90's sports cars

[Extrememustang]

So we all remember the 300zx,,3kgt,rx7 and supra. Now we have the 350z,evo (the smaller 3kgt but just as heavy)rx8. So do you think toyota would make something (supra)? They dumbed up the mr2(132hp) and the celica isnt a sports car. Side not thought the mitsu FTO looked neat but slow. Anyways any talks on this? Or do you think they wont becasue of gas mileages and crap.

[OneSlow5pt0]

Celica GT4 = a beast:ninja:

new supra + V8= Gay:gay:

[Ruiner]

So we all remember the 300zx,,3kgt,rx7 and supra. Now we have the 350z,evo (the smaller 3kgt but just as heavy)rx8. So do you think toyota would make something (supra)? They dumbed up the mr2(132hp) and the celica isnt a sports car. Side not thought the mitsu FTO looked neat but slow. Anyways any talks on this? Or do you think they wont becasue of gas mileages and crap.

I haven't seen a sports car listed in the post above 'cept for maybe the 3rd gen RX-7. :dunno:

By the way, the MKIV Supra TT is only about 150lbs lighter than most year model 3KGT VR-4s. The 300ZX TT was a heavy beast as well.

To answer your question, most people (including most car enthusiasts on this forum) could not afford a new Supra TT or 3KGT VR-4. The same with the 300ZX TT.

My '97 VR-4 ran $47,500 new. The Supra TT was around the same price as well. The 300ZX TT wasn't far behind. This is back in the mid '90s, remember. Not many people and no *teenagers* has this kind of cash laying around.

[OneSlow5pt0]

I haven't seen a sports car listed in the post above. :dunno:

By the way, the MKIV Supra TT is only about 150lbs lighter than most year model 3KGT VR-4s. The 300ZX TT was a heavy beast as well.

To answer your question, most people (including most car enthusiasts on this forum) could not afford a new Supra TT or 3KGT VR-4. The same with the 300ZX TT.

My '97 VR-4 ran $47,500 new. The Supra TT was around the same price as well. The 300ZX TT wasn't far behind. This is back in the mid '90s, remember. Not many people and no *teenagers* has this kind of cash laying around.

RX-7s were also in the the mid 40ks...thats y they didnt sell well...and i belive the VR-4 Vert was almost 60k

[koukis14]

Celica GT4 = a beast:ninja:

new supra + V8= Gay:gay:
I thought the new Supra was a V10?

[OneSlow5pt0]

well thats even gayer,if it does

[koukis14]

well thats even gayer,if it does

Nothing is gay about a 500hp v10 that revs to 8500 RPM.

[OneSlow5pt0]

Nothing is gay about a 500hp v10 that revs to 8500 RPM.

well its not hard to make 1000HP with the V6 so y does it need a V-10.

[Extrememustang]

the 95 vr4 spyder was very costly

[koukis14]

well its not hard to make 1000HP with the V6 so y does it need a V-10.

Is it getting hot in here??

[OneSlow5pt0]

im not taking off my clothes

[koukis14]

im not taking off my clothes

I was waiting for you to get flamed.

[OneSlow5pt0]

lol,i just dont understand...y it cant be a V6,i dont see anything wrong with the 6

[Crazy Asian]

OOO dont forgot the Prelude. 30,000 fully loaded.

[Ruiner]

RX-7s were also in the the mid 40ks...thats y they didnt sell well...and i belive the VR-4 Vert was almost 60k

Closer to 70k, actually.

[Ruiner]

lol,i just dont understand...y it cant be a V6,i dont see anything wrong with the 6

A "V" config isn't the best for making a lot of horsepower in comparison to the Inline-6. It has to deal with the engine's balance.

[koukis14]

lol,i just dont understand...y it cant be a V6,i dont see anything wrong with the 6

I thought you were saying the original Supra was a v6.

[OneSlow5pt0]

A "V" config isn't the best for making a lot of horsepower in comparison to the Inline-6. It has to deal with the engine's balance.

lol,o i feel stupid .

o and the VR4 spyder is so bad ass

[quickdodge®]

80's sports cars rule the roost. Later, QD.

[OneSlow5pt0]

i know nothing bout Supras

[ep9716]

Supras.....Man I Wish....

[RandomGuy]

80's sports cars rule the roost. Later, QD.

ftw

[OneSlow5pt0]

Rotary is so much more simple


also 80s cars are the shit

[Extrememustang]

I thought a INLINE 6 used less effort to get hp and was easier on the motor.

[Echonova]

Rotary is so much more simple


also 80s cars are the shitDon't make me post the rotary pic again.... Late 80's early 90's were the best years. Hell my current car is a '91. Not because I can't afford better. I choose not to. 16yrs old car FTMFW!!!

[RandomGuy]

I haven't seen a sports car listed in the post above 'cept for maybe the 3rd gen RX-7. :dunno:


i dunno

the evo for example

Nurburgring Track times:

8:05 --- 152.907 km/h -- Porsche 997 Carrera S
8:11 --- 151,274 km/h -- Mitsubishi Lancer EVO IX


at almost $100k less, does that make it not a sports car?

[Leadfoot_mf]

i dunno

the evo for example

Nurburgring Track times:

8:05 --- 152.907 km/h -- Porsche 997 Carrera S
8:11 --- 151,274 km/h -- Mitsubishi Lancer EVO IX


at almost $100k less, does that make it not a sports car?
no it doesnt it makes it a fast sedan.

[Echonova]

LOL, 4 doors is not a sports car. Fast, yes. But being able to go fast while carrying 2.5 kids and the dog does not make it a sports car. Although I've always wanted an EVO IV.

[Ruiner]

i dunno

the evo for example

Nurburgring Track times:

8:05 --- 152.907 km/h -- Porsche 997 Carrera S
8:11 --- 151,274 km/h -- Mitsubishi Lancer EVO IX


at almost $100k less, does that make it not a sports car?

Your logic astounds me...

[RandomGuy]

just an example i would use the Z car as an example, how is that not a sports car lol

the z32 twin, how does it differ from the FD twin, Its slower obviously, but all of the rest is there (just like it is with the evo),

the Zcar legacy (evo legacy)
the Zcar was at one point nissan's flagship.



I'm not hating or nothing, I just want to know what makes the FD a sports car as opposed to the z32 twin or the supra twin(two of my fav import sports cars btw)... It performs better at certain things.


And the evo IS a sports car... lol sports sedan, and a sedan is a car so sports-car
walaa

[Ruiner]

just an example i would use the Z car as an example, how is that not a sports car lol

the z32 twin, how does it differ from the FD twin, Its slower obviously, but all of the rest is there (just like it is with the evo),

the Zcar legacy (evo legacy)
the Zcar was at one point nissan's flagship.



I'm not hating or nothing, I just want to know what makes the FD a sports car as opposed to the z32 twin or the supra twin(two of my fav import sports cars btw)... It performs better at certain things.


And the evo IS a sports car... lol sports sedan, and a sedan is a car so sports-car
walaa

Maybe the Z32 coupe, but not the 2+2. For the most part, sports cars aren't supposed to be *that* heavy.

The Supra, however, IS a GT, not a sports car. That's like grouping the Mustangs in with "sports cars" as well. No.

[RandomGuy]

Maybe the Z32 coupe, but not the 2+2. For the most part, sports cars aren't supposed to be *that* heavy.

The Supra, however, IS a GT, not a sports car. That's like grouping the Mustangs in with "sports cars" as well. No.
the z32TT didn't come in 2+2

and even the 2seater is heavy as shit

but I fail to see how that would make it not a sports car, thats like its purpose in life, to carry on the Zcar tradition....

I had a similar argument with a friend a few weeks ago he was like true sports cars are mid engine rwd, cars that weigh shit and etc and etc... i'm like dude you're retarded

[Echonova]

Sports cars= Lotus Elise or Extige. Only true Sports car today. Power steering FTL. Carpet...FTL and an option.

[Extrememustang]

Yea I would love to have no power steering and go in a turn going fast.... NOT

[OneSlow5pt0]

350Z,corvette,M3s,Vipers,RX-7,Supras=coupes/sport coupes

M5s,STIs,EVOs=sport sedans

Enzo,Zonda,XJ220,=Super cars

[TheSnail]

This must be the definition of "sports car" by these definitions.

Mid engine
2 seater

http://www.ryanwright.com/fiero/85gt.jpg

[TheSnail]

Shits got dual exhaust aswell

[TheSnail]

And a spoiler

[TheSnail]

And now Im just post whoring

[OneSlow5pt0]

lol

[RandomGuy]

This must be the definition of "sports car" by these definitions.

Mid engine
2 seater

http://www.ryanwright.com/fiero/85gt.jpg
finally we all agree on something fiero ftmfw

those are not only great sports cars but I heard they are the only car that ran 2 minutes flat on the Nurburgring twice.








































IN REVERSE

[auxiliary]

well its not hard to make 1000HP with the V6 so y does it need a V-10.

Ok, not to flame you or anything--but I think you need to research more about cars before you start posting things.

It seems like every thread that I read you jump in with something knocking the motor of what ever the thread is talking about and then you say "Rotary's are the best they're easiest and you can make a bazillion horse power with a liter of displacement!"

Anyway....I don't feel the 300zx is a super car by any means. When in comparison to the rx7 and Supra. Both cars are extremely well built and I think the thing that sets them apart the most is styling. They really took a jump towards the future in the styling department for their respected years.

I mean ford gave us this, 1993 mustang

http://www.mustangforums.com/timeline/1993-ford-mustang/images/1993-ford-mustang-saleen.jpg

chevy gave us these....

http://www.usao.edu/jwmiller/images/redvet1.jpg

then out of japan comes the styling of the rx7, supra, and even the 3000gt...all look nice for what even a new car today looks like. To think some of their designs are almost 20 years old.

[osnap]

is it not fair to group the S2000 with the RX8, 350Z, and EVO? Especially with the new CR trim?

[Leadfoot_mf]

the stupidity in this thread astounds me. and its a car board.......

[SL65AMG]

well its not hard to make 1000HP with the V6 so y does it need a V-10.


Raw power (V10) Vs. Turbos to make the power (V6)

how many of you can say your car has a v10? maybe one or 2....

how many of you can say your car has a turbo v6? .... a hell of a lot more

[GSRteg®]

Man im all in when it comes to 90 cars. All this new shit aint nothing compared to old school shit. :goodjob:

[quickdodge®]

the stupidity in this thread astounds me. and its a car board.......

Lolol. I've seen better comments on sports cars over on Raggedy Ann and Andy message boards. Lolol. Later, QD.

[quickdodge®]

Man im all in when it comes to 90 cars. All this new shit aint nothing compared to old school shit. :goodjob:

90's cars aren't old school. Later, QD.

[Echonova]

90's cars aren't old school. Later, QD.Depends, if you're born in '89 they are..lol

[quickdodge®]

Depends, if you're born in '89 they are..lol

Sheeeet. If you're born in 89, you're not even old school. Lolol. Later, QD.

[man]

Yea I would love to have no power steering and go in a turn going fast.... NOT

I haven't had PS for over 2 years now and I like it twice as much. Especially at higher speeds.


80's sports cars rule the roost. Later, QD.

Quoted for truth.

[buddha@TeamFX]

This is old school and real muscle!!!

[man]

This is old school and real muscle!!!

but not a sports car

[SampaGuy]

They dumbed up the mr2(132hp)

:blah:

the mk3 mr2 is the best handling mr2 yet and is light as hell. plus u can easily swap in the celica gts motor (180hp?) and 6 speed

[OneSlow5pt0]

:blah:

the mk3 mr2 is the best handling mr2 yet and is light as hell. plus u can easily swap in the celica gts motor (180hp?) and 6 speed

i love the MR2-S

its got a werid tranny,dont it? clutch-less stick shift..right?

[B18c-rex]

Hay now the 300zx tt was a true sports car imo . Come on thats jdm muscle for all you haters out there . So what if it was heavy it had the power to back it up . And with a few mods was oh dare i say it .... an exotic killer :yes: .

[OneSlow5pt0]

in 1992 the TT 300ZX killed the Corvette on the track,but this was a pretty basic corvette,not top of the line

[JDMmuscle]

Toyota here in the states made there flagship sports car in the Lexus line man



SC300 sc400


Mines a 1995, still faster then most new sports cars

[auxiliary]

Toyota here in the states made there flagship sports car in the Lexus line man



SC300 sc400


Mines a 1995, still faster then most new sports cars

don't get me wrong...I know the supra and sc's are on the same platform....

but there is no way that an sc300 or sc400 is the toyota flagship car. In honesty when compared against the supra.

[koi]

I'm not even going to debate what a sports car is in my eyes.

But if your going for early 90's sports cars. I think you are missing the DSM's. Not as great as the others mentioned. But they belong before the fucking evo. Which I consider more of a early 2000's car.:goodjob:

[JDMmuscle]

Bro in japan the SC or "Soarer" is one of the most popular cars of the import scene


the SC and the supra are pretty much the same thing, BUT over HERE in the US the supra has a MUCH higher parts market

If you would go to japan you would see just as many soarer's if not more then you would supra, They are nicer, more classy, and believe it or not the 1jzge (non turbo) is a stronger engine then the 2jzgtte (supra motor) YES the supra motors turbo and made for higher presure, BUT the 2jzge is built better, Stronger.

iv seen many hybrids with the 2jzge block and te 2jzgtte head, this engine combo STOCK mind you, can withstand up to 12 psi comfortably with stock internals and can handle 500HP easy


the SC has a slightly wider wheel base but other then that same frame

Yes you may think supra is the higher seller of toyota... and in some case's maybe
BUT the SC was designed to be the higher end "supra" more luxury comfort.

in japan the Supra and SC are one in the same, and believe it or not, SC's sell more

[OneSlow5pt0]

im not a fan of supras.

[David88vert]

Lolol. I've seen better comments on sports cars over on Raggedy Ann and Andy message boards. Lolol. Later, QD.

Are you a mod on those boards as well?????:D

[Echonova]

.in japan the Supra and SC are one in the same, and believe it or not, SC's sell more
I refuse to believe. I think the Japanese are too cool to drive an SC. I didn't see any in F&F3.........

[nightracer]

Nothing is gay about a 500hp v10 that revs to 9500 RPM.
Thank you :goodjob:

well its not hard to make 1000HP with the V6 so y does it need a V-10.
Turbo lag owns 1000hp Supras. A 5L 500hp+ V10 at 9,500 RPM and the Volumetric Efficiency of a Honda would be pretty nasty. They say the new LF-A is actually going to have an exotic, exhaust note. Thats like an F430 or a Gallardo with a nasty tune. Add boost and it'll do that 1000hp on pump gas and spool quick. Thats why I'd go with the V10 over the TT I-6 any day.

Nissan will be releasing a 480hp GT-R and a 530hp Evo version before NISMO even gets their hands on it.

Honda is putting a 550hp V10 in the next NSX so Japan is officially making supercars now.
A new wave of performance is coming from the far east. Just keep an open mind.

[Gilgamesh]

didn't top gear do an episode on sports cars? or was it roadsters?

ok baseline for the definition of a sports car:
a car designed with weight, power, and handling all in mind.

[man]

I'm not even going to debate what a sports car is in my eyes.

But if your going for early 90's sports cars. I think you are missing the DSM's. Not as great as the others mentioned. But they belong before the fucking evo. Which I consider more of a early 2000's car.:goodjob:

Nothing with 4 seats can really be considered a sports car, they are more sport compacts.

[zoborax]

Thank you :goodjob:

Turbo lag owns 1000hp Supras. A 5L 500hp+ V10 at 9,500 RPM and the Volumetric Efficiency of a Honda would be pretty nasty. They say the new LF-A is actually going to have an exotic, exhaust note. Thats like an F430 or a Gallardo with a nasty tune. Add boost and it'll do that 1000hp on pump gas and spool quick. Thats why I'd go with the V10 over the TT I-6 any day.

Nissan will be releasing a 480hp GT-R and a 530hp Evo version before NISMO even gets their hands on it.

Honda is putting a 550hp V10 in the next NSX so Japan is officially making supercars now.
A new wave of performance is coming from the far east. Just keep an open mind.

Great! Another set of sports cars that 99.9999% of us cannot afford! I guess we'll have to wait until the late 2010's to even consider affording them, used and after they've been discontinued due to being extremely high in price!:(

[Tinton]

This must be the definition of "sports car" by these definitions.

Mid engine
2 seater

http://www.ryanwright.com/fiero/85gt.jpg

Heheh yeah that's like my cars, heh. I've got 2 Fieros.

I'd say they are sports cars, hell they're MR with full independent suspension and disc brakes all the way around (decent for a 80's sports car). I've had guys bragging to me about how their Supra is fuel injected and its a '86 model, when Fieros were always fuel-injected, right from the first '84 model.

BTW they don't have power steering either. It doesn't feel like they lack power steering though. I mean, you can't turn it with 1 finger like you can with my friend's Jetta 1.8T, but I can turn it 1-handed very easily. IMO the road feedback that you get without power steering is worth it, I've never been in a car that tells you so much about what its doing when its on the road.

80's cars FTFW. I was born in '85 though so I like 90's cars just as much. To me, the 90's were an era of Japanese sports cars, like the 60's were an era of American Muscle. I don't like any car made before about...1980 though. I hate carbs and the general lack of performance associated with the 70's. About 1984-2002 was the greatest era for cars I think. 2003-present cars have just been getting heavier. Even though they have more and more HP and torque, heavier still means a sacrifice in handling/braking is made.

[VooDooXII]

The Fiero's light enough up front to the point where you don't really need power steering though right? I mean, the Elise doesn't come with it either. I like Fieros.

I never realized how expensive those Japanese sports cars were...~$50,000?

My favorite had the be the 3000GT, simply because I loved how they looked. Did they ever offer this body style with the VR-4 package in the US?

http://images.andale.com/f2/118/126/11361216/2007/5/31/1999_3000_069.jpg

[{X}Echo419]

The Fiero's light enough up front to the point where you don't really need power steering though right? I mean, the Elise doesn't come with it either. I like Fieros.

I never realized how expensive those Japanese sports cars were...~$50,000?

My favorite had the be the 3000GT, simply because I loved how they looked. Did they ever offer this body style with the VR-4 package in the US?

http://images.andale.com/f2/118/126/11361216/2007/5/31/1999_3000_069.jpg

:yes:

[Ran]

1989-1996 Mazda MX-5 Miata

:D