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Benefit
05-29-2007, 01:42 PM
some more pics
when i took out the engine...
http://img101.imageshack.us/img101/4288/hdsjk001ss6.jpg (http://imageshack.us/)
engine sitting on a little trolley
http://img101.imageshack.us/img101/7743/ghshj001pa9.jpg (http://imageshack.us/)
pulled off the intake/exhaust mani's
http://img46.imageshack.us/img46/6689/jug002xt4.jpg (http://imageshack.us/)
The bare block turned around...im building this on the floor..no engine stand :wgaf:...2 of my friends offered for me to borrow theirs but idk never got around to it...
http://img116.imageshack.us/img116/9080/1008764ns9.jpg (http://imageshack.us/)
another shot of the bare block
http://img517.imageshack.us/img517/9051/1008748dk5.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
The table of the entire bottom end waiting to be put in after my ACL bearings get here...
http://img521.imageshack.us/img521/2926/1008765vh6.jpg (http://imageshack.us/)
My room with the entire top half of the engine...yes this is where i sleep.
http://img519.imageshack.us/img519/7653/1008767oo1.jpg (http://imageshack.us/)
A drawer full of ziplock baggies labeled with parts to exactly where the go on the engine. over 40 bags.
http://img103.imageshack.us/img103/9695/1008768lz1.jpg (http://imageshack.us/)
my dresser with parts from the engine bay (intercooler piping, strut bar , heater hoses and alternator/starter)
http://img518.imageshack.us/img518/1154/jug001bn2.jpg (http://imageshack.us/)
the upper oil pan...cleaned the outside with Engine Brite degreaser and the inside with gasoline...did the same with the lower oil pan also..gas..(this is below the table with the bottom end parts, radiator,driveshaft and shroud are sitting around here too)
http://img183.imageshack.us/img183/3130/1008770sl8.jpg (http://imageshack.us/)
Benefit
05-29-2007, 02:17 PM
if anyone is wondering why im building its because i spun a rod bearing in cylinder 3 coming home from last varsity.
..hopefully it should be done before the next one..
ordered ACL bearings...should have been here already but stupid memorial day
ordered headgasket. should be here tomorrow
bought a new crank because mines was fubar.
bought new rods and pistons because my cylinder 3 rod was bent.
Echonova
05-29-2007, 02:31 PM
My wife would kill me if I had parts all over the house like that..lol Good luck with the build!
Benefit
05-29-2007, 02:39 PM
lol just a corner of the garage and my room...
Greddypacked
05-29-2007, 04:02 PM
:lmfao: at least your not worried about any parts missing or stolen.
Benefit
05-29-2007, 04:03 PM
^^ made no sense...
organization is key...it is a bit overkill but better safe than sorry.
TheChosenOne
05-29-2007, 04:08 PM
good shit man... we are in the same boat. Ziplocks are my fucking best friends right now.
Benefit
05-29-2007, 04:09 PM
hahaha ziplock's and post-it-notes...cant ever have enough of them.
HalfBaked
05-29-2007, 04:23 PM
Yea...I pretty much just put all my bolts and parts into a box and let them mix up.
Benefit
05-29-2007, 04:34 PM
lmao halfbaked...that would be crazy. potpourri of bolts
Turbodude06
05-29-2007, 05:49 PM
Yea...I pretty much just put all my bolts and parts into a box and let them mix up.
^^^ LOL yea that wouldn't work for me either I had lables on everthing, when I did my swap, I used cups instead of bags, LOL.....
Benefit
05-29-2007, 06:09 PM
swap and build wayy different...when i did my first swap i didnt label anything just went ahead and did it.
BlueHatch
05-29-2007, 08:07 PM
oooo damn if i had my top end sitting on the carpet like that i would be shot. then thrown out. my wifey gave me the garage and it is F'n chaos in there. bump for your organization. i envy you my friend. think you could sell me some of your ocd? :D
Benefit
05-29-2007, 09:59 PM
lmao OCD ftw...i had some tarp i was gunna throw down but im gunna overhaul my room soon anyways so carpet i dont care about but i laid down some old shirts anyways..
Krappy
05-29-2007, 10:21 PM
LOL your mommy didnt say anything? AHHA
Benefit
05-30-2007, 02:03 AM
did your mommy say anything when i took a dump on your carpet?
Benefit
06-01-2007, 12:17 AM
stupid retard sent me a FWD headgasket for the SR20...going to have to wait until i get a new one or if nissan has any in stock or nopi...doubt it
GSRteg®
06-01-2007, 12:26 AM
Nice bro
TIGERJC
06-01-2007, 12:26 AM
yo you already have the motor out, now is the perfect time to put a real motor in it (2jz or 3sgte). :D
Benefit
06-01-2007, 12:42 AM
hahaha yota lover. N4L man N4L
(nissan 4 life)
TIGERJC
06-01-2007, 12:58 AM
did u measure your crank to make sure no damage was done to it
:goodjob: for doing your on work
Benefit
06-01-2007, 01:22 AM
oh...the crank lol...i just looked at it and threw it in the trash, it looked like 40 grit sandpaper on one of the journals..
.bought another one...still going to plastigage and everything...
TRDwasiq
06-01-2007, 01:47 AM
oh...the crank lol...i just looked at it and threw it in the trash, it looked like 40 grit sandpaper on one of the journals..
.bought another one...still going to plastigage and everything...
Actually i am the one who is doin the build:) he is just takin pics and stuff;)
wish me luck:goodjob::goodjob:
Benefit
06-01-2007, 11:06 AM
yea its true
Benefit
06-01-2007, 11:13 AM
DRFTR empty your PM box!
Kevykev
06-01-2007, 06:56 PM
What caused the spinnage?
How many miles on the motor?
TRDwasiq
06-01-2007, 07:03 PM
What caused the spinnage?
How many miles on the motor?IDK:ninja:
i think motor has around 50k
Kevykev
06-01-2007, 07:07 PM
??????
I'd be pissed if mine did that - i drive conservatively for the most part - but it gets kicked when it needs to be.
Benefit
06-01-2007, 07:18 PM
yeah, the motor has around 50~60k, from what ive read and heard, SR20's have an oiling problem in cylinder 3 and are real oil hungry...turbo was eating oil, i think i had a bad front seal..alot of blow by so yeah it was deprived of oil.
Kevykev
06-02-2007, 01:00 AM
Was the oil pan dented?
TRDwasiq
06-02-2007, 01:18 AM
Was the oil pan dented?
no it was'nt
Benefit
06-02-2007, 06:36 PM
got my bearings in today...worked for the past 4 hours putting the bottom end together...
Installed main bearings
Installed crankshaft
Installed crank caps with new bearings
installed rods and pistons with bearings
installed rod caps
installed bearing beam (girdle)
installed oil pick up
installed rear main seal
installed oil pump
installed water pump
installed oil filter plate
installed upper oil pan
installed oil pickup
installed baffle plates
installed lower oil pan
installed engine mounts
installed flywheel
installed clutch/pressure plate
installed timing chain w/ guides
installed alternator bracket
installed alternator and belt
installed crankshaft pulley
uhmm thats about it until my new headgasket gets here cause some idiot sent me a fwd one...or else i would of gotten it running today
Benefit
06-02-2007, 06:39 PM
and the piccy's after all the work was done...(i dont really take breaks for anything, only after im done,which is why there is only 2 pictures lol)
http://img167.imageshack.us/img167/199/1008844ij3.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img181.imageshack.us/img181/660/1008845uw2.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
TRDwasiq
06-02-2007, 06:53 PM
good JOB:)+1 for ya
Kevykev
06-02-2007, 06:55 PM
Good Work so far!
Benefit
06-02-2007, 07:14 PM
thank you...damn i get too hasty , almost thought about reusing my old head gasket and just starting her up tonight...but i think im gunna wait...new one should be here by wednesday...
Benefit
06-03-2007, 03:15 AM
how she sits at the end of the day...(just put the head on there for now, and the VC, if i was really this close i would still be working on it)
http://img300.imageshack.us/img300/3281/1008846xj7.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
Ltdnismorace
06-03-2007, 10:05 AM
looks real good man, If I lived down there I would have definately helped you out
Benefit
06-03-2007, 11:06 AM
hey ltdnismorace you decide to keep the 240?
TheChosenOne
06-03-2007, 12:13 PM
berry nyce! +1 sammie...+1, indeed. lol.
Benefit
06-03-2007, 07:12 PM
got some oil/tranny fluid/oil filter/purple power...pressure washed my bay but it still looks bad..
koukis14
06-03-2007, 09:56 PM
Damn I miss turning wrenches. I can't wait till I have the place and money to work on my car.
Benefit
06-04-2007, 08:54 PM
ok well...i RE-ordered a head gasket...HG will be here friday , its only like 1 hours more worth of work and 1 hour dropping her in...
all i have to do now is...
install headgasket
install head
install cams w/timing chain
install valve cover
then BAAM! longblock done..
THENNNNN
intake manifold
turbo manifold w/turbo...
1 hour tops.
TRDwasiq
06-04-2007, 08:58 PM
got some oil/tranny fluid/oil filter/purple power...pressure washed my bay but it still looks bad..
everything is new except purple power:) and one of the gear oil bottle
and we are goin to varsity;)
Benefit
06-05-2007, 12:08 AM
yea just checked tracking number , it will be here friday.damnit
Benefit
06-09-2007, 03:09 AM
bitches
http://img244.imageshack.us/img244/341/1009079sl5.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img118.imageshack.us/img118/2879/1009081lb5.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
(http://imageshack.us)
Benefit
06-09-2007, 11:39 AM
http://img407.imageshack.us/img407/5663/1009077ld2.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
HalfBaked
06-09-2007, 12:42 PM
If it was a ka-t it wouldn't have broke.
Benefit
06-09-2007, 01:00 PM
hahahahha
Benefit
06-09-2007, 03:07 PM
well its all in the car...all wired up...transmission is on , driveshaft is on...intercooler piping , all the spark plugs and coil packs...all the fluids are in , oil, gear oil , coolant...
but nothing is getting power! not even interior....had my bro jump start it but i have a optima red top anyways...the radio wont even work....and i could play cd's when the engine was out of the car!
HalfBaked
06-09-2007, 03:09 PM
did you hook up the battery?
Benefit
06-09-2007, 03:10 PM
lol yeah man...i even exchanged it with my dads van battery...
the clock is just blank......i pulled a couple fuses but not ALL...stupid things wont come out...ill try taking them all out in a bit...but still wouldnt explain the problem of the headlights
HalfBaked
06-09-2007, 03:15 PM
You check the fuseable links? Maybe something is grounding out and blowing them.
Benefit
06-09-2007, 03:17 PM
interior fuse box or the one in the engine bay? oh and i can hear the fuel pump priming...and when i use the keys to deactivate the alarm , i get power everywhere...as in cluster lights up , alarm chimes...
HalfBaked
06-09-2007, 03:21 PM
Engine bay, it sounds like a similar problem a friend of mine was having, his power steering lines were grounding out and blowing fuses.
Benefit
06-09-2007, 03:23 PM
dont have power steering or a/c...cut those wires off...ill check my grounds in a bit...i took a bunch of pictures of all the grounds before i took out the engine but my bro deleted them all cause it was making the camera "slow"
Benefit
06-09-2007, 03:35 PM
eh all the fuses are good...........i think its an interior thing
TRDwasiq
06-09-2007, 03:55 PM
man wht happned to the mount?? ass hole and u better rep me
GSRteg®
06-09-2007, 04:07 PM
Bump
Benefit
06-09-2007, 04:26 PM
^^ thanks
Benefit
06-09-2007, 07:05 PM
still no power...
Benefit
06-09-2007, 07:36 PM
i really hope all it is , is a dead battery
TRDwasiq
06-09-2007, 07:42 PM
i hope so;)
Benefit
06-09-2007, 08:15 PM
ok well its not the battery...
Benefit
06-10-2007, 04:19 PM
ok well the 75a FL was blown in the engine bay compartment...i linked it together temporarily and bam...i get interior lights and everything..radio, clock...but still no power to the starter.
Benefit
06-10-2007, 05:29 PM
used a DVOM to check for power on the starter...not getting power to the wire that controls the solenoid...dont know what to do next..
Benefit
06-11-2007, 06:19 PM
ok i think ive narrowed it down to these 2 wires that come from the main WIRING harness that bolt into the intake manifold and connect with 2 other wires...and those 2 other wires are conjunctioned into a black box that leads into the starter plug...
thic picture can explain it
http://img481.imageshack.us/img481/8935/1009100wc7.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
IndianStig
06-11-2007, 07:17 PM
Goodluck getting that fixed. Electrical problems are a bitch. Goodjob on the build to you too, can't wait to see this thing move.
TRDwasiq
06-11-2007, 08:36 PM
yellow goes on left and blue goes on right. take it out and put it back it in that order
Echonova
06-12-2007, 04:26 PM
Update?
Benefit
06-12-2007, 05:43 PM
UPDATE*** AFTER ABOUT 2 DAYS...I FIGURED OUT THE PROBLEMS , STARING AT THE FSM FOR HOURS ON END..NOT EATING ANYTHING lmao...but i got it...
so in my wiring harness...theres was this white wire which goes into some relay , which then turns into 4 other wires...weird huh...i just eliminated the relay completely and took that white wire , spliced in a connector for the starter tab and bam....power everytime....starts up perfectly
but she doesnt pur like she used to....theres this horrible ticking coming from the head, i have a bad oil leak...
im going to go make a trip for some oil , coolant and spark plugs....im having the same misfire i used to before i built the engine...so im guessing plugs are bad...going to get some BKR7 colder step
the car sounds alot louder and meaner now...but i dont like it...:no:..probably because i used the same turbo>elbow gasket...
im just so relieved it started it up on the first try...but the ticking from the head...:???:...going to pop the valve cover soon...cant really start her up too much because a) no coolant , just water b) no oil , it all leaked out
Benefit
06-12-2007, 06:13 PM
drove her around for a bit...boost comes out of nowhere now...i think its just a slipping clutch or grease on the flywheel still...havent really floored it...should there be a break-in period even though i used OE everything?
Kevykev
06-12-2007, 06:27 PM
should there be a break-in period even though i used OE everything?
everything that is NEW requires "break-in"
Good luck with straigtening everything.
Benefit
06-12-2007, 06:40 PM
i see...1000 miles under 3k rpm's right?
Benefit
06-12-2007, 07:57 PM
nope, have something knocking again...
TheChosenOne
06-12-2007, 08:04 PM
damn sammy... whats wrong??? That sux. call me if you need any help
Benefit
06-12-2007, 08:38 PM
oil pump is dead...
RandomGuy
06-12-2007, 09:13 PM
ah damn what a way to piss you off lolol i guess you gotta rebuild again
i dunno why you didn't see why you spun a bearing to begin with, that was the reason you spun it the first time around most likely
damn that sucks you gotta do it all over... just get some forged pistons and some eagle rods lol
but yeah your name is Sammy? Oh really did you ever have a starion, also is your license plate SR20DET, if so I think i know you.
Benefit
06-12-2007, 09:27 PM
nah...i met you at malibu when i was with Atif after you gave him a test drive.
but yeah im not entirely 100% sure its bearing again...might be bent valve from before....because it was ticking right when i started up the engine for the first time...even with a dead oil pump it wont overheat so fast that the bearings will fail within 5 seconds...
debating whether to sell the car as is and start a new "life" again lmao...
Benefit
06-12-2007, 09:28 PM
im not too mad about it , if it turns out its dead oil pump and bearing failure im going all out build this time....
TRDwasiq
06-12-2007, 09:46 PM
U SUCK AT LIFE:) wasted all my hardwork:(
Benefit
06-13-2007, 01:24 AM
eh oil light wasnt on...
i just took out the entire engine OUT and the intake and exhaust mani's and heater hoses..../////perseverance for what it counts.lmao.
i suck.
Benefit
06-13-2007, 01:30 AM
and as the saying goes.
do it right or pay twice
cheap 240sx owner pay double
ah fuck i cant beat myself anymore for this...
http://img481.imageshack.us/img481/8525/1009119ib3.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
Benefit
06-13-2007, 01:33 AM
it started and that was the best feeling...drove it around and heard tapping again...ehhhhhhhhhhhhhhh give me another week for parts to get here
swolejamaica
06-13-2007, 01:39 AM
damn kid
Benefit
06-13-2007, 01:43 AM
jerrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrry why didnt you tell me this would happpppen
Benefit
06-13-2007, 01:51 AM
not entirely sure if the culprit is the oil pump or bearings but likely , yes....
maybe bent valves...ill be sure tomorrow
http://youtube.com/watch?v=zPKJeKHtvhY
TRDwasiq
06-13-2007, 02:33 AM
as i said above who is gona pay for my hardwork??/ u nah i dont think so
Benefit
06-13-2007, 05:03 PM
pulled off the head
pulled the oil pans , front cover ,....basically a bare block...
after i pulled the pan i found this little metal tooth that chipped off from the front cover in the oil...theres 2 little teeth at the bottom of the cover , could this be the knocking?
pulled the upper pan , from what i can SEE the bearings look fine....theres no play in the rods and caps so wtf?
Maniaç
06-13-2007, 05:22 PM
Very nice, +3
Benefit
06-13-2007, 05:46 PM
lmao manic...
Benefit
06-13-2007, 05:46 PM
i just tore apart the entire bottom end...looks to me like one of the rod cap nuts was loose....the rod cap itself was halfway closed...all the bearings look fine.
Benefit
06-13-2007, 05:58 PM
took off the girdle for further inspection...one of the ROD CAP NUTS WAS LOOSE WTF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
TRDwasiq
06-13-2007, 06:21 PM
i told u frm the begining that nut was loose u dont fuckin listen to me
Benefit
06-14-2007, 01:08 AM
before i even took out the engine right
RandomGuy
06-14-2007, 01:59 AM
you put in ACL bearings right? lolol
might as well throw some ARP rod bolts on there this time around they aren't that expensive
also, when you put the head bcak on did you adjust the valves again that coulda been the ticking... if it was top end tick lol instead of the knock.
but yeah good to hear that its solved and no joke i dont remember meeting you ( i have a bad memory) Sammy?
TRDwasiq
06-14-2007, 02:03 AM
sami he is not the FAt guy we met with atif man he is someone els:)^^6
GSRteg®
06-14-2007, 02:33 AM
Looks good.
Benefit
07-15-2007, 09:23 PM
WELLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLl
i finally found the courage , determination , strength , will , power , perseverance and all that good stuff to put my drive shaft in...lmfao...
car drives nice as fuck , pulls alot harder then before , but my starter is going out :(
stupid money pit 240's....and SR starters are one of a kind, what are the odds of that.
green91
07-15-2007, 11:12 PM
Who the fuck builds a motor and leaves rod caps loose?
TRDwasiq
07-16-2007, 12:26 AM
apparently he did:(
sleepys4
07-16-2007, 02:56 AM
Glad to hear you are back up and running.
Benefit
07-16-2007, 04:36 AM
Who the fuck builds a motor and leaves rod caps loose?
lmfao, see the thing was..............................if it was too tight then the motor wouldnt spin freely...2nd time around i torqued them down and worried about the motor spinning freely afterwards...you live and you learn , then get Luvs.
AnthonyF
07-16-2007, 09:17 AM
stupid retard sent me a FWD headgasket for the SR20...going to have to wait until i get a new one or if nissan has any in stock or nopi...doubt it
try Dover Heads too. :goodjob: we work with them very often.
+1 for baggies!
green91
07-16-2007, 08:08 PM
lmfao, see the thing was..............................if it was too tight then the motor wouldnt spin freely...2nd time around i torqued them down and worried about the motor spinning freely afterwards...you live and you learn , then get Luvs.
if this was the case the bearing clearance was to tight.. not a torque issue lol. i didnt mean to come across so harsh its just something thats a mandatory thing!
Benefit
07-18-2007, 11:06 PM
yeah man it was my first build and i totally accept the mistake...but it runs good now...
except for the HLA's having air in them from the head being turned upside down n shit...
it will need a starter ( I think) because it starts up with a full charge of battery but no less...
does anyone know if the SOHC internals will work with the sr's starter housing
pakiman626
08-14-2007, 11:48 AM
wow man u have quite a build here... i bought one of these as well actually a week after u said u were gonna come look at my m3...mines gonna be on the road in about 2-3 months but i didnt keep it stock:D ....ya i still got the m3
RISKYB
08-14-2007, 01:00 PM
at least it wasnt to costly of a lesson learned congrats
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