Car shopping is the most frustrating thing ever.

[4bangin]

There are just too many cars now, geez. After banging your head against the wall trying to decide what kind of car you want, you still have to go through the trouble of finding on for a fair price that isnt a POS. This is really irritating.

[civic95]

Hard part for me is I know exactly what I want. It's just out of my price range, so I'll stick with the civic for now.

[4dmin]

Hard part for me is I know exactly what I want. It's just out of my price range, so I'll stick with the civic for now.

:werd:

[bigb996]

i find it very stressful myself, im glad i finally got done iwth it.

[Kristi]

tell me about it - i figured out what kind of car i want - so now i have to find one! i swear, its worse than finding a house to buy!

[Spyder]

I didnt have a hard time at all.. i knew what type of car i wanted, i knew what color i wanted, i knew what price range i new that it had to be a manual.. i just had to find a place that had it at a reasonable price. once i did the rest was easy...

[Kristi]

welp, i am about where you were - i want a 4 runner, auto, know the price range, and it needs to be a color other than white, beige, maroon, or red :D

[Kevykev]

Wonder when i'll be car shopping agian..

hmmmm..

Good luck though man!

[Spyder]

i was just thinking about it.. i even know what my next car will be ... i just bought my current one but in 3-4 years..... muhahahahaha.

[Julio]

when you know your budget... and when you know what you are looking for..shouldnt be a problem....

[Julio]

My next car will be a BMW/LEX/MERCEDES or something around that field... a couple of more years or so... More Luxury/Confort then anything else...... Was close to buying a lexus.. but decided to wait.... Was tempting though.. When the carmax salesman told me.. You got approve for anything on the lot.... But a daily driver was more important for now..

[Eli]

i love car shopping, i dunno, its all a game though.

[flysi00]

There are just too many cars now, geez. After banging your head against the wall trying to decide what kind of car you want, you still have to go through the trouble of finding on for a fair price that isnt a POS. This is really irritating.

lol i know what u mean

[SaraX5]

i love car shopping too! i dont find it stressful.. I thought i knew what i wanted till i drove it and saw the interior and thats when I changed my mind completely and went for something opposite.

[SwiftGTiRacer]

Its deffiently a game. I just hate dealing with sales men, no offence, thesalesmanager. I hate having to sit in an office for an entire day filling out paper work and etc. Other than that, everything else is kinda easy unless you can't decide on which car you want more.

Swifty

[4bangin]

when you know your budget... and when you know what you are looking for..shouldnt be a problem....

It's never that easy for me I guess. I always know my budget, in this case, 30k. I want something that will be fun to drive out of the box, but potential for mods if I ever get bitten by that bug again. I don't want it to be some POS. So, I could spend close to my 30, or buy a cheaper car and mod the hell out of it. There are SO many cars that cost under 30k it almost sucks. I could easily list 20 cars.

[civic95]

Start driving some of them. that will definitely help narrow your choices down.

[flysi00]

buy a ............................

[Brandon C]

WELL ALL I HAVE TO SAY IS IT SHOULD NOT BE THAT HARD MY CUSTOMERS GENERALLY ARE IN AND OUT WITHIN AN HOUR BUT USUALLY AT THERE PACE. I DONT TRY AND SELL I JUST SHOW WHAT WE HAVE AND WHAT I CAN GET AND THATS ALL. I BROKER ABOUT 10 CARS A MONTH AS I SELL THEM CHEAPER THAT WAY THAN ANY OTHER DEALERSHIP CAN AND MOST PRIVATE PARTYS AS WELL(799 OVER COST) IF YOU REALLY WANT ADVICE I SAY GO BUY CARMAX OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT DRIVE A FEW SEE WHAT YOU WANT THEN CALL ME, LIKE I SAID WE GENERALLY CAN BEAT CARMAX BY 2G'S OR SO. I HAVE PERSONALLY BOUGHT 4 CARS FROM MY LOT IN THE LAST YEAR FOR MYSELF..SORRY HAVE A BAD HABIT OF SELLING MY PERSONAL CARS FOR MORE THAN I PAYED FOR THEM. BUT LIKE JULIO SAID RESEARCH THE CARS YOU LIKE A BIGGY IS MAINTENCE VS. REPAIR AS WELL AS RELIABILITY...CONSUMER REPORTS...

[Kristi]

do you have any 03-present 4 runners? if so, i'd be interested!

[Brandon C]

NOT ON THE LOT BUT I SEE THEM ALL THE TIME LIKE I SAID WE GO GET THE CAR YOU WANT FOR $799 OVER COST THAT'S IT.....WHICH 03 4 RUNNER YOU WANT...MODEL/MILES/COLOR ETC..YOU TELL ME AND I WILL POST UP WHAT THERE SELLING FOR....

[Spyder]

It's never that easy for me I guess. I always know my budget, in this case, 30k. I want something that will be fun to drive out of the box, but potential for mods if I ever get bitten by that bug again. I don't want it to be some POS. So, I could spend close to my 30, or buy a cheaper car and mod the hell out of it. There are SO many cars that cost under 30k it almost sucks. I could easily list 20 cars.

simple really.. lets fill out a couple simple questions and i bet you end up with the same car i did..

do you want a manual or an auto?
do you want cloth or leather interior?
what exterior color do you want?
what interior color do you want?
sunroof ,convertable or hardtop?
performance or economy?
what drive configuration fwd,rwd,awd?

awnser those few and it will really narrow it down..

[Kristi]

NOT ON THE LOT BUT I SEE THEM ALL THE TIME LIKE I SAID WE GO GET THE CAR YOU WANT FOR $799 OVER COST THAT'S IT.....WHICH 03 4 RUNNER YOU WANT...MODEL/MILES/COLOR ETC..YOU TELL ME AND I WILL POST UP WHAT THERE SELLING FOR....

i would prefer a dark grey/dark silver one, with alloys - preferrably no leather (i hate leather), preferrably a sunroof. low miles (below like 50K)

price is important - i don't want my payments higher than what they are now and i will also have to sell the max - but i really want a 4runner!

[Brandon C]

OK HERE IS WHAT THERE SELLING FOR.....

2003 4runner 2wd v-6 SR5
Above cond. Average Cond. Below Condition
Sale Price $21,566 $19,000 $16,434
Mileage 18,551 33,726 48,901

2003 4runner 2wd V-6 Limited
Above Average Below
Sale Price $27,552 $25,806 $24,060
Mileage 16,537 31,447 46,357

THESE ARE ACUTUALL MARKET AVERAGE'S FOR THIS WEEK...

NOW AD SALES TAX PLUS $799 AND YOU CAN FIGURE OUT WHAT IT WOULD COST YOU...

POST SALE RESULTS: CARS THAT ACTUALLY SOLD AT THE DEALER ONLY SALE'S:
TOYOTA TK 4 RUNNER 4X2 LIMITED 2003 SILVER 4 8 Gas A CD MR L 46690 $23500
TOYOTA TK 4 RUNNER 4X2 LIMITED 2003 BLACK 4 6 Gas A CD MR L 27824 $25400
TOYOTA TK 4 RUNNER 4X2 SR5 2003 BLUE 4 8 Gas A Y CD HT C 24315 $20500
TOYOTA TK 4 RUNNER 4X2 SR5 2004 SILVER 4 6 Gas A Y CD C 14402 $22200
TOYOTA TK 4 RUNNER 4X2 LIMITED 2003 BLACK 4 8 Gas A B SR L 53231 $25100
TOYOTA TK 4 RUNNER 4X2 LIMITED 2003 SILVER 4 8 Gas A B SR L 18494 $25800
TOYOTA TK 4 RUNNER 4X2 LIMITED 2003 GRAY 4 6 Gas A B SR L 28259 $25700
TOYOTA TK 4 RUNNER 4X2 SR5 2004 BLACK 4 6 Gas A Y CD HT C 26548 $21500
TOYOTA TK 4 RUNNER 4X4 SR5 2004 BEIGE 4 6 Gas A Y Y CD HT C 33804 $19800
TOYOTA TK 4 RUNNER 4X4 SR5 2004 SILVER 4 6 Gas A Y Y CD C 26654 $21600


now mind you that all these cars were sold by Toyota at the auction as Off lease cars...

Call me if you need more help

[Kristi]

i would want the sr5 - thats more in my price range

[Brandon C]

no problem come see me as I said I could Have bought any of these cars..

[99ITRGIRL]

yea, it can very well be

[Kristi]

ok, i will come by there when i get a chance

what are your typical hours?

[Brandon C]

MON THRU SAT 9 TO 7 AND SUNDAY 10- 5

[Kristi]

damn, you work as much as me! haha, you aren't too far from my work and can be on my way home, so i will try to stop by. thanks for all your help!

[CMO]

lol, I see your going through this again. I've known 4bangin for atleast 2yrs or more now and I've watched him go through this before. He'll find something he likes buy it, drive the shit out of it for about 3mons then get tired of it. It's gonna be hard for him to find a car that he'll be happy with for a year or more.

[flysi00]

damn chris thread got hijacked

[Darling Nikki]

I knew what I wanted. I just waited till I found the right one and color.

[4bangin]

simple really.. lets fill out a couple simple questions and i bet you end up with the same car i did..

do you want a manual or an auto?
do you want cloth or leather interior?
what exterior color do you want?
what interior color do you want?
sunroof ,convertable or hardtop?
performance or economy?
what drive configuration fwd,rwd,awd?

awnser those few and it will really narrow it down..

Manual
Doesnt matter
Doesnt matter
Prefer hardtop, would take convertable in a few cars (roadsters)
Performance
Doesnt matter

So, it is still tough for me heh. I am not picky, but at the same time I am. It's weird. I'm just a pain in the ass.

[Spyder]

Manual
Doesnt matter
Doesnt matter
Prefer hardtop, would take convertable in a few cars (roadsters)
Performance
Doesnt matter

So, it is still tough for me heh. I am not picky, but at the same time I am. It's weird. I'm just a pain in the ass.

yes you are lol.. but here ya go.


M3 hard top.
http://autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.jsp?rdpage=thumb&car_id=183135483&dealer_id=56377448&car_year=1999&make=BMW&distance=100&lang=en&max_price=30000&model=M3&end_year=2006&min_price=20&certified=&address=30096&search_type=both&advanced=&start_year=1981&isp=y&cardist=18#vdptop

M3 convertable

330i
http://autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.jsp?car_id=185665834&dealer_id=1076641&car_year=2002&make=BMW&distance=100&lang=en&max_price=30000&model=330I&end_year=2006&min_price=1&certified=&address=30096&search_type=both&advanced=&start_year=1981&isp=y&cardist=36

M coupe- my vote as far as Bimmers...
http://autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.jsp?car_id=185066524&dealer_id=87916&car_year=1999&make=BMW&distance=100&lang=en&max_price=30000&model=BMWMCOUPE&end_year=2006&min_price=1&certified=&address=30096&search_type=both&advanced=&start_year=1981&isp=y&cardist=23

Z3
http://autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.jsp?car_id=185267157&dealer_id=96633&car_year=2002&make=BMW&distance=100&lang=en&max_price=&model=Z3&end_year=2006&min_price=&certified=&address=30096&search_type=both&advanced=&start_year=1981&isp=y&cardist=19

Audi A4 quattro, 6 speed

http://autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.jsp?car_id=183190020&dealer_id=1347076&car_year=2004&make=AUDI&distance=100&lang=en&max_price=30000&model=&end_year=2006&min_price=1&certified=&address=30096&search_type=both&advanced=&start_year=1981&isp=y&cardist=23

TT roadster quattro ,6 speed
http://autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.jsp?car_id=184500016&dealer_id=1347076&car_year=2001&make=AUDI&distance=100&lang=en&max_price=30000&model=&end_year=2006&min_price=1&certified=&address=30096&search_type=both&advanced=&start_year=1981&isp=y&cardist=23

TT coupe , 5 speed
http://autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.jsp?car_id=182722455&dealer_id=1347076&car_year=2001&make=AUDI&distance=100&lang=en&max_price=30000&model=&end_year=2006&min_price=1&certified=&address=30096&search_type=both&advanced=&start_year=1981&isp=y&cardist=23

GTI 1.8T
http://autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.jsp?car_id=184420845&dealer_id=42571771&car_year=2003&make=VOLKS&distance=100&lang=en&max_price=30000&model=GTI&end_year=2006&min_price=1&certified=&address=30096&search_type=both&advanced=&start_year=1981&isp=y&cardist=13

VR6 jetta

http://autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.jsp?car_id=182714828&dealer_id=42571771&car_year=2001&search_type=both&make=VOLKS&model=JET&transmission=Manual&distance=100&address=30096&advanced=&certified=&max_price=30000&min_price=1&end_year=2006&color=&start_year=1981&color3=&color2=&isp=y&engine=&fuel=Gasoline&lang=en&cardist=13

1.8t jetta
http://autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.jsp?car_id=183970722&dealer_id=42860555&car_year=2005&search_type=both&make=VOLKS&model=JET&transmission=Manual&distance=100&address=30096&advanced=&certified=&max_price=30000&min_price=1&end_year=2006&color=&start_year=1981&color3=&color2=&isp=y&engine=&fuel=Gasoline&lang=en&cardist=92

R32-again my vote for vDub
http://autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.jsp?car_id=180055977&dealer_id=54999171&car_year=2004&make=VOLKS&distance=300&lang=en&max_price=50000&model=R32&end_year=2006&min_price=1&certified=&address=30096&search_type=both&advanced=&start_year=1981&isp=y&cardist=297

IS300
http://autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.jsp?car_id=185049646&dealer_id=56534619&car_year=2003&adCertifiedCheck=n&search_type=both&make=LEXUS&model=IS300&transmission=Manual&distance=300&address=30096&advanced=&certified=&carfaxGeneric=false&max_price=30000&min_price=1&end_year=2006&color=&start_year=1981&color3=&car_year=2001&color2=&isp=y&engine=&fuel=Gasoline&lang=en&cardist=26

STI
http://autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.jsp?car_id=183302495&dealer_id=39517224&car_year=2004&make=SUB&distance=300&lang=en&max_price=30000&model=IMPREZ&end_year=2006&min_price=1&certified=&address=30096&search_type=both&advanced=&start_year=1981&isp=y&cardist=0

C5
http://autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.jsp?car_id=185065975&dealer_id=66469&car_year=2000&search_type=both&make=CHEV&model=CORV&transmission=Manual&distance=300&address=30096&advanced=&certified=&max_price=30000&min_price=1&end_year=2006&color=&start_year=1981&color3=&color2=&isp=y&engine=&lang=en&cardist=26

Lotus Esprit?
http://autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.jsp?car_id=182846324&dealer_id=581546&car_year=1993&make=LOTUS&distance=300&lang=en&max_price=30000&model=&end_year=2006&min_price=1&certified=&address=30096&search_type=both&advanced=&start_year=1981&isp=y&cardist=10

Supra
http://autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.jsp?car_id=182781550&dealer_id=56345460&car_year=1997&search_type=both&make=TOYOTA&model=SUPRA&sponsorModel=&transmission=Manual&distance=300&address=30096&advanced=&certified=&max_price=30000&min_price=1&end_year=2006&color=&start_year=1981&color3=&color2=&isp=y&engine=&lang=en&cardist=190

MR2?
http://autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.jsp?car_id=184561209&dealer_id=56497713&car_year=1991&make=TOYOTA&distance=300&lang=en&max_price=30000&model=MR2&sponsorModel=&end_year=2006&min_price=1&certified=&address=30096&search_type=both&advanced=&start_year=1981&isp=y&cardist=300

G35 6 Speed

http://autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.jsp?car_id=183073849&dealer_id=3334372&car_year=2004&search_type=both&make=any&transmission=Manual&distance=100&address=30096&only_price=1&advanced=&certified=&max_price=30000&min_price=20000&end_year=2006&color=&start_year=2000&color3=&color2=&isp=y&engine=&fuel=Gasoline&lang=en&cardist=0

Boxter
http://autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.jsp?car_id=185753671&dealer_id=764337&car_year=2001&search_type=both&make=any&transmission=Manual&distance=100&address=30096&only_price=1&advanced=&certified=&max_price=30000&min_price=20000&end_year=2006&color=&start_year=2000&color3=&color2=&isp=y&engine=&fuel=Gasoline&lang=en&cardist=23

SLK230
http://autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.jsp?car_id=171149530&dealer_id=76633&car_year=2002&search_type=both&make=any&transmission=Manual&distance=100&address=30096&only_price=1&advanced=&certified=&max_price=30000&min_price=20000&end_year=2006&color=&start_year=2000&color3=&color2=&isp=y&engine=&fuel=Gasoline&lang=en&cardist=19

3.2 TL
http://autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.jsp?car_id=184192291&dealer_id=79311&car_year=2004&adCertifiedCheck=n&search_type=both&make=any&transmission=Manual&distance=100&address=30096&only_price=1&advanced=&certified=&carfaxGeneric=false&max_price=30000&min_price=20000&end_year=2006&color=&start_year=2000&color3=&color2=&car_year=2002&isp=y&engine=&fuel=Gasoline&lang=en&cardist=79

Maxima 6 speed
http://autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.jsp?car_id=185638637&dealer_id=1328983&car_year=2005&adCertifiedCheck=n&search_type=both&make=any&transmission=Manual&distance=100&address=30096&only_price=1&advanced=&certified=&carfaxGeneric=false&max_price=30000&min_price=20000&end_year=2006&color=&start_year=2000&color3=&color2=&car_year=2002&isp=y&engine=&fuel=Gasoline&lang=en&cardist=10

350Z
http://autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.jsp?car_id=185638638&dealer_id=1328983&car_year=2004&adCertifiedCheck=n&search_type=both&make=any&transmission=Manual&distance=100&address=30096&only_price=1&advanced=&certified=&carfaxGeneric=false&max_price=30000&min_price=20000&first_record=26&end_year=2006&color=&start_year=2000&color3=&car_year=2002&color2=&isp=y&pager.offset=25&engine=&lang=en&fuel=Gasoline&cardist=10

EVO
http://autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.jsp?car_id=176320815&dealer_id=86352&car_year=2003&adCertifiedCheck=n&search_type=both&make=any&transmission=Manual&distance=100&address=30096&only_price=1&advanced=&certified=&carfaxGeneric=false&max_price=30000&min_price=20000&first_record=26&end_year=2006&color=&start_year=2000&color3=&car_year=2002&color2=&isp=y&pager.offset=25&engine=&lang=en&fuel=Gasoline&cardist=26

S2K
http://autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.jsp?car_id=183273224&dealer_id=67528&car_year=2003&adCertifiedCheck=n&search_type=both&make=any&transmission=Manual&distance=100&address=30096&only_price=1&advanced=&certified=&carfaxGeneric=false&max_price=30000&min_price=20000&first_record=26&end_year=2006&color=&start_year=2000&color3=&car_year=2002&color2=&isp=y&pager.offset=25&engine=&lang=en&fuel=Gasoline&cardist=10

S60
http://autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.jsp?car_id=182547884&dealer_id=1383818&car_year=2005&adCertifiedCheck=n&search_type=both&make=any&distance=100&transmission=Manual&address=30096&only_price=1&certified=&advanced=&carfaxGeneric=false&max_price=30000&min_price=20000&first_record=26&end_year=2006&color=&start_year=2000&color3=&car_year=2002&color2=&isp=y&pager.offset=25&engine=&lang=en&fuel=Gasoline&cardist=13

Z06 (yea i know i already did a C5)
http://autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.jsp?car_id=184055578&dealer_id=72539&car_year=2001&adCertifiedCheck=n&search_type=both&make=any&transmission=Manual&distance=100&address=30096&only_price=1&advanced=&certified=&carfaxGeneric=false&max_price=30000&min_price=20000&first_record=51&end_year=2006&color=&start_year=2000&color3=&color2=&car_year=2002&isp=y&pager.offset=50&engine=&fuel=Gasoline&lang=en&cardist=18

mini?
http://autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.jsp?car_id=185469001&dealer_id=23749897&car_year=2005&adCertifiedCheck=n&search_type=both&make=any&distance=100&transmission=Manual&address=30096&only_price=1&certified=&advanced=&carfaxGeneric=false&max_price=30000&min_price=20000&first_record=76&end_year=2006&color=&start_year=2000&color3=&car_year=2002&color2=&isp=y&pager.offset=75&engine=&lang=en&fuel=Gasoline&cardist=10

RX8
http://autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.jsp?car_id=183570354&dealer_id=56411700&car_year=2004&adCertifiedCheck=n&search_type=both&make=any&distance=100&transmission=Manual&address=30096&only_price=1&certified=&advanced=&carfaxGeneric=false&max_price=30000&min_price=20000&first_record=101&end_year=2006&color=&start_year=2000&color3=&color2=&car_year=2002&isp=y&pager.offset=100&engine=&fuel=Gasoline&lang=en&cardist=56

That should give you a good start...

[flysi00]

GOD DAMN he did all the work for u chris u should get a STI

[4bangin]

Damn, thanks Spyder Man! Some of those were awesome suggestions that never crossed my mind before. As of right now I am mostly trying to figure out what type of performance I want. I am leaning towards an open track/auto-x type car, which a e36 m3 is on the top of my list. If I decide to get a more drag oriented car I will just keep my mr2. It isnt really made for drag, but it is already built and wouldnt need much to be alot faster. I decided to keep my daily driver for awhile so whatever I get doesnt have to be one. Thanks again though, that was awesome. I'm going to look into a few of those that I wasnt thinking about before.

[Brandon C]

once you find what you want and call me I will hook you up...

[Spyder]

Damn, thanks Spyder Man! Some of those were awesome suggestions that never crossed my mind before. As of right now I am mostly trying to figure out what type of performance I want. I am leaning towards an open track/auto-x type car, which a e36 m3 is on the top of my list. If I decide to get a more drag oriented car I will just keep my mr2. It isnt really made for drag, but it is already built and wouldnt need much to be alot faster. I decided to keep my daily driver for awhile so whatever I get doesnt have to be one. Thanks again though, that was awesome. I'm going to look into a few of those that I wasnt thinking about before.

no worries man, you said:


I want something that will be fun to drive out of the box, but potential for mods if I ever get bitten by that bug again. I don't want it to be some POS.


So as I made that list I kept it in mind. I should have just posted a damn E36 M3 because that is something alot of us would love to have. it will be my next car unless i decide to go for the E46 M3. The only reason i didnt buy one this time around was because maintnance is a bitch on Bimmers and everything is so pickey and expensive.

Be sure to take a look at the R32 vDub i posted. Compare it realistically to the M3. It makes more power, it is a 6 speed and its AWD. oh.. and it weighs about the same. Plus with a *little* work it is over 300 AWHP. imo one of the baddest cars on the street.

Im a huge BMW fan, and now a pretty big VDub fan as they are fun to drive and yet reliable as the day they are new as long as you follow the proper upgrade path.

Good luck with your decision as the time approaches, i have driven every single one of these cars and know the pros and cons of each.

[flysi00]

yeah chris look into the m3 or a STI

[99ITRGIRL]

yeah chris look into the m3 or a STI
yea, any of those whould kick it!!