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ShooterMcGavin
08-13-2007, 11:15 PM
Vick must decide whether to accept plea agreement

ESPN.com news services

Updated: August 13, 2007, 8:38 PM ET


With two more co-defendants distancing themselves from Michael Vick, the embattled Falcons quarterback was considering on Monday whether to accept a plea agreement for his alleged role in a dogfighting operation.

Sources told ESPN's Kelly Naqi that Vick attorneys Larry Woodward and Billy Martin met with federal prosecutor Michael Gill and the investigators on Monday afternoon. The attorneys planned to speak with the quarterback in the evening to see what direction he wants to go in.

That comes on the heels of news that co-defendants Purnell Peace and Quanis Phillips are scheduled to appear in federal court in Richmond at the end of the week and are expected to accept their own plea agreements. Peace's hearing is at 9 a.m. (ET) on Thursday, while Phillips will appear on Friday at the same time. Plea agreements would clear them to testify against Vick.

Collins R. Spencer III, a spokesman for Vick's defense team, said the lawyers were surprised by the plea deals.

"They didn't see it coming," Spencer said.

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But he said it wouldn't affect the way he proceeds with the case.

In a Richmond, Va., court in late July, Vick pleaded not guilty to conspiracy to travel in interstate commerce in aid of unlawful activities, and conspiring to sponsor a dog in an animal fighting venture. He said in a written statement that he looked forward to "clearing my good name." He also pleaded with the public to resist a rush to judgment.

Another of Vick's co-defendants, 34-year-old Tony Taylor, pleaded guilty to the same charges and has pledged to fully cooperate with the government in its prosecution of Vick and the two others. The plea deal requires Taylor to testify against Vick and his two remaining co-defendants if called upon to do so.

A source close to the investigation told Naqi that Vick has until Friday to make up his mind whether to accept a plea agreement. Otherwise a superseding indictment will be filed and Vick will face at least two more federal dogfighting charges.

Meanwhile, the NFL dismissed a report Sunday that said commissioner Roger Goodell was close to announcing a season-long suspension of Vick.

Citing two sources within the league, Yahoo.com reported late Sunday night that Goodell will announce "this week or next" that Vick will be suspended for the 2007 season.

"That's the direction it's going and has been from the time this started," one of the sources said this week, according to Yahoo. "The plan was to make sure it was announced before the season. Given what everybody has seen from what [league] security found and what the feds are telling us, there's really no choice."

Eric Holder, a former deputy attorney general retained by the league, is still gathering facts on Vick's alleged involvement in dogfighting, NFL spokesman Greg Aiello said Monday.

"The commissioner has not made any decision," Aiello said.

The gruesome details outlined in the July 17 indictment have fueled public protests against Vick and prompted the suspension of some of his lucrative endorsement deals. The summary of facts signed by Taylor supports the indictment's claims that the dogfighting ring on Vick's property in Surry County, Va., executed underperforming dogs by drowning, hanging and other brutal means. Taylor admitted shooting one dog and electrocuting another when they did not perform well in test fights in the summer of 2002.

Vick has been barred from Falcons training camp by Goodell while the league conducts its investigation.

"While it is for the criminal justice system to determine your guilt or innocence, it is my responsibility as commissioner of the National Football League to determine whether your conduct, even if not criminal, nonetheless violated league policies, including the Personal Conduct Policy," Goodell said in a letter to the quarterback on July 24.

Falcons coach Bobby Petrino said he has not spoken with his players about Vick's troubles since camp opened.

"I'm not ready to respond to anything regarding Michael because I know nothing new," Petrino said.

Falcons running back Warrick Dunn, Vick's teammate since 2002, said he recently spoke with the 27-year-old quarterback to offer support. Dunn added, however, that the players have no choice but to move ahead and prepare for the Sept. 9 season opener at Minnesota.

"I don't think anybody on this team right now is hoping that Mike comes back," Dunn said. "If he comes back, that's great, but I just think right now we're at point where the guys that are here are trying to get better and move on down the road. Mike is going to be missed and has been missed, but at the same time you have to go on."

Nismo
08-13-2007, 11:31 PM
So what are his options, I must have missed them skiming over it

aaronfelipe
08-13-2007, 11:33 PM
So what are his options, I must have missed them skiming over it
Yeah,
Cliff notes?

OneSlow5pt0
08-13-2007, 11:36 PM
dont drop the soap

ShooterMcGavin
08-13-2007, 11:37 PM
his options:

1) fight it, most likely lose, go to jail for years
2) plea bargain, go to jail for years

don't you love options? :lmao:

ShooterMcGavin
08-13-2007, 11:37 PM
dont drop the soap
lolz, see this guy got it :goodjob:

Maniaç
08-13-2007, 11:46 PM
damn, so hes really fucked..

Leadfoot_mf
08-13-2007, 11:57 PM
yeah he is fucked now.




hahahahahahahahahahaha

OneSlow5pt0
08-13-2007, 11:58 PM
fight it = more years

but if he pleads he will never play in the NFL again,if he fights he has a 0.00001% of winning

Maniaç
08-13-2007, 11:59 PM
damn, another black gettng owned by the law! lol.

KPowerEP3
08-14-2007, 02:20 AM
I'm just happy he's not playing football [yet] this year. He's the worst thing to happen to Atlanta in years.

BB6dohcvtec
08-14-2007, 02:45 AM
doubt he will do jail time watch and see.

Psycho
08-14-2007, 03:37 AM
Nothing makes a man think about his actions like years of rough prison sex does.

RISKYB
08-14-2007, 08:26 AM
he will be bubbas new bitch

Brett
08-14-2007, 08:50 AM
doubt he will do jail time watch and see.

He may not do jail time, OJ proved of you have money you can get out of anything, BUT regardless his NFL career is done.

If he takes the plea he has to admit guilt. That alone with have the NFL Comissioner kicking him out of the NFL for lying to him directly. If he fights it and gets found guilty which the 2 new guys turning on him say that have hard evidence to back them up on Vicks guilt, Vick will be found guilty and is out of the NFL. Either way he is done.

My question is I wonder if there is a clause in his contract that has it so the Falcons will be able to terminate his contract if he admits/found guilty so we dont have to pay out his contract which in turn opens our salary cap wide open for more talent

Leisa
08-14-2007, 09:08 AM
I'm just happy he's not playing football [yet] this year. He's the worst thing to happen to Atlanta in years.

you are so wrong....

The Falcons needed Vick to pump up the stamina of the fans which was a dying thing for many years... once they signed him they were the new up and coming football team... I think Vick is a great QB... however his decisions that he makes have moved him downhill.. He had a very promising career with us.

Killer
08-14-2007, 09:21 AM
[SIZE=2]Peace's hearing is at 9 a.m. (ET) on Thursday, while Phillips will appear on Friday at the same time. Plea agreements would clear them to testify against Vick.

are you kidding me!?!?!!! they get their slates wiped clean if they testify against vick??? that's ridiculous! if they were involved they are just as guilty... it's like they are trying to get vick just cause he's "famous"....

don't get me wrong.. if he did it.. i hope he rots... but anyone involved should get the same treatment.

Brett
08-14-2007, 10:03 AM
No just like the first guy they will still be punished for thier charges but they will not be as severe as if they go to trial and for giving what they know on Vick will keep new charges from being charged on them. They are just saying they will be clear to testify against Vick if they plea out.

PhAtBoYMr2
08-14-2007, 10:10 AM
brett send me a pm and hook me up with what we talked about yesterday!

1000cckiller
08-14-2007, 10:13 AM
No just like the first guy they will still be punished for thier charges but they will not be as severe as if they go to trial and for giving what they know on Vick will keep new charges from being charged on them. They are just saying they will be clear to testify against Vick if they plea out.dude the first guy who flipped might get a clean slate.

DrunkScotsman
08-14-2007, 10:17 AM
dont drop the soap:lmfao::lmfao::lmfao::lmfao:good shit

DrunkScotsman
08-14-2007, 10:21 AM
phatboy , hook vick up with your connections and he should be good to go!

PhAtBoYMr2
08-14-2007, 10:44 AM
phatboy , hook vick up with your connections and he should be good to go!


You don't think i already tried?!?!?

FUCK THE FEDS

BB6dohcvtec
08-14-2007, 11:11 AM
He may not do jail time, OJ proved of you have money you can get out of anything, BUT regardless his NFL career is done.

If he takes the plea he has to admit guilt. That alone with have the NFL Comissioner kicking him out of the NFL for lying to him directly. If he fights it and gets found guilty which the 2 new guys turning on him say that have hard evidence to back them up on Vicks guilt, Vick will be found guilty and is out of the NFL. Either way he is done.

My question is I wonder if there is a clause in his contract that has it so the Falcons will be able to terminate his contract if he admits/found guilty so we dont have to pay out his contract which in turn opens our salary cap wide open for more talent

I will put money where my typing is lol and say he won't go to jail and he will be back playing football next year just in time for mini-camp in the nfl. watch and learn how awesome our justice system is.

1000cckiller
08-14-2007, 11:46 AM
I will put money where my typing is lol and say he won't go to jail and he will be back playing football next year just in time for mini-camp in the nfl. watch and learn how awesome our justice system is.what is so fucked up this might really happen

Leisa
08-14-2007, 12:42 PM
Not if the NFL commissioner has something to say about it.

Mr.Big
08-14-2007, 12:53 PM
Aint know body going to mess with vick in prison. That man will have repect in prison

DrunkScotsman
08-14-2007, 12:56 PM
Aint know body going to mess with vick in jail. Everybody in there is going to respect him lmfao , you and phatboy must be sharin the same pipe:lmfao::lmfao::lmfao::lmfao::lmfao:

Mr.Big
08-14-2007, 12:57 PM
lmfao , you and phatboy must be sharin the same pipe:lmfao::lmfao::lmfao::lmfao::lmfao:

Naw i just know prison life

BB6dohcvtec
08-14-2007, 01:06 PM
Not if the NFL commissioner has something to say about it.

lol at you thinking the commissioner is above the government, you can't take away a man's right to make a living and that argument will uphold in court.

Project:PULL
08-14-2007, 01:08 PM
I think Vick is a great QB...

He's a good athlete NOT a good QB.

Brett
08-14-2007, 01:14 PM
lol at you thinking the commissioner is above the government, you can't take away a man's right to make a living and that argument will uphold in court.

Oh really? Look at Pacman Jones, he is out of the NFL by the NFLs choice, They can kick him out if he violates conduct code just like any job can fire your ass, where do you think the government will say the NFL must let him play even though he violated conduct rules they they have set for players. Its like a regular job, you rbreak the rules you get fired. The commisioner will fire him from the NFL and has every right and power to do so.

A right for him to make a living? Oh please :lmfao: thats like saying I get caught stealing from work and get fired then think the government will make my empoyer rehire me!! GIVE ME A BREAK

BKgen®
08-14-2007, 01:15 PM
you are so wrong....

The Falcons needed Vick to pump up the stamina of the fans which was a dying thing for many years... once they signed him they were the new up and coming football team... I think Vick is a great RB... however his decisions that he makes have moved him downhill.. He had a very promising career with us.

fixed :D

Mr.Big
08-14-2007, 01:21 PM
Its whole damn thing is just crazy to me. My cuz friend hunts deers as a hobby. Kill deers for a hobby. I aint saying fighting pits is a hobby but there shooting deer in the wild.So the deer does not see it coming. All these animal rights folks that have to much damn time on there hand. Ask me there making it a big deal cause vicks is a black superstar.

Tell me this what ever happen to that hockey player that was drive fast in his Ferrari. Crash it and kill his team mate. I dont think that guy did time

BKgen®
08-14-2007, 01:25 PM
Its whole damn thing is just crazy to me. My cuz friend hunts deers as a hobby. Kill deers for a hobby. I aint saying fighting pits is a hobby but there shooting deer in the wild.So the deer does not see it coming. All these animal rights folks that have to much damn time on there hand. Ask me there making it a big deal cause vicks is a black superstar.

Tell me this what ever happen to that hockey player that was drive fast in his Ferrari. Crash it and kill his team mate. I dont think that guy did time

you're so right. shame on them.


:rolleyes:

81911SC
08-14-2007, 01:25 PM
Was the Race card just pulled?

BKgen®
08-14-2007, 01:25 PM
yes... yes, it was.

81911SC
08-14-2007, 01:29 PM
Suprising, Post any race cards you find.

BB6dohcvtec
08-14-2007, 01:29 PM
Oh really? Look at Pacman Jones, he is out of the NFL by the NFLs choice, They can kick him out if he violates conduct code just like any job can fire your ass, where do you think the government will say the NFL must let him play even though he violated conduct rules they they have set for players. Its like a regular job, you rbreak the rules you get fired. The commisioner will fire him from the NFL and has every right and power to do so.

A right for him to make a living? Oh please :lmfao: thats like saying I get caught stealing from work and get fired then think the government will make my empoyer rehire me!! GIVE ME A BREAK

pacman is out for suspension not out of the nfl, he is still under contract with the titans. i am no fan of vick never was but i am just telling you whats going to happen. and the nfl is not like any other job so don't even put them in that category. professional sports is a totally different job with different punishments and a job with a substantial amount of political ties. because it is the same thing that happened with letrell sprewell after he choked out his coach stern tried to kick him out the league he took it to court and he couldn't do it and spree was back the next season. the only way vick can get kicked out of the nfl and it stays like that is if vick is convicted on felony counts and is sentenced to jail time. but that will not happened he will get convicted but they are going to find some way to drop it down to a misdemeanor without doing a plea deal. and then people like yourself and many others across the country will be outraged and i will sit here laughing saying lol'ing at our justice system yet again.

BKgen®
08-14-2007, 01:30 PM
Suprising, Post any race cards you find.

http://premium1.uploadit.org/brandonp47//racecard-6906.jpg

:lmfao:

81911SC
08-14-2007, 01:32 PM
That was mine kdmasshole!

ShooterMcGavin
08-14-2007, 05:55 PM
I will put money where my typing is lol and say he won't go to jail and he will be back playing football next year just in time for mini-camp in the nfl. watch and learn how awesome our justice system is.
don't do it, you'd be losing money...no fucking joking, it is in many experts eyes that vick would be LUCKY to get away with just 1 yr served in prison. in fact he and his attorneys know this, which is why they met today to discuss possible plea bargain deals.

ShooterMcGavin
08-14-2007, 05:55 PM
pacman is out for suspension not out of the nfl, he is still under contract with the titans. i am no fan of vick never was but i am just telling you whats going to happen. and the nfl is not like any other job so don't even put them in that category. professional sports is a totally different job with different punishments and a job with a substantial amount of political ties. because it is the same thing that happened with letrell sprewell after he choked out his coach stern tried to kick him out the league he took it to court and he couldn't do it and spree was back the next season. the only way vick can get kicked out of the nfl and it stays like that is if vick is convicted on felony counts and is sentenced to jail time. but that will not happened he will get convicted but they are going to find some way to drop it down to a misdemeanor without doing a plea deal. and then people like yourself and many others across the country will be outraged and i will sit here laughing saying lol'ing at our justice system yet again.
WRONG! once again, pacman was suspended for a whole season (so far, let's see if he keeps up the stupid shit) w/o any convictions. goodell has every right and ability to suspend vick for as long as he chooses.

fire7882
08-14-2007, 06:17 PM
Its whole damn thing is just crazy to me. My cuz friend hunts deers as a hobby. Kill deers for a hobby. I aint saying fighting pits is a hobby but there shooting deer in the wild.So the deer does not see it coming.

I've heard this way to many times and it is just stupid. Hunters eat what they kill and don't(or shouldn't) get a thrill from seeing their game suffer. If the hunting is done just to kill and the game is just left to rot, then you might have somewhat of an argument but IMHO, its still not the same. Dogs were domesticated for hunting and human companionship and trust their owners to protect them.:2cents:

HeLLo iM iZzY
08-14-2007, 06:57 PM
Sucks to be him.

Mr.Big
08-14-2007, 08:56 PM
I've heard this way to many times and it is just stupid. Hunters eat what they kill and don't(or shouldn't) get a thrill from seeing their game suffer. If the hunting is done just to kill and the game is just left to rot, then you might have somewhat of an argument but IMHO, its still not the same. Dogs were domesticated for hunting and human companionship and trust their owners to protect them.:2cents:

Man dogs was born in the wild But Pitbulls was breeded or made for one thing. Not hunting

fire7882
08-14-2007, 09:19 PM
Man dogs was born in the wild

And????? I never said they wern't born in the wild, I said that human's made them domestic animals.




Pitbulls was breeded or made for one thing. Not hunting

My bad. Now I understand. That makes everything better. :screwy:

BB6dohcvtec
08-14-2007, 10:03 PM
don't do it, you'd be losing money...no fucking joking, it is in many experts eyes that vick would be LUCKY to get away with just 1 yr served in prison. in fact he and his attorneys know this, which is why they met today to discuss possible plea bargain deals.

as i say again watch the justice system at its finest. :goodjob:

Brett
08-14-2007, 11:00 PM
WRONG! once again, pacman was suspended for a whole season (so far, let's see if he keeps up the stupid shit) w/o any convictions. goodell has every right and ability to suspend vick for as long as he chooses.

EXACTLY

BB6dohcvtec
08-15-2007, 12:05 AM
vick hasn't been convicted of anything yet so please keep the rant down to minimum some of us like to see how the us justice system plays out :lmfao: