SR's are gay

[Black95s14]

How bout some originality

Everyone and their brother wants an SR

all you sr guys think automatically ill swap it in and make stock power or a little more with a FMIC and a blow off valve and that your car is unstoppable

I made this comment in the KA thread

assume 3 grand for a good complete SR swap

and thats stock SR just at or a little over 200 hp

imagine 3 grand in a KA

that would be pushin close to 500 hp

why is this motor so hated

its called torque, and its a good thing :goodjob:


http://a518.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/01523/71/52/1523292517_l.jpg

Heres a towel:leghump:

[TheSnail]

Towel? No thanks, you might need that towel to help you pick up your ringlands.

[Capt._Ron]

KA+$3000= a $3000 turd

[OneSlow5pt0]

put a 20B in that bitch

[HalfBaked]

Show me a dyno of a KA with a t25 on it that makes as much power as my STOCK TURBO STOCK INTERNALS t25 sr20det...please do that.

[sebastianHoff]

i so dont give a fuck anymore.

[HalfBaked]

i so dont give a fuck anymore.
That is because you rev to like 6500rpm. Rev like a real man!

[Benefit]

man this guy just got a 240 , he doesn't know shit yet....

KA cant compete with an SR , what the HELL DON'T YOU UNDERSTAND??

you turbo a KA to get to the same level as a STOCK SR...is that so hard to understand????

[2jz240sx]

or you can buy a real engine like myself...
and throw a 2jz single turbo in that mo-fo :)

[Benefit]

yea or that...man hes a noob...hell understand later

[OneSlow5pt0]

or you can buy a real engine like myself...
and throw a 2jz single turbo in that mo-fo :)

fuck that,just go all out and put a 26B in it and make 780hp all motor:D

[Kyle]

So much hostility over motors when it comes to you 240 guys. RB, SR, KA, 2JZ.

I was with decker and a guy with an Rb20 S14 pulls up and they talk and he doesnt think shit of deckers car, he's like "everyone is doing that swap." WTF?

[EmotorsportsE]

RB20 ftw.

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[tron]

RB20 ftw.

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+1 rb20's cost about the same as an sr and there better:D

[sebastianHoff]

RB20 FTL.

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That is because you rev to like 6500rpm. Rev like a real man!

im putting a redtop in an e30 and the rb25 is 6800. so no crap from you today.

course none of this really matters since gas is past $3.50 a gallon up here, which means i spend most of my time driving my g/f 94 sohc accord. shoot me in the head.

[Black95s14]

just got my car????

try november of 05

but thanks for talkin out your ass

and i have to turbo the KA to get the same amount as an SR, are you shitting me??

I could build a NA KA that make the same amount as the SR

guess what your SR's are barely 200 hp at the wheels

[wantboost]

So much hostility over motors when it comes to you 240 guys. RB, SR, KA, 2JZ.

I was with decker and a guy with an Rb20 S14 pulls up and they talk and he doesnt think shit of deckers car, he's like "everyone is doing that swap." WTF?
shit, i got that from some guy today lol.

[Benefit]

whatever man just turbo your ka...and see what happens

[AFSil80]

CA18ET > KA24DE-T

And no that's not a typo.

My S12 > any KA. It's gangsta2daSkull.

[2jz240sx]

yeah at least go with ca18det...they are really good when done right.
ka's are only good stock motors in my opinion...
and if you are really poor then maybe put a turbo on it...

but what do i know, i just drive a 500hp+240 :)

[SpecV_Scott]

just got my car????

I could build a NA KA that make the same amount as the SR



BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH! Awesome. A KA with exhaust puts down about 130whp. So where is that 70whp going to come from? You will spend WAY more to get a KA to 200whp NA than you would spend just swapping in an SR.

I'm not saying the SR is the best engine. I'm just saying it's the easiest. They're cheap, they're light, they're easy to install, and there is a fucking ginormous aftermarket for them.

[BuBBa DRiFT]

I'm not saying the SR is the best engine. I'm just saying it's the easiest. They're cheap, they're light, they're easy to install, and there is a fucking ginormous aftermarket for them.

I agree, Id rather spend 3 grand on a reliable SR. All i need is enough to get me sideways, honestly. I know that sounds gay, but why fix what isnt broken?

BTW, a stock KA with a stock SR T25 will push as much as a S15 SR20. Its been dyno proven. Lots more torque too. All i know is, you better get some updated rods and bearings, believe me, when they say KA-T is timebomb, they mean it. My motor only had 90k on it too...

[HalfBaked]

and i have to turbo the KA to get the same amount as an SR, are you shitting me??

I could build a NA KA that make the same amount as the SR

Yea you can but it would cost you a shit load...

The reason why people say they make more power on a KA-T isn't because it is a better motor but because they put bigger turbos on it, no one puts a t25 on there KA to turbo it. Put a t25 on a KA and I guarentee my SR will last longer then it.

[EmotorsportsE]

I'm all for KA-T's, built though. I have gone through too many pistons on stock KA-T's to enjoy it at all. It sucks having to pull the head and oil pan off every other month to replace pistons. If I had $3000, and wanted the best bang for the buck, it wouldn't be a KA-T, It'd be a Redtop with a FMIC, Greddy Plenum, T28 BB, exhaust, and a ECU tune. $3000 would get me a nice turbo setup with a safc2, but still the ringlands suck. Build the motor, then I get an ebay turbo setup. Stock KA's will only last with more money dumped into the engine management, so do that, then no build or, nice turbo setup. Money for money, the SR, it can be done quick, and it's reliable.

[Black95s14]

Earlier someone people were talkin about the RB20

I like that motor don't get me wrong, but i cant see the point of swapping in a heavier motor and adding two cylinders and losing .4 ltrs from the KA

And I will admit i'll appreciate an SR if it is built nice, but it pisses me off how so many people just want to toss the KA aside and automatically put an SR in. The SR 240's are like mustangs, they are fuckin everywhere

I had a kid who i hardly know come up to me about a year ago (typical fast and furious fan boy, and his parents bought him a BMW and he totaled it so they bought him another, but thats a different story) and he asked first off if I drift. BTW he was driving through the parking lot at a restaurant so he saw my car. I said no, then he proceeded to ask me if I had an SR, I said know, and he says well you need to put one it and get that thing sideways.

Thats the typical SR image and I don't see why so many people want that or like that. The 240 people are supposed to be the ones who don't care about big wings or clear tail lights, they just like originality

And I think the SR is dare I say it, becoming ricey
I know honda people that want to put SR's in their cars somehow.

When it crosses into cross breeding, thats where I draw the line

[Sol-Badguy]

Foot in mouth.

[Benefit]

yep the typical SR image is "gettin' sideway homedogg"...

KA RULEZ!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Black95s14]

ignorant fan boy, just keep dening it

tell me this


how many 240's have you seen drifting (and I mean good with sponsors, not cul-de-sac drifters) that have KA's???

I rest my case

[Ltdnismorace]

dude that's like saying putting a b16 in a honda is ricey.... they had them in stock in some instances just like the SR in a 240 chassis. If you wanna build up your KA, by all means go for it, but don't knock people who have SR20s in their cars. By your logic people who use small block 350s are ricers because they are everywhere. No, they are everywhere because they work, just like SRs. You are entitled to your opinion, I'm an advocate of that, but don't come across like an arrogant asshole and group a large group of us b/c one fuckin high school shitbag gave you a bad taste.

[AFSil80]

yeah at least go with ca18det...they are really good when done right.
ka's are only good stock motors in my opinion...
and if you are really poor then maybe put a turbo on it...

but what do i know, i just drive a 500hp+240 :)

Yeah, S13 is getting the CA18DET. If I can keep from spending $$ elsewhere, it should put out well over 400 to the wheels by the end of the year. If I feel baller enough, the S12 will get a DET as well (Hell, I've got 1 half cut and 1 motorset, they're just on different continents, haha). Wishful thinking sucks, but since I just went up another rank, the budget got a pretty big boost. Anyways, I'm not building the car to slide. S15 diffs. have better use. We'll see where it sits in September/October, haha.

[EmotorsportsE]

I love my KA-T's, but didn't see a single one at Formula Drift this year.

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[Capt._Ron]

SR's just flat out work. Thats all there is to it. I can take my damn pos 240 to black hills , beat the everloving shit out of it, and drive home with 0 problems. I cant tell you how man times that thing has been bouncing of the rev limiter and still not one problem. The KA just is not as reliable or as good. Call sr's ricey all you want but at the end of the day your still on the side of the road with your amazing, blown up ka-t and im driving home in my ricey sr car.

[BruceAlmighty]

Show me a dyno of a KA with a t25 on it that makes as much power as my STOCK TURBO STOCK INTERNALS t25 sr20det...please do that.

your so full of shit. your car is not stock. try again... :rolleyes:

[240sxautox]

I like my rb20. I bought it because it's a nice strong block, good on gas, able to put down the power I want, and the sound gives me a boner.

So if I'm ricey for my choosing so be it. And about the SR- that motor is a great motor, why do people hate each others decisions? SR's are easy/fairly cheap to modify, VERY easy to find performance parts for, they're pretty, high revving, high compression ratio, etc. etc. They're a great motor- very economical and still a good performance motor. So what is the downside?

and for the KA- I mean yeah it's a nice strong motor...for daily driving and what not- and yes it's completely possible to build it for super high numbers just like any other motor. If that's what you want to do then by all means have fun, KA-T's can be a lot of fun, or just completely built KA's. Either way just do what you do and enjoy your decisions.

[2jz240sx]

everyone and their moms have an sr!
ah shit ass shit!

[BTLFED]

Earlier someone people were talkin about the RB20

I like that motor don't get me wrong, but i cant see the point of swapping in a heavier motor and adding two cylinders and losing .4 ltrs from the KA

And I will admit i'll appreciate an SR if it is built nice, but it pisses me off how so many people just want to toss the KA aside and automatically put an SR in. The SR 240's are like mustangs, they are fuckin everywhere

I had a kid who i hardly know come up to me about a year ago (typical fast and furious fan boy, and his parents bought him a BMW and he totaled it so they bought him another, but thats a different story) and he asked first off if I drift. BTW he was driving through the parking lot at a restaurant so he saw my car. I said no, then he proceeded to ask me if I had an SR, I said know, and he says well you need to put one it and get that thing sideways.

Thats the typical SR image and I don't see why so many people want that or like that. The 240 people are supposed to be the ones who don't care about big wings or clear tail lights, they just like originality

And I think the SR is dare I say it, becoming ricey
I know honda people that want to put SR's in their cars somehow.

When it crosses into cross breeding, thats where I draw the line

You are the most ignorant fuck I have ever seen. An RB20 is a fucking boat anchor. A KA is a fucking truck engine. There is a reason everyone uses an SR20. IT WORKS. Fuck being different and using a less reliable setup just because you want to be different.

And fuck your Honda statements, seeing as you drive Nissan's version of a Civic. Everyone has one now a days. Do you drift too, asshat? DIAF.

[BTLFED]

your so full of shit. your car is not stock. try again... :rolleyes:

No, he's not. I know him personally and I know what is done to his SR. Here's an idea: drive your 240 off a cliff.

[Benefit]

i like the sr even more now since i only have 1 chain. not a idler pulley then a timing chain

KA is KA-BOOM...

cant really say much cause my sr is not running but thats because i spun a bearing in cylinder 3, which alot of people do for some reason...i guess a oiling problem, but not sure...

[auxiliary]

halfbaked's car was on stock engine specs, and stock turbo. He was tuning the EMS when he made that much power. I don't know if that was before or after his injectors..

KA's are ehh..oh well. I agree that the 240 image is the boy drifter image....but that doesn't mean that having an SR makes you a drifter. When I had my 240 I was going to make it a highway straight line car. I could care less about going around in a parking lot or driving country back roads.

There are a lot of fast 240's out there that aren't all about drifting, sr. ka, rb, whatever....

putting a 2j in your 240 doesn't make you cool. Especially if it's an s13. You are investing money into a turd. It's like the guy that put a twin turbo ls1 into a volvo wagon...can it be done, yes....is it fast, yes....is it still a peice of shit body? Yes.

anyways, 240's aren't cool any more. Regardless of what motor they have. All the owners are dumb asses

[HalfBaked]

your so full of shit. your car is not stock. try again... :rolleyes:
My car isn't stock you are right, but my motor was on stock internals and stock turbo which is what I said when I made all that power.

[240sxautox]

I'm glad that someone in this thread said 240's aren't cool anymore. Maybe that will stop the fanboy following- and people who enjoy the car for what it is can do just that- without being labeled a drifter or whatever else. The 240 is a very simple, cheap, lightweight, FR car that has lots of potential- By no means is it a turd. and for the volvo wagon with the 'vette motor- Why not? If you don't like it then well that sucks, this guy did it because he enjoys that car obviously- maybe he wanted corvette power and still have room for lots of luggage, and wanted to do it himself? Who knows.

There is no reason to hate everyone elses setups just because you're the "anti-fanboy" who gives a shit what other people have or like- just let them do their thing. If you drift, cool you drift. If you road race, cool you road race. If you street race, then well you're a dumbass. If you drag race, then cool you drag race. There are many aspects to motorsport and there's no reason to knock any of them. People have different tastes- It's nothing to start a war over.

[SpecV_Scott]

^True.

FYI, I've driven my SR to Orlando twice, and once to Deal's Gap (where I ran the Tail of the Dragon 4 times). Running 13psi the whole time. Doesn't burn oil. Doesn't run weird. Doesn't smoke. Gets decent gas mileage (around 22city, 26hwy). I don't drift, but I drag race (14.5 currently, working on my launch) and autoX (will get to run it June 9th). I have power steering (working HICAS), a factory LSD, ABS, and will have A/C in a couple weeks. I've invested around $5500 total, including the cost of the car.

^^^ That's not all dependant on having an SR....but it's made everything so easy and cheap. I wish everything in life was that way.

[Capt._Ron]

well i actually do drift my 240 , autox it, drag race it, and drive it daily, and I have basically zero problems. I guess you could say that I am a fanboy only because to motor has held up so well that I have to give credit where credit is due.

[Capt._Ron]

on second thought retract everything i just said. I thought I drove an s14 for a second, then I realize that my car is actually an s13 and that I am a total ricer to the bone ha ha ha

[Sleepy122CID]

This is how I feel about these rediculous, POINTLESS threads that we all see these days:

First of all, S13s are not POS cars just because they are old. S13s have done well in many different forms of racing - and still do.

Second, I hate when people say they want to do a certain engine just to be different. That is the most retarded reason I could possibly think of to make an engine choice. Go with whatever is the best for the car you want to build; for the type of racing you like to do; for the type of driving you enjoy most. These people who solely use this logic to choose a platform should probably not be driving an S-chassis (or really any performance vehicle). They are only doing it to impress other people instead of enjoying a car.

Now, back when i started getting into all this 240 stuff, nobody was doing KA stuff. There was no knowledge of KA-Ts (except maybe some random one-offs). There was no ka-t.org. I've had my SR for a few years, but had been planning it for a couple years before that.

If I had it to do all over I probably would still go with a SR, just because it is, from the research I've done and my own opinion, the best engine for the type of car I enjoy driving. It is by no means stock (or anywhere near it), and the assumption that at most SR owners put a FMIC, BOV, and exhaust is ignorant. I guess I should assume that at most KA owners put a cold-air intake and cat-back exhaust on their cars.

There are many engines that I personally would not choose for a 240: RB25/26, 2JZ, CA18, etc., but that does not mean that I think they are bad engines. Hell, that doesn't even mean I think they are bad engines for a 240. And even if I did, there is no way I would try and tell other people that they are wrong about their engine choice... especially on an internet forum haha.

Moral of my rant is: grow up, build the car you want to build, and quit worrying about what other people are building, because you are wrong and worse for 240s than all the people with stock SR-swaps.

BTW, is that even a picture of your engine? I imagine you don't even own a KA-T, but that's just me.

[Benefit]

yeah its true...every ka-t person's main reason of doing a ka-t is "everyone else has a sr..." well if you want to be different then get a geo metro and drop a ls1 in it like i always say...

[95droppedhatch]

i think eveybody should get over the sr and start putting the ls1 in there

[supra brit]

im so sick of seeing these threads. :rolleyes:

[auxiliary]

putting an ls1 into a car almost cost as much as putting an rb26 into a car

[SpecV_Scott]

putting an ls1 into a car almost cost as much as putting an rb26 into a car

Probably more.

[AFSil80]

Moral of my rant is: grow up, build the car you want to build, and quit worrying about what other people are building, because you are wrong and worse for 240s than all the people with stock SR-swaps.

+1 and QFT.

[TheSnail]

To answer the truth, you must ask yourself the question. Would you fly in a KA-t powered airplane?

[BTLFED]

To answer the truth, you must ask yourself the question. Would you fly in a KA-t powered airplane?

:no:

[EmotorsportsE]

Well, even when I blew the ring lands in my KA-T, it had still more than enough power to get down the road faster than a stock SR still, just a little oil coming from the breather, other than that it was still fast and would drive for a few weeks until I pulled the head and pan again.

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[chituntang]

If you spend enough money on your car, it will always be better than other cars. What you do is your choice, what other people do are their choice. I have seen KA-T making 700+ hp, and I have also see SR pushing just as much, if not more. Always remember in a SR swap, you are putting a stock motor in, unless you are spending more money on exhaust, FMIC, etc. Of course it does not seems like it is a great way to spend 3000+ to swap it, wait until you put bigger turbo and more boost on it. Run your KA with a T28 with 15psi, and tell me how long it is going to last. That's why company like Greddy offer turbo kit for KA with 6psi boost. You cannot run the amount of boost on a KA as a SR. My point is that after you go all out, there is not difference between KA and SR in terms of performance. If you want to stand out from the crowd, please sell your S-chassis car and get like a Ferrari or something that you do not see daily. When you close your hood, who cares if you have a KA-T or SR??

[supra brit]

So glad I don't have a 240 anymore for this reason.

I don't see Honda owners arguing about what motor is better, and giving eachother sh*t for whatever they choose.

Yes, I am tired of seeing raggety old 240s with stock SRs that the owner thinks is the sh*t, but at the same time, that's their choice. It's their car.

I'll give a clean car that makes good power props, no matter what it is. I was planning on KA-T with my s13, and sort of back and forth between that and CA at times, but that's my own choice.

So now, I don't have to hear "you gotta an SR in that!?"...of course, now I have to hear "wow, Fast and Furious yo!" or "2jz, no shit!?"... :rolleyes:

Let's just all be friends!!

[Benefit]

people don't seem to understand...

you have to build a KA to get to par with the sr...not the other way around lmao

[Benefit]

So glad I don't have a 240 anymore for this reason.

I don't see Honda owners arguing about what motor is better, and giving eachother sh*t for whatever they choose.

Yes, I am tired of seeing raggety old 240s with stock SRs that the owner thinks is the sh*t, but at the same time, that's their choice. It's their car.

I'll give a clean car that makes good power props, no matter what it is. I was planning on KA-T with my s13, and sort of back and forth between that and CA at times, but that's my own choice.

So now, I don't have to hear "you gotta an SR in that!?"...of course, now I have to hear "wow, Fast and Furious yo!" or "2jz, no shit!?"... :rolleyes

Let's just all be friends!!

why are you even in this thread you dont have a 240, you never had a ka-t , never had a sr or ca...your opinion doesnt matter

[supra brit]

Of my God, I didn't know that this was limited posting only. Holy sh*t! I forgot that I've had two 240s, the first even before all the hype began.

I'm sorry, I will never post in a Nissan forum again.

So better not see you in a Toyota thread. :rolleyes:

[HalfBaked]

why are you even in this thread you dont have a 240, you never had a ka-t , never had a sr or ca...your opinion doesnt matter
hahahahahha reps.

[Benefit]

lol i know right, shes like complaing about people asking her if she has a SR, how does that make you so mad to the point that you sold your 240?

[supra brit]

I didn't even bash anyones motor or setup. All I said is why is everyone so sensitive about their cars, specifically with 240s? Who cares what people choose to do. If they want to swap in a 3-cylinder Metro motor, fine. If they want SR, fine.

Damn internet trolls...

[HalfBaked]

Now everyone will be asking her questions like

"Is your supra turbo?!"

"Does that have a 2jzgte?!?!"

"Why does it have no front bumper?"

[supra brit]

lol i know right, shes like complaing about people asking her if she has a SR, how does that make you so mad to the point that you sold your 240?

I didn't sell it for that reason. I didn't want to sell it, but I needed the money.

Alright I'm done with this, later.

[Benefit]

^True.

FYI, I've driven my SR to Orlando twice, and once to Deal's Gap (where I ran the Tail of the Dragon 4 times). Running 13psi the whole time. Doesn't burn oil. Doesn't run weird. Doesn't smoke. Gets decent gas mileage (around 22city, 26hwy). I don't drift, but I drag race (14.5 currently, working on my launch) and autoX (will get to run it June 9th). I have power steering (working HICAS), a factory LSD, ABS, and will have A/C in a couple weeks. I've invested around $5500 total, including the cost of the car.

^^^ That's not all dependant on having an SR....but it's made everything so easy and cheap. I wish everything in life was that way.

end thread, best said right there.

[Benefit]

So glad I don't have a 240 anymore for this reason.


..

[Benefit]

Now everyone will be asking her questions like

"Is your supra turbo?!"

"Does that have a 2jzgte?!?!"

"Why does it have no front bumper?"

lmao damn...

[HalfBaked]

I mean, I kinda wonder why it has no front bumper...

[Benefit]

better air flow to the turbo'z

[BTLFED]

Of my God, I didn't know that this was limited posting only. Holy sh*t! I forgot that I've had two 240s, the first even before all the hype began.

And now you own a pile of shit wrecked ass Supra, so what is your point? GTFO----------------------->

[supra brit]

I mean, I kinda wonder why it has no front bumper...

Wow I sort of remember your car not having a bumper...that's funny.

:screwy:

[BruceAlmighty]

people don't seem to understand...

you have to build a KA to get to par with the sr...not the other way around lmao

apparently, your head has been too far up your ass to pick up the issue of Sport Compact Car and read the article about KA-T's and what they are capable of. in case your a lazy fuck, which i assume you are, its the February 2006 issue. it explains that in stock form with an adjustable fuel pressure regulator and nothing else but a turbo setup at 7lbs of boost, a KA will make 225whp. please show me a stock SR running 7lbs of boost that makes anywhere close to that, because i already know you cant. at best, you might find one that is at, or near 200chp, but thats it. so dont go running your dick-sucker before checking your facts.

and in case you want some more proof, just go check out KA-T.org for a few minutes and when you finally realize what a complete fucktard you are, you can go back to your ass-pounding session with all the other SR lovers... :gay:


I mean, I kinda wonder why it has no front bumper...

she could take off the doors and push it down the street and it would still be a better car than that terd bucket that your gay-ass drives. :goodjob:

[BTLFED]

apparently, your head has been too far up your ass to pick up the issue of Sport Compact Car and read the article about KA-T's and what they are capable of. in case your a lazy fuck, which i assume you are, its the February 2006 issue. it explains that in stock form with an adjustable fuel pressure regulator and nothing else but a turbo setup at 7lbs of boost, a KA will make 225whp. please show me a stock SR running 7lbs of boost that makes anywhere close to that, because i already know you cant. at best, you might find one that is at, or near 200chp, but thats it. so dont go running your dick-sucker before checking your facts.

and in case you want some more proof, just go check out KA-T.org for a few minutes and when you finally realize what a complete fucktard you are, you can go back to your ass-pounding session with all the other SR lovers... :gay:



she could take off the doors and push it down the street and it would still be a better car than that terd bucket that your gay-ass drives. :goodjob:

See the part in bold? That proves that no one cares what you think, magazine racer. :slap:

His B13 Sentra will drag your bandwagon S13 pile of garbage down the road, douchebag. :slap:

[BruceAlmighty]

See the part in bold? That proves that no one cares what you think, magazine racer. :slap:

His B13 Sentra will drag your bandwagon S13 pile of garbage down the road, douchebag. :slap:

:gay: <-- See the smiley? It still means your gay and havent disproved anything i said.

and secondly, and most importantly: BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! that car couldnt pull a wet dog down the road, but nice try cocksucker.

funny how you seem to follow HalfBaked around the forums. you guys must be pretty close... :idb:

[BTLFED]

:gay: <-- See the smiley? It still means your gay and havent disproved anything i said.

and secondly, and most importantly: BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! that car couldnt pull a wet dog down the road, but nice try cocksucker.

funny how you seem to follow HalfBaked around the forums. you guys must be pretty close... :idb:

Really you dicksucking faggot fuck? I have disproved everything you said, fuckstick. How much power does that heap of shit truck engine toting 240 of yours make? Halfbaked's shit box made 300whp BEFORE he built the engine, on a stock turbo. Fuck you, fuck your beliefs, and drift your Retard40 into a glacier.

[BruceAlmighty]

Really you dicksucking faggot fuck? I have disproved everything you said, fuckstick. How much power does that heap of shit truck engine toting 240 of yours make? Halfbaked's shit box made 300whp BEFORE he built the engine, on a stock turbo. Fuck you, fuck your beliefs, and drift your Retard40 into a glacier.

i sense somone getting a little hostile. did a hit a nerve, or am i just pointing out the obvious? either way, your still the biggest dumbass i know. all you can do is get your thong in a wad and start cursing at me? your a big man now arent you?
shut the fuck up and grow a set of balls.

im tired of seeing you and your two assbuddies trolling around the forums and being dickfaces to everyone. be a man and if you want to talk some shit, get out from behind the computer, like the nerd fag that you are, and come say it to my face. you fucking pussy will talk a bunch of shit on here, but its completely different in public. no surprise there... :rolleyes: what a fucking useless excuse for a human...

[supra brit]

Oh, and I think its funny how all yall have to talk shit to a girl... :tongue1:

[BTLFED]

i sense somone getting a little hostile. did a hit a nerve, or am i just pointing out the obvious? either way, your still the biggest dumbass i know. all you can do is get your thong in a wad and start cursing at me? your a big man now arent you?
shut the fuck up and grow a set of balls.

im tired of seeing you and your two assbuddies trolling around the forums and being dickfaces to everyone. be a man and if you want to talk some shit, get out from behind the computer, like the nerd fag that you are, and come say it to my face. you fucking pussy will talk a bunch of shit on here, but its completely different in public. no surprise there... :rolleyes: what a fucking useless excuse for a human...

No answer to any of my questions. I figured. You are nothing but an internet ricer that tries to validate his weak ass stance by thinking the internet is the gospel. Pathetic. And you think I won't say shit to people's faces? BAHAHAHAHAHHA!! I have news for you, fuckstick: I am NO DIFFERENT in person than I am on here. Ask ANYONE who has tried to run up on me. You aren't shit and you don't know shit.

[BruceAlmighty]

No answer to any of my questions. I figured. You are nothing but an internet ricer that tries to validate his weak ass stance by thinking the internet is the gospel. Pathetic. And you think I won't say shit to people's faces? BAHAHAHAHAHHA!! I have news for you, fuckstick: I am NO DIFFERENT in person than I am on here. Ask ANYONE who has tried to run up on me. You aren't shit and you don't know shit.

i dont need to validate anything. you have proved that you dont know shit, about shit. youre a fucking parts counter person for fucks sake. does that make what you say "gospel"? fuck no it doesnt. so what point are you trying to make here, you dumbfuck? :screwy:

i dont know shit? thats funny, coming from someone who works at an Infiniti parts counter. i dont even need to say anything more.

any time your ready, we can talk my fist to your face. pick up your skirt, dry off your pussy, and come on cocksucker.

[BTLFED]

i dont need to validate anything. you have proved that you dont know shit, about shit. youre a fucking parts counter person for fucks sake. does that make what you say "gospel"? fuck no it doesnt. so what point are you trying to make here, you dumbfuck? :screwy:

i dont know shit? thats funny, coming from someone who works at an Infiniti parts counter. i dont even need to say anything more.

any time your ready, we can talk my fist to your face. pick up your skirt, dry off your pussy, and come on cocksucker.

BAHAHAHAHAHA!! You think you are such a bad ass. You know nothing about me. :rolleyes:

Again, you don't know shit, and you aren't shit.

FYI you fucking moron: I never said that what I said was the gospel, or even that I am right all the time, but at least I take my knowledge from YEARS of import performance experience and what I have SEEN AND DONE in real life, not the fucking internet. :rolleyes:

[BruceAlmighty]

BAHAHAHAHAHA!! You think you are such a bad ass. You know nothing about me. :rolleyes:

Again, you don't know shit, and you aren't shit.

FYI you fucking moron: I never said that what I said was the gospel, or even that I am right all the time, but at least I take my knowledge from YEARS of import performance experience and what I have SEEN AND DONE in real life, not the fucking internet. :rolleyes:

and you think you are a badass? you dont know shit about me either dumbfuck. you posts are pointless and irrelevant and all you can do is say the same shit over and over.

i have had just as many "years" of experience as you have dumbass and i trust what i have seen, done, or that has been successful and i know about it. i dont just go grab some stupid thread and say, "This is the only truth! Believe it, or I will become an internet troll and force you to believe!" its so stupid.

quit forcing your fucking opinions on people because not everyone likes what you like. not once in this entire thread have i said that my car is badass, or a KA-T setup is the only way to go. i only stated that SR's are more of a bandwagon theme than 240's themself. and only after someone criticized the validity of another option besides an SR did i make my point be known.

i have just as much of a right to state my opinion as anyone does, so shut the fuck up and go back to tuning CRX's, or whatever you happen to be good at.

[Benefit]

apparently, your head has been too far up your ass to pick up the issue of Sport Compact Car and read the article about KA-T's and what they are capable of. in case your a lazy fuck, which i assume you are, its the February 2006 issue. it explains that in stock form with an adjustable fuel pressure regulator and nothing else but a turbo setup at 7lbs of boost, a KA will make 225whp. please show me a stock SR running 7lbs of boost that makes anywhere close to that, because i already know you cant. at best, you might find one that is at, or near 200chp, but thats it. so dont go running your dick-sucker before checking your facts.

and in case you want some more proof, just go check out KA-T.org for a few minutes and when you finally realize what a complete fucktard you are, you can go back to your ass-pounding session with all the other SR lovers... :gay:



she could take off the doors and push it down the street and it would still be a better car than that terd bucket that your gay-ass drives. :goodjob:

hold on let me handle this clown...

so you get all of your stupid idiotic facts from a fuckin magazine? i guess your one of those gallo 12 guys :screwy:

facts? ka-t org? do all of you ka-t loving retards idolize ivan and his 2 million dollar setup?

i guess your just mad cause we clowned your girl

i cant believe this guy came and said "GO PICK UP SO AND SO ISSUE OF SO AND SO MAGAZINE, CHECK THE FACTS" lmao!

[Benefit]

if you want to be cheap go ahead and do a ka-t, thats why theres arguments over this shit..OVER PRICE...ka plus this and that is x amount of dollars , sr is x amount of dollars...hey the ka-t is cheaper...i better go that route!

pathetic

[Benefit]

how the HELL is sr bandwagon when that was the engine designed for the car. your a bandwagoning KA-t bitch

[Tracy]

I have an SR20 and a 240 and I drift!!!! What now bitches :P

[Tracy]

Oh and I forgot to say I have a big ass ricey wing........FTW!

[Tracy]

and some ricey wheelz!!!!!!!!!!! :bannana:

[Tracy]

and my stickers add 32974017 whp...oh snap. I said it.

Bandwagon FTW. It happens to pay ma billz. Homie. Dats wazzup.

[Benefit]

I have an SR20 and a 240 and I drift!!!! What now bitches :P

yea if you have an sr20 , your pretty much a ricer...

but if you had a truck engine on boost...damnnnn!!!!

[Tracy]

yea if you have an sr20 , your pretty much a ricer...

but if you had a truck engine on boost...damnnnn!!!!

yay for my Uncle named Ben. He has done me right in this peez!

[Benefit]

what

[Capt._Ron]

and my stickers add 32974017 whp...oh snap. I said it.

Bandwagon FTW. It happens to pay ma billz. Homie. Dats wazzup.

No doubt fuck all this sr = ricer shit. Do what you do to the best of your ability and fuck what other people think. When someone does something good show some fucking respect for the hard work it took to get there.

[Benefit]

really the best part of this thread was when that one guy came in and said

go look at this issue of sportcar magazine , the ka-t made 225 hp!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!

[Tracy]

what


:D That's my ricer talk. I was practicing for my drift event this weekend.

[Benefit]

lol oh

[HalfBaked]

it explains that in stock form with an adjustable fuel pressure regulator and nothing else but a turbo setup at 7lbs of boost, a KA will make 225whp.

What turbo? You say a turbo set up...cool, put a big ass turbo on it at 7lbs and you can do that.

And your girlfriend drives an NA supra with no front bumper and a mismatched color hood.

She drives a wrecked celica, please explain how that is better then my car.

[OneSlow5pt0]

i say u throw a 20B in that bitch

[Benefit]

:D That's my ricer talk. I was practicing for my drift event this weekend.

as long as you have an sr , that should be ricer enough cause i mean sr's are so bandwagon ricer

[Sol-Badguy]

Truck motor FTL.

/thread

[Black95s14]

BTLFED why dont you stay with your hondas because apparently you dont know shit about 240s/silvias

you think that guys SR was making 300 hp on stock boost


what did he have two of them????

[OneSlow5pt0]

all i got to say is 20B 240 > SR20 240

[Black95s14]

Oh and benfitx

if someone takes a KA

does a simple build makes 225 hp

and then takes pictures and writes about it in a magazine

thats completely and underly a lie right??

I mean only the things you say are valid am I correct??

The same guy who says a STOCK sr can make 300 hp

Ill believe SPC before your dumbass any day

you can sit here and type your fingers off and call people cocksuckers yada yada yada.

it doesnt make you a hard ass. Im sure the ladies are lookin for who can pwn someone the best on tEh InterNetzZz

[HalfBaked]

LMAO.

I'M THE GUY WHO MADE 300WHP ON A STOCK SR WITH JUST FUEL AND BOOST CONTROLLER.

BTLFED WAS THERE THE NIGHT THE CAR WAS TUNED AND MADE THE POWER.

MY CLUTCH COULDN'T HOLD THE POWER SO THE CAR WAS DETUNED A BIT SO THAT IT COULD HANDLE IT, I ENDED THE NIGHT MAKING 276WHP AND 302FT LBS OF TORQUE, BUT I HAD MADE OVER 300WHP EARLIER IN THE NIGHT.

[Sol-Badguy]

This kid is insane.

SR = Reliable, badass power for the 240.
KA = Accident waiting to happen.

[Black95s14]

This kid is insane.

SR = Reliable, badass power for the 240.
KA = Accident waiting to happen.

makes sense

I mean everysingle KA-T ever has blown right?


Rationalization is fuckin stupid

[HalfBaked]

makes sense

I mean everysingle KA-T ever has blown right?


Rationalization is fuckin stupid
Reply to my post cocksucker.

Please tell me what you think now.

[Black95s14]

Reply to my post cocksucker.

Please tell me what you think now.

honestly I think your full of shit

No car boosting stock 8 lbs is going to get 300 hp

I could take our 84 turbo Z do what you did and I still wouldnt make 300 hp

I am sorry but I am not going to believe you, also funny how you dis my sister for not having a bumper, didn......didn't yours not have one for a while???

[OneSlow5pt0]

boost a 20B 8 pouns you will make over 300hp:)

[HalfBaked]

honestly I think your full of shit

No car boosting stock 8 lbs is going to get 300 hp

I could take our 84 turbo Z do what you did and I still wouldnt make 300 hp

I am sorry but I am not going to believe you, also funny how you dis my sister for not having a bumper, didn......didn't yours not have one for a while???
LMAO THATS YOUR SISTER? WITH THE PIERCED CLIT?

THATS FUNNY.

I NEVER SAID IT WAS AT 8LBS SON. I SAID MY ONLY MODS WERE BOOST CONTROLLER AND FUEL AND EXHAUST.

AS FOR WHY MY CAR HAD NO BUMPER, THAT WAS BECAUSE I HAD TO CUT IT TO MAKE ROOM FOR MY INTERCOOLER, YOUR SISTER HAS NO BUMPER BECAUSE SHE IS POOR WHITE TRASH WITH HER N/A SUPRA.

[Black95s14]

LMAO THATS YOUR SISTER? WITH THE PIERCED CLIT?

THATS FUNNY.

I NEVER SAID IT WAS AT 8LBS SON. I SAID MY ONLY MODS WERE BOOST CONTROLLER AND FUEL AND EXHAUST.

AS FOR WHY MY CAR HAD NO BUMPER, THAT WAS BECAUSE I HAD TO CUT IT TO MAKE ROOM FOR MY INTERCOOLER, YOUR SISTER HAS NO BUMPER BECAUSE SHE IS POOR WHITE TRASH WITH HER N/A SUPRA.

guess what

my poor white trash sister has a supra

and you dont

[HalfBaked]

guess what

my poor white trash sister has a supra

and you dont
A N/A supra with no front bumper and mismatched colored hood and shitty ass ugly wheels.

Yea, that makes her a badass.

N/A supra doesn't make it a nice car, it makes it a heavy slow ass piece of shit.

[Black95s14]

A N/A supra with no front bumper and mismatched colored hood and shitty ass ugly wheels.

Yea, that makes her a badass.

N/A supra doesn't make it a nice car, it makes it a heavy slow ass piece of shit.

If im not wrong
You 240 was NA at one point with the KA right??? You obviously didnt keep it that way

What makes you think that supra is going to stay that way??
The mismatch hood is a brand new toyota hood who gives a shit

No bumper...Ill use your excuse shes gotta make room for an intercooler

Who cares, its a toyota supra, stay with your 240 worth 2 grand she could turn around and sell that car for more then triple yours

so just keep talkin it doesnt matter, we'll see what happens once its fixed up

[HalfBaked]

If im not wrong
You 240 was NA at one point with the KA right??? You obviously didnt keep it that way

What makes you think that supra is going to stay that way??
The mismatch hood is a brand new toyota hood who gives a shit

No bumper...Ill use your excuse shes gotta make room for an intercooler

Who cares, its a toyota supra, stay with your 240 worth 2 grand she could turn around and sell that car for more then triple yours

so just keep talkin it doesnt matter, we'll see what happens once its fixed up
LMAO.

I DON'T OWN A 240 DUMBFUCK. I DRIVE ANOTHER SR POWERED CAR BOY. TALK TO ME WHEN YOU SEE WHAT I DRIVE. KTHXCUDDLESBYE.

[Benefit]

wow at this blacks14 guy again....just look at it this way guys

if you had a choice between a Sr20 240sx or a KA-t 240sx which one would you take , both making the same exact power

[OneSlow5pt0]

im dead serious some needs to build a 20B 240 it would be a beast...i tryed to find one,but only found 13B 240s

[BTLFED]

and you think you are a badass? you dont know shit about me either dumbfuck. you posts are pointless and irrelevant and all you can do is say the same shit over and over.

i have had just as many "years" of experience as you have dumbass and i trust what i have seen, done, or that has been successful and i know about it. i dont just go grab some stupid thread and say, "This is the only truth! Believe it, or I will become an internet troll and force you to believe!" its so stupid.

quit forcing your fucking opinions on people because not everyone likes what you like. not once in this entire thread have i said that my car is badass, or a KA-T setup is the only way to go. i only stated that SR's are more of a bandwagon theme than 240's themself. and only after someone criticized the validity of another option besides an SR did i make my point be known.

i have just as much of a right to state my opinion as anyone does, so shut the fuck up and go back to tuning CRX's, or whatever you happen to be good at.

You really are an idiot. Having fun turning everything I say around? Shut your fucking mouth, moron.

[BTLFED]

BTLFED why dont you stay with your hondas because apparently you dont know shit about 240s/silvias

you think that guys SR was making 300 hp on stock boost


what did he have two of them????

How about YOU shut your fucking mouth because I NEVER said he was running stock boost you waste of fucking flesh. I said he was using the STOCK turbo you moron.

Are all KA-T guys this stupid? :rolleyes:

[BTLFED]

And FYI USDM240 (with a Silvia front, makes sense :rolleyes: ), and IgnorantS14, I also own a fucking Nissan that is RWD and not a mother fucking bandwagon 240. :smilefu:

[cactusEG]

How bout some originality

Everyone and their brother wants an SR

all you sr guys think automatically ill swap it in and make stock power or a little more with a FMIC and a blow off valve and that your car is unstoppable

I made this comment in the KA thread

assume 3 grand for a good complete SR swap

and thats stock SR just at or a little over 200 hp

imagine 3 grand in a KA

that would be pushin close to 500 hp

why is this motor so hated

its called torque, and its a good thing :goodjob:


http://a518.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/01523/71/52/1523292517_l.jpg

Heres a towel:leghump:

what ever is stronger and take the power u wanna push out ...

[TheSnail]

I dyno'd 154rwhp with my ka. Though it spun a rod less then two weeks later. True story. I then went and bought and sr then rb20 then rb20 then ca18 then rb20 then rb26 then sr then sr and now am buying another sr. So as you see, after 154whp blew my ka, I decided that even a rb20>ka. And thats a pretty big statement saying there exists a motor that is inferior to the rb20.

[BTLFED]

I dyno'd 154rwhp with my ka. Though it spun a rod less then two weeks later. True story. I then went and bought and sr then rb20 then rb20 then ca18 then rb20 then rb26 then sr then sr and now am buying another sr. So as you see, after 154whp blew my ka, I decided that even a rb20>ka. And thats a pretty big statement saying there exists a motor that is inferior to the rb20.

:eek: And to think I was putting the KA on top of the RB20. I guess I was giving it too much credit.

[Maniaç]

ATTN: USDM240, why is your screen name USDM if you have a "JDM" front end?
you sir are a fucking moron.. i agree with BTLFED, you fucking suck at life, please do us all a favor and end your pathetic(sp) life now!

[TheSnail]

Yep. Even the beater ass, turbo smoking, valve tap bellowing, jdm junkyard clunker rb20 can withstand more hp stock for stock then the ka.

[BTLFED]

Yep. Even the beater ass, turbo smoking, valve tap bellowing, jdm junkyard clunker rb20 can withstand more hp stock for stock then the ka.

Is that from a magazine? :lmfao:

[TheSnail]

No, do I sound like a one of those guys? lol

[BTLFED]

No, do I sound like a one of those guys? lol

Hell no, you have more sense than these two LOL! :lmfao:

[TheSnail]

Now mounts for 1980-83 GMC 3/4ton Pickup are available

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y261/thesnail/engine20coming20outcopy.jpg?t=1181178985

[BTLFED]

Now mounts for 1980-83 GMC 3/4ton Pickup are available

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y261/thesnail/engine20coming20outcopy.jpg?t=1181178985

Bahahahahaha! :lmfao:

+14!

[Tracy]

uhhhhh 240's are gay. Why do we have to have this fight every other month on every auto forum that god ever created? GET OVER IT! 240's are gay. Any motor you put in them is gay. It's all just gay. I don't understand even debating it.

Just buy a Mustang. That's where you make some real powa!

[OneSlow5pt0]

uhhhhh 240's are gay. Why do we have to have this fight every other month on every auto forum that god ever created. GET OVER IT! 240's are gay. Any motor you put in them is gay. It's all just gay. I don't understand even debating it.

Just buy a Mustang. That's where you make some real powa!

x2

[BTLFED]

uhhhhh 240's are gay. Why do we have to have this fight every other month on every auto forum that god ever created? GET OVER IT! 240's are gay. Any motor you put in them is gay. It's all just gay. I don't understand even debating it.

Just buy a Mustang. That's where you make some real powa!

See signature. ;)

[OneSlow5pt0]

lol,your sig speaks truth

[Stopsnitchin]

SRs are not gay.

[Black95s14]

ATTN: USDM240, why is your screen name USDM if you have a "JDM" front end?
you sir are a fucking moron.. i agree with BTLFED, you fucking suck at life, please do us all a favor and end your pathetic(sp) life now!

Maybe because thats what it is...?????
:screwy:

You know
Left hand drive
KA24

240SX

If I took my 240 and put an integra front end on the car, would it not be a 240 anymore??

[Benefit]

what is this guy blabbering about now?

[Sol-Badguy]

LIRL @ HypnoToad never getting noticed.

[Benefit]

hahaha @ hypnotoad

[OneSlow5pt0]

lol,haters................

[Sol-Badguy]

I'm not hating.

I've just been waiting on someone to see your posts. I've seen everyone of them. :D

[OneSlow5pt0]

lol,their golden and full of facts

[HalfBaked]

I just ignore them. No one cares about 20bs.

[Maniaç]

Maybe because thats what it is...?????
:screwy:

You know
Left hand drive
KA24

240SX

If I took my 240 and put an integra front end on the car, would it not be a 240 anymore??
you sir are a fucking retard, don't fucking quote me and come at me with that bullshit!
his car is fucking slow, and so is your POS. now, please continue posting in this god damn worthless thread.

[OneSlow5pt0]

I just ignore them. No one cares about 20bs.

....some people do:cry:

[Black95s14]

you sir are a fucking retard, don't fucking quote me and come at me with that bullshit!
his car is fucking slow, and so is your POS. now, please continue posting in this god damn worthless thread.

someones gstring is too far up their ass

[Maniaç]

someones gstring is too far up their ass
that was fucking lame bro.. did it take you that long to come up with that? i wear boxers, get real man... don't come at me with retarded shit like that.. peace.

[EmotorsportsE]

I don't mind KA-T's, or RB20's, but unless you're gonna build a KA, it's not worth it. Yes you can get some easy torque, but it generally never lasts that long. Before too long you're replacing pistons. I liked my RB20 because it would hold the power better than the KA-T, but didn't have the torque that the ka-t did, but it had more reliablity at least to 308hp for over a year at 14psi. Now SR's, I hate to say it, but I've never had problems with them, swap them into a 240 and everyone beats on them and they last. I've known plenty of people running around with 400 hp SR's on stock internals for a long time. I can't argue with that. SR's are easy to swap, and work on compared to RB's, you can do one in your own garage at home in a day or two. I've done all of the swaps, and SR's are the most cost effective for everyone, and can make the power.

E

[BTLFED]

I don't mind KA-T's, or RB20's, but unless you're gonna build a KA, it's not worth it. Yes you can get some easy torque, but it generally never lasts that long. Before too long you're replacing pistons. I liked my RB20 because it would hold the power better than the KA-T, but didn't have the torque that the ka-t did, but it had more reliablity at least to 308hp for over a year at 14psi. Now SR's, I hate to say it, but I've never had problems with them, swap them into a 240 and everyone beats on them and they last. I've known plenty of people running around with 400 hp SR's on stock internals for a long time. I can't argue with that. SR's are easy to swap, and work on compared to RB's, you can do one in your own garage at home in a day or two. I've done all of the swaps, and SR's are the most cost effective for everyone, and can make the power.

E

Oh no! You posted the truth and you have a shop! Watch out for the magazine bench racers (USDM240 and his boyfriend FaggotyassS14)! They might threaten to kick your ass! :lmfao:

+14 for helping the retards see the truth! :goodjob:

[HalfBaked]

I don't mind KA-T's, or RB20's, but unless you're gonna build a KA, it's not worth it. Yes you can get some easy torque, but it generally never lasts that long. Before too long you're replacing pistons. I liked my RB20 because it would hold the power better than the KA-T, but didn't have the torque that the ka-t did, but it had more reliablity at least to 308hp for over a year at 14psi. Now SR's, I hate to say it, but I've never had problems with them, swap them into a 240 and everyone beats on them and they last. I've known plenty of people running around with 400 hp SR's on stock internals for a long time. I can't argue with that. SR's are easy to swap, and work on compared to RB's, you can do one in your own garage at home in a day or two. I've done all of the swaps, and SR's are the most cost effective for everyone, and can make the power.

E
Wow. I think thats the best post you've ever made. lol

[EmotorsportsE]

Well being different and going KA-T can be fun, but if I am going to drop 6-7 grand building a nice turbo setup and a built KA, you'll sit back and realize that you just dropped 7 grand on a stock 240, thats a nice down payment on a newer sports car of my liking, a C5 vette. That doesn't even include the 3g's you spent on the fornt end conversion, wheels, or suspension over the past 3 years while saving for your motor. Or I can drop 4 grand on a S14 SR with exhaust, and a FMIC, and boost controller, and make 300hp all day long out of a 240, and still have 4g's left for a nicer car. So there's nothing worng with 240's, you just gotta think long term about your decision.

E

[BTLFED]

Well being different and going KA-T can be fun, but if I am going to drop 6-7 grand building a nice turbo setup and a built KA, you'll sit back and realize that you just dropped 7 grand on a stock 240, thats a nice down payment on a newer sports car of my liking, a C5 vette. That doesn't even include the 3g's you spent on the fornt end conversion, wheels, or suspension over the past 3 years while saving for your motor. Or I can drop 4 grand on a S14 SR with exhaust, and a FMIC, and boost controller, and make 300hp all day long out of a 240, and still have 4g's left for a nicer car. So there's nothing worng with 240's, you just gotta think long term about your decision.

E

Fantastic logic, and I agree completely. :goodjob:

[Benefit]

that is exactly what i was trying to say. :)

[Black95s14]

Oh no! You posted the truth and you have a shop! Watch out for the magazine bench racers (USDM240 and his boyfriend FaggotyassS14)! They might threaten to kick your ass! :lmfao:

+14 for helping the retards see the truth! :goodjob:


You realize you are the only one laughing at yourself

And how many times do I have to tell you get your fuckin little honda rice ass outa here CRX boy

[OneSlow5pt0]

i know something that will beat the KA-T and its only 1.3L

[driftjunkE]

As long as it doesn't blow up too.

E

[BTLFED]

You realize you are the only one laughing at yourself

And how many times do I have to tell you get your fuckin little honda rice ass outa here CRX boy

How about you shut your god damn mouth and read ALL my posts you fucking douchebag. I have a fucking Nissan too, and its not a mother fucking bandwagon 240 like your little bitch ass drives. DIAF.

[Benefit]

fuck sr's

http://img170.imageshack.us/img170/3670/1009079ic4.jpg (http://img244.imageshack.us/img244/341/1009079sl5.jpg)

[Tracy]

http://www.batlground.com/gallery/albums/newdriftcar/normal_DSC04131.JPG


YEA FUCK SR'S

[Sol-Badguy]

I can't believe it's still going..

When will he learn that a truck motor just isn't as reliable as the real thing? :D

[HalfBaked]

Yea fuck srs...

What an old picture tho.

[Benefit]

tracy just owned me...

[OneSlow5pt0]

i like this one:D http://us1.webpublications.com.au/static/images/articles/i27/2757_2mg.jpg

[BTLFED]

Stop forcing your Mazda nonsense on us! We like pistons, damnit!

[OneSlow5pt0]

lol

[Benefit]

what happens if the apex seals blow , hypnotoad

[OneSlow5pt0]

i can blow up piston engine just as fast as a rotary

[Benefit]

yea but its easier to rebuild the piston engine

[OneSlow5pt0]

fuck rebuilding,just pop a new one in

[Benefit]

yeah cause were all ballin like that

[OneSlow5pt0]

a 13BT is only like $1k

[StupidBikerBoy]

I like that motor don't get me wrong, but i cant see the point of swapping in a heavier motor and adding two cylinders and losing .4 ltrs from the KA


Simple power equation. more valve area = more power.

[StupidBikerBoy]

i think eveybody should get over the sr and start putting the ls1 in there

Well said.

If you truly are after the most power potential/parts availability/price, the LS1 is the way to go. Capable of 450 REAR wheel hp with just a cam swap, rev to 7k safely stock (arp rod bolts are suggested past that), weighs less than all other 240 swaps except the SR, can get over 30 mpg, and will hold up to 700hp on the stock bottom. Its also one of the easiest swaps I have ever performed. You can even upgrade or even stroke the bottom end for less than $2k.

Then theres the power under the curve (torque), which is always great. Imagine what you could do with a boosted one?

[StupidBikerBoy]

putting an ls1 into a car almost cost as much as putting an rb26 into a car

:umno:

Nowhere near it. And take that from someone who has done both.

[2jz240sx]

yeah but its american FUCK THAT

[StupidBikerBoy]

^True.

FYI, I've driven my SR to Orlando twice, and once to Deal's Gap (where I ran the Tail of the Dragon 4 times). Running 13psi the whole time. Doesn't burn oil. Doesn't run weird. Doesn't smoke. Gets decent gas mileage (around 22city, 26hwy). I don't drift, but I drag race (14.5 currently, working on my launch) and autoX (will get to run it June 9th). I have power steering (working HICAS), a factory LSD, ABS, and will have A/C in a couple weeks. I've invested around $5500 total, including the cost of the car.

^^^ That's not all dependant on having an SR....but it's made everything so easy and cheap. I wish everything in life was that way.

For around the same you could have 400hp, 30+ mpg, working dash, working AC, working PS, stock reliabilty, and an 11 second capable car.

I have close to $10k in this project, including the 95' S14. And thats also including $2500 in engine mods, Kaaz 2 way, aluminum driveshaft, and much more that I didnt need to include.

Not bashing on the SR (it is a great swap), just pointing out some things about the LS1 swap.

[StupidBikerBoy]

yeah but its american FUCK THAT

Whats that got to do with anything? Arent you also?:lmfao:

[SpecV_Scott]

For around the same you could have 400hp, 30+ mpg, working dash, working AC, working PS, stock reliabilty, and an 11 second capable car.

I have close to $10k in this project, including the 95' S14. And thats also including $2500 in engine mods, Kaaz 2 way, aluminum driveshaft, and much more that I didnt need to include.

Not bashing on the SR (it is a great swap), just pointing out some things about the LS1 swap.

I agree the LS1 has it's merits. I just don't trust GM's reliability as far as I could throw it.

BTW, I autoX'd my car yesterday. The trip was awesome because I now have working A/C ($140 cutom line made by Auto Cool in Smyrna). I had never raced a RWD car, nor had I REALLY pushed my 240 like that....so I learned a lot. But the car kicked serious ass. It was SOOOOO fun to fly around those cones, and be able to steer it with the gas pedal. I had ZERO problems all day...even flying around an autocross in 98degree weather in first gear close to redline.

I <3 my SR.

[StupidBikerBoy]

I agree the LS1 has it's merits. I just don't trust GM's reliability as far as I could throw it.

BTW, I autoX'd my car yesterday. The trip was awesome because I now have working A/C ($140 cutom line made by Auto Cool in Smyrna). I had never raced a RWD car, nor had I REALLY pushed my 240 like that....so I learned a lot. But the car kicked serious ass. It was SOOOOO fun to fly around those cones, and be able to steer it with the gas pedal. I had ZERO problems all day...even flying around an autocross in 98degree weather in first gear close to redline.

I <3 my SR.

Why do you not trust thier reliability? GM's engine reliability has been proven over and over and easily tops most others, especially when it comes to V8's. Of course they like all manufacturers have had their bad apples, but overall they are one of the top for reliability. The small block chevy has been the longest running design over ALL other engines, and it was designed in the early 50's. Granted nowhere near the most efficient motor, but to say they arent reliable is just not true. No offense, but it sounds as though you just dont know much about them.

How many 300K mile SR's, KA's, B16's, 2JZ's, RB's, 1JZ's, etc. have you seen that are still running? I have personally seen (and owned quite a few) a lot more GM motors still going at 300K than any other, by a long shot. Of course I did have a GM 2.8 v6 turd once, now that was a shitty motor.

Great now I feel like a GM fanboy. :rolleyes:

I <3 my SR too!

[OneSlow5pt0]

Why do you not trust thier reliability? GM's engine reliability has been proven over and over and easily tops most others, especially when it comes to V8's. Of course they like all manufacturers have had their bad apples, but overall they are one of the top for reliability. The small block chevy has been the longest running design over ALL other engines, and it was designed in the early 50's. Granted nowhere near the most efficient motor, but to say they arent reliable is just not true. No offense, but it sounds as though you just dont know much about them.

How many 300K mile SR's, KA's, B16's, 2JZ's, RB's, 1JZ's, etc. have you seen that are still running? I have personally seen (and owned quite a few) a lot more GM motors still going at 300K than any other, by a long shot. Of course I did have a GM 2.8 v6 turd once, now that was a shitty motor.

Great now I feel like a GM fanboy. :rolleyes:

I <3 my SR too!














20B

[StupidBikerBoy]

LMFAO!! +1

[Benefit]

lmao @ the toad

[OneSlow5pt0]

ya laugh now,but just wait....and yall gonna shit when u see the C4 vette with a 26B i got planned

[Benefit]

lol

[Stopsnitchin]

sr20 is the shit!

[OneSlow5pt0]

lol,yall better hope i dont get rich.....or ill rip your 240s a new one....and stick my wankel in

[Extrememustang]

SR gonna pull a premuim. WTF does that mean?

[Extrememustang]

man this guy just got a 240 , he doesn't know shit yet....

KA cant compete with an SR , what the HELL DON'T YOU UNDERSTAND??

you turbo a KA to get to the same level as a STOCK SR...is that so hard to understand????



Ok lets look at this yes you TURBO a KA you get same HP as a SR. UMMM SR is ALREADY turboed so take off the turbo and what does a sr get? Also its a truck motor. OMFG so they put that motor is a truck big whoop. My ridgeline has a 3.5 in it so does a 350z.My fucking 94 KA altima was runnin in the 13;s and omg its a altima, FWD and a ka24de, well yea and it was still realiable

[Extrememustang]

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH! Awesome. A KA with exhaust puts down about 130whp. So where is that 70whp going to come from? You will spend WAY more to get a KA to 200whp NA than you would spend just swapping in an SR.

I'm not saying the SR is the best engine. I'm just saying it's the easiest. They're cheap, they're light, they're easy to install, and there is a fucking ginormous aftermarket for them.

um my ka when it was stock was 155hp

[TheSnail]

Thats at the crank though. If you want to talk crank hp my na sr has 200-210

[Benefit]

ok fuck it whatever , im throwing my sr in the trash and putting a ka-t in it OK

[Benefit]

even bitches know

b e n e f i t x (12:51:45 AM): SR20DET.
b e n e f i t x (12:51:49 AM): What is it?
SwEeTaZsUgR69 (12:51:41 AM): Nissan Sr Engine
b e n e f i t x (12:52:02 AM): you googled it
SwEeTaZsUgR69 (12:53:17 AM): no
b e n e f i t x (12:53:49 AM): do you know what a kat is
SwEeTaZsUgR69 (12:54:06 AM): nope dont care
b e n e f i t x (12:54:39 AM): exactly

[SpecV_Scott]

Why do you not trust thier reliability? GM's engine reliability has been proven over and over and easily tops most others, especially when it comes to V8's. Of course they like all manufacturers have had their bad apples, but overall they are one of the top for reliability. The small block chevy has been the longest running design over ALL other engines, and it was designed in the early 50's. Granted nowhere near the most efficient motor, but to say they arent reliable is just not true. No offense, but it sounds as though you just dont know much about them.

How many 300K mile SR's, KA's, B16's, 2JZ's, RB's, 1JZ's, etc. have you seen that are still running? I have personally seen (and owned quite a few) a lot more GM motors still going at 300K than any other, by a long shot. Of course I did have a GM 2.8 v6 turd once, now that was a shitty motor.

Great now I feel like a GM fanboy. :rolleyes:

I <3 my SR too!

Reason #1 why I don't trust GM shit: DEXCOOL
info (http://www.consumeraffairs.com/automotive/gm_dexcool.html)

Sure the SBC has been around forever. It's a fundamentally sound design. I just have a few friends with LS1s that have had a lot of minor issues sprout up on low-mileage cars....things that just should not be happening to "new" cars. Like power steering pumps going out before 40,000mi. Random A/C parts starting to leak refrigerant. Glass windows separating from convertible tops. I know these things aren't really related to the LS1 itself...but it all just makes me want to stay the hell away from anything GM.

Now, if someone offered me an FD powered by either a 13B or a LS1...I'd probably take the LS1! But that's another story entirely.

[SpecV_Scott]

um my ka when it was stock was 155hp

Just like TheSnail said...that's at the CRANK. On a dyno, a stock KA will put down 130whp if it's healthy. Take in mind I saw a S14 with a catback and intake make 130whp. I've seen a SOHC KA put down 99whp.

[OneSlow5pt0]

Reason #1 why I don't trust GM shit: DEXCOOL
info (http://www.consumeraffairs.com/automotive/gm_dexcool.html)

Sure the SBC has been around forever. It's a fundamentally sound design. I just have a few friends with LS1s that have had a lot of minor issues sprout up on low-mileage cars....things that just should not be happening to "new" cars. Like power steering pumps going out before 40,000mi. Random A/C parts starting to leak refrigerant. Glass windows separating from convertible tops. I know these things aren't really related to the LS1 itself...but it all just makes me want to stay the hell away from anything GM.

Now, if someone offered me an FD powered by either a 13B or a LS1...I'd probably take the LS1! But that's another story entirely.

then i would have to take that Fd off your hands:taun:

[EmotorsportsE]

The reason Dex-cool has ever been an issue was because when you mix standard coolant and dex-cool, it won't cause any issues. If you pay attention and use dex-cool and only dex-cool, I have never seen any issues. I worked at a kauffman tire for 2 years, and and oil change plce for another 2, always doing coolant flushes, never seeing any issues. Thats just a small group of people who had an issue, maybe .001$ of all GM's sold, and found someting to blame it on, thats why GM will never come out and say there was ever an issue. Mixing is the problem, not Dex-cool alone.

E

[Extrememustang]

Thats at the crank though. If you want to talk crank hp my na sr has 200-210

Ok if ka24de CAME turboed from the factory like a sr I wonder what the hp was. See sr has a turbo and made for a turbo, ka arnt turbo and arnt made for turboing. So like I said I wonder if it came turboed and made for it what it would put down.

[Benefit]

enough with the IF questions.

[BTLFED]

If your aunt had balls would she be your uncle?

[Sleepy122CID]

The reason Dex-cool has ever been an issue was because when you mix standard coolant and dex-cool, it won't cause any issues. If you pay attention and use dex-cool and only dex-cool, I have never seen any issues. I worked at a kauffman tire for 2 years, and and oil change plce for another 2, always doing coolant flushes, never seeing any issues. Thats just a small group of people who had an issue, maybe .001$ of all GM's sold, and found someting to blame it on, thats why GM will never come out and say there was ever an issue. Mixing is the problem, not Dex-cool alone.

E

If you let Dex-Cool get low at all (ie air in the system) it will also cause it to turn to mud.

[SpecV_Scott]

The reason Dex-cool has ever been an issue was because when you mix standard coolant and dex-cool, it won't cause any issues. If you pay attention and use dex-cool and only dex-cool, I have never seen any issues. I worked at a kauffman tire for 2 years, and and oil change plce for another 2, always doing coolant flushes, never seeing any issues. Thats just a small group of people who had an issue, maybe .001$ of all GM's sold, and found someting to blame it on, thats why GM will never come out and say there was ever an issue. Mixing is the problem, not Dex-cool alone.

E

I can see that being a legitimate issue. Kind of like how you have to use ATF in Nissan power steering pumps. But if some dumbass put regular power steering fluid in it years ago, all you gotta do is replace a pump. If someone mixes coolant types in a GM (according to your explanation)....the damage can be much more significant.

[OneSlow5pt0]

I can see that being a legitimate issue. Kind of like how you have to use ATF in Nissan power steering pumps. But if some dumbass put regular power steering fluid in it years ago, all you gotta do is replace a pump. If someone mixes coolant types in a GM (according to your explanation)....the damage can be much more significant.


some one told me 12As are good:rolleyes:

[EmotorsportsE]

If the KA came from the factory turboed, they would have destroked it, beefed up the pistons and called it an KA20DET here in the US, while it would have been known as the SR20DET in Japan.

E

[Benefit]

lmao

[OneSlow5pt0]

u guys and your KA,SR...guess yall will never know.....

[Benefit]

you and your 13, 15, 20 , 26b's

[OneSlow5pt0]

lol,whats a 15?

u forgat 12a

[Tracy]

me and my riced out SR20 240 on the band wagon from this past weekend!!! H0o0o0o0o!

http://www.bradystribling.com/nopistl/content/bin/images/large/DSC_8704.jpg

[TheSnail]

Tracy, I wanna see a Liger not a god damn 240

[Tracy]

Tracy, I wanna see a Liger not a god damn 240

http://liger.org/images/liger.jpg

Now don't speak unless spoken to!!!!!! :D

[TheSnail]

Yeah thats half assed, but I'll accept it as a liger.

[Benefit]

tracy you are such a ricer bandwagoner with that SR in your car

[Big J]

wow, 11 pages.............

[OneSlow5pt0]

wow, 11 pages.............

but 2 or 3 is about Rotary:D

[Sol-Badguy]

DAMNIT, TOAD!!!!

Rotories are ghey. :D :D :D

[Tracy]

I forgot to tell you guys this. This past weekend in ST. Louis where we were drifting, one of the drivers (Rob Fleming from XAT) drives a KA-T, fully built and makes about 450 whp, blew up his motor. It literally blew the engine to pieces. He had a piece of the block that was like 6 inches by 6 inches that he saved.

[Benefit]

lmao

[OneSlow5pt0]

lol

[OneSlow5pt0]

DAMNIT, TOAD!!!!

Rotories are ghey. :D :D :D

no, their not...

and im just trying to spice up a dull thread:D

[Extrememustang]

If the KA came from the factory turboed, they would have destroked it, beefed up the pistons and called it an KA20DET here in the US, while it would have been known as the SR20DET in Japan.

E

So why do you think they would have taken away disp?

[Mooney1184]

just from my expierence with my 240. sr with front mount, lsd, 12 psi, profec b, blitz bov, afc II, 3" exhaust, it was a fun car, and i really enjoyed how much the motor loved to rev, but if i had to do it all over again i would buy a ca18det. iron block = ton of boost, one lobe per valve unlike sr's one lobe per 2 valves, all around better valve train, better bore/stroke ratio, revs higher than sr, intake manifold splits into 8 runners (2 per cylinder), 1 stays closed until 4ishk rpms and then opens for better low end torque, basically its a 4banger rb motor. the ONLY reason nissan stopped producing the ca is because of how much it cost to build, NOT because it was an old design. do your research. you want a sr killer??? ca18det head, ca20 block, and tomei stroker kit, you get a bulletproof 2.2 4 banger.

aside from that the ka isnt so bad itself, thye have come a long way in getting power out of the "truck" motor. i would so do a ka24det for drag simply because of the god like torque it produces. and in MOST cases of a stock sr vs. a well tuned ka24det w/ a simple t25, the ka will win the 1/4, but it lacks top end.

these guys do wonders with ka's www.ka-t.org

but thats just my 2 cents.

[TheSnail]

^^ Or just get an fj20 rather then a ca hybid

[Mooney1184]

ca = better valvetrain

[Benefit]

i liked your post until you said something about a ka24det.

[Extrememustang]

http://liger.org/images/liger.jpg

Now don't speak unless spoken to!!!!!! :D


awwwwwww it needs a hug.Lol

[EmotorsportsE]

I think 240's are just a bandwagon thing now, doesn't matter what motor you have, SR, RB, KA, you're on the bandwagon. I bought my first one 8 years ago, I think that was before the bandwagon arrived. I think I am gonna hop on the SR wagon in a few weeks, thinking a 13 blacktop with a gt30R, wanting 350-400 max. I don't feel like replacing trannies every few weeks. KA in my vert just isn't cutting it anymore, and I am enjoying this S14 SR into this S13 I just did.

E

[OneSlow5pt0]

I think 240's are just a bandwagon thing now, doesn't matter what motor you have, SR, RB, KA, you're on the bandwagon. I bought my first one 8 years ago, I think that was before the bandwagon arrived. I think I am gonna hop on the SR wagon in a few weeks, thinking a 13 blacktop with a gt30R, wanting 350-400 max. I don't feel like replacing trannies every few weeks. KA in my vert just isn't cutting it anymore, and I am enjoying this S14 SR into this S13 I just did.

E

dare to be diffent





























































20B 240 FTW:goodjob:

[Benefit]

is the new fad now and days saying "i had a 240 way before you knew what a 240 was"...

[OneSlow5pt0]

is the new fad now and days saying "i had a 240 way before you knew what a 240 was"...


lol,then it will be i had a SRT4 before u knew bout them.............................................. .................:lmfao:

[TheSnail]

ca = better valvetrain


Yeah right. Fj20 is god because of its valvetrain/head

[TheSnail]

"DOHC 2- or 2.4 L internal combustion engine produced by Nissan in the 1980s, first in 2.4 L guise as a rally motor for the 240RS, but then later de-stroked to 2 L for general production models when the 240RS could no longer race. The 2.0 L variant was used in the Nissan Silvia/Nissan Gazelle/200SX, and DR30 Nissan Skyline. The 2.4 L variant was used in the S110 Nissan 240RS. While a 1.5 L variant was designed and a prototype built, it never actually went into production. It is acclaimed as the forefather of the CA engine. It has a magnesium head and an iron block, and was available in Japan and the UK. It was discontinued in the late 1980s due to its prohibitive cost. It is most like the CA series because of the cam-over-valve design and iron block with lightweight head. The SR series later replaced the CA in 1991 with its more economical to manufacture rocker arm type valvetrain and aluminum block"

[Tracy]

The bandwagon comments are so funny to me. Who really cares? It's a good car. It's cheap. It has a lot of options as far as swaps go. They work good. There's tons of parts available for them. There is good reason that everyone is doing them. So you had one back in the day.....awesome!

I'm proud to be on the bandwagon.

[Benefit]

thats why they call it the perfect machine :)

[OneSlow5pt0]

thats why they call it the perfect machine :)

what do u have under the hood?

[Benefit]

20b

[OneSlow5pt0]

20b

good man...least one person is listening

[Mooney1184]

"DOHC 2- or 2.4 L internal combustion engine produced by Nissan in the 1980s, first in 2.4 L guise as a rally motor for the 240RS, but then later de-stroked to 2 L for general production models when the 240RS could no longer race. The 2.0 L variant was used in the Nissan Silvia/Nissan Gazelle/200SX, and DR30 Nissan Skyline. The 2.4 L variant was used in the S110 Nissan 240RS. While a 1.5 L variant was designed and a prototype built, it never actually went into production. It is acclaimed as the forefather of the CA engine. It has a magnesium head and an iron block, and was available in Japan and the UK. It was discontinued in the late 1980s due to its prohibitive cost. It is most like the CA series because of the cam-over-valve design and iron block with lightweight head. The SR series later replaced the CA in 1991 with its more economical to manufacture rocker arm type valvetrain and aluminum block"

good info, guess i got some googling to do tonight.

[AFSil80]

intake manifold splits into 8 runners (2 per cylinder), 1 stays closed until 4ishk rpms and then opens for better low end torque

+1 and good post, and I'm probably gonna get flamed for this, but:

I don't see why people like the butterfly valves in the J-spec CA. I've seen UK-spec CA's do some serious damage on and off the track, and they have a 4 runner-4 port design. None of that butterfly stuff. Shit, the highest hp CA18 outside of Japan is a UK-spec S13.

I dunno, I just think this would flow better than splitting it into 8 ports. Not to mention that damn near every CA I've seen w/ the head/intake mani off is gummed up behind the valves.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v601/AFSil80/CA18DETIntakeManifold.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v601/AFSil80/CA18DETIntakePorts.jpg

Oh, and I'm gonna reinforce my earlier post.

CA18ET > KA24. The KA in my 90 S13 blew up 2 weeks after I got it. And the CA18 in my S12 has gone through HELL with the last owner. Yet it still runs, and gets nearly 300 miles out of a 12 gallon tank. Runs pig rich, but fact is, it runs and it's not showing any signs of the rods saying hello to the fender wells after punching their way out of the block.

[Turbo Terrance]

So Which one do You prefer SR20DET or KA24DET?!?!?!?

[Benefit]

^ wow @ this guy

[OneSlow5pt0]

lol

[HalfBaked]

So Which one do You prefer SR20DET or KA24DET?!?!?!?
20b.

[Benefit]

20b ftw

[OneSlow5pt0]

20Bs all around

[.gauge.]

Yeah, the nissan pickup came with a ka24.
But the 240sx and Altima came with a ka24.
Not to mention the Stanza has a KA24E.

So I mean 3 > 1.

So the Nissan pickup has a car engine?

[ahmonrah]

damn, this is one of those threads i will not even comment in......DAMMIT! I JUST DID!! oops.....guess that's the KA in me! just kidding, i'm not sure which direction i'm going in in terms of engines.....KA? SR? RB? LS1? 2J? 1ZFZZE? DC? LOL!!! I'M TRIPPIN.

[Black R]

roots blower ka24de!

[Black R]

oh yeah, where's the pictures of the clit-ring cause that's really all we care about at this point!

[BTLFED]

damn, this is one of those threads i will not even comment in......DAMMIT! I JUST DID!! oops.....guess that's the KA in me! just kidding, i'm not sure which direction i'm going in in terms of engines.....KA? SR? RB? LS1? 2J? 1ZFZZE? DC? LOL!!! I'M TRIPPIN.

You are Wildn' out!

[OneSlow5pt0]

damn, this is one of those threads i will not even comment in......DAMMIT! I JUST DID!! oops.....guess that's the KA in me! just kidding, i'm not sure which direction i'm going in in terms of engines.....KA? SR? RB? LS1? 2J? 1ZFZZE? DC? LOL!!! I'M TRIPPIN.

i dont see 20B in that list,and its become a common swap in 240s

[.gauge.]

i dont see 20B in that list,and its become a common swap in 240s

Don't worry, he didnt even mention the CA18 or even the VQ's.

[maxima278]

I can't believe I'm reading a thread titled SR's are gay. First off, its a damn engine. It's what moves the car. Who gives a rats ass what engine someone uses, it's all means to the same end, which is more power! I have respect for KA's but have heard of too many boosted ones blowing up, I love RB's but can't afford one, so what am I left with? The SR... It's quick, reliable and light. Maybe so many people have them because they are a good thing! Is it so rare and avant garde now to have a KA in your car? EVery damn 240sx ever made had one (roughly 225,000 cars over 9 years), how is that new and different? I thought the whole point was to have a relatively cheap, reliable rear wheel drive fun car with lots of potential.

Silly kids and your my-engine-is-better-than-yours attitude.

Stop trying to be cool and just enjoy your cars.