The Red Ring of Death

[Hulud]

you all have feared it, anyone gotten it?

i have :(

[BKgen®]

not yet. *knock on wood*

[IDCoconut]

yep. I'm on my 2nd box.

My bro has gotten it twice and is on his 3rd box.

[ep9716]

Replace It With A PS3..........





















*Waits For Fan Boys*

[OneSlow5pt0]

im bout to get my 5th 360

[chrisdavis]

What is it? Im assuming it has something to do with the Xbox 360.

[BuBBa DRiFT]

i got it but kicked it really hard and it went to green


true story

[ridgeline_06]

360 fucking up?

[AznTraitor]

well good thing Xbox put a new 3 year warranty on all 360's including ones from the initial launch....


goto the xbox live forums to get directions on how to send it in and get it fixed....


completely free of charge, they cover shipping, repair

[Hulud]

Replace It With A PS3..........








*Waits For Fan Boys*
if you have $500 to give me i would gladly get one lol

i got my 360 for $200 new from micro center, plus there really arent any PS3 games that i want as of now.

but i will prolly get one eventually

[Hulud]

well good thing Xbox put a new 3 year warranty on all 360's including ones from the initial launch....


goto the xbox live forums to get directions on how to send it in and get it fixed....


completely free of charge, they cover shipping, repair
yea i called them yesterday

they are sending out a box today, but then its gonna take 4-6 weeks (or so they say) probably longer

[AznTraitor]

yea i called them yesterday

they are sending out a box today, but then its gonna take 4-6 weeks (or so they say) probably longer


well at least it's free!

before, you had to cover shipping...but they are now refunding those if you still have a reciept!

[Hulud]

well at least it's free!

before, you had to cover shipping...but they are now refunding those if you still have a reciept!
yea thats nice, but i wish you could just take it to some place locally and microsoft would cover it :( but o well

i just bought dirt yesterday and when i get back my 360 was not working, talk about pwnt.....

but when i get it back i will have 3-4 new games to play lol

NCAA Football 2008, DiRT, skate., and then soon after Halo3

[OneSlow5pt0]

yea thats nice, but i wish you could just take it to some place locally and microsoft would cover it :( but o well

i just bought dirt yesterday and when i get back my 360 was not working, talk about pwnt.....

but when i get it back i will have 3-4 new games to play lol

NCAA Football 2008, DiRT, skate., and then soon after Halo3



they said ill have mine back,by friday....so thats bout 16-17 days since i sent it

[Hulud]

they said ill have mine back,by friday....so thats bout 16-17 days since i sent it
you give me hope :) +1

the people at microsoft said give 1 week to get the box then another 4-6 to get it back

[ep9716]

if you have $500 to give me i would gladly get one lol

i got my 360 for $200 new from micro center, plus there really arent any PS3 games that i want as of now.

but i will prolly get one eventually

Well Check This Out...Its Kinda Old Now But W/E

[OneSlow5pt0]

the only reason ill buy a PS3,is if socom plays like the first 2

[Hulud]

Well Check This Out...Its Kinda Old Now But W/E
check what out? :???:

[Hulud]

the only reason ill buy a PS3,is if socom plays like the first 2
werd to that son

but anyways this is gonna be my 3rd 360

first one stopped reading discs

[OneSlow5pt0]

werd to that son

but anyways this is gonna be my 3rd 360

first one stopped reading discs

yea,i love everything bout the 360...but,MS needs to get with cooling hardware right.

hope this new cell and motherboard helps,this will be my 1st 360 since the redesign

[ironchef]

Ps3 still working with 0 problems, lawl!

[Hulud]

yea,i love everything bout the 360...but,MS needs to get with cooling hardware right.

hope this new cell and motherboard helps,this will be my 1st 360 since the redesign
when did they redesign it?

[Hulud]

Ps3 still working with 0 problems, lawl!
you spending $600
me spending $200

lawl!

[OneSlow5pt0]

when did they redesign it?

when the 360 elite came out,they redesigned the hardware

[Hulud]

when the 360 elite came out,they redesigned the hardware
sweet, so do they redesign it when you send it in?

cause mine was manufactured in aug 06

[Hulud]

Ps3 still working with 0 problems, lawl!
but seriously, what good games does the ps3 have that are only for ps3?

jw cause i really dont know anything about the ps3

[OneSlow5pt0]

sweet, so do they redesign it when you send it in?

cause mine was manufactured in aug 06

yea,all 360 now are the new designs




and the only good ps3 game out is motorstorm.......and all the tother good games(besides socom) will be coming to 360 as well

[ironchef]

Honestly none right now, but 4th quarter this year 1st quarter next year, its on.

[Hulud]

also hypnotoad, how do you check the status of the 360?

do you have to wait on the phone listening to crappy techno for 30 minutes?

[Hulud]

yea,all 360 now are the new designs

sweet

[Hulud]

Honestly none right now, but 4th quarter this year 1st quarter next year, its on.
yea i heard socom comes out this fall/winter

that would be reason for me to pick one up, time to start saving my pennies...

[ironchef]

Killzone 2, MGS4, GT5, littlebigplanet, warhawk, the better version of DiRT, GTA4, Haze, Lair, Heavenly Sword, etc etc.

[OneSlow5pt0]

also hypnotoad, how do you check the status of the 360?

do you have to wait on the phone listening to crappy techno for 30 minutes?

yea,i check on it..but they told me just to call back wedsday and they should have a tracking #.

also,the only reason they play that gay techno..is their trying to get u to hang up






also i got my first neon greed bar:D

[OneSlow5pt0]

Killzone 2, MGS4, GT5, littlebigplanet, warhawk, the better version of DiRT, GTA4, Haze, Lair, Heavenly Sword, etc etc.


GTA4 is gonna be like pokemon......where the ps3 has some stuff different but then the 360 is different from the ps3


and rumor is MGS might make it to 360(even though i dont like it)

[ironchef]

GTA4 is gonna be like pokemon......where the ps3 has some stuff different but then the 360 is different from the ps3


and rumor is MGS might make it to 360(even though i dont like it)That rumor was addressed at E3, MGS4 is staying a ps3 exclusive.

[ep9716]

WTF The Link Didnt Show

http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/373872

LMK If It Still Dont.

[OneSlow5pt0]

id dont have wireless controllers or HD drive.....soo...and i get better online service,cause i pay for it

[Hulud]

Killzone 2, MGS4, GT5, littlebigplanet, warhawk, the better version of DiRT, GTA4, Haze, Lair, Heavenly Sword, etc etc.
what is the difference with DiRT?

plus the 360 has gta4 too

[Hulud]

WTF The Link Didnt Show

http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/373872

LMK If It Still Dont.
it is showing

but the prices are not accurate, and plus i dont need taht shit either lol

i dont need an HD DVD player cause im not gonna go buy HD DVDs

i dont need wireless internet, cause cables are faster anyways

i got my charge and play kit for $10 new lol

so i spent $260 for my 360 (the console, the charge and play, the live account)

[Hulud]

yea,i check on it..but they told me just to call back wedsday and they should have a tracking #.

also,the only reason they play that gay techno..is their trying to get u to hang up






also i got my first neon greed bar:D
:gay: i hate calling up lol

what is a neon greed bar?

[OneSlow5pt0]

:gay: i hate calling up lol

what is a neon greed bar?

green:doh:

[ironchef]

what is the difference with DiRT?

plus the 360 has gta4 toohttp://uk.gamespot.com/video/932887/6174494/videoplayerpop?rgroup=e32007_videos
Tell me if that works, its an interview with the developer of dirt.

Also I believe GTA4 is a timed exclusive on ps3.

[Hulud]

green:doh:
lol got it

[Hulud]

http://uk.gamespot.com/video/932887/6174494/videoplayerpop?rgroup=e32007_videos
Tell me if that works, its an interview with the developer of dirt.

Also I believe GTA4 is a timed exclusive on ps3.
link works

and what do you mean by timed exclusive?

[Hulud]

so basically it has surround sound?
or did i miss something with his brit accent?

[ep9716]

Eh I Guess....Im In Love With My Ps3
The 360 Is A Great Machine But It Brakes Down To Damn Much. luckily Yall 360 Owners Have 3Years Wan Now.

[ironchef]

link works

and what do you mean by timed exclusive?As in it will come out on ps3 only for an xxx amount of time, then come out to 360.

[EmminoDaGreat]

resistance fall of man for ps3 is like halo.

[OneSlow5pt0]

sorry,but GT4 hits same day on 360 and ps3

[ironchef]

you spending $600
me spending $200

lawl!Its $500 now btw.

[ShooterMcGavin]

not i, but then again i don't play mine much =/

[Killer]

you all have feared it, anyone gotten it?

i have :(


no, but two of my 360's have had aids... so i just keep taking them back to best buy ( i bought a 2 yr warranty...) which is soooooooooo much easier than dealing with microsoft...

[Killer]

resistance fall of man for ps3 is like halo.


NOTHING is like halo....

[OneSlow5pt0]

NOTHING is like halo....

besides halo


but,idk....looking like call of duty4 > halo3

but im buying both:D

[MachNU]

to the person how said hit it real hard...your arent lying that method got mine to work for nearly 5 more months but at last that didnt even work....so i said fuck it on my 2nd one and got it to work long enough to trade it in for a Xbox Elite! LOL i laughed my ass off the whole way home, got $215 for a red ring of death xbox that happen to jsut work when they checked it! :lmao:

[AznTraitor]

when the 360 elite came out,they redesigned the hardware




that is WRONG! all 360's are still using the EXACT same hardware as the launch 360's! the only difference is placement of parts.

[MachNU]

that is WRONG! all 360's are still using the EXACT same hardware as the launch 360's! the only difference is placement of parts.

wrong....the elite is new style technology! everything is better parts newer parts!

[Hulud]

As in it will come out on ps3 only for an xxx amount of time, then come out to 360.
what are you talking about?

GTA4 comes out on 10/16/07 for 360 and PS3

so whats this about it being a "timed exclusive"? is it like 5 minutes? lol

[Hulud]

Its $500 now btw.
i know its 500 now, but when you got it it was 600 :)

[Hulud]

no, but two of my 360's have had aids... so i just keep taking them back to best buy ( i bought a 2 yr warranty...) which is soooooooooo much easier than dealing with microsoft...
i bought mine from Microcenter but their warrantee wont kick in until the microsoft one craps out.

but you paid $400 for yours right?

[AznTraitor]

wrong....the elite is new style technology! everything is better parts newer parts!



no, it's been proven over and over....that there is nothing new technology about it! alot of rumors spread about how it had the new chip, and the RLOD was solved.....but after people stopped looking at the pics of both units taken apart, except for some bigger capacitors, they just moved alot of the old board around to try and help the problems with RLOD....

goto the microsoft xbox live forums and you will see this....the Elite is only black, big hd, and has hdmi cable.....other than that, it is nothing "new" about it.....EXACT same technology as the launch 360's.

wanna keep arguing about it? how about a nice cup of you are all retards who don't know jackshit....

Xbox 360 specs
http://reviews.cnet.com/consoles/microsoft-xbox-360-20gb/4507-10109_7-31355096.html?tag=sub

Xbox 360 Elite specs
http://reviews.cnet.com/consoles/microsoft-xbox-360-elite/4507-10109_7-32390552.html

as you can CLEARLY...SEE....only difference is the HD size...and a small graphic effect that none of you will ever notice

SAME PROCESSOR, SAME VIDEO CARD, SAME RAM, SAME SOUND

nothing new....alot of tards jumped the gun and thought just because of the new placement of parts on the board, it made the elite, a better xbox that was built better with new stuff...that was not the case at all....

plenty of elite's have run into the RLOD


and Hulud, hypnotoad is COMPLETELY wrong you are not getting "new technology"...the RLOD is actually a simple fix...there's already tons of write up's on how to do it yourself, it has to do with the heat sink and some of the fragile soldering connections becoming overheated and brittle and then breaking

[AznTraitor]

the really funny thing is....difference between me and you guys...I will actually look for facts and make every attempt at not being wrong before running my mouth.....it's the internet....you could've easily used google to look this shit up before even attempting to talk like you knew what was up...so congrats on that

[Hulud]

the really funny thing is....difference between me and you guys...I will actually look for facts and make every attempt at not being wrong before running my mouth.....it's the internet....you could've easily used google to look this shit up before even attempting to talk like you knew what was up...so congrats on that
and who are you referring to?

[AznTraitor]

and who are you referring to?


a.) hypnotoad for talking completely out of his ass and making things up as he goes

b.)transaxle for saying it's new hardware and technology when it clearly isnt.

[Hulud]

a.) hypnotoad for talking completely out of his ass and making things up as he goes

b.)transaxle for saying it's new hardware and technology when it clearly isnt.
oh ok gotcha

so does the different placement of the parts in the 360 fix the RROD?

[OneSlow5pt0]

i didnt make anything up,MS said they redesigned it to perform better and they look completely different when u open them up........so if im talking out my ass this is the only thing...

[AznTraitor]

oh ok gotcha

so does the different placement of the parts in the 360 fix the RROD?


negative.....the problem is really cooling....it's cheap soldering, that is manufactured so fast that it's not really done very well, and when your 360 heats up it become brittle and just breaks contact and the heat sink has some heat sink gel that is pretty cheap and it dries up pretty quickly or faster than microsoft thought it would, so it does not absorb alot of the heat that it's suppose to....so the guys who have fixed it themselves, just re soldered and applied alot more heatsink gel/goo and their's fired up no problems.


I have a first launch 360, and haven't had a problem at all (knock on wood) and I've had gears of war marathons, as well as madden tourneys and it's never failed me....so I'm one of the lucky ones

[MachNU]

a.) hypnotoad for talking completely out of his ass and making things up as he goes

b.)transaxle for saying it's new hardware and technology when it clearly isnt.

yep your correct they used the same exact components that they produced 2 or 3 years ago....they had so much in stock that they said FUCK IT they will come out with the elite with all the old pieces left over! New tech. does not have to mean all new designs and pieces it can mean better built pieces even if they come out the same. The boards can be modified just a bit to cut down on heat and such! RROD was something that occured when the console got to hot for to long to often! If the parts are spread just a bit to keep the heat down and give the console more air flow better odds of working! So next time you go trying to get techincal about it make sure you understand. The products can be the same but the elite iwth a redesign console insides has cut down on RROD! Hell it can still happen, but hey thats technology, you can buy the best top of the line computer thats only been on the market for a day and it will still run into problems, technology is not perfect!

[OneSlow5pt0]

negative.....the problem is really cooling....it's cheap soldering, that is manufactured so fast that it's not really done very well, and when your 360 heats up it become brittle and just breaks contact and the heat sink has some heat sink gel that is pretty cheap and it dries up pretty quickly or faster than microsoft thought it would, so it does not absorb alot of the heat that it's suppose to....so the guys who have fixed it themselves, just re soldered and applied alot more heatsink gel/goo and their's fired up no problems.


I have a first launch 360, and haven't had a problem at all (knock on wood) and I've had gears of war marathons, as well as madden tourneys and it's never failed me....so I'm one of the lucky ones

and their made in korea...but thanks for explaining the heat sink thing:goodjob:

[Hulud]

negative.....the problem is really cooling....it's cheap soldering, that is manufactured so fast that it's not really done very well, and when your 360 heats up it become brittle and just breaks contact and the heat sink has some heat sink gel that is pretty cheap and it dries up pretty quickly or faster than microsoft thought it would, so it does not absorb alot of the heat that it's suppose to....so the guys who have fixed it themselves, just re soldered and applied alot more heatsink gel/goo and their's fired up no problems.


I have a first launch 360, and haven't had a problem at all (knock on wood) and I've had gears of war marathons, as well as madden tourneys and it's never failed me....so I'm one of the lucky ones
so its all luck then?

[OneSlow5pt0]

so its all luck then?

i guess my friend got one in march of 06 and his still works great........and my 1st one lasted one day:lmfao:

[MachNU]

i guess my friend got one in march of 06 and his still works great........and my 1st one lasted one day:lmfao:

hell a friend of mine got one on the second shipment and the same day bought the intercooler for it, and his works PERFECT still!

[AznTraitor]

yep your correct they used the same exact components that they produced 2 or 3 years ago....they had so much in stock that they said FUCK IT they will come out with the elite with all the old pieces left over! New tech. does not have to mean all new designs and pieces it can mean better built pieces even if they come out the same. The boards can be modified just a bit to cut down on heat and such! RROD was something that occured when the console got to hot for to long to often! If the parts are spread just a bit to keep the heat down and give the console more air flow better odds of working! So next time you go trying to get techincal about it make sure you understand. The products can be the same but the elite iwth a redesign console insides has cut down on RROD! Hell it can still happen, but hey thats technology, you can buy the best top of the line computer thats only been on the market for a day and it will still run into problems, technology is not perfect!


I understand completely. Almost every one of my buddies has had their 360's go down, so we had alot of time researching and reading all the tech forums, and a few of them emailed microsoft tech support and telling them that they were gonna take the 360 apart themselves and did not care about the warranty and the reps told them to check the heatsink goo and the soldering.

When the Elite's were announced, everyone was excited because we were gonna trade ours in at EBgames and get the Elite, but after some were released in Europe and people started poking around and posted up pics, it didn't take long for everyone to notice that the only change was placement of parts, and the larger capacitors that were at the bottom of the board...but the soldering was still the same, and heatsink and processor were still the same.

Microsoft at this point has not released when they will be turning to the new processor that will let the 360 run smoother and faster and should not work the 360 as hard, but it's all hersay because some fanboy will come out and say they heard it will be in the next box, or it will be in the 08 models....

the fact of the matter is, Xbox has taken a huge hit on the RLOD and other warranty covered 360's....that they are not gonna do shit until they get that ironed out first

[AznTraitor]

so its all luck then?


I hate to say it, but at this point I really think it is.

My next door neighbor went thru 4 360's already.... and two of my good buddies got 360's that were dead right out of the box....you hear of problems left and right....but there are a certain few that just havent had any problems with their box....and so far I've been lucky....I played forza 2 for about 6 hrs straight the first day I got it, and then played it for about 8 hours the next day at work, and it just keeps on ticking....againest what alot of people say, I bought the nyoko intercooler and it's been keeping my box cool

[MachNU]

I hate to say it, but at this point I really think it is.

My next door neighbor went thru 4 360's already.... and two of my good buddies got 360's that were dead right out of the box....you hear of problems left and right....but there are a certain few that just havent had any problems with their box....and so far I've been lucky....I played forza 2 for about 6 hrs straight the first day I got it, and then played it for about 8 hours the next day at work, and it just keeps on ticking....againest what alot of people say, I bought the nyoko intercooler and it's been keeping my box cool

read one of my above post...friend did the same thing on his he got 1 months after they came out, bought the intercooler that day...his runs liek a champ still!

[OneSlow5pt0]

I hate to say it, but at this point I really think it is.

My next door neighbor went thru 4 360's already.... and two of my good buddies got 360's that were dead right out of the box....you hear of problems left and right....but there are a certain few that just havent had any problems with their box....and so far I've been lucky....I played forza 2 for about 6 hrs straight the first day I got it, and then played it for about 8 hours the next day at work, and it just keeps on ticking....againest what alot of people say, I bought the nyoko intercooler and it's been keeping my box cool

i had the intercooler on my last 30,and it melted to the box

[Hulud]

I hate to say it, but at this point I really think it is.

My next door neighbor went thru 4 360's already.... and two of my good buddies got 360's that were dead right out of the box....you hear of problems left and right....but there are a certain few that just havent had any problems with their box....and so far I've been lucky....I played forza 2 for about 6 hrs straight the first day I got it, and then played it for about 8 hours the next day at work, and it just keeps on ticking....againest what alot of people say, I bought the nyoko intercooler and it's been keeping my box cool
would the I/C void the warrantee?

[AznTraitor]

would the I/C void the warrantee?


yes, because it does not brand the microsoft seal of approval of certified products to be used with the xbox.....the first series i/c were poorly made and fried out the connections and would then short out and burn the fans and the xbox up......those have long been gone and they are on the third series, which no one has logged any complaints.....alot of people actually took their xbox apart and put in those new nifty led high powered computer fans in place of the stockers and it runs alot cooler and quieter....microsoft did not spend much money on our stock fans which are noisey and that's about it....they do a horrible job on getting the air moving, and I didnt want to hack up my box, so after research I got the pelican horizontal stand first because the nyoko i/c was jacking up xbox's left and right, but the pelican one has such weak fans that don't do as much either because you can still feel the xbox get hot, and then I waited and the i/c was getting better reviews and the new gens ones came out so I got it....it's noisey, but you can hear and feel how much hot air it pulls


as for the warranty, if I ever have to send it in, I'll just pull it off and send it in and they can point their fingers and all that....but I'll just deny it all. Nowadays anything can void warranty's, but you can always get around it

[Hulud]

so which I/C did you end up getting (the 3rd gen). was it a newer pelican?

if so how can i tell the diff between a new one and a 1st gen one?

[AznTraitor]

so which I/C did you end up getting (the 3rd gen). was it a newer pelican?

if so how can i tell the diff between a new one and a 1st gen one?


nah, screw the pelican stand! it doesnt cool


I got the nyoko intercooler....all of the first series were already pulled and all the ones for sale now, are the latest gen ones....you dont have to fear now, because it's been quite sometime since xbox's were frying with them

just make sure it's firmly plugged in, alot of people didnt which caused a short in the xbox and cooler

[DemonEyez]

Just a lil fyi for the is the elite a new chip etc.. its not.

Microsoft has announced that they will redesign the system with a cooler running processor and board and better parts.. but that isnt set to happen till around holiday season. The elite is basically a regular 360 with hdmi added and a larger HD.

Also since this thread is about how many people etc have had their 360's break.. latest microsoft numbers put the failure rate at 30%.. climbing too. The longer the 360['s are out there the more are tearing up. A estimated cost of 1.17 billion $ to repair the 360's already out there for microsoft..

Someone said no new computer stuff coming out will be perfect.. your right.. but nothing ive seen has been this bad either. Its hard to imagine that no one at microsoft could have tested the 360 for these problems before release. It happened witht he regular xbox also alot.. and now this. Its just ridiculous.

Also for the exchange.. when my ram went out ocz replaced it within 5 days.. my logitech mouse.. they shipped me a new one then said to send mine back took them 2 days.. if a car breaks down under warranty u get a rental or loaner.. microsoft should be doing the same or provide next day shipping. Its just good customer service.

And yeah the pelican I/C's are trash for any system ive seen.

[MachNU]

lol stillt he failure rate isnt as bad as the ps3, hell they are just breaking period the failure rate on them is every 1/4! and those take awhile to replace!

["B"]

you all have feared it, anyone gotten it?

i have :(

Got it like 2 months ago. And Madden comes out soon.:(

[ironchef]

lol stillt he failure rate isnt as bad as the ps3, hell they are just breaking period the failure rate on them is every 1/4! and those take awhile to replace!Are you smoking crack? Cite your sources please, because heres one stating ps3 has a failure rate under 1%. http://www.ripten.com/?p=374

[BTLFED]

Oh this is an XBox 360 thing? I thought you got some strange STD or something.

[OneSlow5pt0]

Got it like 2 months ago. And Madden comes out soon.:(

call MS tell u got 3RL and get a new one

[Hulud]

Got it like 2 months ago. And Madden comes out soon.:(
have you called 1-800-4MY-XBOX ?

if not, call them and get them to fix it for free, cause they will