young jeezy?

[Julio]

I did not know he was from macon?

:lmfao:

[cactusEG]

I did not know he was from macon?

:lmfao:

hes is ??? than y the fuck does he clame college park?


and paster troy isnt from ATL hes from agusta :yes:

[moses187]

they have to rep thugish for the music to sell.

[cactusEG]

they have to rep thugish for the music to sell.

yea true.. but what does this have to do about where thier from?

[BABY J]

Just like James Brown claimed ATL as well (Augusta). I can understand why it would be smart marketing for music labels - but I hate it when regular Joes do it. I saw it a lot when I was in the military.

BABYJ: Nice to meet you man -where are you from?
GUY: Atlanta
BABYJ: NO SHIT! ME TOO! What Zone? What high school did you go to?
GUY: ** silence **

..

GUY: See uhhh, See... what happened was, I was born in Crisp County - then I had moved w/ my grandma - and by the time school started, one time I had got suspended... and I my boy Tyrone took me to this mall over there by some aprtments... but we had moved before I could graduate ...and yesterday for lunch...:blah:


I mean dayum - if you are from Mayberry then rep your spot - shit! Saul Goode.

[cactusEG]

Just like James Brown claimed ATL as well (Augusta). I can understand why it would be smart marketing for music labels - but I hate it when regular Joes do it. I saw it a lot when I was in the military.

BABYJ: Nice to meet you man -where are you from?
GUY: Atlanta
BABYJ: NO SHIT! ME TOO! What Zone? What high school did you go to?
GUY: ** silence **

..

GUY: See uhhh, See... what happened was, I was born in Crisp County - then I had moved w/ my grandma - and by the time school started, one time I had got suspended... and I my boy Tyrone took me to this mall over there by some aprtments... but we had moved before I could graduate ...and yesterday for lunch...:blah:


I mean dayum - if you are from Mayberry then rep your spot - shit! Saul Goode.

i've always wonded how do the zones go in ATL.. i've always just called the place by the town name

[BABY J]

Basics -->

Zone 1 (West Atlanta)
Zone 2 (North Atlanta)
Zone 3 (Southeast Atlanta)
Zone 4 (Southwest Atlanta)
Zone 5 (Downtown-Midtown)
Zone 6 (East Atlanta)

[cactusEG]

Basics -->

Zone 1 (West Atlanta)
Zone 2 (North Atlanta)
Zone 3 (Southeast Atlanta)
Zone 4 (Southwest Atlanta)
Zone 5 (Downtown-Midtown)
Zone 6 (East Atlanta)

oh ok but what town in in what zone???

[BABY J]

http://www.scanfulton.com/LibraryArticle133.html

[Tasuki_Civic]

oh ok but what town in in what zone???


haha you need to google that guy.


its not where you from but its where you at.....

[twinj]

^ Very true. I don't give a shit where he from. Jeezy is my dawg. The reason people say "Atlanta" because it is the capital or city of Georgia. You know what I mean.

[Julio]

Jeezy is a fake Thug... this is more proof... hahaha gangsta from macon... Studio Gansta ftl.

[PhAtBoYMr2]

Jeezy ain't a gangsta he's a trapstar. Theres a difference the man moved alot of weight.

Bit his music is sick regardless, He gets mad respect from everyone all over atlanta

[BABY J]

As if "home" is hard to satisy? :thinking: My dog goes berzerk everytime I come home too. Jeezy = wack.

[twinj]

Basically^^ . Everyone Fuck with him he gets respect from just about all over. He is not a ganster he just a regular street nigga.

[Julio]

lol

[BABY J]

Enjoy:

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=%22young+jeezy+sucks%22

[Julio]

Everyone Does shit with Jeezy due the label he is in and the people who own his career...

DEF JAM.. ... JAY-Z.. IS making shit happen for this Studio gansta from macon.

[BABY J]

My favorite:

http://slumz.boxden.com/showthread.php?t=521737&page=2

[BABY J]

1 thing to be a local celeb/hero - and I respect ANY artist (no matter how garbage) who fakes it long/hard enuff to get their CD on the shelves at Wal-mart. Doesn't mean that he's good, but when you are REALLY good - u have a global appeal in my eyes - not just local.

[twinj]

Well shiiiiiieeeeeet. Wack,fake or whatever. This man getting that bread I can't do nothing but respect it. People confuse him with a lyricist. That man isn't a lyricist, and he saids that. Every artist is has there own craft and his is motivational speaker(IMO). If people quit listening to him as a lyricist. Besides the dope songs and all of that he is speaking some real shit.

[Julio]

I dont know whos he's motivating..... I guess you are right though.. aparently he has 1 million + idiots who look up to him...

Yeeeeeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhh hhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh...


But he's from macon...
Martin Luther Jeezy..

lol

You mean, he motivates all the wannabee "hustla's"

Sorry, I listen to rap/hip hop... and there is not on rapper out there that motivates me to do nothing.

So who ever gets motivated by listening to hip hop is not right in the head.

[Lizbiz101]

Well if you know anything about rap you know the mixtapes are HELL of a lot better than the actually shit that comes out in stores.....Jeezy be killin on the mixtapes!!!

[BB6dohcvtec]

I did not know he was from macon?

:lmfao:

i thought everyone knew that??? and whats up man you got something against macon lol. but seriously you guys didn't know this? but on a side note atlanta/macon are working together to get the old terminal stations back up and moving they have already hired contractors to get the work started so in their estimation less than 10 years from now macon and atlanta will be basically connected stretching out atlanta even more.

[BB6dohcvtec]

Well if you know anything about rap you know the mixtapes are HELL of a lot better than the actually shit that comes out in stores.....Jeezy be killin on the mixtapes!!!

+1

[BABY J]

Some people are just easily entertained I guess.

[Lizbiz101]

he is speaking some real shit. I agree. he don't have the hit songs that make people dance, "party like a rockstar" or "2 step" or "In love with a stripper" them the songs everybody know. Jeezy try to make hit singles like that, but he can't. Half the shit he says can't be played on the damn raido. He make hard songs for the people in the hoods, them the only people that can understand his music, and that's who he gets all his respect from. Other rappers see that, that's why he's in so many songs. Everybody be bustin some jeezy, and when I hear it, it's NOT the CD's he's got out in stores, it's NOT the songs he's got on the raido, it's the mixtapes.

[BABY J]

There are people in the "hood" - DJ's --> not eveb MCs putting out better mixtapes. So what's the point? If that's his audience then he better have a good investor. Pac was on the radio AND in the hood.

[Lizbiz101]

There are people in the "hood" - DJ's --> not eveb MCs putting out better mixtapes. So what's the point? If that's his audience then he better have a good investor. Pac was on the radio AND in the hood. What's the point of what??? and we arn't talking about Pac we're talking about jeezy, two different people....

[BB6dohcvtec]

nanh he doesn't need a good investor its just radio stations have changed what music they will play on the air now, pac was on the radio a lil over ten years ago and his music was hard real hard..now lets say his music came out now i bet it wouldn't be spinned as much as it was then because now most stations play that happy let's party like a rockstar while we're 2-steppin music. and most dj put jeezy somewhere on their mixtape lol.

[BABY J]

NVM - you obv do not get it sweetie. The simple truth is that outside of ATL, he doesn't have much respect. :)

[quickdodge®]

Jeezy is a fake Thug... this is more proof... hahaha gangsta from macon... Studio Gansta ftl.

Yup. Why would he rep Macon?

Representin that M-TOWN!!!!

Young Queezy sounds like ass. Looking forward to this fad moving on through. Later, QD.

[Lizbiz101]

nanh he doesn't need a good investor its just radio stations have changed what music they will play on the air now, pac was on the radio a lil over ten years ago and his music was hard real hard..now lets say his music came out now i bet it wouldn't be spinned as much as it was then because now most stations play that happy let's party like a rockstar while we're 2-steppin music. and most dj put jeezy somewhere on their mixtape lol. Amen to that!! x2

[BB6dohcvtec]

Yup. Why would he rep Macon?

Representin that M-TOWN!!!!

Young Queezy sounds like ass. Looking forward to this fad moving on through. Later, QD.

actually we call it the mac-town lol

[Lizbiz101]

Yup. Why would he rep Macon?

Representin that M-TOWN!!!!

Young Queezy sounds like ass. Looking forward to this fad moving on through. Later, QD. I don't think he ever rep. Macon....not that I heard. Everyone reps ATL a.k.a Atlanta, Georgia.

[quickdodge®]

actually we call it the mac-town lol

Lolol. Later, QD.

[Lizbiz101]

actually we call it the mac-town lol +1

[quickdodge®]

I don't think he ever rep. Macon....not that I heard. Everyone reps ATL a.k.a Atlanta, Georgia.

I know. I was stating that as sarcasm. Later, QD.

[Lizbiz101]

NVM - you obv do not get it sweetie. The simple truth is that outside of ATL, he doesn't have much respect. :) Jay Z isn't from Atlanta.....him and jay are pretty tight, R Kelly too, I don't think he's from Atlanta either. He has a song with him, if I remember correctly. Looks like he has some respect outside of Atlanta...

[Lizbiz101]

I know. I was stating that as sarcasm. Later, QD. I know, can't let you get away with that!! lol

[BABY J]

LOL. You think b/c artists collab they are "tight?" LOL. It's BIZNESS!!! They do not hang out on weekends. R. Kelly and JZ are BUSINESSMEN - he got a lil buzz, and they capitalized on it. It's no diff than every1 getting AKON to sing hooks on their tracks. Guess what happens when that "buzz" goes away... ABSOLUTELY NOTHING. We'll see who Jeezy is working w/ in about a year or 2... LOL. What PREMIER atl artist has collabed w/ Jeezy? Oukast? No - they ignore him... and for good reason - he ain't sayin shit... LOL.

[Lizbiz101]

haha did you say Outkast?!?! Where are they at now?? Out making lameass movies.

[Lizbiz101]

:lmfao::lmfao::lmfao::lmfao:

[TeeJay]

STFU about outkast

[BB6dohcvtec]

sorry liz can't be with you on this cause outkast is the shit...ppl might think their movies are lame but i like em'.

[kpc2593]

Damn, and I always thought he was str8 from ATL.

Well, Jeezy reps ATL cuz it's like a central rap distribution center. For ex, Newyork City, Detroit, Houston, New Orleans, Miami, etc.....ya ming?????

[twinj]

He is motivating people to get money.


haha did you say Outkast?!?! Where are they at now?? Out making lameass movies.
He is motivating people to get money. I respect Outkast but be real they are nothing like what they use to be 10-15 years ago. Yes they movies do suck,ie idlewild. ATL (big boi) was straight. Four Brothers(pretty good).


STFU about outkast
It is what it is bruh don't get mad. Truth Hurts :lmfao: :lmfao: :lmfao:

[quickdodge®]

I respect Outkast but be real they are nothing like what they use to be 10-15 years ago.

Exactly. Outkast used to be good. Now theyaren't. They stopped being "the shit" about 2-3 albums ago. Later, QD.

[quickdodge®]

Damn, and I always thought he was str8 from ATL.

Well, Jeezy reps ATL cuz it's like a central rap distribution center. For ex, Newyork City, Detroit, Houston, New Orleans, Miami, etc.....ya ming?????

Hmmm. Out of that list, only Miami and maybe Detroit should be there. I don't even know of anyone who claims New York City. Everyone claims their particular borough(Queens, Brooklyn, Harlem). Later, QD.

[BABY J]

LOL @ the people that think Outkast has fallen off. This proves that people just say retarded shit on the web w/out really knowing what the hell is going on. Speakerboxx was their best commercial success ever.

[quickdodge®]

LOL @ the people that think Outkast has fallen off. This proves that people just say retarded shit on the web w/out really knowing what the hell is going on.

Wow. Yea, because everyone knows I don't know shit about rap or hip hop.


Speakerboxx was their best commercial success ever.

Later, QD.

[Bballjamal]

I have to say!, I still HIGHLY dig outkast! Andre killed international players anthem! On the other hand, they are no longer "the shit", yet, they're the only ones I feel like mentioning when it comes to the best out of the south and specifically ATL as of the mid 90's-present.

[PhAtBoYMr2]

"I'm here now your old news
got a couple porsche trucks, couple old schools
I'll line your ass up and push your tape backwards
because i'm a real nigga and i don't like rappers
and that ain't this and this ain't that
and bitch i'm strapped
run with real niggas that will cut you throat
and they don't drink pepsi they just sell coke"

[quickdodge®]

"I'm here now your old news
got a couple porsche trucks, couple old schools
I'll line your ass up and push your tape backwards
because i'm a real nigga and i don't like rappers
and that ain't this and this ain't that
and bitch i'm strapped
run with real niggas that will cut you throat
and they don't drink pepsi they just sell coke"

See? This is what rap has been reduced too, lolol. Those lines are just trash. Later, QD.

[BABY J]

Oh I get it. Now we are gonna get into the "commercial" versus "hood' thing since I mentioned commercial. LOL. People are funny - who the FUCK wants to sing "ghetto-carols" to ignorant ass people their entire career?? NOTHING wrong w/ the hood - nothing wrong w/ reppin where you are from... but at the same time, there is NOTHING wrong w/ leaving that muthafucka either! LOL. That's the goddamned problem w/ urban youth too - I remember growing up in a certain ATL town and running in the street when "Frankie-Pain" would drive by in his Suzuki Sidekick w/ rims and friends would say "ooooh, there go Frankie-Pain, he's the biggest drug dealer out here!" Local idiotic ass wanna be ghetto celeb. LOL. As I got into mid/high school of course the cars got bigger and more flashy - and my 1st year in the Air Force he got taken down by the feds... one of the biggest drug busts in the metro. FOR WHAT? WHAT'S THE GODDAMNED point? I mean shit - it's obvious that he was smart - why not be smarter, stack some cash and get the fuck out? Same as Jeezy goin' to jail repeatedly for dumb ass stupid ass shit that 15 year olds are going to jail for. Honestly, that's an insult to every other struggling artist who actually HAS A CLUE but never got the break that he got. Fuck Jeezy.

[PhAtBoYMr2]

See? This is what rap has been reduced too, lolol. Those lines are just trash. Later, QD.


I think the entertainment section should be split up for all the old farts like you and julio and all the young cats should get there own shit.

Oh yeah those saying jeezy ain't "gangsta" he's actually runs with crips and is down with BMF

Truthfully when i first heard jeezy i didn't like him. But then i listen to the trap or die mixtape and he's on another level there...

[BABY J]

"I'm here now your old news
got a couple porsche trucks, couple old schools
I'll line your ass up and push your tape backwards
because i'm a real nigga and i don't like rappers
and that ain't this and this ain't that
and bitch i'm strapped
run with real niggas that will cut you throat
and they don't drink pepsi they just sell coke"

Say it isn't so. LMAO!!:no:

[quickdodge®]

Oh I get it. Now we are gonna get into the "commercial" versus "hood' thing since I mentioned commercial. LOL. People are funny - who the FUCK wants to sing "ghetto-carols" to ignorant ass people their entire career?? NOTHING wrong w/ the hood - nothing wrong w/ reppin where you are from... but at the same time, there is NOTHING wrong w/ leaving that muthafucka either!

You right in there's nothing wrong with leaving the hood. But when you leave the hood, you have to comply with the people helping you leave the hood. That means selling out what you really want to say and how you say it by saying what the record companies want you to say and how they want you to say it. I'm not saying everyone is this way(so don't twist that). And there are a lot of folks that don't want to go commercial out there. More that don't than do. I never said Outkast sucked because of their commercial status. But they aren't the same down home Outkast that got them into a position to go commercial. Later, QD.

[PhAtBoYMr2]

i guess you have to listen to the song or the lyrics won't make sense

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qGcZCvwh7SY

[quickdodge®]

I think the entertainment section should be split up for all the old farts like you and julio and all the young cats should get there own shit.

You're right. But, unfortunately, there isn't enough people on here who appreciate good rap to warrant an old school/good rap section.


Oh yeah those saying jeezy ain't "gangsta" he's actually runs with crips and is down with BMF

I never said that.


Truthfully when i first heard jeezy i didn't like him. But then i listen to the trap or die mixtape and he's on another level there...

Another level is right. Lolol. Later, QD.

[quickdodge®]

i guess you have to listen to the song or the lyrics won't make sense

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qGcZCvwh7SY

The lyrics don't make sense anyway? What kind of line is:

"and they don't drink pepsi they just sell coke"

That compares with "Stop. Check it out and listen" as the worst all time line in rap history, lolol. Later, QD.

[BABY J]

PhatBoy - come on man... that whole verse is predictable man. Niggas I was in high school w/ freestyling in between classes had more pipes than that. That's textbook shit man - for real. Textbook delivery - predicatable lines... you could finish that verse in your head the 1st time you hear it.

[Tasuki_Civic]

1 thing to be a local celeb/hero - and I respect ANY artist (no matter how garbage) who fakes it long/hard enuff to get their CD on the shelves at Wal-mart. Doesn't mean that he's good, but when you are REALLY good - u have a global appeal in my eyes - not just local.


not all true with most artist. and also it hasnt been too long to where hes been out in public like this. it T.I. a long ass time to get some play from the media. I remember (and i have the cd) when he was tryin to push his shit in the streets with his voice over other artist music. giving away free cd's

i cant begin to tell you how long ago that was. it takes a minute.

i think gangsta and a pusha is 2 different things

[PhAtBoYMr2]

The lyrics don't make sense anyway? What kind of line is:

"and they don't drink pepsi they just sell coke"

That compares with "Stop. Check it out and listen" as the worst all time line in rap history, lolol. Later, QD.

It was in reference to cocaine not coca cola. LOLOL

and being from atlanta you have to understand it's a subliminal

[Tasuki_Civic]

i dont like him like that. and his voice gets on my nerves but you have to give the man props from his music and his stand point. hes not a terrible artist but he aint no biggie either.

[PhAtBoYMr2]

PhatBoy - come on man... that whole verse is predictable man. Niggas I was in high school w/ freestyling in between classes had more pipes than that. That's textbook shit man - for real. Textbook delivery - predicatable lines... you could finish that verse in your head the 1st time you hear it.

Thats why he isn't a rapper he's a "motivational speaker"

he speaks to people that can relate to his music, if you can't relate to it you won't understand it.

[Tasuki_Civic]

It was in reference to cocaine not coca cola. LOLOL

and being from atlanta you have to understand it's a subliminal


haha QD he is right. lol that one went over your head

[quickdodge®]

It was in reference to cocaine not coca cola. LOLOL

I know that. But that was elementary school shit. It wasn't something that made me think..Goddamn that was some dope words. It went from letting people know that they don't drink soft drinks, they sell drugs.


and being from atlanta you have to understand it's a subliminal

I'm not from Atlanta. Lolol. And again, I get the subliminal part. Later, QD.

[Tasuki_Civic]

Thats why he isn't a rapper he's a "motivational speaker"

he speaks to people that can relate to his music, if you can't relate to it you won't understand it.


agreed just like every artist in the world ...unless you sing. THEN maybe you can complain.

[quickdodge®]

haha QD he is right. lol that one went over your head

No it didn't. Goddamn, you guys must not remember that I'm not an idiot. I do have common sense. Later, QD.

[BABY J]

You know what QD - what it boils down to is that times are changing. What these kids see as "talent" these days is diff than what we think. People WANNA hear "Laffy Taffy" and dumb shit anymore. LL couldn't buy a grammy nomination until he put J-Lo on a track---- J LO!!!!! LOL - this shit is just going downhill, and I swear I want no part in it. And real talk, I am a better than mediocre musician in my own right. Kids just wanna hear ghetto carols these days, and that shit sells. Fuck it. :)

[quickdodge®]

Thats why he isn't a rapper he's a "motivational speaker"

he speaks to people that can relate to his music, if you can't relate to it you won't understand it.

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL!!!!!!!!

I graduated from elementary school, too. Later, QD.

[BABY J]

PhatBoy - no sir. That verse is garbage. I bet even Jeezy will tell you that. LOL. Has nothing to do w/ "understanding" it - who couldn't? I'ts middle school shit!

[BABY J]

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL!!!!!!!!

I graduated from elementary school, too. Later, QD.

+1

[Tasuki_Civic]

I know that. But that was elementary school shit. It wasn't something that made me think..Goddamn that was some dope words. It went from letting people know that they don't drink soft drinks, they sell drugs.



I'm not from Atlanta. Lolol. And again, I get the subliminal part. Later, QD.


it dont matter QD. i HATE E40. He sounds like shit to me and he cant rap for nothing in this world! i dont understand shit he says and he is always making up stupid ass words that pple think is cool. WHO GIVES FUCK? say something meaningful to me as well even tho hes all they way in cali.

***its not gonna happen. its a required taste and on top of that i have to be where hes from to understand what hes talkin about. or i have to like how he sounds then try to understand his lingo. everyone is different thats what makes them unique

[BABY J]

E-40 is proven. That recipe works. He can't even be compared in this debate IMO.

[quickdodge®]

it dont matter QD. i HATE E40. He sounds like shit to me and he cant rap for nothing in this world! i dont understand shit he says and he is always making up stupid ass words that pple think is cool. WHO GIVES FUCK? say something meaningful to me as well even tho hes all they way in cali.

***its not gonna happen. its a required taste and on top of that i have to be where hes from to understand what hes talkin about. or i have to like how he sounds then try to understand his lingo. everyone is different thats what makes them unique

You have zero room to talk down to me like you're teaching me something. You're insulting my intelligence by posting to me like I can't understand what is going on or how a rap verse is laid out. It doesn't take "where you're from" to understand a goddamn rap verse. It takes common sense and an understanding of subliminal messaging to get an inside look at a line. And you can try and turn this around and think you're going to hurt my feelings by bringing E-40 into this, but it won't work. I don't get my feelings all mashed up when someone talks about an entertainer from where I'm from. Later, QD.

[Tasuki_Civic]

E-40 is proven. That recipe works. He can't even be compared in this debate IMO.



BULLFUKIN SHIT! he proven. he sounds like shit. id say a waste of good artist if you ask me. fuck all that shit he does. i dont care what anyone thinks hes worthless no one understands his ass but pple from cali and they even have a hard time understanding his lingo and pple who like how his music sounds.

i hate both his voice and his music. its terrible. i turn the station every chance i get. yea i may not like him but others do. he is no better tha Jezzy to me. i dont like jeezy like that either. so i know how i feel about it. but that dont mean its written in stone. other pple like him cause they can relate and/or like his music.


juelz santana i dont like his lyrics but i like his music. so i know his songs. simple as that. no matter how good an artist is someone will hate or like what they do.

[PhAtBoYMr2]

uh oh

~leaves thread~

[Tasuki_Civic]

You have zero room to talk down to me like you're teaching me something. You're insulting my intelligence by posting to me like I can't understand what is going on or how a rap verse is laid out. It doesn't take "where you're from" to understand a goddamn rap verse. It takes common sense and an understanding of subliminal messaging to get an inside look at a line. And you can try and turn this around and think you're going to hurt my feelings by bringing E-40 into this, but it won't work. I don't get my feelings all mashed up when someone talks about an entertainer from where I'm from. Later, QD.

Q-Deeeee????? what are you talking about. im not like everyone else on here trying to insult you so you can put that defensive card down. i was just sayin that you may not like him but others do. he aint the best in your book overall but to some others he is. lol stop gettin defensive. why would "I" insult your intelligence. im not that kinda girl ;) (NOTE that wasnt being sarcastic either) im not that kind of person

[quickdodge®]

BULLFUKIN SHIT! he proven.

Actually he is. And the comment about him not being understood in Cali? Ok. Funny how this went to turning this into another rapper thread bash when people say something bad about "their" rapper. But I won't continue to discuss Forty Water in this thread. Lolol. Later, QD.

[Tasuki_Civic]

but i really dont like him at all. i tried for years to like his ass and listen to what he says but its hard for me to give him a chance. and i have common sense and an understanding of subliminal messaging to get an inside look at a line or i wouldnt like rap music at all. or any music what so ever.

[quickdodge®]

Q-Deeeee????? what are you talking about. im not like everyone else on here trying to insult you so you can put that defensive card down. i was just sayin that you may not like him but others do. he aint the best in your book overall but to some others he is. lol stop gettin defensive. why would "I" insult your intelligence. im not that kinda girl ;) (NOTE that wasnt being sarcastic either) im not that kind of person

What you were saying, though, was that since I'm not from Macon, I can't possibly understand what Queezy's undertones are about. Since I don't know what he's been through, I don't know what his subliminal intentions are. Later, QD.

[Tasuki_Civic]

Actually he is. And the comment about him not being understood in Cali? Ok. Funny how this went to turning this into another rapper thread bash when people say something bad about "their" rapper. But I won't continue to discuss Forty Water in this thread. Lolol. Later, QD.


lol i dont like young jeezy. at all as i stated b4. hes annoying cause he keeps sayin his name and all that shit. yea he sounds like he does A B C rap as well. i agree. but dont down tha man cause he makin it big. some pple like the way he sounds and raps and can relate to him. same as E40. but i dont see how with either one.

[BABY J]

Hmm... he has released a SELLING album damn-near every year since 1993 I think - proven. PERIOD. And him being proven doesn't depend on if you like him or not. Talk about the FACTS instead of putting your emotions in it.

[Tasuki_Civic]

What you were saying, though, was that since I'm not from Macon, I can't possibly understand what Queezy's undertones are about. Since I don't know what he's been through, I don't know what his subliminal intentions are. Later, QD.



No no no i said if your are not from there oor you dont understand what he is saying doesnt mean that he is terrible. maybe it wasnt meant for you to understand. and it was meant for another audience. you may think its bad but so what there a billioins who do. i mean as far as the whole macon , ga things goes. whatever let the man claim what he claims. every other artist has.

[Tasuki_Civic]

Hmm... he has released a SELLING album damn-near every year since 1993 I think - proven. PERIOD. And him being proven doesn't depend on if you like him or not. Talk about the FACTS instead of putting your emotions in it.


lol im not putting emotions in it. you got the wrong idea. like said he aint been out in public like that but so long and E40 is ancient anyway. Dude is like 45 yrs old. he better make some selling cds or he really aint shit.


LOL im just sayin yalll...im just sayin.

[BABY J]

Back on topic... Jeezy? :thinking: Wack. And trust me - I'm not hating, there are a lotta of artists that are nothing more special than you would find in a karaoke bar. Jeezy is mediocre - real talk. It's okay to like him - just don't be "star struck" by an artist so much that he can do no wrong in your eyes. And a lot of people are simply star-struck by mediocre Jeezy.

[Tasuki_Civic]

Back on topic... Jeezy? :thinking: Wack. And trust me - I'm not hating, there are a lotta of artists that are nothing more special than you would find in a karaoke bar. Jeezy is mediocre - real talk. It's okay to like him - just don't be "star struck" by an artist so much that he can do no wrong in your eyes. And a lot of people are simply star-struck by mediocre Jeezy.


:umno: whateva...i dont like him.

[quickdodge®]

No no no i said if your are not from there oor you dont understand what he is saying doesnt mean that he is terrible.

I never said anything about being from Macon makes him terrible. I never said that because I "don't understand what he is saying" meant hat he is terrible. The fuck??? You keep bringing up that you think I don't understand the goddamn shit. I understand every goddamn line in that set and any other set.


maybe it wasnt meant for you to understand. and it was meant for another audience.

I quit. Later, QD.

[BABY J]

:umno: whateva...i dont like him.

Then that means I wasn't talking to you then.... LOL. :boobies: :D

[Bballjamal]

I would've joined this debate if my computer liked IA and didn't abort operation every other thread click!

[BABY J]

You just joined it. :) What do u think?

[BB6dohcvtec]

wow i take a two hour nap and this thread blows up...but getting back off topic to civic about the e40 comment :thinking: thats all im doing about that one cause e40 is proven and has withstand the time of old school to being able to do this bubbly shit (he is the shit and more than proven). Jeezy he might abc rap but i like his albums, but i like his tracks that he does on mixtapes even more. Maybe it might be because i am from macon and i can understand the messages lmao :lmfao:

[seriousb13]

E-40??:lmfao: . Don't compare his gay shit to Jeezy.

[BABY J]

^^ If you have nothing to offer to the debate other than that retarded ass post then go away.

[quickdodge®]

Exactly. Especially when it's obvious you don't know what you're talking about. Later, QD.

[BABY J]

LOL. Kids.:rolleyes:

[Tasuki_Civic]

LOL i admit he is a classic cause hes been around....but i dont like non of his shit. i didnt say hes wack but i damn sure dont like him. but tis my opinion and so it is yours. but doesnt mean that in a few yrs he could be a classic as well. YOU GUYS just dont like him. and neither do i.

[BABY J]

You are emotionalizing it AGAIN. Show me once where I said I do or don't like him. That decision is PERSONAL. What I DID say is that he is predictable and mediocre - THAT is a fact w/out me getting personal about "how I feel" about it (I like him, or I don't like him). See what I mean? You don't debate Hank Aaron w/ "I don't like him, or I do." You debate it w/ facts - stats... numbers.

[BABY J]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Young_Jeezy

[Tasuki_Civic]

You are emotionalizing it AGAIN. Show me once where I said I do or don't like him. That decision is PERSONAL. What I DID say is that he is predictable and mediocre - THAT is a fact w/out me getting personal about "how I feel" about it (I like him, or I don't like him). See what I mean?


its a statement of your opinion bootyhead!! you see some other pple feel different. now if you show me some document of majority pple feeling the way you do and showing other rappers lyrics compare and contrast his shit. then i will understand that it is a fact.

his shit sounds like everyone elses that has no means of speaking about anything that is of importance. soo....go thru all that reseach and i will believe you. lol until then baybay :boobies: ....its your opinion. ;)

[BABY J]

its a statement of your opinion bootyhead!! you see some other pple feel different. now if you show me some document of majority pple feeling the way you do and showing other rappers lyrics compare and contrast his shit. then i will understand that it is a fact.

his shit sounds like everyone elses that has no means of speaking about anything that is of importance. soo....go thru all that reseach and i will believe you. lol until then baybay :boobies: ....its your opinion. ;)

EXACTLY! Medicore at best, and not even consistently medicore. Most of the time a lot worse. LOL. Thank you for proving my point so perfectly. I love you! Let's do dinner.:D

[Tasuki_Civic]

Thank you for proving my point so perfectly. I love you! Let's do dinner.:D


go back and read what i wrote. ive always said that. but look i still dont like e-40. LOL the only difference between the two is e-40 just raps fast and terrible.

[BABY J]

Yeah, and 40 actually has talent and Jeezy doesn't. But those are the only differences. True.:taun: :cheers:

[Tasuki_Civic]

Yeah, and 40 actually has talent and Jeezy doesn't. But those are the only differences. True.:taun: :cheers:


LOL talent to make up new words.....oooooh he mastered the talent of ebonics.

other than that he should stay local

[seriousb13]

^^ If you have nothing to offer to the debate other than that retarded ass post then go away.

i offered my opinion to say E-40 is wack!!:bannana: .

[quickdodge®]

Why bother posting just to put that crap. You have nothing to add than that? You're an idiot who has no idea about anything rap related except what you hear on 107.9. Shut the fuck up until you can put some relevancy in your posts. Later ,QD.

[seriousb13]

Exactly. Especially when it's obvious you don't know what you're talking about. Later, QD.

You fucking act like you know anything about Jeezy too. I was just saying shit. ANd i know for god damn fact that everyone else on this topic is just saying shit.

[quickdodge®]

You fucking act like you know anything about Jeezy too. I was just saying shit. ANd i know for god damn fact that everyone else on this topic is just saying shit.

I know for a goddamn fact that I know much more about this music genre than you could think possible. You know for a goddamn fact.....nothing. Later, QD.

[seriousb13]

How do you know more about RAP? Is it because you READ what the rappers do in their lives??

[quickdodge®]

Don't worry about how I know what I know. Worry about how you need to brush up on your knowledge if you want to talk with the scholars. Later, QD.

[seriousb13]

WTF?? You make no fucking sense. You were the one who was WORRIED about my OPINIONS and started judging me because of a comment.

[quickdodge®]

I wasn't "worried" about shit. I was making a statement. And I never judged you, either. I told you to make worthwhile comments instead of just randomly popping in with crap. Later, QD.

[BABY J]

seriousb13.... you're OBVIOUSLY not so "serious" mmmkay Pumpkin? Although you just MIGHT "be 13" based on reading your posts. Ur posts have no direction, no thought process. Aside from a few jokes, most of the posts are well put together posts by people who have offered meat to the debate. Either up the ante w/ some well thought-out shit or just look and listen. For real.

[BABY J]

seriousb13.... you're OBVIOUSLY not so "serious" mmmkay Pumpkin? Although you just MIGHT "be 13" based on reading your posts. Ur posts have no direction, no thought process. Aside from a few jokes, most of the posts are well put together posts by people who have offered meat to the debate. Either up the ante w/ some well thought-out shit or just look and listen. For real.

Booyyyyyyyy, you crack me the phuck up.:D You on ya way, you on ya way to bein something great.

[seriousb13]

I didn't know this was a debate. I thought it was about where Jeezy's from.

[quickdodge®]

I didn't know this was a debate. I thought it was about where Jeezy's from.

If I would have known that you were going to prove your intelligence here, I never would have done it myself. Even if this thread had never gone over to Queezy's worth, you still came in here with a crack about E-40. And, as regualr people could see, this was a discussion without any miniscule, juvenile retorts such as the ones you brought through. Now if you'd like to pull your skirt down, let your sack drop and post with a form of wisdom, then by all means, have at it.

If not, then don't get so hurt when people address you as "Madam." Later, QD.

[seriousb13]

ok, sir??? If you wanted to WIN in the discussion. I would of gave it to you hands down.:bow:




If I would have known that you were going to prove your intelligence here, I never would have done it myself. Even if this thread had never gone over to Queezy's worth, you still came in here with a crack about E-40. And, as regualr people could see, this was a discussion without any miniscule, juvenile retorts such as the ones you brought through. Now if you'd like to pull your skirt down, let your sack drop and post with a form of wisdom, then by all means, have at it.

If not, then don't get so hurt when people address you as "Madam." Later, QD.

[quickdodge®]

I'm actually not trying to WIN anything. Later, QD.

[Julio]

Outkast Was cool and then, they got SMART... they dont want nickel and dimes of CD sales and Tours....

They started acting to make REAL money$$$$$$$$...
Someone said they are making lame movies...

One lame movie payment = to 5 or 6 million in record sale money.. wow are they dumb...? lol

Jeezy is wack.... I mean, GA is a place where they almost made Mike Jones a super hero.. c'mon!

Phatboy.. me old? c'mon bro.. im in my mid 20's.. hahaha
most of the rappers you are sweating are older them me ... lol

Jeezy is wack.. Only reason he's selling and making noice is because , really.. theres not much out there.. T.I and who else?????? and T.I is way better.....
Jeezy is a STUDIO drug dealer,hustla,playa, pimp and all that shit....

Jeezy smartest move was trying to take shots at NAS.. hahahahha... Help some of us seal the deal on his stupidity level... hahah

NAS = GOAT

Jeezy = Studio wanksta

lol...

Yeeeeeeeeeeeeeahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

The sun has shine on the snowman... lol

[BABY J]

^^ You sir are a God. FINALLY some1 has a clue. Check please.

[BB6dohcvtec]

Outkast Was cool and then, they got SMART... they dont want nickel and dimes of CD sales and Tours....

They started acting to make REAL money$$$$$$$$...
Someone said they are making lame movies...

One lame movie payment = to 5 or 6 million in record sale money.. wow are they dumb...? lol

Jeezy is wack.... I mean, GA is a place where they almost made Mike Jones a super hero.. c'mon!

Phatboy.. me old? c'mon bro.. im in my mid 20's.. hahaha
most of the rappers you are sweating are older them me ... lol

Jeezy is wack.. Only reason he's selling and making noice is because , really.. theres not much out there.. T.I and who else?????? and T.I is way better.....
Jeezy is a STUDIO drug dealer,hustla,playa, pimp and all that shit....

Jeezy smartest move was trying to take shots at NAS.. hahahahha... Help some of us seal the deal on his stupidity level... hahah

NAS = GOAT

Jeezy = Studio wanksta

lol...

Yeeeeeeeeeeeeeahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

The sun has shine on the snowman... lol

mid-20's damn son you are almost at that senior citizen status lol j/k for some reason i thought you were older, well im 22 so we are around the same age i guess....but on to topic jeezy=serious his rhymes mayb elementary but he raps about what he knows and the shit hits yea t.i. is wayyyy better but he also has put out more albums then jeez i see them on the same lever cause every album they grow an get better on each one.

on a side note: T.I.'s best album has to be "I'm Serious"

pz

[quickdodge®]

TI was beeter than Queezy will ever be on TI's first album. Later, QD.

[BABY J]

I was almost done w/ this until some1 said they see them on the same level - THA FUCK?? Maybe we are talking about a different T.I and a different Jeezy... for sheeezy.

[jamaicanDM]

Blah blah blah to most of this thread....Jeezy shout out Macon on alot his songs. Most of the people on here that are running there mouth dont even own a jeezy cd or a mixtape they're just going off the few singles that they might hear on the radio. The man rep where he's at and where he's been. Go back to one of his first album "Just Come Shop wit me" he reps Macon and Atl. Big Boi rep ATL, and he's from Sav. so wahts the big deal....Street cred, Jeezy. as far as being a lyrical, he's ok. Most people like Jeezy because of his swagger and the shit he talks about because its the Truth not n made up shit. Face it hip hop/rap whatever you wanna call isnt the same anymore. That Nas/Jay Z shit was good but the new generation has a different taste in music and its def. not the slow ass shit. Thats just music, out with the old shit and in with the new.

[Julio]

Fuck No.. I dont own a Jeezy CD.. just going off what I hear on the radio? lol...

So you like his swagger?? hahah what a fag... What street cred? huh?

Not the slow as shit? WTF ? what style Jeezy? hahah hes definetly no Fushnicken..

JAY- Z was good? wtf you talking about? that 40 year old mofo still going plat

[BABY J]

Blah blah blah to most of this thread....Jeezy shout out Macon on alot his songs. Most of the people on here that are running there mouth dont even own a jeezy cd or a mixtape they're just going off the few singles that they might hear on the radio. The man rep where he's at and where he's been. Go back to one of his first album "Just Come Shop wit me" he reps Macon and Atl. Big Boi rep ATL, and he's from Sav. so wahts the big deal....Street cred, Jeezy. as far as being a lyrical, he's ok. Most people like Jeezy because of his swagger and the shit he talks about because its the Truth not n made up shit. Face it hip hop/rap whatever you wanna call isnt the same anymore. That Nas/Jay Z shit was good but the new generation has a different taste in music and its def. not the slow ass shit. Thats just music, out with the old shit and in with the new.

I sometimes diablo hood. Wrecker. Noodles are faster gray. I milks a cow. Hump.:screwy:

[jamaicanDM]

Fuck No.. I dont own a Jeezy CD.. just going off what I hear on the radio? lol...

So you like his swagger?? hahah what a fag... What street cred? huh?

Not the slow as shit? WTF ? what style Jeezy? hahah hes definetly no Fushnicken..

JAY- Z was good? wtf you talking about? that 40 year old mofo still going plat


Chill man, why u taking it personal, its true half of the peole that was talking dont own a jeezy cd, i didnt say U didnt. Rap aint the same, its a new generation and the shit we might like (mid 20's) the younger generation dont and they are the ones that buy the cds. Compare most new rappers to Jay Z/Nas its completely dif. I called it slow shit not in a bad way because thats the shit i came up listening to. All this new shit is all about fuking dancing, money, hustling, and bitches.= and thats what selling now...

[quickdodge®]

its true half of the peole that was talking dont own a jeezy cd

You're probably right. Most people wouldn't waste money on it. I can almost guarantee you that out of all the people that do have a Queezy CD, probably downloaded it.

,
Rap aint the same,.
You're exactly right. It's getting worse and worse every year. Later, QD.

[Lizbiz101]

"I'm here now your old news
got a couple porsche trucks, couple old schools
I'll line your ass up and push your tape backwards
because i'm a real nigga and i don't like rappers
and that ain't this and this ain't that
and bitch i'm strapped
run with real niggas that will cut you throat
and they don't drink pepsi they just sell coke" That was from his album not a mixtape. Come with some mixtape stuff next time. We already know the CD's he come out with arn't good.

[Lizbiz101]

I think the entertainment section should be split up for all the old farts like you and julio and all the young cats should get there own shit.

Oh yeah those saying jeezy ain't "gangsta" he's actually runs with crips and is down with BMF

Truthfully when i first heard jeezy i didn't like him. But then i listen to the trap or die mixtape and he's on another level there... You got it right!!! That's what's up!!

[BABY J]

* sigh *

Nite turds. Get me those lyrics.

[Lizbiz101]

Most of the people on here that are running there mouth dont even own a jeezy cd or a mixtape they're just going off the few singles that they might hear on the radio. Hell yeah!!! You speakin the damn truth!!

[Lizbiz101]

By far my FAVORITE lyrics from Jeezy

"I know God’s watching over me so is the Feds
When love turns to hate and niggas rather you dead
Lord have mercy, Jesus Christ
All that I’ve done will you protect my life?
Maybe, maybe not, until then I keep an extra clip for that Glock
You wanna see my bank statement; I got no problems with that
300 thousand you know I’m smarter than that
I been dodging the alphabet boys all my life
So you gonna need more than a child support lawyer
I got some child support for you,
Get off your ass bitch and get you a job
Tell your other 3 baby daddy’s to sell dope or rob
My son got everything in this world that I never had
So one thing you can’t call me is a deadbeat dad
When you’re the one that shoulda been exposed
Unfit mother still playin withcha nose
And I don’t wanna tell my child that his moms aint shit
And this aint about him she just a money hungry bitch"

That's from his Can't Ban the Snowman MIXTAPE....lol

[BB6dohcvtec]

lol yea the entertainment section should get the split that would be funny....i think i would still be on both cause i like music from both era's but yea i say they are still bout equal, now if you want to get technical with the album sales jeezy first cd out sold ti's first cd by a lonnnnngggg ways. but to the old farts as phatboy put it( other than QD) who are stuck in the 80's/early 90's ya'll gotta evolve with the music or take notes from QD and support your argument for the discussion at hand, because you are going to be getting into alot of them with this young audience. pz

[quickdodge®]

now if you want to get technical with the album sales jeezy first cd out sold ti's first cd by a lonnnnngggg ways.

Oooh, no. That's the other way around:

Young Jeezy ...... 1,062,686 as of May 24, 2007 - released July 26, 2005
T.I. ................. 990,751 as of December 28, 2005 - released August 19, 2003

It took 2 years for Jeezy to reach platinum while it took Tip about a year and a half. Later, QD.

[BB6dohcvtec]

damn i stand corrected.....but hey he still moved more copies :ninja: lol

[BB6dohcvtec]

hmm i knew those dates on that t.i cd was a lil off i am talking about both their first cds. so i dunno which t.i cd u were looking at but his first cd was titled "I'm Serious" which was released in October 2001

[quickdodge®]

We're talking first major release CDs, aren't we? And TI's "Trap Muzik has outsold Queezy's. Later, QD.

[Bballjamal]

T.i's first cd flopped, his label dropped him, trap muzik gave him success

:paraphrased from song: not that it matters :thinking:

[Lizbiz101]

too bad you can't count how many MIXTAPES jeezy sold.....

[Bballjamal]

too bad you can't count how many MIXTAPES jeezy sold.....


T.I is no slouch on mixtapes........jackin fo` beats anyone

[BABY J]

I think you people are confused on what a Mixtape is. A mixtape is no neccessarily produced by the artist. I can put a Jeezy mixtape together and sell it. Mixtapes are nothing but hood buzz... if it don't got a barcode on it then fuck it. The mixtapes are meant to give the DJ/MC a buzz - NOT the artist.

[Bballjamal]

yea, mixtape sales don't translate to that artist getting paid unless they have a contract with the DJ for putting their new and un-released tracks onto that specific dj's tape....

[BABY J]

exactly.

[quickdodge®]

Yup. Later, QD.

[BB6dohcvtec]

We're talking first major release CDs, aren't we? And TI's "Trap Muzik has outsold Queezy's. Later, QD.

i am talking about first major label cd period. i dunno bout up there but down here i'm serious got promoted like no other, yea first cd was prob a flop but i went out and bought it and that shit was serious. if anybody has it bonus track 18 with lil jon and pastor troy was hittin. but yea back to topic first major label cd.

[Lizbiz101]

Say whatcha want, but he's still one of the greats to me!!! I don't care how many albums he sold, or who's out sellin him. He's doin a hell of alot more for the people in the streets than a lot of other rappers out there. He don't give a damn about sellin the most albums, he's about motivating people that's going through what he's been through, lettin them know you can come from not havin shit, to havin more than you could imagine, he's gettin his word out to the people in the streets, through mixtapes, he ain't doin it for the fame. I'm sure some of ya'll don't understand. He came from havin nothing to having more than what he could ever dream of. That's what he's all about. Last time I checked he was the man on these streets.

"Went from old school chevys, to beamer coupes"

"I used to hit the kitchen lights cockroaches everywhere. Hit the kitchen lights now its marble floors everywhere."

"Im what the streets made me a product of my environment. Took what the streets gave me a product of my environment. Now its 28 inches on a brand new hummer"

"There's a message in my words you gotta decode it"

HA HA!!

[BABY J]

One of the GREATS??? LMAO!!!! BWA BWA BWA BWA BWA HA HA!!! So who else is one of the "greats"?

[Lizbiz101]

you left out the "TO ME" part.....Don't expect too much outta you, you just argue to argue....lol

[quickdodge®]

Who is a great? Later, QD.