B16A turbo HELP! REPS 4 everyone!

[revsk8erdude]

i just installed a new alternator on my crx and put everything back the way its supposed to be (intake, fuel rail, sensors, hoses, intercooler piping, throttle body, etc.)

i charge the battery to give the alternator a charge.

i start the crx and it wont turn over.

i try jumping it with the battery charger. it turns over.

the previous owner looks it at it and says it is running low on oil (oil hose for turbo blew and oil drained out)

i put 4 qts. castrol 10w30.

this morning i started it agian and it turns over no problem.

i notice the idle is REALLY low or messed up.

i let my foot off the gas and i see the battery light start to dimly blink as if it were about to die, but never cuts out. just a frantic blinking.

i put my foot back on the gas and it stops blinking and idles a little higher but better than it was.

i let it sit for a few minitues thinking it was just the fuel being pumped back into the rail, but the idle never adjusts.

it eventually cuts out.

i start it agian, same problem.

i let it sit for a few minitues and it wont turn over.

10 minitues later it turns over. i put it in gear, thinking if i run it the fuel would be pumped in the rail for sure. i put it in gear, let off the clutch, it jumps forward a little and dies.

WHATS GOING ON GUYS? A BAD SENSOR? FUEL? FUEL PUMP?

ill give a 100+ reps to anyone that can help me.

[BTLFED]

i just installed a new alternator on my crx and put everything back the way its supposed to be (intake, fuel rail, sensors, hoses, intercooler piping, throttle body, etc.)

Stop here. WTF did you take all of that out for to replace the alternator? :thinking:

[EmminoDaGreat]

fuel is instantly sent to the rail when you turn the key on.

[revsk8erdude]

its a swapped b16a engine and its so cramped theres no room to get the alternator out, so i had to take it all out.

ok, well if its not the fuel then could there not be enough air getting through?

is there a air/fuel adjuster anywhere?

i have pics of it in the "new members" forum. its called "the new guy"

[BTLFED]

its a swapped b16a engine and its so cramped theres no room to get the alternator out, so i had to take it all out.


Strange, I just take the drive axle out, take the alternator off the bracket, and take the bracket off the block. Hmm....

[revsk8erdude]

Strange, I just take the drive axle out, take the alternator off the bracket, and take the bracket off the block. Hmm....

haha. i would have if i had a lift. it crossed my mind a couple times but i said the hell with it.

[95alty]

DAWG THIS SAME THING HAPPENED TO ME WITH MY ALTIMA... Come to find out... The engine gave out and lost all oil... if the oil starts to drain out after you put more in if its under the car then your head gasket may be blown (just a thought). Im no expert or anything but you have the same symptoms as mine... Dont go change your starter or your battery as to if you will take to auto zone they will test and everything will be fine. I dont know how many miles are on your engine and what not but that same exact thing happened to my altima.

[revsk8erdude]

well the problem isnt really with the oil. i checked it and its reading fine.

and theres nothing dripping.

does anyone know of an air/fuel adjuster for a b16a?

[BTLFED]

Have you checked your grounds and the plug into the alternator? It sounds more like a charging problem than a fuel problem with the light blinking, but it is hard to tell by reading about a problem.

[95alty]

Does it turn over and not crank or it just wont turn over??

[revsk8erdude]

well it varies..

like sometimes it will when its cold, and if its been runnign for a little while it wont..

[kingf22b]

sup dude. sorry to hear ure having trouble with ur new ride. good luck dude.

[Annihilation]

Try Adjusting the Idle screw on the Throttle Body. its a flat head screw right where the intake plugs up . Seems like IDLE is too low. Maybe u tightened the screw when you bolted the TB back on...

Also make sure the plug behind alternator and the power wire is bolted securly

[patrick4588]

adjusting the idle screw should help some. if you have a volt gauge or meter, hook it up to your battery with the car on (engine started). it should read 14+ volts. if not, your battery may be going out. take the battery out of the car and take it up to autozone and they will test it for free.

[Sibious]

umm on that last part kind of confused me but if you put the car in gear and let out the clutch the car will die w/o pressing the gas...

[anothaRRR]

Sounds like there is a bad connection in the alternator or battery...Check all grounds and connections

[revsk8erdude]

thansk for your help everybody!

i adjusted the throttle body and that fixed my idle problem. (BIG reps to Annihilation)

so i got it to idle enough to run.

drove it a short distance to make sure everythign was ok.

park it, walk away and eat lunch.

came back to it and it will turn over but wont run.

after 6 hours of towing and pushing and screaming WTF!, my dad and i came to the conclusion that it was OLD GAS!

he said that since it had sit for 3 years the gas was the casue of the: messed up idle (revving high and then cutting out), not starting the engine, etc.

damn. thats the last thing i would have thought.

DOES ANYONE KNOW WHERE THE FUEL/GAS DRAIN PLUG IS?

would it be underneath the gas tank?

and, i broke the yellow blinker on the right side from towing it. so if anyone has a lens laying around ill take it off your hands.


http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o177/revsk8erdude/100_4421.jpg

its the yellow lens underneath the Si.

[patrick4588]

yeah bad gas is definitely a possibility. i drain my gas if my car sits for 2 months. im not sure where the drain is on a crx, but im sure if you get up under the car you can see it.

[Echonova]

the previous owner looks it at it and says it is running low on oil (oil hose for turbo blew and oil drained out)

i put 4 qts. castrol 10w30.


Please tell me you drained the rest of the oil out first. That being said, there is no drain (that I remember), you have to drop the tank out of the car. Gas starts turning to varnish after 30 days. After three years you're lucky it ran at all.

[IDriveToast]

There's usually not a drain plug on gas tanks simply for the reason of how dangerous it is if it begins to leak.

A quick way to remove the gas from the car is to remove the fuel hose that pumps to the fuel rail and turn the ignition on so the fuel pump just pumps the gas out. Just make sure you have a large enough container to put the fuel into, and make sure you dispose of it properly.

Dropping the tank is another way, however on older cars it can generally be a pain as 99% of the time the bolts, brackets, and clamps are rusted.

[revsk8erdude]

the previous owner looks it at it and says it is running low on oil (oil hose for turbo blew and oil drained out)

i put 4 qts. castrol 10w30.


Please tell me you drained the rest of the oil out first.

umm.

no......


shit.

[revsk8erdude]

There's usually not a drain plug on gas tanks simply for the reason of how dangerous it is if it begins to leak.

A quick way to remove the gas from the car is to remove the fuel hose that pumps to the fuel rail and turn the ignition on so the fuel pump just pumps the gas out. Just make sure you have a large enough container to put the fuel into, and make sure you dispose of it properly.

Dropping the tank is another way, however on older cars it can generally be a pain as 99% of the time the bolts, brackets, and clamps are rusted.

AHH.

this guys a genius.

thank you man.

ill do that.

im so tired of working on this bitch ill take the easiest way out of anything.

lol. and now for some reason my left blinker wont blink. seriously what more can go wrong...

i push the stick down for the left blinker and my CEL, battery, all the lights that are on blink. BUT THE RIGHT ONE WORKS FINE!

im just gonna have it towed and have the shop (Vision Motorsports) keep it untill its completly fixed.

if yall dont know vision, its kitt hocks company. ive heard only good things about em.

[RUSH]

if yall dont know vision, its kitt hocks company. ive heard only good things about em.



lol...yeah cause every car in the shop is his car!
Sorry just had to say that!

[allmotoronly]

yea i guess you should have mentioned that the gas was 3 years old. remove the tank and dump it out. thats the easiest way to do it.

[revsk8erdude]

well i finally got it fixed.

had to hook up a hose to the fuel line and let the fuel pump drain it all out.

haha, yeah thats about right! how the hell did he get a skyline!?!

[revsk8erdude]

nevermind guys. i towed it to a shop. everything is perefct!

[RUSH]

nevermind guys. i towed it to a shop. everything is perefct!




Oh God, What Shop?

[revsk8erdude]

Oh God, What Shop?

perferred european and import

lol, luckiely (spl) for me, he lives withen walking distance of me and goodes houses.

he did a awsome job too. found a LOT of stuff mainstream/turbo dave screwed up.

for one, the MAP sensor was in the wrong fucking place.

the wastegate hose was in the wrong place. (how can you mess that up!?!)

clutch was not adjusted.

idel hoses were in the wrong place.

adjusted the air/fuel

hooked up the shift light

aligned the front tires

and even WASHED it for me!

ALL FOR NO CHARGE!

only thing i have to pay for is a new bov, air filter for the turbo, and a new piller pod for the new AUTOMETER! gauges.

he said he could use some help around his shop and if i do all the actual labor, like installing everything he would get everythign back in the right place for me. a pretty damn good deal if you ask me.

i need a distributor too. the one thats in it is shot to hell.

[Vteckidd]

Im sorry but is this Adam? or did you buy this car from Adam?

IIRC Mainstream did nothing but get the car to run and it dynoed almost 300whp.

Turbo Dave had the car originally, and he never finished it. Mainstream got the car with the motor in it already and 90% of the turbo stuff installed. All mainstream did was TQ headstuds down, run oil lines, and dyno the car.

and IIRC it was over 6 months ago when the car left. why wait till now to say something?

I dont even work there anymore, but i was there when that car was there. It had new gas put in it when scotty dynoed it, and it had a BRAND NEW distributor on it from Distributor king.

care to explain more details?

[wanksta]

why does it matter where the map sensor is, where are idel hose supposed to go, and how do you align tires? some of us are not as car savvy as yourself. please educate us.:wtf:

[Vteckidd]

FYI the wastegate hose cant be in the wrong place. if it is, it does no boost or too much boost.

Again, the car made good power, i remember no problems with it. Clutch wasnt adjusted? IIRC adam drove the car in front of the shop an then drove it all the way home.

[wanksta]

props to vteckidd for stating the facts and stopping uninformed shop bashing. good job

[Vteckidd]

its Mr. Kidd

but thanks anyway. This guy made a thread in the Mainstream forum earlier. it just sounds like he bought this car from the original owner, and now hes bitching about it after taking it to antoher place MONTHS later. hes not providing any info. and he doesnt seem to know anything.

its just pure stupidity unless he posts some magical info we dont know about

[wanksta]

my mistake "mr.kidd". sounded like bull to me too. good thing no one told him that mainstream improperly installed his muffler bearing.

[wanksta]

im not trying to noob bash cuz im one too, but dont bash a reputable when you dont know what your talking about. peace

[revsk8erdude]

i bought it from adam.

although the work done by mainstream was much less than what we expected, thats not what im ranting about.

i was pissed that turbo dave screwed him over and took all the money adam paid him for parts and bought other shit with it, never got the job done, and the only reason he got it when he did is because he was going to bring legal action against turbo dave/mainstream.

you can quote me on this.

IT LITTERALLY SAT UNDER A TREE FOR 2 YEARS.

seems like everyone was more interested in the money than actually doing the work.

yeah he drove it in front of the shop and and on the way home, IT FUCKING DIED!

im bringing it up now, because i just recently bought the car.

[revsk8erdude]

what im mostly pissed about is that, mainstream (being such the reputable company that they are) are working with a jerk off like turbo dave.

i think that if adam brought straight to mainstream, it would have got in, got fixed, got out, and everyone would be happy.

so if theres any mainstream guys that are taking it personally... dont.

its 99.9% daves fault.

but still....

mainstream could have gone the extra mile for all the shit he had to go through.

[Vteckidd]

So why did Adam never bring this up? he never called Mainstream when i worked there. The car made 300whp, im sure someone over there can pull the dyno chart.

The car was given to Turbo Dave, what he did with it is none of my business or anyone elses except for HIM and ADAM. That includes you. Let Adam fight his own battles.

Adam contacted Mainstream abouit fixing the CRX. I know cause i USED to work there. I talked with adam through the whole process.

When the car came to us, it was in pieces, but the motor an the turbo kit was installed. it has sat for some time, the hood wouldnt latch, the car was soaked in tree sap. it was in rough shape.

IIRC it sat behind mainstream for quite some time while adam got money together.

Finally it was done , adam picked it up, drove it in front of the shop, we told him his brakes were "iffy" and he paid his bill, left, and we never heard from him again.

He paid Mainstream to finish installing the turbo kit, an to dyno tune it, that was done an paid for. We werent responsible for anything else on the car.

Now, i no longer work for mainstream, and i really shouldnt be sticking up for them like this, but i remember alot about that car, and what was happening with it.

Now there may have been problems with Turbo Dave BEFORE with the CRX. But that again should be taken up with Turbo Dave directly. and it should be taken up by ADAM, not some new owner of the car MONTHS after it was delivered.

Basically, your complaining about a car that was paid for, signed for, and taken MONTHS ago by a different owner. So it gives you ZERO credibility to come in here and say how bad the job was or how shitty it was.

You dont like turbo dave, great, call them up an talk to them. But dont bash a site sponsor based on some half assed information.

Now if adam wants to come in here an post something, im all ears.

[mb goode]

Um, personaly i say everyone shut up and leave this alone as it was a long time ago and i personaly have moved on to better things. U guys can rant about it all u want but dont expect me to contribute to the conversation cas to tell u the truth i dont care anymore... lol

[Killer]

Ian, mr. kidd is right... for the most part this has nothing to do with msp...

second of all... like he stated you bought the car from adam.. adam had the work done.. NOT YOU!

third... you are in the same boat i was in... you're a noob to the car world... something went wrong on my old hatch every week... and i had to learn how to fix it myself... hell had it been turbo'd i prolly never would have figured it out....

i'd be willing to bet half the problems you're having you've caused... by not reinstalling things correctly... I'VE DONE IT!!!! i warped my valves after buying a new head and replacing my old one... then i had to pay 1300 bucks to get it done professionally...

you live you learn... man... and you being 16/17 or whatever... you're gonna have plenty of car problems in your future...


you knew the car had problems when you bought it from goode... if you didn't you're retarded... like you stated THE THING DIED ON IT'S FIRST DRIVE HOME!!! so don't get on here complaining about shops/sponsors/people who worked on the car when you were fully aware of it's needs..

now like i've told you before... you ever need my help with it.. i've learned my way around honda engines pretty well within the last year... hit me up!

[Killer]

Um, personaly i say everyone shut up and leave this alone as it was a long time ago and i personaly have moved on to better things. U guys can rant about it all u want but dont expect me to contribute to the conversation cas to tell u the truth i dont care anymore... lol

GOODE YOU ****** LOVIN SON OF A BITCH!! HOLLER AT ME! I THOUGHT YOU DIED MAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

seriously, call me this week!!!!

[Killer]

all of mountainboost is in this thread btw... lol!

[mb goode]

And the car didnt have problems when i sold it to Ian, it did however when i picked it up but i chose to fix those myself instead of bothering to take it back to atlanta. When the car was sold it needed an alternator. period.

[mb goode]

GOODE YOU ****** LOVIN SON OF A BITCH!! HOLLER AT ME! I THOUGHT YOU DIED MAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

seriously, call me this week!!!!

Killer u son of a nasty whore, lets eat some Kani or something im hungry...

[Killer]

Killer u son of a nasty whore, lets eat some Kani or something im hungry...


WORD!!! you say when and i'm there!!!!

[revsk8erdude]

dont get the wrong idea or anything. i respect MSP, but i was aiming the bullet at turbo dave.

he messed the stuff up. not MSP.

[Killer]

dont get the wrong idea or anything. i respect MSP, but i was aiming the bullet at turbo dave.

he messed the stuff up. not MSP.

good boy... tuck tail and run....

[Vteckidd]

im locking this thread for now. If MSPi would like to respond they can contact me