Good Rappers

[Benefit]

this is a list of some of the best lyricists in my opinion...not in any particular order

1) Big L
2) Immortal Technique
3) Fabolous
4) Cassidy
5) Nas
6) Jadakiss
7) Jae Millz
8) Mobb Deep
9) Rakim
10) Shyne

probably leaving out people , discuss.

[quickdodge®]

As there are probably 10,000 threads on this very subject, I'll stay clear of this one, lolol. Later, QD.

[Benefit]

.im talking about northern rap

[Benefit]

QD listen to immortal technique and if you cant appreciate his lyrics then i dont know what to say...

[Benefit]

i see the world for what it is, beyond the white and the black
The way the government downplays historical facts
'Cuz the United States sponsored the rise of the 3rd Reich
Just like the CIA trained terrorists to the fight
Build bombs and sneak box cutters onto a flight
When I was a child, the Devil himself bought me a mic
But I refused the offer, 'cuz God sent me to strike
With skills unused like fallopian tubes on a dyke
My words'll expose George Bush and Bin Laden
As two separate parts of the same seven headed dragon
And you can't fathom the truth, so you don't hear me
You think illuminati's just a fuckin conspiracy theory?
That's why Conservative racists are all runnin' shit
And your phone is tapped by the Federal Government
So I'm jammin' frequencies in ya brain when you speak to me
Technique will rip a rapper to pieces indecently
Pack weapons illegally, because I'm never hesitant
Sniper scoping a commission controllin the president

[quickdodge®]

oh yeah cause your that LA compton compton khaki suit bandana and chucka's guy...forgot....im talking about northern rap

Hmmm. I'm not really sure if you're trying to be an asshole or not on this.


QD listen to immortal technique and if you cant appreciate his lyrics then i dont know what to say...

So let me get this straight. If I don't like Immortal, that means I don't know shit about rap? Maybe you should get this straight. I can almost guarantee you that I know as much, if not probably more, about rap and hip hop than you do. Later, QD.

[Benefit]

you probably do know more because you have been around longer than me no pun intended...but rakim?? big l...classic

[quickdodge®]

Always been a fan of Eric B & Rakim. Later, QD.

[Benefit]

i left out biggy...dont like all that much tupac except like hail mary and all eyez on me and stuff

[quickdodge®]

I was never a Pac listener. I was certainly never a Biggie person. Hated all his shit. Later, QD.

[Benefit]

yea i dont know why tupac is always glorified over biggy... always....

oh and dead prez too...

[quickdodge®]

The reason why I don't get involved with these threads is because my favorite rapper quit rapping about 20 years ago, lolol. I'm strictly old school. Dislike anything after 1995-96. Later, QD.

[Benefit]

whose that??...o shit tigerjc is here

[TIGERJC]

1. Jay Z
2. Nas
3. Method man
4. 2 pac
5. Old Dmx
6. Dead prez
7. Andre 3000
8. Ludacris
9. Jadakiss
10. Lupe Fiasco

I have a lot more

[Benefit]

i like that list except for andre 3000 and ludacris...wow someone else listens to dead prez...i thought i was the only one...

[Benefit]

i just posted this thread to see what other people listen to...i know im forgetting alot of people...QD can you name any other underground rappers or old school shit...

[Mr_Mischif]

What about krs-1

[Benefit]

yeahhh there we go...

[404S2K]

1. mos def
2. talib kweli
3. lupe fiasco
4. krs-one
5. common
6. dead prez
7. NaS
8. method man
9. rakim

all north - midwest i.e chicago.

[Benefit]

mos def is good but a ripoff of immortal technique...well they did a song together so i dont know...

talib kweli fell off big time...

lupe , i dont really know hes alright

krs1 - great

method man is good too

[ep9716]

Ya Nice List I Would Add
Bone Thugs
Easy E
Cypress Hill
And Everything On Your List Really.

[404S2K]

talib still got some great stuff.

mos's new cd is straight.

gotta listen to all of lupe's cd you'll come around.

[Benefit]

i used to like bone thugs alot until their most recent CD which i just threw away.

cypress hill...kind of remind me of Necro , those crazy rappers..

[Benefit]

talib still got some great stuff.

mos's new cd is straight.

gotta listen to all of lupe's cd you'll come around.

yea lupe makes good stuff too, daydreamin...american terrorist.., just that kick,push thing kind of threw me off until i actually listened to him. hes muslim too.

[Benefit]

Wu-Tang too...

C.R.E.A.M, straight up classic...pinky ring (playing now)

[ep9716]

^^^ Ya The New Cd Which I Hate To Say Cuz I'm A BIG Fan Is Trash.

[Benefit]

i know how you feel...mobb deep joined g-unit and i was just like woww...but i still occasionally listen to their old shit but they sold themselves out

[cactusEG]

.im talking about northern rap

none they all suck.. but if i had one it would be biggy

[Benefit]

gang starr...what happened to him

[Benefit]

none they all suck.. but if i had one it would be biggy

HA! i guess your the type that likes beats and not lyrics. do you roll down your windows at a stoplight and turn your volume up to the new nelly.

[Julio]

this is a list of some of the best lyricists in my opinion...not in any particular order

1) Big L < Wash out
2) Immortal Technique < gets no respect.. Lamer
3) Fabolous < You like High heals
4) Cassidy < Another washout
5) Nas < Def good.. Maybe the best on your list
6) Jadakiss < Has corny punch lines...
7) Jae Millz < lol
8) Mobb Deep < Old MOBB deep was tight.. New MOBB deep SUCKS
9) Rakim < Rakim WAS ok. Only reason he was hot, was because he was diff
10) Shyne < Decent.. But Hasnt really SHINED yet.. hopefully when he comes out of jail he will do his thing. his 1st album rocked.. 2nd.. crappy

probably leaving out people , discuss.


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[Benefit]

lol julio i kind of agree with you on alot of stuff, except for why you said immortal technique gets no respect?? lol @ the shyne comment..godfather buried alive man what do you except he made that album in prison!

[Benefit]

big l wash out??? hes dead...

[cactusEG]

HA! i guess your the type that likes beats and not lyrics. do you roll down your windows at a stoplight and turn your volume up to the new nelly.

FUCK NO and fuck nelly and yes im more into the beats than hearing the same shit every one raps about.. i like ATL and TX and some LA rappers and i think its dumb to have ur car blasting other ppls dont wont to listen to my shit..

[Benefit]

same shit everyone raps about?? i know like 2-3 guys on my list rap about the same shit but tech, krs-1 , rakim, big l...all great...

lyrics make the artist not the beats...but atlanta's mindset is different

oh my bad , its outside peanut butter inside jelly right??

[Julio]

BIG L was a wash out.. Thats why he never took off. I know he was shot and killed...
He try to rhyme to hard, thats why He was never played on radio or banned , whatever..

But C'mon we all know if you try make a group with Murder mase aka MASE.. we all know shit is going to be wack... Even though... He did have JAY Z and CAMRON on one of songs back in 94 or 95.. who wouldve thought JAY was going to be King daddy of commercial hip hop

lol

[Benefit]

i dont like any song that plays on the radio lol.

[Benefit]

i used to be SO much into nas , i bought all of his cd's and even his video dvd which i was watching the other day...but i dont know when he started calling himself god's song and stuff... but he is still one of the best lyricists

[cactusEG]

same shit everyone raps about?? i know like 2-3 guys on my list rap about the same shit but tech, krs-1 , rakim, big l...all great...

lyrics make the artist not the beats...but atlanta's mindset is different

oh my bad , its outside peanut butter inside jelly right??

thats a lyric and i told u i dont realy care for lyrics some.. and that beat fucking sux

[Benefit]

i rather listen to acapella's...i guess your the instrumental type

[XanRules]

I like Ludacris and some more obscure guys, too, like Aesop Rock [yes I know he's white].

Anyone here ever listen to Dizzee Rascal? He's a fucking SPAZ.

[Benefit]

so if lil jon said YEAAAAAAAAA the whole song , yet the beat was fire, it would be a good song in your book?

[Benefit]

I like Ludacris and some more obscure guys, too, like Aesop Rock [yes I know he's white].

Anyone here ever listen to Dizzee Rascal? He's a fucking SPAZ.

that british idiot

[quickdodge®]

Too Short
Eazy E
Ice Cube
MC Ren
KRS1
Rakim
LL Cool J - before Walk Like a Panther
Grandmaster Melle

That's some of my likes. Later, QD.

[Benefit]

too short??

grandmaster melle...now i see what time period you were talking about lol

[quickdodge®]

Damn, homey. Never heard of him? Later, QD.

[Benefit]

no ive heard of him...just surprised you listen to him

[quickdodge®]

Why wouldn't I? He's a classic West Coaster. Been around forever. He has definite WC flavor. Later, QD.

[cactusEG]

no ive heard of him...just surprised you listen to him

too short is the shit.. later EG

[Benefit]

i thought you liked beats, not lyrics...well his shit you get both so lol

[Benefit]

QD so do you like the new west coast shit...snoop (not really new) but like The Game and that other new guy in g-unit...spider loc i think?

[quickdodge®]

i thought you liked beats, not lyrics...well his shit you get both so lol

Me? Hail no. I'm more into a funk type sound. No overpowering bass/fast rap(South) and no slow as hail rapping(North). I like funky music with an even flowing lyric set.

I can/do listen to most everyone pre-1990 from the North, though. From Dana Dane to Salt N Pepa to Kool Moe Dee. Later, QD.

[quickdodge®]

QD so do you like the new west coast shit...snoop (not really new) but like The Game and that other new guy in g-unit...spider loc i think?

No I don't. Later, QD.

[cactusEG]

i thought you liked beats, not lyrics...well his shit you get both so lol

i also said SOME ... as in some what

[Benefit]

slow rapping is not north at all man what are you talking about...its good lyrics with good beats...southern rap is just horrid...

[cactusEG]

Me? Hail no. I'm more into a funk type sound. No overpowering bass/fast rap(South) and no slow as hail rapping(North). I like funky music with an even flowing lyric set.

I can/do listen to most everyone pre-1990 from the North, though. From Dana Dane to Salt N Pepa to Kool Moe Dee. Later, QD.

u mean TX ?

[Benefit]

Me? Hail no. I'm more into a funk type sound. No overpowering bass/fast rap(South) and no slow as hail rapping(North). I like funky music with an even flowing lyric set.

I can/do listen to most everyone pre-1990 from the North, though. From Dana Dane to Salt N Pepa to Kool Moe Dee. Later, QD.

oh i was talking to cactuseg when i said that

[Benefit]

u mean TX ?

yea thats slow rappin and that shit fell off real quick , paul wall and that tippin on 44's stuff..the grillz shit trickled into ATL too

[quickdodge®]

slow rapping is not north at all man what are you talking about...its good lyrics with good beats...southern rap is just horrid...

Ahh shit. Slow rapping is North. Always has been. Don't take that as a diss and I didn't say everyone was slow rapping. It's just known for slower rapping style and slow, meaningful beats. The South has always had that fast rap with loud ass bass and not worth anything beats. 2 Live Crew, Half Pint, Magic Mike, David Banner, Luda. West Coast has always just been in between. Music mostly based off of funk and a fast/slow mix. Later, QD.

[quickdodge®]

u mean TX ?

No. I don't. I said what I meant. Later, QD.

[cactusEG]

No. I don't. I said what I meant. Later, QD.

ok.. have u ever heard of money loc?

[OneSlow5pt0]

Blondie

[quickdodge®]

Can't say I have. Later, QD.

[cactusEG]

Can't say I have. Later, QD.

J/W

[Benefit]

Ahh shit. Slow rapping is North. Always has been. Don't take that as a diss and I didn't say everyone was slow rapping. It's just known for slower rapping style and slow, meaningful beats. The South has always had that fast rap with loud ass bass and not worth anything beats. 2 Live Crew, Half Pint, Magic Mike, David Banner, Luda. West Coast has always just been in between. Music mostly based off of funk and a fast/slow mix. Later, QD.

yeah i guess , i grew up listening to it so probably never noticed. your gunna have to refer me to some good west rappers because i never really looked into them , just as far as pac and dre...mainstream guys.

[quickdodge®]

Honestly, there's not really any good WC rappers out now. Ice Cube and WC are the only two that I feel are worth listening to. There's a few mixtape kings out there that I do listen to, but that's about it. Later, QD.

[Benefit]

i dont listen to all that much recent stuff , same as you...pre 97..

[ep9716]

Well I Like Classical music. And Body Up For Some Classical music? Eh?
LOL J/K Or Am I:ninja:

[OneSlow5pt0]

fred Durnst

[ep9716]

Thats Pre 97...LOL

[Benefit]

lol...from time to time ill listen to some trance, dj tiesto...which is mostly beats

[OneSlow5pt0]

vanilla Ice


Go ninja Go ninja GO!!

[cactusEG]

Honestly, there's not really any good WC rappers out now. Ice Cube and WC are the only two that I feel are worth listening to. There's a few mixtape kings out there that I do listen to, but that's about it. Later, QD.

ice cube is the shit to.. i like the song today was a good day

[quickdodge®]

My only shit is old school all day every type music. I love 70-80 rock, soul, funk, rap. That's it. Later, QD.

[OneSlow5pt0]

My only shit is old school all day every type music. I love 70-80 rock, soul, funk, rap. That's it. Later, QD.

Run-DMC FTW

[Mr_Mischif]

Run-DMC FTW

Blah; while their music is meaningful, it's timely. Pre-01 Outkast FTW though.

[OneSlow5pt0]

Blah; while their music is meaningful, it's timely. Pre-01 Outkast FTW though.

idk,Run DMc is one of the few rapper/groups i like

[Mr_Mischif]

idk,Run DMc is one of the few rapper/groups i like

Well I'm not saying they aren't good, it's just that you can tell that their music was made in the 80s-90s. What I'm saying is go listen to Sucker MCs, and then go listen to Elevators or Ms. Jackson and tell me when each one sounds like it was made. Most people would tell you that DMC sounds like it was made in the late 80s, yes Elevators was made around 2000-2002, when it was made about 5 years before.

[quickdodge®]

Well I'm not saying they aren't good, it's just that you can tell that their music was made in the 80s-90s. What I'm saying is go listen to Sucker MCs, and then go listen to Elevators or Ms. Jackson and tell me when each one sounds like it was made. Most people would tell you that DMC sounds like it was made in the late 80s, yes Elevators was made around 2000-2002, when it was made about 5 years before.

Ummmm. Lolol. Later, QD.

[JackMaster]

This thread is stooopid.


BenefitX
1. Gangstarr is J Premier and G.U.R.U. It is not a "him"

2. The only Pac you like is All Eyez on me, which was mediocre at best and should have been condensed into just one album. The Makiavelli album was garbage and was a posthumous release of outtakes and bSides. You need to listen to Me Against the World and 2Pacalypse to get a better appreciation of Pac.

3. You caliing Rakim a legend? Please be honest, do you even own Paid in Full? Don't Sweat the Technique? Follow the Leader? I dunno if he's the G.O.A.T....? I always thought Kane was doper, but Paid in Full and Don't Sweat the Technique could arguably be 2 of the greatest ALBUMS of all time. Rakim hasn't done shit right in over 15 years. He had a nice little 5 year period, but he can't be called the greatest of all time based on a 5 year run of dopeness. He's like a Gayle Sayers imo.

4. Big L, I was a huge fan of his unsigned mixtape stuff, but his only album was iffy. Platinum Plus was hott tho.

5. LOL, "wow someone else listens to dead prez...i thought i was the only one..." youre so cool

Its obvious youre young and don't know shit. I also find it honorable that you are at least making an attempt to learn more... Thats why I'm not gonna flame your ass and basically make fun of everything you posted in here. Its just sorta obvious you are frontin a little bit on your Hip Hop knowledge and I find that a little annoying

JACKMASTER

[JackMaster]

Well I'm not saying they aren't good, it's just that you can tell that their music was made in the 80s-90s. What I'm saying is go listen to Sucker MCs, and then go listen to Elevators or Ms. Jackson and tell me when each one sounds like it was made. Most people would tell you that DMC sounds like it was made in the late 80s, yes Elevators was made around 2000-2002, when it was made about 5 years before.



what the fuck are you talkin about? Are you trying to say ATLiens sounds ahead of its time? Run DMC was waaaay ahead of their time too. I just don't see where youre trying to go with that?

[BanginJimmy]

90% of mainstream rap is garbage. A few good songs mixed in, but mostly not worth wating you life listening to it.

Underground rap is always the best you are going to find. I only really know the chichago underground cause thats where I grew up. I remember listening to Twista when he was still Tung Twista, Crucial Conflict before "Hay", DA Smart, B-Low 0, Snipaz, Southside Mobbin.

Other older, and not as well known NORTHERN rappers that stayed pretty much in the underground. Dayton Family from Detroit is the one that comes to min at 3am, but there are others.

[JackMaster]

Other older, and not as well known NORTHERN rappers that stayed pretty much in the underground. Dayton Family from Detroit is the one that comes to min at 3am, but there are others.


Dayton Family is from FLINT

[quickdodge®]

1. Gangstarr is J Premier and G.U.R.U. It is not a "him"

I didn't even see that. But yes, Gangstarr is a group. The very first time I saw/heard them, I though GS was the name of the rapper, lolol.


2. The only Pac you like is All Eyez on me, which was mediocre at best and should have been condensed into just one album. The Makiavelli album was garbage and was a posthumous release of outtakes and bSides. You need to listen to Me Against the World and 2Pacalypse to get a better appreciation of Pac.

I've heard the very same thing many times.


3. You caliing Rakim a legend? Please be honest, do you even own Paid in Full? Don't Sweat the Technique? Follow the Leader? I dunno if he's the G.O.A.T....? I always thought Kane was doper, but Paid in Full and Don't Sweat the Technique could arguably be 2 of the greatest ALBUMS of all time. Rakim hasn't done shit right in over 15 years. He had a nice little 5 year period, but he can't be called the greatest of all time based on a 5 year run of dopeness. He's like a Gayle Sayers imo.

So true. I was a huge fan of Eric B and Co. Rakim was a badass emcee, but, like JM said, a few years at the top does a G.O.A.T. not make. To me, he's on the line of Kool G Rap and Kane both. Later, QD.

[quickdodge®]

Dayton Family is from FLINT

And quite well known. They aren't underground at all, Jimmy.

The Dayton Family came out just after MC Breed("Ain't No Future In Yo Frontin'"). Both are from Flint. Later, QD.

[Benefit]

i guess...whats your thoughts on immortal technique, JackMaster

[Benefit]

This thread is stooopid.


BenefitX
1. Gangstarr is J Premier and G.U.R.U. It is not a "him"

2. The only Pac you like is All Eyez on me, which was mediocre at best and should have been condensed into just one album. The Makiavelli album was garbage and was a posthumous release of outtakes and bSides. You need to listen to Me Against the World and 2Pacalypse to get a better appreciation of Pac.

3. You caliing Rakim a legend? Please be honest, do you even own Paid in Full? Don't Sweat the Technique? Follow the Leader? I dunno if he's the G.O.A.T....? I always thought Kane was doper, but Paid in Full and Don't Sweat the Technique could arguably be 2 of the greatest ALBUMS of all time. Rakim hasn't done shit right in over 15 years. He had a nice little 5 year period, but he can't be called the greatest of all time based on a 5 year run of dopeness. He's like a Gayle Sayers imo.

4. Big L, I was a huge fan of his unsigned mixtape stuff, but his only album was iffy. Platinum Plus was hott tho.

5. LOL, "wow someone else listens to dead prez...i thought i was the only one..." youre so cool

Its obvious youre young and don't know shit. I also find it honorable that you are at least making an attempt to learn more... Thats why I'm not gonna flame your ass and basically make fun of everything you posted in here. Its just sorta obvious you are frontin a little bit on your Hip Hop knowledge and I find that a little annoying

JACKMASTER

i mean i know a little bit...i think rakim is definetly a legend and a landmark in hip hop, not g.o.a.t but who cares if he hasnt done shit for 15 years...its about what he did do in that 5 year period like your saying

and pac's lyrics were never that appealing...im getting those songs you mentioned though

[Benefit]

in me against the world , such a slow beat and pac rapping fast, rhythm and tempo anyone?

i was actually waiting for jackmaster and qd to come in this thread lol and knew i was gunna get flamed but i just wanna see what others think..

that first list was a list of people on this cd i was burning...not G.o.a.t but good rappers in general.

[quickdodge®]

I never flamed. Later, QD.

[Sack Attack]

I like white rappers and amateur rappers myself....I like some mainstream rap also, but I like to keep it simple

[quickdodge®]

White rappers is an oxymoron. The only white rapper I will listen to is MC Serch and Pete Nice. And they aren't pure white. Later, QD.

[Sack Attack]

White rappers is an oxymoron. The only white rapper I will listen to is MC Serch and Pete Nice. And they aren't pure white. Later, QD.

I dunno....I dont like all that white rappers do but
eminem has his good songs
paul wall has his good ones
lil white has some good ones
hell icp even has good ones (although most dont consider them "rap")

[quickdodge®]

eminem has his good songs

I'm not a sheep and I just never thought he was that great.


paul wall has his good ones
lil white has some good ones

Someone hurry up and kill these two.


hell icp even has good ones (although most dont consider them "rap")

I'm one that doesn't consider them rap at all. More like shock rock. Later, QD.

[Benefit]

You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to quickdodge® again.

[Julio]

What did Rakim do ? How is he a legend? I mean, Eric B and him could never out shine RUN DMC... Or Kurtis Blow... Who were hot around the mid to late 80's..

NOTHING.... he was/is wack... I mean.. when LL and Fresh prince steal your shine.. how good can you really be?

hahaha.
He was diffrent back in the Mid to late 80's because of his slow and raw delievery of his rhymes.... It was diffrent back then..
But You have to realize when he went solo around 90-91 or whatever year it was...
He was going against some Future HIP HOP GOATS.

[Julio]

And underground is turning into grabage to... I was a HUGE fan of underground hip hop...

But now all those MOFO's are rapping about the same shit.... ..

[cactusEG]

I dunno....I dont like all that white rappers do but
eminem has his good songs
paul wall has his good ones
lil white has some good ones
hell icp even has good ones (although most dont consider them "rap")


every one u just said sux.. except paul wall

[quickdodge®]

every one u just said sux.. except paul wall

Definitely including PW. Later, QD.

[GGPIS3]

Jackmaster gets my panties wet.

[Benefit]

And underground is turning into grabage to... I was a HUGE fan of underground hip hop...

But now all those MOFO's are rapping about the same shit.... ..

except for tech...which you still havent explained why he is a lamer..

[Sack Attack]

That goes to show none of us think alike...hahah

I dont have posters on my wall of ANY of them, I aint got their name tatted on my arm, I dont really know much about any of them, but I do have a few select songs by each and every one of them I like. I aint going to their concerts though..haha

[cactusEG]

Definitely including PW. Later, QD.

thats ur opinon... later eg

[quickdodge®]

thats ur opinon... later eg

Exactly. And it's your opinion that he's worth a shit(lolol....sorry I had to laugh after saying Paul Wall was worth a shit). Later, QD.

[Sack Attack]

Here we go...haha

[cactusEG]

Exactly. And it's your opinion that he's worth a shit(lolol....sorry I had to laugh after saying Paul Wall was worth a shit). Later, QD.


:doh: :headslap: .. later EG

[Benefit]

paul wall is a joke , later, BE??

[cactusEG]

paul wall is a joke , later, BE??

no..later EG

[TIGERJC]

paul wall is a joke , later, BE??
:yes:

[quickdodge®]

no..later EG

I got proof:

What do you get when a white guy tries rap?

Paul Wall.

Later, QD.

[TIGERJC]

I got proof:

What do you get when a white guy tries rap?

Paul Wall.

Later, QD.
:lmao:

[JackMaster]

i know i act like i know everything there is to know about music, but the truth is, i am just an asshole and i know nothing. i believe everyone is less than me and i am better than all. however i do like it when the gay guys start dancing as im spinning.. it gets me all hot and bothered.

[Benefit]

lol wtf?

[cactusEG]

I got proof:

What do you get when a white guy tries rap?

Paul Wall.

Later, QD.

no u get emienm.. later EG

[ep9716]

Is Everyone Coping QD By Doing That Later QD???
Later, EP
^Ima Stop That Takes Too Long.

[Benefit]

lol