Legality Question

[TheSnail]

If someone signs a bill of sale to their car to waiver their debt. Then goes and hides the car so it does not get repoed. Is that a criminal act of any sort on their behalf?

[quickdodge®]

Is the guy selling the car to someone else? Later, QD.

[TheSnail]

The guy has signed the bill of sale that states the transfer of ownership of the vehicle to the new owner to void the total amount of $XXXX previously owed to new owner.

[quickdodge®]

I'm not going to attempt to answer, lolol. I'm more lost than a gay man in Heffner's mansion. Later, QD.

[TheSnail]

lol I'll post the original bill of sale

[TheSnail]

Bill Of Sale




I ________________________ here by turn over the ownership of my

__________________ VIN number ______________________ to

_______________________ and ______________________ to void the total

amount of four thousand and nine hundred dollars ($4900) owed to _________________

and __________________.


Printed Name Signature Date

__________________________ ________________________ _____________

__________________________ ________________________ _____________

__________________________ ________________________ _____________

[TheSnail]

It copy and pasted wrong

[Sack Attack]

so what your saying is that someone bought a car on credit, paid a while, then decided they didnt want it, and isnt giving it back? Im lost....

[TheSnail]

The guy owes two people $4900 (for 1year and 4 months). Only thing of value he has is a 15 year old non running car. Guy signs the bill of sale friday, says he needs to get some stuff out of the car monday once he gets back from out of town. The two guys go monday to tow the car away only to find that the guy over the weekend has towed it away and hid it so it would not get legaly repo'd.

[TheSnail]

So if the guy does not own the car anymore wouldnt he be commiting GTA? Should the two guys contact the Police?

[disrupt]

the way i understand it,the minute they signed the bill of sale the car changed possession, so it's no longer his car to hide, he's hiding their car.

[TheSnail]

That is correct

[disrupt]

the two can either call the cops or sue i guess. there's no doubt about it. it's illegal.

[TheSnail]

The two would not sue since it would take his broke ass too long to pay them back. But the two will go to the police department tomorrow or the day after, repo the car and press charges depending on mood. Anyway +1 to all

[TheSnail]

You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to disrupt again.

You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to quickdodge® again.

[disrupt]

bummer

[Sack Attack]

ok i undersatnd......how did he end up paying 5k for a 15 year old car though?

also, I belive your friend has the right to call the police and tell them what happened

[Miranda]

Voya.. I don't know that a police officer will want to touch that. Since these two guys did not witness the removal of the vehicle from the property, he could say anything and there's no way to prove what happened.

Your friends' best chances are going to be a civil suit in magisrtate court for breach of contract.

In criminal court, the standard of proof is beyond a reasonable doubt.

In civil court, your friends need only meet the standard of 'by proponderence of the evidence.' which is much more flexible. If they can get his social security number, they can have the guy's wages docked.