oh... and it wasn't a comparison, it was just a silly example to make a point.

[Mike Lowrey]

To pull the race card is black people. The most racist people on Earth are white people. Later, QD.

Agreed on the first count. Have to disagree on the second one. I will site personal experience by saying I have seen many more blacks spouting racist comments then whites. For some reason when a black person makes a racial comment, people seem to look the other way or ignore it. When a white person makes a racial comment, it becomes the most important topic in america. When the fact of the matter is that you had two people making racial comment, which shows the ignorance of each of them.


and whites have always been the racist...this dates back to time and history......White people are always invading other lands and calling it "their own"

we would have no racism if everyone would stay where the fuck there from and not speak on racism as much.

So white people are the only racist people? :rolleyes: See the comment above.

[Doppelgänger]

What do the KKK, Al Sharpton and Jessie Jackson have in common?




They're ALL RACIST and should be wiped off the face of the Earth.



BTW, Dominikant, just because a noose is hung, DOES NOT mean somone is going to be hanged from it you idiot. As a matter of fact, i made a little noose out of some packing twine here at work.... does that mean im going to hang someone? lol

There is NO unjust going on there. What they did was clearly wrong, and they know it. The real racist people are saying the kids shouldnt be punished.

[JennB]

I would be so much more willing to listen to some people's opinions if they could type in anywhere near proper grammar.



Anyone who thinks that slavery or racism started with or has been only continued by white people needs to seriously do some reading about the 1000's of years that slavery has existed and the countless acts of genocide committed by just about every race on this planet.

[Mike Lowrey]

These stories are truely getting old and frustrating. A simple issue is turned into a national event.

Racist white kids = should be punished for a racial demonstration

Six Black kids = should be charged with assault and punished accordingly.

[Dominikan521]

Agreed on the first count. Have to disagree on the second one. I will site personal experience by saying I have seen many more blacks spouting racist comments then whites. For some reason when a black person makes a racial comment, people seem to look the other way or ignore it. When a white person makes a racial comment, it becomes the most important topic in america. When the fact of the matter is that you had two people making racial comment, which shows the ignorance of each of them.



So white people are the only racist people? :rolleyes: See the comment above.

Black people underwent slavery and racial discrimination. White people haven't been stripped of their liberty blatantly as have minorities over the years. When a black person says something racist it's whatever because they didn't start the goddamn racist frenzy. If you're white and labeled racist nowadays thank the actual racist white people from the 50's. Sucks for you but yes you are target because people of your color have fucked up in the past.

A black racist. Makes me giggle. :yes:

[SL65AMG]

this is fucking stupid.

the white kids fucked up to begin with but the black kids fucked up by beating him up.




hanging a noose from a tree is not illegal. maybe to al fucking sharpton or jesse jackson.




http://www.whileseated.org/photo/003244.shtml
In September 2006, a group of African American high school students in Jena, Louisiana, asked the school for permission to sit beneath a "whites only" shade tree. There was an unwritten rule that blacks couldn't sit beneath the tree. The school said they didn't care where students sat. the school CANNOT say that the black kids couldnt sit under the. tree they just saved their own ass. The next day, students arrived at school to see three nooses (in school colors) hanging from the tree. (Please note, the tree above is not the tree, but a tree at Jena High School.)

The boys who hung the nooses were suspended from school for a few days.sounds like a suitable punishment to me. after all hanging ropes from trees isnt illegal and im sure that theres no school rule relating to it..... The school administration chalked it up as a harmless prank, but Jena's black population didn't take it so lightly. Fights and unrest started breaking out at school. The District Attorney, Reed Walters, was called in to directly address black students at the school and told them all he could "end their life with a stroke of the pen."he probably should have addressed everyone.... but i guarantee you that it wasnt the white kids that kept this argument going...

Black students were assaulted at white parties.i dont know about yall but ive never seen a "whites Only" sign hanging from the door at a party.... A white man drew a loaded rifle on three black teens at a local convenience store. (They wrestled it from him and ran away.) Someone tried to burn down the schooland this someone is? i can take a guess..... , and on December 4th, a fight broke out that led to six black students being charged with attempted murder. To his word, the D.A. pushed for maximum charges, which carry sentences of eighty years. Four of the six are being tried as adults (ages 17 & 18) and two are juveniles.

Yesterday, I was in Jena for the first day of the trial for Mychal Bell, one of the Jena 6. The D.A., perhaps in response to public pressure, tried to get Bell to cop a plea. Bell refused, and today, jury selection began. After today, we'll know whether or not the case will be tried in front of an all-white jury. Jena's 85-percent white, and it remains to be seen whether or not the six can get a fair trial.



yeah it was racially motivated, but it should not have been taken this far.

[Dominikan521]

BTW, Dominikant
You've proven to be an idiot time and time again. Your sentences are hard to read and what you have to say doesn't make much sense.

I'm sure the white kids hung the noose because they were depressed and were going to hang themselves. That'd make a good arguement.

[SL65AMG]

Black people underwent slavery and racial discrimination. White people haven't been stripped of their liberty blatantly as have minorities over the years. When a black person says something racist it's whatever because they didn't start the goddamn racist frenzy. If you're white and labeled racist nowadays thank the actual racist white people from the 50's. Sucks for you but yes you are target because people of your color have fucked up in the past.

A black racist. Makes me giggle. :yes:


you dont think black people are racist? i should slap you :slap:

you, in todays society, are allowed to hide behind your own skin color.

[Dominikan521]

you dont think black people are racist? i should slap you :slap:

Black people have every motherfucking right to speak their fucking mind and by god do all blacks talk a lot of shit.

The thing is they don't go out and actively target white people nor provoke them to the extent that white racist people do.

[man]

Black people underwent slavery and racial discrimination. White people haven't been stripped of their liberty blatantly as have minorities over the years. When a black person says something racist it's whatever because they didn't start the goddamn racist frenzy. If you're white and labeled racist nowadays thank the actual racist white people from the 50's. Sucks for you but yes you are target because people of your color have fucked up in the past.

A black racist. Makes me giggle. :yes:

Wow, you have proven yourself ignorant. You think black people were the only slaves? You think that slavery was invented in the south? Get the fuck out until you learn some history.

[Mike Lowrey]

Black people underwent slavery and racial discrimination. White people haven't been stripped of their liberty blatantly as have minorities over the years.

:rolleyes: Go read a history book. Blacks are not the only people on earth to have this happen.


When a black person says something racist it's whatever because they didn't start the goddamn racist frenzy. If you're white and labeled racist nowadays thank the actual racist white people from the 50's.

LOL. The irony in this statement is crazy. Your statement is the epitomy of racist thinking.


A black racist. Makes me giggle. :yes:

You are kidding right? You can't be THAT stupid. :lmfao: A racist can be of any color, etc. Go pick up a dictionary sometime an read the definition of a racist.


Scratch that....here you go (from Websters Online Dictionary):

Racist:

1. A person with a prejudiced belief that one race is superior to others.


Racism is a phenomenon in which people mistreat, discriminate against, dislike, or even hate, have disdain for, or regard as inferior, other people based on what is regarded to be their race. Sometimes the term is used in a weaker sense to describe the belief that race is the primary determinant of human capacities, or that individuals should be treated differently based on their ascribed race. The word racism is almost always used pejoratively, with accusations of racism being common but with few describing themselves as racist.


Last time I checked, this did not state that it only applied when a white person commited it. :goodjob:

[Glides]

We're talking about America here. A noose hung in America not England. Nor are we debating the amount of white or black people killed by hangings.

You are correct, but we are debating the hanging of a noose. A noose that had no neck in it, much less a black one. It was a noose in a tree. While that is highly offensive, it isn't illegal. Beating someone up however, IS highly illegal.

No matter how you cut it, how you try to say that history has taught us what happens when a noose is put in a tree, no crime was committed until the black kids took it upon themselves to become judge, jury and almost executioner.

Barring all your other filler in this debate, those are the facts and the facts are that they are criminals. They are violent offenders of the law. And we punish violent offenders of the law. If we didn't, they would resort to violence anytime they felt it necessary to enforce their point. Whats to stop them from punching out an old lady who took their parking space or cut them off in line at the supermarket. "Oh hell no, that white lady cut us off, let's kick her ass cause she's a racist"

Still blinded by the color thing aren't you.

[Dominikan521]

Wow, you have proven yourself ignorant. You think black people were the only slaves? You think that slavery was invented in the south? Get the fuck out until you learn some history.

We're talking about black people hence I've posted about black slaves. I never said slavery was invented in the south.

You've underestimated and surely misunderstood me.

[SL65AMG]

Black people have every motherfucking right to speak their fucking mind and by god do all blacks talk a lot of shit.

The thing is they don't go out and actively target white people nor provoke them to the extent that white racist people do.

you are ignorant. actively target???


:lmfao:



:slap::slap: again


everyone has the right to speak their own mind..... i didnt say that anyone didnt.

[Mike Lowrey]

Black people have every motherfucking right to speak their fucking mind and by god do all blacks talk a lot of shit.

The thing is they don't go out and actively target white people nor provoke them to the extent that white racist people do.

You are not smart enough for this conversation. Please leave until you have actually read a book and understand its contents. :goodjob:

[Doppelgänger]

Black people underwent slavery and racial discrimination. White people haven't been stripped of their liberty blatantly as have minorities over the years. When a black person says something racist it's whatever because they didn't start the goddamn racist frenzy. If you're white and labeled racist nowadays thank the actual racist white people from the 50's. Sucks for you but yes you are target because people of your color have fucked up in the past.

A black racist. Makes me giggle. :yes:

You have got to be about the most ignorant and uneducated piece of shit to type here. Seriously. Pulling the OLD "black use to be slaves"????? My god, talk about a fucking crutch. I guess you never took history in school... that is, if you ever went to school. NEWSFLASH - White people were slaves in various civilizations FAR LONGER then blacks were ever used as slaves.

GTFO of this country you worthless waste of space.

[SL65AMG]

Originally Posted by Dominikan521
We're talking about America here. A noose hung in America not England. Nor are we debating the amount of white or black people killed by hangings.



i would be willing to bet that more whites have been hung from a noose than blacks..... id be willing to bet that number would be more than tenfold the number of blacks.



if you would have paid attention in history class you might know something.


you are just a fucking idiot


:slap: again

[Doppelgänger]

You've proven to be an idiot time and time again. Your sentences are hard to read and what you have to say doesn't make much sense.

I'm sure the white kids hung the noose because they were depressed and were going to hang themselves. That'd make a good arguement.LOL, it is my pleasure to type with proper grammar and spelling, something uneducated people like you can not understand.

[SL65AMG]

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAA ^^^^^^^ :lmfao: :lmfao: :lmfao: :lmfao: :lmfao: :lmfao: :lmfao: :lmfao: :lmfao: :lmfao: :lmfao:


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[Dominikan521]

:rolleyes: Go read a history book. Blacks are not the only people on earth to have this happen.



LOL. The irony in this statement is crazy. Your statement is the epitomy of racist thinking.



You are kidding right? You can't be THAT stupid. :lmfao: A racist can be of any color, etc. Go pick up a dictionary sometime an read the definition of a racist.


Scratch that....here you go (from Websters Online Dictionary):

Racist:

1. A person with a prejudiced belief that one race is superior to others.


Racism is a phenomenon in which people mistreat, discriminate against, dislike, or even hate, have disdain for, or regard as inferior, other people based on what is regarded to be their race. Sometimes the term is used in a weaker sense to describe the belief that race is the primary determinant of human capacities, or that individuals should be treated differently based on their ascribed race. The word racism is almost always used pejoratively, with accusations of racism being common but with few describing themselves as racist.


Last time I checked, this did not state that it only applied when a white person commited it. :goodjob:

Let me dumb it down for you. Black people in America were exposed to racism by white people.
Over time some differences were resolved and white people learned how to keep their mouths shut and ropes at home.

Racial undertones since then have existed in this country till this date.

Sure there are black racists and they express themselves at times but white people basically taught them and exposed them to this form thinking.

[man]

We're talking about black people hence I've posted about black slaves. I never said slavery was invented in the south.

You've underestimated and surely misunderstood me.

If a jew was beaten by an egyptian, would the whole jewish community come out and scream racism?

Hell no.

[tony]

All race issues aside what happened to being able to give or take a good ole fashioned ass woopin in school without the law being involved. Wussification of america..

Again if you throw race out of the equation, the situation escalated to the fight. I can't lie if you catch me on the wrong day and hang some nooses from a tree at my job I'm not exactly going sing coombaya with you.

Okay throw race back in it.. its good to know blacks can still come together peacefully for a cause that they believe in. Did the kid need to be beat down? No but I do think it is malicious to charge them with attempted murder especially when its provoked.

But its whatever.. this board is full of people who think all black people do is pull the race card and that we live in a perfect and just world.

[SL65AMG]

Let me dumb it down for you. Black people in America were exposed to racism by white people.
Over time some differences were resolved and white people learned how to keep their mouths shut and ropes at home.

Racial undertones since then have existed in this country till this date.

Sure there are black racists and they express themselves at times but white people basically taught them and exposed them to this form thinking.



I will retract every statement if you can tell me who actually brought the slaves to america in the first place.


can you do that brainchild?

or do you only learn that they try to teach you in todays "government" schools?

[man]

All race issues aside what happened to being able to give or take a good ole fashioned ass woopin in school without the law being involved. Wussification of america.

As I said before 6-1 is not a fight...

[Echonova]

Black people have every motherfucking right to speak their fucking mind and by god do all blacks talk a lot of shit.



The thing is they don't go out and actively target white people nor provoke them to the extent that white racist people do.~cut~ ~paste~The Aryan Brotherhood originated in San Quentin prison in 1967. Originally, this gang was established to provide protection for White individuals from Black and Hispanic groups, most specifically the Mexican Mafia.





So in a way, if blacks and hispanics weren't so mean in prison and would get teh buttsecks from their own race.. The world would be a better place. Problem is, there are some blacks who only want the white meat.

[Mike Lowrey]

Let me dumb it down for you. Black people in America were exposed to racism by white people.
Over time some differences were resolved and white people learned how to keep their mouths shut and ropes at home.

Yet again you prove my point. :rolleyes:


Racial undertones since then have existed in this country till this date.

:lmfao: :lmfao: Yeah, see your comment above. :lmfao: :lmfao:


Sure there are black racists and they express themselves at times but white people basically taught them and exposed them to this form thinking.

If I had though for one second that you had some intelligence, I would "dumb it down" for you.....but, alas you don't.

[OneSlow5pt0]

all i got to say is thier worse things in the world than being called a bad name..

[SL65AMG]

All race issues aside what happened to being able to give or take a good ole fashioned ass woopin in school without the law being involved. Wussification of america..

Again if you throw race out of the equation, the situation escalated to the fight. I can't lie if you catch me on the wrong day and hang some nooses from a tree at my job I'm not exactly going sing coombaya with you.

Okay throw race back in it.. its good to know blacks can still come together peacefully for a cause that they believe in. Did the kid need to be beat down? No but I do think it is malicious to charge them with attempted murder especially when its provoked.

But its whatever.. this board is full of people who think all black people do is pull the race card and that we live in a perfect and just world.


its only been what? a day? a few days? shit..... ill have to see it to believe it.


i dont have much faith because i have not been shown that it is deserved.


i give it a week.

[BobbyFresco]

If a jew was beaten by an egyptian, would the whole jewish community come out and scream racism?

Hell no.



LOL..I beg to differ on that...In fact, Jews scream foul play all the time.
and....Jews could not rightfully complain of racism because Judaism is a religion, not a race.

[SL65AMG]

DOMINIFUCK READ MY POST


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[Dominikan521]

I will retract every statement if you can tell me who actually brought the slaves to america in the first place.


can you do that brainchild?

or do you only learn that they try to teach you in todays "government" schools?

The guy that discovered America was the first to bring slaves. ;)

It's irrelevant to accuse the one of bringing the slaves in the first place since it was southerners who kept up with the practice.

[man]

LOL..I beg to differ on that...In fact, Jews scream foul play all the time.
and....Jews could not rightfully complain of racism because Judaism is a religion, not a race.

Shhh.... fine religiousism, lol

[Glides]

Black people underwent slavery and racial discrimination. White people haven't been stripped of their liberty blatantly as have minorities over the years. When a black person says something racist it's whatever because they didn't start the goddamn racist frenzy. If you're white and labeled racist nowadays thank the actual racist white people from the 50's. Sucks for you but yes you are target because people of your color have fucked up in the past.

A black racist. Makes me giggle. :yes:

Sure they have. Who do you think was oppressed before blacks came on the scene, the Purples? England is a prime example of this. From the 1300's to the 1700's there were mass tortures, beheadings and general stripping of liberties of other whites. They don't call the Tower of London the Bloody Tower for nothing. Kings have ALWAYS ruled with an iron thumb, if they didn't, they were killed and replaced. Slavery was common, (White Slavery), lootings and way worse things were an everyday occurance during those times. We can keep going into history lessons all day, i'm sure I can trump yours many times over.

But lets also face some facts here. YOU were not a slave, your parents were not slaves, maybe your grandparents might have been slaves. So for you or any other black person alive today to say they are a victim of slavery is pure bullshit. Next you'll be wanting reperations for you not being a slave.

I would be willing to bet you and any other person out there that if the black population stopped pinning it's woes on something that never happened to them, things would be much smoother in the race relations department of the world. Alot of black people try to do that....they are ridiculed by other blacks and told they are "Trying to be white". Interesting how ignorance can always find a way to flourish.

[Glides]

I will retract every statement if you can tell me who actually brought the slaves to america in the first place.


can you do that brainchild?

or do you only learn that they try to teach you in todays "government" schools?

And I will retract every other statement I made if Dominican can tell me who tried to take them home at the end of slavery and they didn't want to go.

Can the brainchild do that?

Or did he only learn what they tried to teach him in Hate Whitey class?

[Mike Lowrey]

The guy that discovered America was the first to bring slaves. ;)

It's irrelevant to accuse the one of bringing the slaves in the first place since it was southerners who kept up with the practice.

What? If it does not suit your mis-guided point, you don't want to talk about it?

Next.

[SL65AMG]

The guy that discovered America was the first to bring slaves. ;)

It's irrelevant to accuse the one of bringing the slaves in the first place since it was southerners who kept up with the practice.


....WELL WHO IS THE GUY WHO DISCOVERED AMERICA??? DO YOU EVEN KNOW THAT???? (well the man given credit for originally discovering america, although he was not actually the first)




nope you fucking idiot it was not. and this is relevant because whites are always given shit for bringing slaves to america and all that bullshit.


it was the Spanish and Portuguese.


i bet you didnt think you would actually LEARN something did you?

[tony]

its only been what? a day? a few days? shit..... ill have to see it to believe it.


i dont have much faith because i have not been shown that it is deserved.


i give it a week.

This issue has been addressed in black media for months now.. this did not just happen. People like Steve Harvey, Warren Valentine, Tom Joyner have been getting the word out on their shows and creating an awareness. There are other blacks in the media.. but people give so much attention to Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton that they're too jaded to realize it.

[Mike Lowrey]

But lets also face some facts here. YOU were not a slave, your parents were not slaves, maybe your grandparents might have been slaves. So for you or any other black person alive today to say they are a victim of slavery is pure bullshit. Next you'll be wanting reperations for you not being a slave.

I would be willing to bet you and any other person out there that if the black population stopped pinning it's woes on something that never happened to them, things would be much smoother in the race relations department of the world. Alot of black people try to do that....they are ridiculed by other blacks and told they are "Trying to be white". Interesting how ignorance can always find a way to flourish.

Agreed.

[BobbyFresco]

Sure they have. Who do you think was oppressed before blacks came on the scene, the Purples? England is a prime example of this. From the 1300's to the 1700's there were mass tortures, beheadings and general stripping of liberties of other whites. They don't call the Tower of London the Bloody Tower for nothing. Kings have ALWAYS ruled with an iron thumb, if they didn't, they were killed and replaced. Slavery was common, (White Slavery), lootings and way worse things were an everyday occurance during those times. We can keep going into history lessons all day, i'm sure I can trump yours many times over.

But lets also face some facts here. YOU were not a slave, your parents were not slaves, maybe your grandparents might have been slaves. So for you or any other black person alive today to say they are a victim of slavery is pure bullshit. Next you'll be wanting reperations for you not being a slave.

I would be willing to bet you and any other person out there that if the black population stopped pinning it's woes on something that never happened to them, things would be much smoother in the race relations department of the world. Alot of black people try to do that....they are ridiculed by other blacks and told they are "Trying to be white". Interesting how ignorance can always find a way to flourish.



So are you suggesting that the " slavery syndrome" as we'll call it, is solely responsible for racial issues in this country?

[OneSlow5pt0]

Agreed.

x2

and if people wouldnt go crazy over the word n i g g a it would lose its power,and noone would use it

[man]

So are you suggesting that the " slavery syndrome" as we'll call it, is solely responsible for racial issues in this country?

It's an excuse.

[Mike Lowrey]

....WELL WHO IS THE GUY WHO DISCOVERED AMERICA??? DO YOU EVEN KNOW THAT???? (well the man given credit for originally discovering america, although he was not actually the first)




nope you fucking idiot it was not. and this is relevant because whites are always given shit for bringing slaves to america and all that bullshit.


it was the Spanish and Portuguese.


i bet you didnt think you would actually LEARN something did you?

Ask him who helped capture the eventual slaves before they came to america.

[Dominikan521]

Since we've strayed from the topic many years and miles away let me re-cap my original argument/debate.

The sentence for the first of six black boys was unjust. I believe race had to do with the exaggerated sentencing. I believe the other five boys would have received similar sentences had the media and national attention not been garnered.

That is all, label me ignorant, stupid, a cunt or what ever the fuck you want but I know what's happening in Jena, Louisiana is wrong.

[Doppelgänger]

Dear Dominikan

http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l281/teamFBG/ecb4cc56.jpg

[man]

Ask him who helped capture the eventual slaves before they came to america.

Oh I know, I know, haha.

[OneSlow5pt0]

Oh I know, I know, haha.


:D

[BobbyFresco]

....WELL WHO IS THE GUY WHO DISCOVERED AMERICA??? DO YOU EVEN KNOW THAT???? (well the man given credit for originally discovering america, although he was not actually the first)




nope you fucking idiot it was not. and this is relevant because whites are always given shit for bringing slaves to america and all that bullshit.


it was the Spanish and Portuguese.


i bet you didnt think you would actually LEARN something did you?



to play devil's advocate though, wouldn't the original Spaniards and Portugese ppl have been of European descent, considering that those two countries are in fact in Europe?
Would that not then make them white?

[SL65AMG]

This issue has been addressed in black media for months now.. this did not just happen. People like Steve Harvey, Warren Valentine, Tom Joyner have been getting the word out on their shows and creating an awareness. There are other blacks in the media.. but people give so much attention to Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton that they're too jaded to realize it.

eh well.... i just heard about it today for the first time.... my bad

[Mike Lowrey]

It's an excuse.

QFT

[tony]

As I said before 6-1 is not a fight...

If you're big enough to say it.. be big enough to accept the ass beating with it. I'm sorry but I am not going to go into a group of hispanics spewing racial slurs.. know why? Cause I'll probably get killed.. dude should consider himself lucky and he's a punk ass if he feels he's the victim here. Retaliation is wrong BUT I bet he wont do it again now will he?

[man]

Since we've strayed from the topic many years and miles away let me re-cap my original argument/debate.

The sentence for the first of six black boys was unjust. I believe race had to do with the exaggerated sentencing. I believe the other five boys would have received similar sentences had the media and national attention not been garnered.

That is all, label me ignorant, stupid, a cunt or what ever the fuck you want but I know what's happening in Jena, Louisiana is wrong.

You're damn right it is, especially the government there.

[SL65AMG]

to play devil's advocate though, wouldn't the original Spaniards and Portugese ppl have been of European descent, considering that those two countries are in fact in Europe?
Would that not then make them white?


nope they were dark-skinned

[SL65AMG]

Ask him who helped capture the eventual slaves before they came to america.


african slave traders in the "motherland"

[BobbyFresco]

It's an excuse.


While I do agree that blacks are their own worst enemies when it comes to forward progession or lack thereof, it is ridiculous to say that racism does not exist in this country..That notion is absurd....It may not be as evident or in your face as it was in the past but best believe that it still exists..

In fact, this very forum is a daily testament to that.

[Mike Lowrey]

to play devil's advocate though, wouldn't the original Spaniards and Portugese ppl have been of European descent, considering that those two countries are in fact in Europe?
Would that not then make them white?

:rolleyes: And, judging from the belief that were are all decendents from Adam and Eve, make us all the same race? :goodjob:

[Glides]

Here i'll help you out with a timeline.

1444 First public sale of African slaves in Lagos Portugal
1482 The Portugese build the first permannt Slave trading post in what is now Ghana, it handled 30,000 slaves a year.
1510 The first slaves arrive in the Spanish colonies. So Hispanics owned Afircan slaves before we did. Hmm.
1518 The first shipment of slaves arrives in the Americas. 74 years after the first Africans were taken. Oh no, there goes the neighborhood.
1562 John Hawkins becomes the first English man to trade in slaves. So 118 years after African slaves were taken, We get our first dedicated and known slave trader.

I think your anger needs to be aimed elsewhere. Lets get some Portugese hatred going in here.

[SL65AMG]

And I will retract every other statement I made if Dominican can tell me who tried to take them home at the end of slavery and they didn't want to go.

Can the brainchild do that?

Or did he only learn what they tried to teach him in Hate Whitey class?

are you talking to me?


Edit: nevermind

[man]

african slave traders in the "motherland"

Damn you, I was hoping the other guy would answer.

also, got this from a site.

"In the Dominican Republic, the collection of slaves for the busy harvest season is more random. The Dominican army, with the support of the State Sugar Council (known as the CEA), "hauls Haitians off public buses, arrests them in their homes or at their jobs, and delivers them to the cane fields," according to Charles Jacobs.

Some of the cane-cutters sign on to work voluntarily. When the number of workers does not meet the harvest's demand, the Dominican army is set into action. The army's captives are forced to work at gunpoint and beaten if they try to escape."

[Dominikan521]

....WELL WHO IS THE GUY WHO DISCOVERED AMERICA??? DO YOU EVEN KNOW THAT???? (well the man given credit for originally discovering america, although he was not actually the first)




nope you fucking idiot it was not. and this is relevant because whites are always given shit for bringing slaves to america and all that bullshit.


it was the Spanish and Portuguese.


i bet you didnt think you would actually LEARN something did you?

Well the "first" to discover America, Christopher Columbus, was the first to bring slaves. I don't feel like giving a history lesson on IA when even historians argue about the facts. The motherfucking point is that black people today feel as if white southerners are all racist because of they practiced slavery hundreds of years ago. This is why there's been such a response to the "Jena 6" If you don't get where I'm coming from then... just shut the fuck up already.

[SL65AMG]

:rolleyes: And, judging from the belief that were are all decendents from Adam and Eve, make us all the same race? :goodjob:


i dont know about the adam and eve part but it is proven that EVERYONE originally descended from africa.

skin had changed over time to adapt to the climate. i believe its the amount of vitaminD, or E that you are exposed to from the sun.


hence europeans being very light skinned and the africans being dark skinned. its a natural protection.

[BobbyFresco]

nope they were dark-skinned


This of course is many generations removed from that time in history but the majority of ppl from Spain and Portugal are far from dark skinned....

In fact they prob appeared more white than you. Still do.

[man]

While I do agree that blacks are their own worst enemies when it comes to forward progession or lack thereof, it is ridiculous to say that racism does not exist in this country..That notion is absurd....It may not be as evident or in your face as it was in the past but best believe that it still exists..

In fact, this very forum is a daily testament to that.

I mean that slavery is an excuse that blacks use to justify their hatred towards whites. And allows them to label whites as racists if they make a single remark towards the black community, but blacks are allowed to say what they want because slavery somehow justify blacks being racist against whites.

[Stormhammer]

2006

SEPT. 1
Students arrive at Jena High School to find three nooses hanging from a tree in the center of the campus. Earlier in the week, some black students had asked whether they could sit under the tree alongside the white students.

SEPT. 7
Three white students are recommended for expulsion by the Jena High School principal after being accused of hanging the nooses.

SEPT.8
Schools Superintendent Roy D. Breithaupt announces that the students recommended for expulsion instead had been suspended, though he refused to say for how long, citing student privacy rules.

NOV. 30
Fire destroys the main academic building at Jena High School and is ruled the work of an arsonist. Later that night, a fight is reported at the Fair Barn in Jena at a private party.

DEC. 2
A fight is reported at the Gotta Go convenience store in Jena in which investigators say three students beat another man and took his shotgun. One of those accused later says the man had pulled the gun on them and that they had disarmed him.

DEC. 4
Jena High School reopens four days after the fire, with classes held in the undamaged wing of the school, library, band room and the home economics cottage. According to court documents, on the same day school reopens, white student Justin Barker is attacked by several students, knocked unconscious and rushed to LaSalle General Hospital. The LaSalle Parish School Board declares a state of emergency after the fire.

DEC. 5
It is announced that four people have been arrested in the Dec. 4 fight -- Carwin Jones, 18, Robert Bailey Jr., 17, Theo Shaw, 17, and an unnamed juvenile who was later identified as Jesse Ray Beard -- and charged with aggravated second-degree battery. Also, Shaw, Bailey and Ryan Simmons, 17, are arrested on charges of theft of a firearm, second-degree robbery and disturbing the peace in connection with the Dec. 2 fight. Deputies arrest Justin Sloan, 22, of Jena, in connection with the Nov. 30 fight and also implicate Bailey in that fight.

DEC. 6
It is announced that another unnamed juvenile has been arrested in the Dec. 4 fight.

DEC. 7
The LaSalle Parish District Attorney's Office announces that the charges against the six students arrested in the Dec. 4 case have been upgraded to attempted second-degree murder and conspiracy to commit second-degree murder. One of the unnamed students is identified as Bryant Purvis, 17.

DEC. 13
Nearly 500 people join hands at the Jena High School football stadium in a unity rally.

DEC. 15
It is announced that one of the two juveniles charged in the Dec. 4 fight - Mychal Bell, 16 - is being charged as an adult with attempted second-degree murder and conspiracy to commit second-degree murder. Bail is set at $90,000.

2007

JAN. 3
Purvis, Jones and Beard posted bail and were released from jail.

JAN. 6
Relatives of the students accused in the Dec. 4 fight say they have been expelled.

MAY 2
Demonstrators gather on the steps of the LaSalle Parish Courthouse shouting "Free the Jena Six" - the name now given to the students charged in the Dec. 4 fight. It is revealed that Bailey also has been released from jail.

MAY 10
Justin Barker, the victim in the Dec. 4 fight, is arrested after being accused of bringing a gun onto the Jena High School campus. Authorities say the gun, a hunting rifle, was found in Barker's truck.

MAY 11
Breithaupt says he is recommending that Barker be expelled.

MAY 21
The trial of three of the Jena Six is postponed until at least June 25.

JUNE 25
Court proceedings begin for Bell, whose charges are reduced to aggravated second-degree battery and conspiracy to commit the same.

JUNE 26
An all-white jury is selected to try Bell after only 50 of 150 people called to jury duty show up. None of the prospective jurors are black.

JUNE 27
LaSalle Parish District Attorney Reed Walters calls 17 witnesses to testify before resting, while Bell's defense attorney, Blane Williams, calls none.

JUNE 28
Bell is convicted of aggravated second-degree battery and conspiracy to commit the same after the jury deliberates for just shy of three hours. He faces more than 20 years in prison when sentencing begins on July 31.

JULY 31
The tree in which the nooses were found is cut down.

AUG. 6
The Rev. Al Sharpton becomes the first national civil rights leader to visit Jena in support of the six students.

AUG. 14
Martin Luther King III speaks in support of the students in Jena, and meets with Bell and his family.

AUG. 17
First day of school; mood remains relatively calm.

AUG. 24
After court records reveal that he has prior criminal offenses, Bell is denied bond.

AUG. 28
Jena High School officials ban "Free the Jena Six" T-shirts.

SEPT. 4
Bell's conviction on conspiracy charges is thrown out. Charges against Jones and Shaw are reduced.

SEPT. 9
The Rev. Jesse Jackson announces a march on Jena to be held on the new date of Bell's sentencing, Sept. 20.

SEPT. 10
Four of the five students charged with attempted murder have their charges reduced.

SEPT. 14
Bell's conviction is overturned by an appeals court, but he remains jailed. Although a sentencing hearing is no longer necessary, civil rights leaders say the Sept. 20 rally will go on as planned.

SEPT. 19
The Rev. Al Sharpton and others visit Jena in advance of a big rally planned for Sept. 20. Buses begin arriving in Alexandria from around the nation with people planning to attend the rally. A gathering to show support for the Jena Six is held in the Alexandria Riverfront Center.

SEPT. 20
Thousands of people, including the Revs. Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton, march in Jena on behalf of the Jena Six. The demonstration draws national media attention. More activities are slated in the afternoon in Alexandria.






I haven't seen anything that connected the white kid that had been severely beaten to him being the one that participated in the noose hanging. Nothing in the news whatsoever. In fact, they state that they were suspended and or expelled. So if they weren't there, who did the 6 beat up? :thinking: This is where the media is portraying things wrongly.

[Dominikan521]

Damn you, I was hoping the other guy would answer.

also, got this from a site.

"In the Dominican Republic, the collection of slaves for the busy harvest season is more random. The Dominican army, with the support of the State Sugar Council (known as the CEA), "hauls Haitians off public buses, arrests them in their homes or at their jobs, and delivers them to the cane fields," according to Charles Jacobs.

Some of the cane-cutters sign on to work voluntarily. When the number of workers does not meet the harvest's demand, the Dominican army is set into action. The army's captives are forced to work at gunpoint and beaten if they try to escape."

Go to the Dominican Republic and take a look for yourself dipshit. These claims are outright bullshit. I don't even want to get into it here.

[SL65AMG]

Well the "first" to discover America, Christopher Columbus, was the first to bring slaves. I don't feel like giving a history lesson on IA when even historians argue about the facts. The motherfucking point is that black people today feel as if white southerners are all racist because of they practiced slavery hundreds of years ago. This is why there's been such a response to the "Jena 6" If you don't get where I'm coming from then... just shut the fuck up already.


I. E. NOT ANYMORE!!!


no one alive today was an actual slave or slave owner.... only descendants. yet the blacks argue like they were just freed a week ago and act as if whites are superior.


if you wouldnt dwell in the fact that your great great great gramdma was a slave and did something to help yourself then you might be respected. but you choose to argue and point fingers and say that people owe YOU something cuz one of your DESCENDANTS was a slave.


you EARN respect. i vomit thinking of the fact that youwant respect without earning it.

[BobbyFresco]

:rolleyes: And, judging from the belief that were are all decendents from Adam and Eve, make us all the same race? :goodjob:


I guess, if you believe in that book of stories that is called the bible...:rolleyes:

[Mike Lowrey]

The motherfucking point is that black people today feel as if white southerners are all racist because of they practiced slavery hundreds of years ago. This is why there's been such a response to the "Jena 6" If you don't get where I'm coming from then... just shut the fuck up already.

THAT is what is called predudice thinking.


Thank you, come again.

[man]

Go to the Dominican Republic and take a look for yourself dipshit. These claims are outright bullshit. I don't even want to get into it here.

Oh that's right, you can deny it just because you haven't seen it. Guess what? None of us have seen slavery either!

[Doppelgänger]

God damn.... Jackson and Sharpton are in one place... quick.... get some tatical air support to clear that area out STAT!!!

[BobbyFresco]

Please keep in mind Fcman, Rich and others that I'm not taking any specific sides in this and I most definitely do not agree with some of the things that Dominikan is saying......:goodjob:

[man]

http://www.thedominican.net/articles/toussaint.htm

Haitian slavery in the Dominican Republic ended with the help of a white Englishman.

[Doppelgänger]

the blacks were just freed a week ago


O SNAP!! I MUST HAVE MISSED BET NEWS THAT NIGHT!!!!

[man]

Please keep in mind Fcman, Rich and others that I'm not taking any specific sides in this and I most definitely do not agree with some of the things that Dominikan is saying......:goodjob:

I know, I'm just debating.

[Dominikan521]

I. E. NOT ANYMORE!!!


no one alive today was an actual slave or slave owner.... only descendants. yet the blacks argue like they were just freed a week ago
As some would say, "some of these southern states never left the civil war".

[Mike Lowrey]

I guess, if you believe in that book of stories that is called the bible...:rolleyes:

That is why I said "belief"...

Nevermind, you missed my sarcasm anyway....

[SL65AMG]

i like this debate. its progressive

[Echonova]

Slavery alive and well in Brazil NEW!
Although slavery officially ended in Brazil in the latter half of the 19th century, it continues unofficially now in the 21st century. A recent report from the Folha de Sao Paulo revealed that today over 10,000 workers live in conditions of slavery. Most of those cases are in the North and Northeast parts of the country. In the state of Para alone, the Ministry of Work has received 75 complaints which involve some 3,000 workers, double the number of persons from last year's report.

Brother Henri des Roziers, the coordinator of the Catholic Church's Land Commission in Para, says that he calls daily to the Ministry of Work office to demand that the government investigate these cases. "What they tell me is that the investigations, which already were few in number, have been suspended because of lack of funding," commented des Roziers. Employees of the Ministry of Work recently reported to officials that their teams of investigators (which were formed as a result of international pressure) have been dismantled. They also reported that when they had teams, investigation was very difficult as the regional governmental officials barred or made very difficult their work.

In Para, slave labor is utilized in the lumber and cattle industry. Recruiters go to various points in the cities and promise a salary of R$400 (US$275) per month. As the workers are already in a state of misery, they accept the offer and go, not even knowing that they are already in debt for the trip to the locale of employment. Once they arrive, they find that they have to buy food at exorbitant prices and soon accumulate more debt. They are threatened with death if they try to flee. Most of the sites are far away from roads and highways, making coming and going very difficult. Besides hard labor, the workers also live in subhuman housing conditions, often lack potable water, and lack nutritious and sufficient food.

But the problem is not limited to Para. Tocantins, Maranhao, Mato Grosso do Sul, and Rio Grande do Sul: all have serious cases of slave labor pending. In the city of Sao Paulo there is even a case of enslavement of undocumented Bolivians who have come to Brazil in search of employment. According to the report, two problems exacerbate slave labor: high unemployment and impunity for those who exploit the workers. Between 1995 and 2002, the government has freed 4,900 "slaves." Over 1,000 have been freed this year alone. However, more often than not, the landowner or employer simply goes in search of more workers and repeats the actions. To date, not one "employer" is serving time in prison for exploitation of workers.

[man]

As some morons would say, "some of these southern states never left the civil war".

Fixed

[Stormhammer]

As some would say, "some of these southern states never left the civil war".

first time I've heard that saying - and I laughed at it :lmfao:

[BobbyFresco]

That is why I said "belief"...

Nevermind, you missed my sarcasm anyway....


I got it.....I guess you missed MY attempt @ sarcasm....LOL:lmfao:

[SL65AMG]

As some would say, "some of these southern states never left the civil war".


the fuck?


NEWSFLASH!!!!! the civil war is over!!! put away your musket

[OneSlow5pt0]

Bush hates black people

[SL65AMG]

Slavery alive and well in Brazil NEW!
Although slavery officially ended in Brazil in the latter half of the 19th century, it continues unofficially now in the 21st century. A recent report from the Folha de Sao Paulo revealed that today over 10,000 workers live in conditions of slavery. Most of those cases are in the North and Northeast parts of the country. In the state of Para alone, the Ministry of Work has received 75 complaints which involve some 3,000 workers, double the number of persons from last year's report.

Brother Henri des Roziers, the coordinator of the Catholic Church's Land Commission in Para, says that he calls daily to the Ministry of Work office to demand that the government investigate these cases. "What they tell me is that the investigations, which already were few in number, have been suspended because of lack of funding," commented des Roziers. Employees of the Ministry of Work recently reported to officials that their teams of investigators (which were formed as a result of international pressure) have been dismantled. They also reported that when they had teams, investigation was very difficult as the regional governmental officials barred or made very difficult their work.

In Para, slave labor is utilized in the lumber and cattle industry. Recruiters go to various points in the cities and promise a salary of R$400 (US$275) per month. As the workers are already in a state of misery, they accept the offer and go, not even knowing that they are already in debt for the trip to the locale of employment. Once they arrive, they find that they have to buy food at exorbitant prices and soon accumulate more debt. They are threatened with death if they try to flee. Most of the sites are far away from roads and highways, making coming and going very difficult. Besides hard labor, the workers also live in subhuman housing conditions, often lack potable water, and lack nutritious and sufficient food.

But the problem is not limited to Para. Tocantins, Maranhao, Mato Grosso do Sul, and Rio Grande do Sul: all have serious cases of slave labor pending. In the city of Sao Paulo there is even a case of enslavement of undocumented Bolivians who have come to Brazil in search of employment. According to the report, two problems exacerbate slave labor: high unemployment and impunity for those who exploit the workers. Between 1995 and 2002, the government has freed 4,900 "slaves." Over 1,000 have been freed this year alone. However, more often than not, the landowner or employer simply goes in search of more workers and repeats the actions. To date, not one "employer" is serving time in prison for exploitation of workers.


slavery is eveywhere.

troof....



but this is not brazil so that was pointless

[SL65AMG]

Bush hates black people


......



he personally told you that he hates black people?

[BobbyFresco]

The botton line is as long as humanity exists, so will racism and prejudice.
There will never be a time in history when we will all get along...

Prejudice is human nature....I'm not excusing it but facts are facts...

You can either get the fuck over it and learn to deal w/it or let it affect you and thus use it as a crutch to justify your shortcomings....

[Echonova]

slavery is eveywhere.

troof....



but this is not brazil so that was pointlessAgreed, much like the rest of the thread.:lmfao: :lmfao: Nobody is going to change the others view.

[Mike Lowrey]

I got it.....I guess you missed MY attempt @ sarcasm....LOL:lmfao:

I think it got lost in the folded, flabby fat that is Dominikan521's stupidity. :D

[SL65AMG]

The botton line is as long as humanity exists, so will racism and prejudice.
There will never be a time in history when we will all get along...

Prejudice is human nature....I'm not excusing it but facts are facts...

You can either get the fuck over it and learn to deal w/it or let it affect you and thus use it as a crutch to justify your shortcomings....


good point. our government allows people to suck at life and still get away with it.

look at bankruptcy.... they dont let anyone fail. no one is responsible for their own actions

[OneSlow5pt0]

y does it always have to be whites are racist towards blacks............black people can be just as racist if not more

[SL65AMG]

Agreed, much like the rest of the thread.:lmfao: :lmfao: Nobody is going to change the others view.


eddjookashun is a necessity for people to become less ignorant..... that is whats happening here.... people will always be stupid but at least you can try to educate them. if they dont learn....thats their problem

[Dominikan521]

I think it got lost in the folded, flabby fat that is Dominikan521's stupidity. :D

So what's your stance on the Jena 6 issue smart ass?

[Glides]

2006

SEPT. 1
Students arrive at Jena High School to find three nooses hanging from a tree in the center of the campus. Earlier in the week, some black students had asked whether they could sit under the tree alongside the white students.

SEPT. 7
Three white students are recommended for expulsion by the Jena High School principal after being accused of hanging the nooses.

SEPT.8
Schools Superintendent Roy D. Breithaupt announces that the students recommended for expulsion instead had been suspended, though he refused to say for how long, citing student privacy rules.

NOV. 30
Fire destroys the main academic building at Jena High School and is ruled the work of an arsonist. Later that night, a fight is reported at the Fair Barn in Jena at a private party.

DEC. 2
A fight is reported at the Gotta Go convenience store in Jena in which investigators say three students beat another man and took his shotgun. One of those accused later says the man had pulled the gun on them and that they had disarmed him.

DEC. 4
Jena High School reopens four days after the fire, with classes held in the undamaged wing of the school, library, band room and the home economics cottage. According to court documents, on the same day school reopens, white student Justin Barker is attacked by several students, knocked unconscious and rushed to LaSalle General Hospital. The LaSalle Parish School Board declares a state of emergency after the fire.

DEC. 5
It is announced that four people have been arrested in the Dec. 4 fight -- Carwin Jones, 18, Robert Bailey Jr., 17, Theo Shaw, 17, and an unnamed juvenile who was later identified as Jesse Ray Beard -- and charged with aggravated second-degree battery. Also, Shaw, Bailey and Ryan Simmons, 17, are arrested on charges of theft of a firearm, second-degree robbery and disturbing the peace in connection with the Dec. 2 fight. Deputies arrest Justin Sloan, 22, of Jena, in connection with the Nov. 30 fight and also implicate Bailey in that fight.

DEC. 6
It is announced that another unnamed juvenile has been arrested in the Dec. 4 fight.

DEC. 7
The LaSalle Parish District Attorney's Office announces that the charges against the six students arrested in the Dec. 4 case have been upgraded to attempted second-degree murder and conspiracy to commit second-degree murder. One of the unnamed students is identified as Bryant Purvis, 17.

DEC. 13
Nearly 500 people join hands at the Jena High School football stadium in a unity rally.

DEC. 15
It is announced that one of the two juveniles charged in the Dec. 4 fight - Mychal Bell, 16 - is being charged as an adult with attempted second-degree murder and conspiracy to commit second-degree murder. Bail is set at $90,000.

2007

JAN. 3
Purvis, Jones and Beard posted bail and were released from jail.

JAN. 6
Relatives of the students accused in the Dec. 4 fight say they have been expelled.

MAY 2
Demonstrators gather on the steps of the LaSalle Parish Courthouse shouting "Free the Jena Six" - the name now given to the students charged in the Dec. 4 fight. It is revealed that Bailey also has been released from jail.

MAY 10
Justin Barker, the victim in the Dec. 4 fight, is arrested after being accused of bringing a gun onto the Jena High School campus. Authorities say the gun, a hunting rifle, was found in Barker's truck.

MAY 11
Breithaupt says he is recommending that Barker be expelled.

MAY 21
The trial of three of the Jena Six is postponed until at least June 25.

JUNE 25
Court proceedings begin for Bell, whose charges are reduced to aggravated second-degree battery and conspiracy to commit the same.

JUNE 26
An all-white jury is selected to try Bell after only 50 of 150 people called to jury duty show up. None of the prospective jurors are black.

JUNE 27
LaSalle Parish District Attorney Reed Walters calls 17 witnesses to testify before resting, while Bell's defense attorney, Blane Williams, calls none.

JUNE 28
Bell is convicted of aggravated second-degree battery and conspiracy to commit the same after the jury deliberates for just shy of three hours. He faces more than 20 years in prison when sentencing begins on July 31.

JULY 31
The tree in which the nooses were found is cut down.

AUG. 6
The Rev. Al Sharpton becomes the first national civil rights leader to visit Jena in support of the six students.

AUG. 14
Martin Luther King III speaks in support of the students in Jena, and meets with Bell and his family.

AUG. 17
First day of school; mood remains relatively calm.

AUG. 24
After court records reveal that he has prior criminal offenses, Bell is denied bond.

AUG. 28
Jena High School officials ban "Free the Jena Six" T-shirts.

SEPT. 4
Bell's conviction on conspiracy charges is thrown out. Charges against Jones and Shaw are reduced.

SEPT. 9
The Rev. Jesse Jackson announces a march on Jena to be held on the new date of Bell's sentencing, Sept. 20.

SEPT. 10
Four of the five students charged with attempted murder have their charges reduced.

SEPT. 14
Bell's conviction is overturned by an appeals court, but he remains jailed. Although a sentencing hearing is no longer necessary, civil rights leaders say the Sept. 20 rally will go on as planned.

SEPT. 19
The Rev. Al Sharpton and others visit Jena in advance of a big rally planned for Sept. 20. Buses begin arriving in Alexandria from around the nation with people planning to attend the rally. A gathering to show support for the Jena Six is held in the Alexandria Riverfront Center.

SEPT. 20
Thousands of people, including the Revs. Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton, march in Jena on behalf of the Jena Six. The demonstration draws national media attention. More activities are slated in the afternoon in Alexandria.






I haven't seen anything that connected the white kid that had been severely beaten to him being the one that participated in the noose hanging. Nothing in the news whatsoever. In fact, they state that they were suspended and or expelled. So if they weren't there, who did the 6 beat up? :thinking: This is where the media is portraying things wrongly.

You sire, are amazing. So brilliant of a find that I don't even know what to do.

[man]

So what's your stance on the Jena 6 issue smart ass?

I believe he's already posted it...

[BobbyFresco]

y does it always have to be whites are racist towards blacks............black people can be just as racist if not more


You're like 2 weeks late...:rolleyes:

Don't you have some homework to go do?

[SL65AMG]

So what's your stance on the Jena 6 issue smart ass?


its a fucking waste of my tax dollars.... so is your welfare plan

[man]

its a fucking waste of my tax dollars.... so is your welfare plan

LOL, oh Jesus...

[Dominikan521]

I believe he's already posted it...

It got lost within all of his fucking stupid posts avoiding progress within the original debate.

[OneSlow5pt0]

You're like 2 weeks late...:rolleyes:

Don't you have some homework to go do?


meany

[Glides]

Dominican. You have been weighed, you have been measured and you have been found wanting.

You debate is pointless. They are criminals, evidence has been looked at. It has been proven (In your home country now it seems) that blacks enslave other blacks and now you are just shooting blanks into the wind.

As Paul Harvey would say, "and THAT is the rest of the story" Good day.

[BobbyFresco]

meany


LOL....:D

[Dominikan521]

its a fucking waste of my tax dollars.... so is your welfare plan

:blah:

Your'e one stupid fuck.

[Mike Lowrey]

So what's your stance on the Jena 6 issue smart ass?

See Post #131 on page #7 :goodjob:

[SL65AMG]

:blah:

Your'e one stupid fuck.

speak for yourself dumbass.

[Mike Lowrey]

its a fucking waste of my tax dollars.... so is your welfare plan

:lmfao: :lmfao: :lmfao: :lmfao: :lmfao:

[Dominikan521]

Dominican. You have been weighed, you have been measured and you have been found wanting.

You debate is pointless. They are criminals, evidence has been looked at. It has been proven (In your home country now it seems) that blacks enslave other blacks and now you are just shooting blanks into the wind.

As Paul Harvey would say, "and THAT is the rest of the story" Good day.

My debate is pointless? Please provide me with an outline of my debate and your counter-points. Do you even know what my original debate was about? :no:

[Mike Lowrey]

It got lost within all of his fucking stupid posts avoiding progress within the original debate.

How long did it take for you to come up with that one? :lmfao:

[man]

It got lost within all of his fucking stupid posts avoiding progress within the original debate.

I'm pretty sure everyone that went off-topic had already posted a response to the issue. We then argued points that you, yourself brought into the argument, such as "blacks can't be racist" or something along those lines.

[Dominikan521]

speak for yourself dumbass.

According to you I'm on welfare. :blah:

According to you those six boys don't merit a reconsideration on the imposed and soon to be pressed charges because they're not worth your shitty tax dollars.

Listen to yourself you worthless shitbag, putting your money infront of human lives.

[Mike Lowrey]

I'm pretty sure everyone that went off-topic had already posted a response to the issue. We then argued points that you, yourself brought into the argument, such as "blacks can't be racist" or something along those lines.

Ohs Nos! He did not go there!


YES HE DID!

:lmfao: :lmfao:

[Echonova]

As a Dominican, were your ancestors slaves in the south? I really don't know and don't feel like using Google to look.

[Dominikan521]

I'm pretty sure everyone that went off-topic had already posted a response to the issue. We then argued points that you, yourself brought into the argument, such as "blacks can't be racist" or something along those lines.

Nobody here has a perfect debate and if you don't like mine work with it and prove me wrong. Some of the stuff I've posted is opinion other things fact. If you don't like my opinions, fine, your entitled to think what you want but throwing in insults along the way is pointless and makes you look like an idiot.

[OneSlow5pt0]

the white students never hit any of the black students,and the white students were suspenned from school.........so where do think its ok to beat somebody up for that?

[man]

As a Dominican, were your ancestors slaves in the south? I really don't know and don't feel like using Google to look.

Are you kidding, as a Dominican, his great-great grandparents probably owned Haitian slaves.

[SL65AMG]

According to you I'm on welfare. :blah:

According to you those six boys don't merit a reconsideration on the imposed and soon to be pressed charges because they're not worth your shitty tax dollars.

Listen to yourself you worthless shitbag, putting your money infront of human lives.


those 6 boys beat the shit out of some kid. regardless of race


those 6 boys should be on trial for assault and battery


those 6 boys have gotten off because they are black.




regardless of the situation, blacks will support blacks, BECAUSE theyre black, guilty or not

[Dominikan521]

As a Dominican, were your ancestors slaves in the south? I really don't know and don't feel like using Google to look.

I'm not your typical dark skinned Dominican so I'd have to say that even if there were Dominican slaves in the south they wouldn't have come from my family.

[BobbyFresco]

the white students never hit any of the black students,and the white students were suspenned from school.........so where do think its ok to beat somebody up for that?



Again, you're later than a pregnant bitches period.

Homework. Go do it. Now....:yes:

[Echonova]

Are you kidding, as a Dominican, his great-great grandparents probably owned Haitian slaves.Dammit!!!! You ruined my carefully planned trap! Months worth of work..... RUINED!!!!! All because of you.

[sunsetvette]

I'm in New Orleans today and this is the top story in the city. There were bunches of buses that filled up this morning in NO to go to Jena. There's a rumor that lots of them were paid with either free food or cash. Who but the unemployed would have time to get on a bus on a Thursday morning to a little podunk town in the middle of nowhere for a day? From some of the interviews and comments on the local stations I'd bet 95% of the people protesting have no idea what the chain of events are.

Whether you agree with the issue or not, it's comical to watch 60,000 out of town people infiltrate a city like Jena which only has 3,000 residents. Guess everybody's looking for their 10 minutes of fame.

[BobbyFresco]

regardless of the situation, blacks will support blacks, BECAUSE theyre black, guilty or not


This is a broad statement that is not entirely true......

I don't support all " black " causes.

Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton neither act in my behalf nor represent me or my opinions.

I'm black.

[Dominikan521]

Are you kidding, as a Dominican, his great-great grandparents probably owned Haitian slaves.

You speak as if Cubans didn't have slaves either. Sugar cane grows in Cuba too :goodjob:

Maybe you should look into the Dominican/Haitian history before making such blatant remarks about slavery. Dominicans were slaves at one point thanks to the French then the Spanish came and sent the French and their own slaves to the eastern part of Hispañiola.

[SL65AMG]

I'm in New Orleans today and this is the top story in the city. There were bunches of buses that filled up this morning in NO to go to Jena. There's a rumor that lots of them were paid with either free food or cash. Who but the unemployed would have time to get on a bus on a Thursday morning to a little podunk town in the middle of nowhere for a day? From some of the interviews and comments on the local stations I'd bet 95% of the people protesting have no idea what the chain of events are.

Whether you agree with the issue or not, it's comical to watch 60,000 out of town people infiltrate a city like Jena which only has 3,000 residents. Guess everybody's looking for their 10 minutes of fame.


their bosses let them off work for fear of being labeled "racist" and ultimately, sued

[SL65AMG]

This is a broad statement that is not entirely true......

I don't support all " black " causes.

Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton neither act in my behalf nor represent me or my opinions.

I'm black.

i know thats its broad.... i dont mean EVERYONE because there are obviously some that are exceptions.....


there are "exceptions" to every rule.... keep that in mind. and my bad if i offended you

[SL65AMG]

i have a question.....


Say the jury for that Bell kid had not been Entirely white... say that it had been entirely black, do you think that he would have been found innocent?