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coolcat
07-05-2007, 04:21 PM
How many of you guys that autox/road race use ebay's? Just wondering.

JITB
07-05-2007, 05:12 PM
everyones gonna tell u its a bad idea.. but they might be good for you.. test them out and see..

i ran them on my protege, and it was nice for daily driving but with harsh driving the rear tie bar/strut bars witht he ebay coilovers, my car was waaaay to stiff..but i doubt u drive a protege...lol

GSRteg®
07-05-2007, 05:14 PM
There ok, but kinds bouncy.... :(

TRDwasiq
07-05-2007, 05:34 PM
nopes trust me noooooo:) well if u have good set of shocks/struts they pretty decent

changaroo
07-05-2007, 05:51 PM
for auto x? noo way. you'll be bouncing all over the place.

SLo_MKIII
07-05-2007, 07:29 PM
they are not as bad as ppl make them out to be... throw em together with some good shocks and they have a very decent ride considering the price

coolcat
07-05-2007, 08:11 PM
Well I just have a stock 90 civic 4dr, and I'd like to lower it (cheaply lol) and probably get a ST rear sway bar, since overall that would be about 150 dollars, and I'm on a rediculously low budget. My friend has a 240 and in my opinion it rides fine its just slightly slightly bouncy I don't know if it would be the same in my 4dr (his does have KYB gr-2's which I hear are just OEM replacement basically). Would it be a better idea to spend about 60 more and get the Megan coilovers? (the plain locking perch ones not full). Please don't recommend these 600+ dollar coilovers I'm WAY too poor for that, I just want a simple 1" drop and a rear swaybar so my car won't handle quite as shitty as it does now :goodjob:. As for doing autocross I've never even done it before but I would like to try it someday. I've got no racing experience at all so I'm going to do terrible but I'd at least like to have my car do a little better than a dead stock one. So what do yall think? $40 ebay's or $110 Megan's which look suspiciously similar to the ebays...

SLo_MKIII
07-05-2007, 09:02 PM
i went with the ebays and it was a pretty good ride and i dropped mine 4in so with a one inch drop the ride will probably be better imo

changaroo
07-05-2007, 09:51 PM
if you think ebays are a good ride, im glad such cheap parts can make you happy.

have you seen the picture where the sleeve tears after a long period of use because its made out of soft aluminum?

coolcat
07-05-2007, 10:10 PM
have you seen the picture where the sleeve tears after a long period of use because its made out of soft aluminum?


No, Please send them to me. What kind of car was it on?

JITB
07-05-2007, 10:16 PM
i rode my ebay ocilovers for 2 1/2 years.. i had the megan racing ones.. if they ae any difffernt.

coolcat
07-05-2007, 10:30 PM
i rode my ebay ocilovers for 2 1/2 years.. i had the megan racing ones.. if they ae any difffernt.

Please refrase this.. I'm so confsued.

TRDwasiq
07-05-2007, 10:34 PM
ebay coilverss , u knw the top part idk wht is called but i will just crack after 1 yr or so.. and then u ill be makin stupid noises:)

Elbow
07-06-2007, 12:24 AM
i know people who have had ebay coilovers for over 3+ years on stock struts and never had a problem. and these were as low as they went to, 3 inches or 4, idk.

TRDwasiq
07-06-2007, 12:33 AM
well i had them over 2yrs almost 3.5 inch drop but bad struts and shocks:) broke the top and bottom part for front:) idk i think they are decent for 40$ man

AnthonyF
07-06-2007, 10:57 AM
negative ghost rider that decision is dumb.

KevinT707
07-06-2007, 11:08 AM
I've had my Ebay slip-on coilovers for almost 3 years now & they ride perfectly fine; on stock struts too. Doesn't bounce or anything, pretty much feels stock. Don't expect to be able to take it to the mountains but they're cheap & does the job. Of course, if you have a bigger budget then go with the BIG BALLER stuff.

SLo_MKIII
07-06-2007, 11:10 AM
had mine for a year dropped 4in no probs at all

1NonlyAccord
07-06-2007, 11:29 AM
I orderd sum coilovers off ebay ($38) just got them a few days ago..im putting them on tmr morning..ill let you know how it does on my fat ass accord

http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i243/mr_crispy1011/coilovers.jpg

SLo_MKIII
07-06-2007, 11:56 AM
I orderd sum coilovers off ebay ($38) just got them a few days ago..im putting them on tmr morning..ill let you know how it does on my fat ass accord

http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i243/mr_crispy1011/coilovers.jpg

atleast u got blue ones... the ones i ordered showed a blue pic and when i got them they were hulk green lol...

1NonlyAccord
07-06-2007, 12:12 PM
lol actually the pic showed red with the built in measuring..when i opend the f'ed up mail box with tap all over it they were blue ^^^^ .lol

Black R
07-06-2007, 12:18 PM
i would never do it. i mean, they are going to sag and collapse over time. for autox or rr, never! but if you don't mind risking it on an old car or whatever then go for it.

personally, i feel if you don't have $200 for some eibach or other quality lowering springs then you shouldn't be modding your car.

1NonlyAccord
07-06-2007, 12:20 PM
i would never do it. i mean, they are going to sag and collapse over time. for autox or rr, never! but if you don't mind risking it on an old car or whatever then go for it.

personally, i feel if you don't have $200 for some eibach or other quality lowering springs then you shouldn't be modding your car.

idk bout the other people using them but im only using them for a month if that till i get the rest of the money for the air ride..so mines only very temporary lowering.

Z33_kid
07-06-2007, 01:00 PM
never not auto x better to be safe than sorry

Elbow
07-06-2007, 03:36 PM
^ sorry, but wtf did you just say? lol

Z33_kid
07-06-2007, 05:06 PM
dont buy em for auto x , get quality better to be safe than sorry

Whiteboy™
07-06-2007, 05:18 PM
i am buying some for my 91 civic sedan, BUT they will only be on there for maybe a year. untill i can afford some skunk2's

cactusEG
07-06-2007, 05:42 PM
How many of you guys that autox/road race use ebay's? Just wondering.

me and they fucking suck and dont every buy them

GSRteg®
07-06-2007, 06:30 PM
Huh, the ones that it should for me were red and I got blue lol. Oh, well :tongue1:


atleast u got blue ones... the ones i ordered showed a blue pic and when i got them they were hulk green lol...

1NonlyAccord
07-06-2007, 09:29 PM
Huh, the ones that it should for me were red and I got blue lol. Oh, well :tongue1:

same with me..red with the measuring on it..got blue with no measuring.lol

IDriveToast
07-06-2007, 10:20 PM
Im running some middle grade (non-ebay) coilovers + tokico blues on an Integra.

The ride is okay...going over multiple bumps in a row can cause a lot of bounce. I don't have any problems on flat road/small bumps and it handles fine.

Only reason they're even on my car is I got the whole setup for $200.

I'm just biding my time while I save up money for JIC Magic <3

SRCRX
07-06-2007, 11:23 PM
There ok, but kinds bouncy.... :(

Ya, mine were on my car when i got them, and I wish it was stock!!

changaroo
07-07-2007, 01:21 AM
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid102/p56d6ff7a628f35c5aaa00339a11870a1/f9b53b04.jpg

i couldnt find the pic i was tlaking about, but this is the closest thing i could find.
the sleeve will give out, and i guarantee you it will happen sooner or later.
after that, you'll be riding on the strut.

TRDwasiq
07-07-2007, 01:32 AM
^^^ thats wht happned to mine but it wasnt this bad:) it just broke in half the front ones..

1NonlyAccord
07-07-2007, 09:14 AM
what do yall estimate on the lifetime on dem cheap ebay ones? a month or two will b straight.right? im putting sum on in an hr for temporary

JITB
07-07-2007, 09:34 AM
like i said before i rode mine for 2 years on my protege, and they are still being used on my friends mx3. but i think there ,might be a difference i got mine alooong time ago. i think now there are tons of bad companies selling shitty springs.

GSRteg®
07-07-2007, 10:09 AM
Damn, I hope that shit dont happens to me. BTW im looking at some skunk 2's as we speak to purchse ASAP. Kinda tired of bounching every time I hit a bump.

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid102/p56d6ff7a628f35c5aaa00339a11870a1/f9b53b04.jpg

i couldnt find the pic i was tlaking about, but this is the closest thing i could find.
the sleeve will give out, and i guarantee you it will happen sooner or later.
after that, you'll be riding on the strut.

GSRteg®
07-07-2007, 10:12 AM
Also what the hell are those round rubber pieces for ( you know the ones that come with the coilovers)......? Can anyone explain were they go?

GSRteg®
07-07-2007, 10:20 AM
Look not bad!

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/CIVIC-88-00-SKUNK2-SKUNK-2-ADJUSTABLE-COILOVER-KIT_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ33582QQihZ016QQitem Z260135795477QQrdZ1QQsspagenameZWDVW#ebayphotohost ing

JITB
07-07-2007, 10:21 AM
there supposed to go between the coil spring and the strut i believe to keep them from clanking and makin noises.

GSRteg®
07-07-2007, 10:27 AM
Ah, thanks

there supposed to go between the coil spring and the strut i believe to keep them from clanking and makin noises.

Elbow
07-07-2007, 10:51 AM
Not ALL ebay coilovers will break like that, I personally have never seen any break in person. Joey, my EG had eBay coilovers on the front.

SleepinEj1
07-07-2007, 03:13 PM
I was running the ebay ones for about 5 years, 2.5-3" drop with no problem what so ever with tokico blues shocks. Thinking I'll get a better ride, i switched to skunk2. The only thing i noticed was while launching @6k with slicks, the skunk2 didn't sag as much as the ebay ones.

Total_Blender
07-07-2007, 05:12 PM
If you use these with stock struts they will make the struts blow out, as the springs are putting more stress on the struts than they were designed for. You're better off using shocks/springs that were designed to work together.

I'm suspicious of anything aluminum with threads on it.

Do they not have cheap spring/strut kits for the Hondas? I got a set of matched springs/struts for my VW for $450. The only advantage of coilovers over stiffer springs/struts is the ability to adjust your ride height, and the added clearance for wheels over 8" or so wide.

NAG2I
07-07-2007, 08:21 PM
i got the megan racing sleeves and springs not the full coilovers
and my shocks blew out
so i got some tokico blues about 4 or 5 months ago and have been fine since
handles very well and kinda bouncy but it doesnt bother me.
and this is on a DA

1NonlyAccord
07-08-2007, 03:08 PM
Just got done putting the cheap no name Ebay coilovers on my fat ass accord..2.5" in the back and 3"in the front. rides fine with shocks ect. but it is bumpy after u hit a dip in the road. cheap way of lowering ur car. no problems for me.and my 3200lbs carr.ha

TRDwasiq
07-08-2007, 03:13 PM
u should hv done 2.5'' in front and 3'' in back

1NonlyAccord
07-08-2007, 03:49 PM
u should hv done 2.5'' in front and 3'' in back

i tryed but the lowest the back wnt was 2.5 and the front dropped 3" orginally 5" in front droped it 3" so theres 2" wheel well

Hulud
07-09-2007, 12:35 AM
as the adage goes: you get what you pay for


in all honesty i had ebay coils on my prelude, they sucked, waste of $40

just take the hit and get brand name if you want a good ride with good handling

but if you dont care about your kidneys then get the ebays and pay your medical bills later...

coolcat
07-28-2007, 12:32 PM
Not ALL ebay coilovers will break like that, I personally have never seen any break in person. Joey, my EG had eBay coilovers on the front.


I know, but the thing was they were cranked all the way down wern't they? People that don't crank them down all the way seem to have the problem with the sleeve shredding, so heres my terribly ghetto way of solving that problem -

http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j149/slipknot2k7/ghetosprings.jpg

I'll buy the ABS pvc that is is much stronger than standard pvc, im sure it would take well over 400lbs+ of force onto them to actually get them to shatter. Pretty ghetto but its bound to help a little.

GSRteg®
07-28-2007, 04:06 PM
There not that bad. :no:

coolcat
07-29-2007, 10:51 AM
So about the PVC idea? yes/no? maybe use steel tubing instead?

BuBBa DRiFT
08-06-2007, 07:18 PM
i got ebays on my rear, squeaky and bouncy, ghetto as hell, nice match with my ebay muffler though.

ryanh300
08-06-2007, 09:35 PM
Just save up for maybe like one more week and get these

http://www.streetrays.com/catalog/index.php?cPath=23_194_563

the answer to all of your problems at only $180 for a brand name

speedminded
08-07-2007, 09:02 AM
Why replace any spring if you're not going to upgrade your shocks? There's plenty of people on here or honda-tech or team-integra or wherever that have used spring & shock combos or even full coil-over dampeners that they've upgraded from. Save up and get something that is guaranteed to work.

SandM
08-09-2007, 10:34 PM
i have the skunk2 pros on my dc and my buddy has the coil sleeves on his da. bumpy, but not bouncy. stiff as hell, but my last car had springs only.

xlilvi3tx
08-10-2007, 05:44 AM
when i buy ebay shit i never get brand i never heard of. i go for stuff like tein n shit

xlilvi3tx
08-10-2007, 05:46 AM
but sometime they might fuck u over like my friend. he brought some kyb shocks n they were stock painted red with stickers haha

IDCoconut
08-10-2007, 07:15 AM
Half of you guys probably had the stock front strut bottoming out if you were cranking it down all the way, that's why the ride was bumpy.

It's a really good idea to get a strut that is designed for a lowered height. You have an endless choice when it comes to springs, just make sure you have a good strut.

Koni's FTW

Elbow
08-10-2007, 02:56 PM
when i buy ebay shit i never get brand i never heard of. i go for stuff like tein n shit

...wtf did you just say? :???: ...and half the "Tein" stuff on eBay is fake I hear. ;)

speedminded
08-10-2007, 03:07 PM
...wtf did you just say? :???: ...and half the "Tein" stuff on eBay is fake I hear. ;)exactly, you think it's tein anyway...lol!

and just in case anyone wants to knows...tein springs are basically for show queens that need green to go with their paint scheme. :tongue:

coolcat
08-10-2007, 06:23 PM
Simon, what kind of struts did you EG have?

Elbow
08-10-2007, 10:42 PM
Stock

coolcat
08-12-2007, 10:20 AM
z0mg forreal?? I'm having less regrets about my ebays now since that eg handled like a lil squirrel.

TheProfiteer
08-20-2007, 12:36 AM
If you want to lower the car why get the coilovers? Why not just get the cheapo lowering springs?

Elbow
08-20-2007, 07:08 AM
^he cant lower it as much as he wants he has to control the ride height

1989_crx_si
08-20-2007, 12:33 PM
specify when you say EBAY. ebay sells teins, hks, eibach as well and not only cheap springs. yes you'll get these springs for a fraction at retail stores and they work great depending on what you get. if you get the cheap no name brand springs for $50 than you get what you pay for.

everyone has to be so negative when they hear EBAY items. i bought a set of skunk 2 for my crx with 4 way KYB's for $500 and they work awesome on my little crx. i did have cheap ebay coilovers on my crx with GR2's and they weren't bad. springs make somewhat of a difference but you'll need struts/shocks as well to take it to the next level.

StraightSix
08-22-2007, 12:40 PM
Here's something else to consider if you want to autocross. Any coilover sleeve or lowering spring is going to move you out of a stock class for autocross. This might put you into a class where your car won't be competitive and can make the learning curve much steeper.

The same thing applies to the rear sway bar, as well.

If you're really serious about beginning to autocross, then take the car in bone stock form and begin learning from there. If you get really bitten by the auto-x bug, then start talking to people about what does/doesn't work. The mods you want to do will change how the car does on course quite a bit. For example, the rear bar could make the car snap oversteer.

Elbow
08-29-2007, 07:20 AM
Here's something else to consider if you want to autocross. Any coilover sleeve or lowering spring is going to move you out of a stock class for autocross. This might put you into a class where your car won't be competitive and can make the learning curve much steeper.

The same thing applies to the rear sway bar, as well.

If you're really serious about beginning to autocross, then take the car in bone stock form and begin learning from there. If you get really bitten by the auto-x bug, then start talking to people about what does/doesn't work. The mods you want to do will change how the car does on course quite a bit. For example, the rear bar could make the car snap oversteer.

He wont win no matter what class he is in he can just go ahead and join a Prepared class :goodjob:

coolcat
09-01-2007, 10:39 AM
He wont win no matter what class he is in he can just go ahead and join a Prepared class :goodjob:


Lol, fuck you. jk, I know I can't drive, I'm not even gonna try and lie about it.

santacruz77
09-07-2007, 04:00 PM
but your a drifter

coolcat
09-07-2007, 05:37 PM
but your a drifter

Oh yeah.. woops I forgot.

Leadfoot_mf
09-09-2007, 05:05 PM
Well I just have a stock 90 civic 4dr, and I'd like to lower it (cheaply lol) and probably get a ST rear sway bar, since overall that would be about 150 dollars, and I'm on a rediculously low budget. My friend has a 240 and in my opinion it rides fine its just slightly slightly bouncy I don't know if it would be the same in my 4dr (his does have KYB gr-2's which I hear are just OEM replacement basically). Would it be a better idea to spend about 60 more and get the Megan coilovers? (the plain locking perch ones not full). Please don't recommend these 600+ dollar coilovers I'm WAY too poor for that, I just want a simple 1" drop and a rear swaybar so my car won't handle quite as shitty as it does now :goodjob:. As for doing autocross I've never even done it before but I would like to try it someday. I've got no racing experience at all so I'm going to do terrible but I'd at least like to have my car do a little better than a dead stock one. So what do yall think? $40 ebay's or $110 Megan's which look suspiciously similar to the ebays...

i say spend the money on a few auto crosses first see how u do.



if you are going to do anything do it right the first time do waste time and money doing it wrong.

coolcat
09-09-2007, 06:53 PM
That's probably the best way to go about thins, Leadfoot.


Oh btw, I love you.

coolcat
10-04-2007, 07:50 PM
Ebay's arn't bumpy you squealing pussies that say they are. Ebay's are going to be bumpy when you have your car slammed on stock shocks, but if you give the shock room to travel, and don't slam it, it's NOT that bouncy of a ride. I have them only in the rear right now just to see how it would handle, and there is only a TINY difference in ride comfort going down the road, so small that if I had not known about the spring change I would never suspect it.

Tech5
10-04-2007, 10:58 PM
^^ what he said

Benefit
10-04-2007, 11:18 PM
you get what you pay for

santacruz77
10-05-2007, 11:03 PM
he paid for them and likes them lol


i have some lasted me a long time and betting on them pretty hard nothing has happend yet.

mikespeed95
10-05-2007, 11:20 PM
i didnt feel like reading this whole thread, BUT since you posted in the COMPETITION forum im assuming you're asking from a performance standpoint, in which case:

springs, not "coilovers" but springs. ebay, sure they are a spring, hard to **** up leading to failure but proper performance probably not. but again, hard to **** up a spring.

"coilovers"

a spring with a shiny thingy (aka aluminum perch) gets easier to **** up. cheap/thin metal = break, uncoated sleeves = rust into place etc. bad idea all together imo.

now what you dont want to hear since you are shopping on ebay.

if you want to get into racing then you need to quit being such a cheap ass. theres no problem with being a cheap ass, just to an extent.

if you want to get into any form of competition basic maintenance is rule #1.

make sure your car is in 100% lexus certified pre owned condition. no rotted bushings, no fluid leaks, no ghetto ****, good oil pressure, cooling system etc in good shape.

then start modding from there.

imo tires 1st, if not a performance oriented wheel/tire package, which can consist of used aluminum 15's you bought for 100 bux from the junkyard and some cheap performance tires or something, not HRE's and hoosiers like everyone thinks for starters.

then get some sway bars/brake pads/clutch/real coilovers etc.

if you want to know what to run specifically, actually go race your car and you'll end up meeting people that will personally be more than happy to point you in the right direction.

Thighs
10-17-2007, 12:33 PM
the ebay coilovers arent as bad as everybody says. the only way they will bounce alot is if you have REALLY sh*tty shocks, or your car is too low. the springs wont be as high quality as eibach, tein, or any other name brand.

IMO, youre better off buying the coilovers AND new name brand springs. cheap adjustability + good spring rates is what your looking for. and dont go cheapo on shocks. while ohlins and motons might be out of the budget, you dont want cheap shocks. KONI FTW.

as far as autocrossing goes, autox your car in stock form first, and go from there. theres ALWAYS plenty of helpful people at those events.

Elbow
11-06-2007, 06:23 AM
i didnt feel like reading this whole thread, BUT since you posted in the COMPETITION forum im assuming you're asking from a performance standpoint, in which case:

springs, not "coilovers" but springs. ebay, sure they are a spring, hard to **** up leading to failure but proper performance probably not. but again, hard to **** up a spring.

"coilovers"

a spring with a shiny thingy (aka aluminum perch) gets easier to **** up. cheap/thin metal = break, uncoated sleeves = rust into place etc. bad idea all together imo.

now what you dont want to hear since you are shopping on ebay.

if you want to get into racing then you need to quit being such a cheap ass. theres no problem with being a cheap ass, just to an extent.

if you want to get into any form of competition basic maintenance is rule #1.

make sure your car is in 100% lexus certified pre owned condition. no rotted bushings, no fluid leaks, no ghetto ****, good oil pressure, cooling system etc in good shape.

then start modding from there.

imo tires 1st, if not a performance oriented wheel/tire package, which can consist of used aluminum 15's you bought for 100 bux from the junkyard and some cheap performance tires or something, not HRE's and hoosiers like everyone thinks for starters.

then get some sway bars/brake pads/clutch/real coilovers etc.

if you want to know what to run specifically, actually go race your car and you'll end up meeting people that will personally be more than happy to point you in the right direction.

STFU so many people use eBay springs. Or buy different rates from Eibach on the sleeve. Basic upkeep you can check over your suspension to make sure there is no rust or cracking. I have never had an issue with it.

Coolcat knows about racing stuff dont worry.

Why is clutch in your list?? lol :thinking: