Civic caliper mounting bracket question!!

[ryanh300]

I got new wheels today and the offset is crazy (11) but i love the way they look so I wanna keep them (i already rolled the fenders) but the mounting bracket of the brake calipers grind the wheels really bad and I was wondering what I should do about it. Should i just take a dremel and start grinding down the caliper mounting brackets?

[Krappy]

what ever tickles your pickle...

[Evil Goat]

if its not much of a clearance issue i dont see a problem with that

[ryanh300]

if its not much of a clearance issue i dont see a problem with that

no its pretty bad, the caliper bracket is making a really nasty metal/metal noise and needs more clearance.

[Evil Goat]

thats what im saying, if you dont have to grind half the caliper down to make it fit i dont see where it would be a problem, shaving it a little for clearance shouldnt be a problem....

what about spacers?

[ryanh300]

thats what im saying, if you dont have to grind half the caliper down to make it fit i dont see where it would be a problem, shaving it a little for clearance shouldnt be a problem....

what about spacers?

i might have to grind quite a bit for clearance, just wondering if it would negatively affect anything on my calipers if i ground down the caliper brackets

[Evil Goat]

im sure it would weaken them....the extra metal isnt there for the hell of it, like i said have you looked into the possibility of spacers?

[ryanh300]

im sure it would weaken them....the extra metal isnt there for the hell of it, like i said have you looked into the possibility of spacers?

no i havent...here's a pic of it i dont think i can space it anymore lol the offset is crazy.

http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v732/Ryanh300/?action=view&current=newwheels.jpg

[Fr33way]

You want to take as little off as possible or as mentioned use spacers. Even under daily driving those brackets see immense heat and will warp if too much material is removed.

[Fr33way]

How much do you need? A 3-5mm spacer may do the trick.

[ryanh300]

How much do you need? A 3-5mm spacer may do the trick.

the problem is is that i already had to roll my fenders to get the wheels to fit on and i dont have any more room for spacers.

[Evil Goat]

How much do you need? A 3-5mm spacer may do the trick.


what he says, spacers can sometimes do the trick, would be more practical than going to the brackets w/ a grinder....

[Evil Goat]

the problem is is that i already had to roll my fenders to get the wheels to fit on and i dont have any more room for spacers.


you may want to hit up HT and see if theres anything you can do swap wise for a smaller caliper setup, im no so sure, havent modded a honda in a good while

[Fr33way]

3-5mm really is a tiny amount but it just may work.

Is this on one area of the bracket or across the face of it? Pics?

[ryanh300]

3-5mm really is a tiny amount but it just may work.

Is this on one area of the bracket or across the face of it? Pics?

i dont have pics of it on my car but i colored this pic in to show you where it is approximately:

[ryanh300]

The white is where the bracket is rubbing the inside of the wheel, i tried to file it down but just couldnt take too much off and got tired.

[KPowerEP3]

whats the width on your new wheel? Because, if they're 8" (width, of course) wheels, you may just be able to grind that caliper bracket without any problem, because it would only be ~1-2mm difference

[Fr33way]

I would say spacers. Not being able to clear those small brakes is just the wheel not fitting. I would really evaluate before going forward with this while you can still sell them before you start making changes for them to fit. Even without spacers the front track is going to be a good bit wider than the rear. I know you are probably excited about the wheels but if they don't fit, they don't fit.

The 5mm spacer is about the size of three CDs on top of one another. You need to be able to tell how much room you need. If you have to go bigger than that, you have to start considering longer studs, and wheel bearing wear. Check with other Honda guys (that know what they are talking about) but I would think about 7mm is probably the most you would want to put on the stock studs.

[KPowerEP3]

I would say spacers. Not being able to clear those small brakes is just the wheel not fitting. I would really evaluate before going forward with this while you can still sell them before you start making changes for them to fit. Even without spacers the front track is going to be a good bit wider than the rear. I know you are probably excited about the wheels but if they don't fit, they don't fit.


x2, however how would the front TW be wider than the rear? the offsets are the same on the wheels (I'd assume) as are the TW's. Besides, he's already gone through the motions of destroying the inside of his fenders for these wheels, he may as well use what he wants.

[ryanh300]

x2, however how would the front TW be wider than the rear? the offsets are the same on the wheels (I'd assume) as are the TW's. Besides, he's already gone through the motions of destroying the inside of his fenders for these wheels, he may as well use what he wants.

Yeah, i'm still debating on what to do with these wheels. I might just take a little off the calipers and take a little off the inside of the wheels. I dont know how wide they are i just know the offset is 11.

[thepolecat]

Im sorry to say, but none of these options sound like a good idea. I love the wheels, but i just don't know if the wheels will work

[Fr33way]

The front track is usually wider for stability in FWD cars.

[twincannon26]

They're 7in. wide, +11 offset.

[xb1]

Go to Honda-Tech and PM this guy: Brake_Expert (http://www.hondamarketplace.com/zerouser?cmd=viewprofile&id=999500972)

He's local and has personally done just about every insane brake swap out there: How to put X brakes on your 96-00 EK Civic (revised) Upgrade Chart - UPDATED (http://www.honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1811368)

Tell hin Todd from Athens referred you.

[speedminded]

Someone say brakes on a Honda? :ninja:

The issue is an 11mm offset wheel. If you want to run it then you're going to need longer studs and spacers: ARP studs & H&R or comparable spacers will do the trick -- simply use washers on the studs before putting on the wheel to judge how much spacing you'll need...BUT along with that you'll need an ultra stiff suspension setup to prevent the tire from hitting the fender. Plus you'll want to replace the bearing when the hub is pulled apart.

It's a never ending story if you're not careful with your wheel, brake, and suspension selection. Click the 2001 Integra link in my sig for more info on my Porsche brake setup...

http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/2/web/470000-470999/470820_99_full.jpghttp://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/2/web/470000-470999/470820_104_full.jpg

http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/2/web/470000-470999/470820_100_full.jpg

http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/2/web/470000-470999/470820_111_full.jpg

[ryanh300]

Someone say brakes on a Honda? :ninja:

The issue is an 11mm offset wheel. If you want to run it then you're going to need longer studs and spacers: ARP studs & H&R or comparable spacers will do the trick -- simply use washers on the studs before putting on the wheel to judge how much spacing you'll need...BUT along with that you'll need an ultra stiff suspension setup to prevent the tire from hitting the fender. Plus you'll want to replace the bearing when the hub is pulled apart.

It's a never ending story if you're not careful with your wheel, brake, and suspension selection. Click the 2001 Integra link in my sig for more info on my Porsche brake setup...

http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/2/web/470000-470999/470820_99_full.jpghttp://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/2/web/470000-470999/470820_104_full.jpg

http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/2/web/470000-470999/470820_100_full.jpg

http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/2/web/470000-470999/470820_111_full.jpg

well i got the issue resolved today, had to do a little bit of dremeling/more rolling of my fenders but finally got them to fit, now i just gotta fix my back passengers side cause something in the fender is cutting up the tire! but all is well and it drives fine, maybe just a little shakey at about 60mph

[speedminded]

well i got the issue resolved today, had to do a little bit of dremeling/more rolling of my fenders but finally got them to fit, now i just gotta fix my back passengers side cause something in the fender is cutting up the tire! but all is well and it drives fine, maybe just a little shakey at about 60mpherr yeah, that's not good...I don't like shakey in a car even at 140mph. How did you space the wheels or did you grind it all down?

[ryanh300]

I ground the caliper brackets just enough for clearance. I can stop the "shakey" with hubcentric rings.

[Fr33way]

Make sure you have enough room to account for the flex and swell when the components are at operating temperature.

How much do you think you took off?

BTW, 7 inches wide is probaly not worth (even though it's done) the work. Fit some 225's or 235's on 8 inch wide wheels with all that room you have now. I suppose that is a moot point now though.