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civ97
07-29-2007, 10:45 AM
I have been thinking it over. I have gone back and forth tryin to decide if I wanted to go all motor or turbo. I finally decided that I want to boost my car in the future!!! Now the only questions that remain are how can I afford the parts, and where can I get cheap but quality parts?


BUT..... I one question I really need answered is... What sort of things should I do to my d16y8 in order for my car to perform the best with a turbo?:???:

Such as should I get new pistons, cams, rods, sleeves, or what?

I don't wanna go swap though.

civ97
07-29-2007, 11:09 AM
bump

SoLJames95
07-29-2007, 01:59 PM
Depends, are you lookin to get alot of hp, or are you just lookin for just a lil extra? Thats what needs to be answered.

vubuilt
07-29-2007, 04:37 PM
you can also start here http://www.turbod16.com/

you dont really have to do anything internally if ur under 10psi. i would recommend dsm 450cc injectors ($50), resistor box ($20), and chipped p28 ($100-$150) for tuning though :)

Vteckidd
07-29-2007, 05:30 PM
stock y8s can get around 200-220whp reliably on a stock motor. you need to make sure your motor is in good shape and all reg maintanence performed.

sleepys4
07-29-2007, 05:37 PM
Thanks for this info. I has a similar question in a different thread. Reps.

civ97
07-29-2007, 05:58 PM
I plan on having somewhere around 350hp, so what should I have for that?

1zach4
07-29-2007, 08:17 PM
could have this answered at home genious....

For 350whp on a d-series you can do a few things:

Darton/ERL/Golden Eagle sleeves
Forged Pistons
Forged H-beams (block needs to be notched)
EMS
Headwork

Or

Blockguard instead of sleeves with everything else mentioned above

Or

Factory sleeves with everything else mentioned above

Or

Completely Stock






You can accomplish your goal of 350whp on a d16y8 with any of the above options, but in order for it to be reliable and last you need to have it tuned tuned tuned tuned tuned tuned tuned tuned tuned

Without a good/excellent tune you really should stick to the first option

1zach4
07-29-2007, 08:17 PM
Oh and let's be honest...it's gonna be a few years until you can afford even the last option if you have it done right

civ97
07-29-2007, 08:46 PM
Anyone else have any suggestions?

1zach4
07-29-2007, 08:47 PM
you don't need any other suggestions lol

civ97
07-29-2007, 10:07 PM
Fine then!!!! lol But if anyone else has something for me let me know. bump

SoLJames95
07-30-2007, 12:03 AM
All in all Im always behind a fellow Dseries builder. Hope everything goes well if u get it going. +1

JDM onlyy
07-30-2007, 02:17 AM
Fine then!!!! lol But if anyone else has something for me let me know. bump

Yeah, you're looking at cams, lower compression pistons, better rods...don't have to get sleeves but recommend it. injectors, get TUNED ASAP! should be good...i think. might be forgetting something. i'm tired and can't think straight..lol

Allstar3.8T
07-30-2007, 08:34 AM
If you've honestly never had 200 WHP in a honda, you dont need 350. 200 WHP in a civic is a fast car, not a 10 sec car, but a stout driver that is ALOT of fun on the street. I suggest you start small, achievable. Yes, you spend money twice if you do decide later to go for the 350whp, but most people who dream too big get nothing, its better to achieve a little, learn and rebuild, than to dream big wanna spend $ that really isnt there, and never have anything at all. Also, if you wanna go 350 whp, a d-series isnt the best platform to start with.... why not go ahead and do a LS block, B16 head w/ bolt ons, get 180-190 whp, and then boost later to get 300+?!!

civ97
07-30-2007, 10:00 PM
Thanks!!! I appreciate all of the suggestions. Im not really lookin to swap anything, but it is in the back of my mind! If anyone thinks of anything else let me know. Last question, wheres the best place to get my car tuned? bump

LSTurboHatch
07-31-2007, 10:32 AM
the cheapest setup that has been proven time and time again is the Eagle/ Vitara setup with ARP headstuds and a new headgasket. 460 horsepower has been made and there are several people with 400+ on mustang dynos making this power. ya thats right stock intake manifold, TB, Head, and Sleeves.
Eagle H-beam rods- 300
Vitara pistons from FJT on d-series or turbod16-135
bearings-50
ARPs-95
Cometic-95

thats 675 to have a built engine(not including machine work) that is proven to work. which is very affordable to me.

slow_hatch
07-31-2007, 10:47 AM
I'd just go ahead and piece together a good kit, good fuel managment, and maybe a T3. You be in the 200hp range, which is fast for not having already had a boosted honda. That way down the road all you'd need for more power would be a built motor and maybe a bigger turbo. You'd already have the manifold for a T3/T4 too.

civ97
07-31-2007, 11:33 AM
Thanks!!! That helps a lot! If there is anything else, just let me know. ttt

Autoworks
08-01-2007, 08:39 AM
The 350whp is very achievable, it has been done a countless number of times.
The cheapest was (as lsturbohatch) mentioned it the Vitara/Eagle rod combo for the block. You can use the stock head, but you can also upgrade to the Zex/Comp cam with springs and retainers to get it there a bit easier.
Keep the D series...you'll surprise most people when you murder them at the track w/ a single cam.

As for kits we offer several kits built to the customers specs.

revsk8erdude
08-01-2007, 09:37 AM
check out ebay. they have turbo parts out the ass.

LSTurboHatch
08-01-2007, 12:11 PM
^^^ on that. the wastegates, BOVs, intercoolers, and piping are ok. DO NOT use ching chong ebay turbos or SSAC, xspower, or OBX turbo manifolds. sometimes you get lucky with them but usually they will fail and be a waste of money.

Autoworks
08-01-2007, 01:18 PM
don't use the ebay wastegates.

Buy a quality part once and be done with it...the little bit you save buying the knock off will end up being spent plus some when it comes time to replace it do to it breaking, leaking, or not holding pressure.

I will give the FMIC's a :goodjob: for moderate WHP setups

scttydb411
08-01-2007, 03:00 PM
don't use the ebay wastegates.

Buy a quality part once and be done with it...the little bit you save buying the knock off will end up being spent plus some when it comes time to replace it do to it breaking, leaking, or not holding pressure.

I will give the FMIC's a :goodjob: for moderate WHP setups

i would agree with that. i've seen some nice fmic from a lot of those discount turbokit sellers, but the rest of the kit sucks.

boost the d stock, enjoy 200-220 then built the bottom end. i recommend eagles, scat, or tuner toys (don't know if they still offer them) and srp or better pistons. true, you can use vitaras, but after machining them and the lower compression you get i think you're better off w/ a 9:1 or even 9.5:1 setup on a d-series.

slow_hatch
08-01-2007, 06:08 PM
i would agree with that. i've seen some nice fmic from a lot of those discount turbokit sellers, but the rest of the kit sucks.

boost the d stock, enjoy 200-220 then built the bottom end. i recommend eagles, scat, or tuner toys (don't know if they still offer them) and srp or better pistons. true, you can use vitaras, but after machining them and the lower compression you get i think you're better off w/ a 9:1 or even 9.5:1 setup on a d-series.


And definatly let this guy /\ /\ /\ tune it for you :goodjob: :yes:

civ97
08-01-2007, 08:35 PM
Thanks yall have been a lot of help!!! Just let me know if yall have anymore ideas or suggestions. bump

Autoworks
08-02-2007, 10:07 AM
i would agree with that. i've seen some nice fmic from a lot of those discount turbokit sellers, but the rest of the kit sucks.

boost the d stock, enjoy 200-220 then built the bottom end. i recommend eagles, scat, or tuner toys (don't know if they still offer them) and srp or better pistons. true, you can use vitaras, but after machining them and the lower compression you get i think you're better off w/ a 9:1 or even 9.5:1 setup on a d-series.
:goodjob: agreed. I have had great results from CPs. I run the 9:1 CPs in my Z6.

LSTurboHatch
08-02-2007, 01:23 PM
^^^ 9:1 wisecos here and they are working decent. we will see how they handle a beating when i get tuned next week.

SL65AMG
08-02-2007, 09:52 PM
I plan on having somewhere around 350hp, so what should I have for that?

i wouldnt push that kind of power on a stock d series.... but then again thats me. people here have WAYYYYYYYYY more experience w/ these engines than i do. but just for the sake of reliability and durability i would at least sleeve the block and some headwork

sleeved block
titanium valves/valvejob
high pressure springs
cam
port/polish

id go through the engine and check the rings and bearings and id definitely put ALL new gaskets. but that never hurts to do for anything.


then again if you have a lot of money and dont mind shit breaking then do what you will with the motor...


but thats just my :2cents:

civ97
08-03-2007, 11:31 AM
Well I currently dont have much money, im tryin to fix my car from the wreck it was just in. I'm tryin to get my radiator support welded in but Voungy Dongs welder broke. So I'm stranded!!!! But if there is anything else... just let me know.

Autoworks
08-03-2007, 10:10 PM
Don't waste your money on sleeving the block for goals less than 400whp.

SoLJames95
08-14-2007, 02:04 AM
Don't waste your money on sleeving the block for goals less than 400whp.

x2 True, you can use block guard cheaper and Durable for those goals.

İhris
08-14-2007, 09:20 AM
Edlee's boosted Sol its rediculous... once boost kicks in you definatly get pulled back into your seat nicely

drpepper14
08-19-2007, 10:34 PM
just make sure it is tuned properly and you should be set

Andy_013
08-19-2007, 11:40 PM
PM DB8-2NVY for turbo kits.
Andrew can get you one for a good price.

Andy_013
08-19-2007, 11:51 PM
Edlee's boosted Sol its rediculous... once boost kicks in you definatly get pulled back into your seat nicely
Edlee has a b16 in his sol

1SOL2NV
08-20-2007, 01:08 AM
Edlee has a b16 in his sol now b16 have single cam ??????? of course i only seen pics ...... he might have changed from a d16 to b16 that quick ?????????

İhris
08-20-2007, 01:01 PM
Edlee has a D16 im pretty sure

1SOL2NV
08-20-2007, 08:41 PM
yup d16z6 ..... single overhead hamster FTW!!!!!!

Andy_013
08-21-2007, 05:20 PM
^^^still a fast car with a turbo.

iNsTuN nOoDoH
08-22-2007, 07:45 AM
350 hp on a d series isn't going to be cheap. You'll be good with 200-230 hp, in my opinion. If you're sayin you dont have money to play with right now, a goal of 350 hp would probably get you sellin your car in no time.

drpepper14
08-22-2007, 12:09 PM
save your money and then decide what you want