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Ruiner
05-08-2007, 10:45 AM
Okay, let me explain (and educate) something to you people who are doing the HID upgrade in your stock, halogen setups as I have seen a few posts about this:

The halogen reflectors in your cars (or any car with halogen headlights) aren't designed to work with the light source arc produced by HID bulbs. The position of the HID bulb in the reflector assembly may not line up the arc of the HID bulb where the filament was in the original bulb. Plus, some halogens have filaments that are axial or transverse whereas all HID bulbs are the same. The characteristics of the arc light source in an HID bulb are different than a filament, including details like different amounts of light coming from the ends of the filament vs. the middle, and halogen reflectors take advantage of this. Installing an HID bulb negates the original design of the halogen reflector and causes grief for other drivers (and you).

Since HID bulbs don't have light shields on them like most low beam lamps, you end up blinding other drivers even with careful alignment of the headlamp.

HID conversions (and even HID in general) end up throwing a lot of light right near the front of your car rather than up the road where you need it. This extra light up close makes your pupils narrow, which doesn't allow you to see dark things as well up the road. This is especially bad in bad weather situations.

If you are going to throw in an HID kit, make sure to replace the entire reflector setup as well. Don't just do it cheap, do it right.

IBthehate

Sol-Badguy
05-08-2007, 10:47 AM
Which is why I'm glad I bought a car with OEM projector headlights.

Ruiner
05-08-2007, 10:50 AM
Which is why I'm glad I bought a car with OEM projector headlights.

Aye. It just kills me how people are throwing HIDs into halogen/reflector casings.

Sol-Badguy
05-08-2007, 10:52 AM
Yeah, I helped blank cd put his in his Accord. It's bright, the color looks good, but to me it's too blinding when you're facing the car.

Nemesis
05-08-2007, 10:53 AM
This message will fall on deaf ears (no offense DP LOL).


Luckily I have stock STI headlamps designed for HID.

Ruiner
05-08-2007, 10:53 AM
Yeah, I helped blank cd put his in his Accord. It's bright, the color looks good, but to me it's too blinding when you're facing the car.

Exactly! Plus, he still isn't getting the focused-beam output like he could with a real setup.

collins
05-08-2007, 10:54 AM
projectors ftmfw :D

aaronfelipe
05-08-2007, 10:54 AM
Good luck getting through to ricers.
Well said.

Sol-Badguy
05-08-2007, 10:55 AM
projectors ftmfw :D
I was about to say, TEG FTW!! (Avatar.)

..but then I saw the Goat. :(

twinj
05-08-2007, 10:58 AM
To me it depends on the car(headlight). Some of them don't look to bad

Sol-Badguy
05-08-2007, 10:58 AM
To me it depends on the car(headlight). Some of them don't look to bad
It's not about the look. Sure, anything beyond halogen looks a LOT better. We're talking about BLINDING people on the road.

Nemesis
05-08-2007, 11:03 AM
lol I keep laughing at your sig

collins
05-08-2007, 11:04 AM
I was about to say, TEG FTW!! (Avatar.)

..but then I saw the Goat. :( lol, hey whatev! they both have (had) factory projectors :D

Sol-Badguy
05-08-2007, 11:06 AM
lol I keep laughing at your sig
Mine? Hehe. I've decided to look for good GIF's for my sig from now on.


lol, hey whatev! they both have (had) factory projectors :D
Yeah, that's what I mean. Either way, you have projectors.

Ran
05-08-2007, 11:06 AM
JM put an HID kit he got from Nitro in his 200SX. I drove in front of him and I've faced the car to see how it looked. Wasn't blinding or anything, it just looked good. Could some proper headlight re-adjustment keep you from blinding other drivers?

The headlights on my Yaris sit high enough as it is, but my bulbs suck. I plan on just doing some hyperwhite bulbs and calling it a day.

ShooterMcGavin
05-08-2007, 11:07 AM
come on ruiner, u should know ppl really don't give a shit about pissing off other drivers :P

collins
05-08-2007, 11:09 AM
JM put an HID kit he got from Nitro in his 200SX. I drove in front of him and I've faced the car to see how it looked. Wasn't blinding or anything, it just looked good. Could some proper headlight re-adjustment keep you from blinding other drivers?

The headlights on my Yaris sit high enough as it is, but my bulbs suck. I plan on just doing some hyperwhite bulbs and calling it a day. dont lie! that shits hella bright!!

Nemesis
05-08-2007, 11:10 AM
I plan on just doing some hyperwhite bulbs and calling it a day.


Dont exceed the maximum wattage specified in your owners manual or your headlamps will catch on fire LOL Trust me I know this from experience 5 years ago :lmfao:

twinj
05-08-2007, 11:18 AM
I can agree some people do blind the shit out of you with them. I haven't been in front of a hatch that i know for sure that hasn't blinded me.

Ran
05-08-2007, 11:19 AM
Dont exceed the maximum wattage specified in your owners manual or your headlamps will catch on fire LOL Trust me I know this from experience 5 years ago :lmfao:dumb@ss :lmfao: :lmfao:

Ruiner
05-08-2007, 11:20 AM
lol I keep laughing at your sig

Yes, but can you tell me what was said in that scene or at least the gist of the conversation? :)

Ruiner
05-08-2007, 11:21 AM
JM put an HID kit he got from Nitro in his 200SX. I drove in front of him and I've faced the car to see how it looked. Wasn't blinding or anything, it just looked good. Could some proper headlight re-adjustment keep you from blinding other drivers?

The headlights on my Yaris sit high enough as it is, but my bulbs suck. I plan on just doing some hyperwhite bulbs and calling it a day.

They look good, but even if you aren't blinding other drivers, you aren't using the HIDs to their full effect. It's sorta pointless.

ShooterMcGavin
05-08-2007, 11:22 AM
most ppl get hids to look cool or whatever, not always for the "full effect"

Ran
05-08-2007, 11:23 AM
They look good, but even if you aren't blinding other drivers, you aren't using the HIDs to their full effect. It's sorta pointless.Depends on what you're trying to accomplish I guess. I, personally, just hate the yellowish color that my factory headlights have. I figured a good hyperwhite bulb would fix that without spending an stupid amount of money for an HID kit.

Sol-Badguy
05-08-2007, 11:23 AM
Yes, but can you tell me what was said in that scene or at least the gist of the conversation? :)
Wasn't it the Junior Mints episode right where Kramer was telling Jerry he might have dropped a Junior Mint inside him?

Doppelgänger
05-08-2007, 11:28 AM
thank you!!! i swear i was the only who knew this...... silly ricers.

Ruiner
05-08-2007, 11:30 AM
most ppl get hids to look cool or whatever, not always for the "full effect"

That has to be the most stupid reason ever for getting them... :lmfao::lmfao::lmfao:

Ruiner
05-08-2007, 11:33 AM
Depends on what you're trying to accomplish I guess. I, personally, just hate the yellowish color that my factory headlights have. I figured a good hyperwhite bulb would fix that without spending an stupid amount of money for an HID kit.

Which is perfectly fine. I am probably going to pick up some Osram or Sylvania SilverStars to eliminate the yellowish tint, but I wouldn't put HIDs into my car unless I paid for the entire HID casing that is sold in Europe.

Ruiner
05-08-2007, 11:35 AM
Wasn't it the Junior Mints episode right where Kramer was telling Jerry he might have dropped a Junior Mint inside him?

No, it's in the episode "The Blood" where Jerry gets a transfusion from Kramer. :lmfao::lmfao::lmfao:

"You've got three pints of Kramer in you, buddy!" - Kramer

That's where Jerrry screams. :)

Ruiner
05-08-2007, 11:37 AM
thank you!!! i swear i was the only who knew this...... silly ricers.

Man, I almost always see you in the mornings around my work (Medlock, Technology Park, South Berkley Lake, etc). Anytime you see a white Pathfinder during that time, look for the RUINER plate. ;)

Nitro
05-08-2007, 11:40 AM
interesting thread.........

Ruiner
05-08-2007, 11:44 AM
interesting thread.........

Well, do you agree or disagree with the below statement?

The halogen reflectors in your cars (or any car with halogen headlights) aren't designed to work with the light source arc produced by HID bulbs. The position of the HID bulb in the reflector assembly may not line up the arc of the HID bulb where the filament was in the original bulb. Plus, some halogens have filaments that are axial or transverse whereas all HID bulbs are the same. The characteristics of the arc light source in an HID bulb are different than a filament, including details like different amounts of light coming from the ends of the filament vs. the middle, and halogen reflectors take advantage of this. Installing an HID bulb both negates the original design of the halogen reflector and causes grief for other drivers (and you).

Nitro
05-08-2007, 11:54 AM
Well, do you agree or disagree with the below statement?

The halogen reflectors in your cars (or any car with halogen headlights) aren't designed to work with the light source arc produced by HID bulbs. The position of the HID bulb in the reflector assembly may not line up the arc of the HID bulb where the filament was in the original bulb. Plus, some halogens have filaments that are axial or transverse whereas all HID bulbs are the same. The characteristics of the arc light source in an HID bulb are different than a filament, including details like different amounts of light coming from the ends of the filament vs. the middle, and halogen reflectors take advantage of this. Installing an HID bulb both negates the original design of the halogen reflector and causes grief for other drivers (and you).



hence my making this thread Brandon.

http://www.importatlanta.com/forums/showthread.php?t=115479

Ruiner
05-08-2007, 11:56 AM
hence my making this thread Brandon.

http://www.importatlanta.com/forums/showthread.php?t=115479

Oh, very nice. :goodjob:

CopyRight
05-08-2007, 12:02 PM
I put hid's in everything I own...why? just to piss people off and blind them....I think it's fun.

Sol-Badguy
05-08-2007, 12:10 PM
No, it's in the episode "The Blood" where Jerry gets a transfusion from Kramer.

"You've got three pints of Kramer in you, buddy!" - Kramer

That's where Jerrry screams.
Yeah, I remember now.

Reps for Seinfeld!!

Nitro
05-08-2007, 12:13 PM
I put hid's in everything I own...why? just to piss people off and blind them....I think it's fun.



lol :crazy:

CopyRight
05-08-2007, 12:16 PM
lol :crazy:


oh yeah man, you wouldnt believe! I got them on my mtn bike, my road bike, my jeep, even my running shoes!

I was actually gonna contact you and see if you could put a set on my nephew's new f150 power wheel, I want him to blind the crap out of the bitch next door with the barbie vette...she's trying to chump out my nephew and he isnt having that

Sol-Badguy
05-08-2007, 12:18 PM
I put hid's in everything I own...why? just to piss people off and blind them....I think it's fun.
..? :thinking::thinking:

Crazy Asian
05-08-2007, 02:02 PM
Also sometime it could cause serious damage. Alot of cars with projectors have ballast which as you know control the power outage of the HID. Well the manufactures seal these ballast with sillicon or plastic shells. Well car's who dont have HID and just stick these in there usually forget one thing. Is to seal the freaking ballast up or something....because low and behold water gets into them they start to fry and maybe catch your engine on fire before. Someone on Preludeonline forgot to seal his ballast up and water proof it and while he was driving it started to rain bad and water seeped into his hood....and short circuted his headlamps and BAM it was gone and smoke started to arise.

Sol-Badguy
05-08-2007, 04:12 PM
Also sometime it could cause serious damage. Alot of cars with projectors have ballast which as you know control the power outage of the HID. Well the manufactures seal these ballast with sillicon or plastic shells. Well car's who dont have HID and just stick these in there usually forget one thing. Is to seal the freaking ballast up or something....because low and behold water gets into them they start to fry and maybe catch your engine on fire before. Someone on Preludeonline forgot to seal his ballast up and water proof it and while he was driving it started to rain bad and water seeped into his hood....and short circuted his headlamps and BAM it was gone and smoke started to arise.
FUCK!

apex
05-08-2007, 05:26 PM
shut the f up you crybaby.....like you can change the world of hid's w/ this one post you moron. squint and take it like a man.

JITB
05-08-2007, 05:30 PM
i put hids in my halogen lamps because it looks good..

yeahright
05-08-2007, 05:34 PM
shut the f up you crybaby.....like you can change the world of hid's w/ this one post you moron. squint and take it like a man.

taking this a little too personal? must be a ricer that wants to look cool.

ueyedgr8tness
05-08-2007, 05:43 PM
shut the f up you crybaby.....like you can change the world of hid's w/ this one post you moron. squint and take it like a man.


:goodjob: Yes sir

©hris
05-08-2007, 05:53 PM
im gonna retrofit my stock housing into projectors.

©hris
05-08-2007, 05:53 PM
http://www.theretrofitsource.com/DIY.html <------ thats how

Sol-Badguy
05-08-2007, 06:10 PM
shut the f up you crybaby.....like you can change the world of hid's w/ this one post you moron. squint and take it like a man.
Ghey.

lsxtreme
05-08-2007, 07:49 PM
i put HIDS on my vehilces because for some reason i can see better in the dark.. especially when i'm out and about in athens/boondarks.. where theres no city lights.. and to avoid deers.. :) but not to blind anyone.. good thread though.. but it's not going to change the HID game.. :)

jon84
05-08-2007, 07:58 PM
im not the one getten blinded so i could really care less . i dont think anyone cares.did u go to school for lighting or are u a safty inspector:screwy:

Total_Blender
05-08-2007, 08:55 PM
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid103/p2eb228862159d585cc4750e91bfb97c2/f9a16a84.jpg

http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e99/durriej/HID-029-1.jpg


http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid87/pfde7a3b82eb981d9b8d898b3f5ec5217/fa99725e.jpg

:police: People who do this kind of crap should have their licenses suspended for life. Then they should be beaten with billy clubs. altezza taillights too, those are equally as bad.

jon84
05-08-2007, 09:06 PM
u must have lots of time on ur hands:goodjob:

81911SC
05-08-2007, 10:00 PM
im not the one getten blinded so i could really care less . i dont think anyone cares.did u go to school for lighting or are u a safty inspector:screwy:
Ruiner is a lot smarter then you realize. Ruiner>You

328ijunkie
05-08-2007, 10:04 PM
Projectors ftw.

Capt._Ron
05-08-2007, 10:06 PM
Honestly i think that something like sylvania silverstars work great, look great, wont burn out your harness, and last a long time.

quickdodge®
05-08-2007, 10:09 PM
http://www.theretrofitsource.com/DIY.html <------ thats how

I never saw anyone ask you how. Later, QD.

ahmonrah
05-09-2007, 01:47 AM
Originally Posted by jon84
im not the one getten blinded so i could really care less . i dont think anyone cares.did u go to school for lighting or are u a safty inspector:screwy:



Ruiner is a lot smarter then you realize. Ruiner>You


he's an idiot, he doesnt realize that yet. hell this noob prolly hasnt even gotten his ballz blown yet.

ruiner>90's babies

ahmonrah
05-09-2007, 01:48 AM
and yeah,
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid87/pfde7a3b82eb981d9b8d898b3f5ec5217/fa99725e.jpg
this looks like a portal to the spirit world, not headlights.....fuck that shit.

81911SC
05-09-2007, 01:53 AM
he's an idiot, he doesnt realize that yet. hell this noob prolly hasnt even gotten his ballz blown yet.

ruiner>90's babies
No joke. This is the same kid who was saying he didnt have to put pics for his seats for sale for $50. Dumbass.

ahmonrah
05-09-2007, 02:21 AM
oh and i hope that dumb ass thread for "seats" got locked!!
i havent been on here as much lately.

.blank cd
05-09-2007, 02:30 AM
Exactly! Plus, he still isn't getting the focused-beam output like he could with a real setup.

Since then my setup has been meticulously adjusted. I get a pretty good focus ahead of me and some decent cut off for a reflector style housing. Only problem I have is on one side the bulb housing is busted so the bulb itself doesnt seat right. The bulb on the other side is perfect and hardly even glares when you look dead on into it. The ones that get scattered all over the place and blind people are the ones who have sealed beam headlights and those whos plastic outer lens is patterned to break up the halogen lights(i.e. 92+ Civics, crx's etc.). I dont have that problem since mine is totally clear
http://www.importatlanta.com/upload/files/171/Photo0005edit.JPG
and the low beam side also has the sheild to cover the bulb itself.

as for the kid who's HID ballast burnt up and caught his engine on fire, that is a worst case scenario. Alot of kits have a grommet on the end of all of the connectors that seals out water and moisture. If you're still afraid, wrap the connections up w/ some plastic or heatshrink turbing or somethin

jon84
05-09-2007, 06:38 AM
oh and i hope that dumb ass thread for "seats" got locked!!
i havent been on here as much lately.i love your 240

Nomad!
05-09-2007, 09:58 AM
Projectors are on the way! Retrofit anyone? :goodjob:

©hris
05-09-2007, 11:20 AM
retrofit ftw!!!

quickdodge®
05-09-2007, 11:22 AM
Retrofit's are high caliber items to own. Take it from the people who know high caliber. Later, QD.

Ruiner
05-09-2007, 11:26 AM
Wow, I just love the hate...

CopyRight
05-09-2007, 11:47 AM
Wow, I just love the hate...


you should, you come off so self righteous....

let me explain something to you....this is the internet and you making a 3 page thread on proper english and complaining on how people misspell things is retarded...because it will make a huge difference in the world if all of IA jumps on and begins posting and typing in proper english in the whoreslounge.

hid's in stock housings....wow, something else to complain about? You live in a "tuners" market and there are people who will do things that will not fit your way of life or you deem fit. Get over it...you in no shape or form will persuade people to change their setups...you gonna pay for it? didn't think so...so my advice to you is, squint your eyes when you see really bright headlights and start posting over at www.properenglish.com and there you can volunteer your services to those who want it.

©hris
05-09-2007, 12:08 PM
you should, you come off so self righteous....

let me explain something to you....this is the internet and you making a 3 page thread on proper english and complaining on how people misspell things is retarded...because it will make a huge difference in the world if all of IA jumps on and begins posting and typing in proper english in the whoreslounge.

hid's in stock housings....wow, something else to complain about? You live in a "tuners" market and there are people who will do things that will not fit your way of life or you deem fit. Get over it...you in no shape or form will persuade people to change their setups...you gonna pay for it? didn't think so...so my advice to you is, squint your eyes when you see really bright headlights and start posting over at www.properenglish.com and there you can volunteer your services to those who want it.



+1 :cheers:

quickdodge®
05-09-2007, 12:15 PM
.this is the internet and you making a 3 page thread on proper english and complaining on how people misspell things is retarded.

In his defense, it only got to three pages because of responses. Not because his initial post was three pages, lolol. And that, like a lot of other posts, was just a rant. He wasn't ordering people to start typing like they were Webster himself. I agreed with his rant, but more on to the level of the idiots that type so horribly on here that you literally have to hire an Egyptian to see if he could decipher the code. But it's just like ranting about your job or the traffic or whatever.


in a "tuners" market and there are people who will do things that will not fit your way of life or you deem fit.

Isn't that the truth.


.so my advice to you is, squint your eyes when you see really bright headlights

I just throw my brights back on at them. Lolol. Leave them on until I pass them or until I get right up on them and then turn the brights off so they'll know I had them on for them. Lolol, again. Later, QD.

quickdodge®
05-09-2007, 12:17 PM
I rock!

I forgot, +18 for you.


+1 :cheers:

I forgot, -18 for you when I can. Later, QD.

Kyle
05-09-2007, 12:22 PM
Okay, let me explain (and educate) something to you people who are doing the HID upgrade in your stock, halogen setups as I have seen a few posts about this:

The halogen reflectors in your cars (or any car with halogen headlights) aren't designed to work with the light source arc produced by HID bulbs. The position of the HID bulb in the reflector assembly may not line up the arc of the HID bulb where the filament was in the original bulb. Plus, some halogens have filaments that are axial or transverse whereas all HID bulbs are the same. The characteristics of the arc light source in an HID bulb are different than a filament, including details like different amounts of light coming from the ends of the filament vs. the middle, and halogen reflectors take advantage of this. Installing an HID bulb negates the original design of the halogen reflector and causes grief for other drivers (and you).

Since HID bulbs don't have light shields on them like most low beam lamps, you end up blinding other drivers even with careful alignment of the headlamp.

HID conversions (and even HID in general) end up throwing a lot of light right near the front of your car rather than up the road where you need it. This extra light up close makes your pupils narrow, which doesn't allow you to see dark things as well up the road. This is especially bad in bad weather situations.

If you are going to throw in an HID kit, make sure to replace the entire reflector setup as well. Don't just do it cheap, do it right.

IBthehate
I never even considered that. :goodjob:

CRX3R
05-09-2007, 03:34 PM
Okay, let me explain (and educate) something to you people who are doing the HID upgrade in your stock, halogen setups as I have seen a few posts about this:

The halogen reflectors in your cars (or any car with halogen headlights) aren't designed to work with the light source arc produced by HID bulbs. The position of the HID bulb in the reflector assembly may not line up the arc of the HID bulb where the filament was in the original bulb. Plus, some halogens have filaments that are axial or transverse whereas all HID bulbs are the same. The characteristics of the arc light source in an HID bulb are different than a filament, including details like different amounts of light coming from the ends of the filament vs. the middle, and halogen reflectors take advantage of this. Installing an HID bulb negates the original design of the halogen reflector and causes grief for other drivers (and you).

Since HID bulbs don't have light shields on them like most low beam lamps, you end up blinding other drivers even with careful alignment of the headlamp.

HID conversions (and even HID in general) end up throwing a lot of light right near the front of your car rather than up the road where you need it. This extra light up close makes your pupils narrow, which doesn't allow you to see dark things as well up the road. This is especially bad in bad weather situations.

If you are going to throw in an HID kit, make sure to replace the entire reflector setup as well. Don't just do it cheap, do it right.

IBthehate




I feel you.... if your going to do it make it look good..http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w141/Big_ILL_Da_Great/S2010035-1.jpg

Maniaç
05-09-2007, 04:08 PM
my car has projectors with aftermarket HIDs.. i love the combo

JITB
05-09-2007, 05:28 PM
a year and a half ago everyone was talkin about projectors being rice.... u "tuners" are like a herd of sheep..

CopyRight
05-09-2007, 05:37 PM
a year and a half ago everyone was talkin about projectors being rice.... u "tuners" are like a herd of sheep..


get off your soap box...you ever had an intake system or a fart can? such a sheep you are....

funny how you come in here and use quotes on a term like tuner....painting stock wheels black...yeah, you are the first and only to ever do that...sheep...

JITB
05-09-2007, 05:40 PM
get off your soap box...you ever had an intake system or a fart can? such a sheep you are....

funny how you come in here and use quotes on a term like tuner....painting stock wheels black...yeah, you are the first and only to ever do that...sheep...


what? that picture is 2 1/2 years old...

intake system? fart can? what?? its called a muffler, which was connected to my 2.5" exhaust, which was connected to my Y-pipe, which was connected to my "manifoldS ...that connected to the motor. i painted my wheels cuz i was broke.. and makin 80$ a week...

Ruiner
05-09-2007, 05:52 PM
:lmfao: Now I have seen it all...


you should, you come off so self righteous....

let me explain something to you....this is the internet and you making a 3 page thread on proper english and complaining on how people misspell things is retarded...because it will make a huge difference in the world if all of IA jumps on and begins posting and typing in proper english in the whoreslounge.

hid's in stock housings....wow, something else to complain about? You live in a "tuners" market and there are people who will do things that will not fit your way of life or you deem fit. Get over it...you in no shape or form will persuade people to change their setups...you gonna pay for it? didn't think so...so my advice to you is, squint your eyes when you see really bright headlights and start posting over at www.properenglish.com (http://www.properenglish.com) and there you can volunteer your services to those who want it.

CopyRight
05-09-2007, 05:56 PM
:lmfao: Now I have seen it all...


good...maybe you will stop complaining about things you cannot control.

CopyRight
05-09-2007, 05:59 PM
what? that picture is 2 1/2 years old...

intake system? fart can? what?? its called a muffler, which was connected to my 2.5" exhaust, which was connected to my Y-pipe, which was connected to my "manifoldS ...that connected to the motor. i painted my wheels cuz i was broke.. and makin 80$ a week...



point being, you were calling "tuners" sheep because of how quickly opinnions change of products....that's just the way the world works...when the import scene was first here in GA, it was all about underbody neons, ugly bodykits and huge ass wings....

it's not so much that people are sheep, they just have to adapt with the times

Ruiner
05-09-2007, 06:00 PM
good...maybe you will stop complaining about things you cannot control.

I wasn't really complaining so much as I was trying to show people the folly of their ways. HIDs are a fad that have gotten out of control. To use them in a reflector housing is just silly and I explained why.

quickdodge®
05-09-2007, 06:03 PM
point being, you were calling "tuners" sheep because of how quickly opinnions change of products....that's just the way the world works...when the import scene was first here in GA, it was all about underbody neons, ugly bodykits and huge ass wings....

it's not so much that people are sheep, they just have to adapt with the times

I see both sides of this, but I think what Joseph is saying is that the same things people called rice a year ago are the things they are buying now because, all of a sudden, it has become the cool item. Later, QD.

Fast Shadow
05-09-2007, 06:04 PM
My eyes are still burning from a Tiburon with a HID kit that came toward me on the street. And it was months ago. The headlights were absolutely blinding.

CopyRight
05-09-2007, 06:09 PM
I wasn't really complaining so much as I was trying to show people the folly of their ways. HIDs are a fad that have gotten out of control. To use them in a reflector housing is just silly and I explained why.


some people do it for the cool blue effect, some do it as it brightens the road, granted it's not the full potential of the hid's...but it will still be brighter than any halogen bulb you can get. I dont really think it's a fad, because many of the newer vehicles sold today in the midrange to higher have the hid's from the factory and now that hid kits are becoming easier to obtain and cheaper... you are only going to see them more and more in halogen housings...and there's not a thing that any of us can do about it...it's the nature of the beast

JITB
05-09-2007, 06:23 PM
point being, you were calling "tuners" sheep because of how quickly opinnions change of products....that's just the way the world works...when the import scene was first here in GA, it was all about underbody neons, ugly bodykits and huge ass wings....

it's not so much that people are sheep, they just have to adapt with the times

adapt with the times my ass, thats sheep talk.. You do what u like to do regardless of whats cool and whats not cool. just imagine if everyone drove around lowered hatches with 2000$ 20 year old 15" rims, with 900$ tires on their 110hp cars. i guesss i think different i pride myself in driving other cars alot of folks dont drive, and do what i want to it. non of my cars have look liked anyone elses

Ruiner
05-09-2007, 06:37 PM
some people do it for the cool blue effect, some do it as it brightens the road, granted it's not the full potential of the hid's...but it will still be brighter than any halogen bulb you can get. I dont really think it's a fad, because many of the newer vehicles sold today in the midrange to higher have the hid's from the factory and now that hid kits are becoming easier to obtain and cheaper... you are only going to see them more and more in halogen housings...and there's not a thing that any of us can do about it...it's the nature of the beast

No no, it isn't a fad in terms of OEM. It is a fad for people that are wanting a cheaper way to put in HIDs, though. However, you did bring up a good point: you are seeing them in many midrange to higher priced vehicles.

Yes, people PAY to get the proper setup, not just some half-assed setup that displays HIDs on reflector housings. They pay for it when they buy the car that has it OEM. Bingo, you got it. If you are going to do the conversion, do the full conversion and don't do it half-assed. That is my point...

Lucky DAWG
05-09-2007, 06:53 PM
i feel ya Ruiner.

even though i have a projector setup in my car with a cut off. Which i'm pretty sure is curteous of other drivers, the cut off could be better... thats why i'm going to throw in a TSX projector from a newer model just to tweak it to be that little bit better.

Its more just to look cool though rather then for safety of other drivers and myself, the cut off is incredible for a 1996 on my car... for a 1996 i repeat

.blank cd
05-09-2007, 07:00 PM
*edit* If you are going to lie and fuck with a mod, I would suggest leaving me out of it. - Ruiner

Lucky DAWG
05-09-2007, 07:02 PM
conspiracy?
dun dun dun

greg farris is now an enemy of IA

OaTmeaL
05-12-2007, 02:03 AM
This message will fall on deaf ears (no offense DP LOL).


Luckily I have stock STI headlamps designed for HID.

Damn man! You have an STi now... Nice!

_Christian_
05-12-2007, 02:16 AM
thanks ruiner. i hate dumbasses who do this. good post, even if your post keeps only one less rice boy from glaring the fuck out of other drivers.

kyx
05-12-2007, 02:37 AM
when you do it... do it right..! here's my retro :D

http://img407.imageshack.us/img407/4195/imgp2509uz5.jpg
http://img339.imageshack.us/img339/6589/imgp2517fg6.jpg
http://img407.imageshack.us/img407/4349/imgp2510ue8.jpg

if anyone is wondering I have tsx projectors + 6000k phillips bulbs :X

OneSlow5pt0
05-12-2007, 02:46 AM
i hate those lights,they blind me when im meeting them...

_Christian_
05-12-2007, 02:50 AM
when you do it... do it right..! here's my retro :D

http://img407.imageshack.us/img407/4195/imgp2509uz5.jpg
http://img339.imageshack.us/img339/6589/imgp2517fg6.jpg
http://img407.imageshack.us/img407/4349/imgp2510ue8.jpg

if anyone is wondering I have tsx projectors + 6000k phillips bulbs :X
nice. good job on the retrofit.:goodjob: i have a 5th gen prelude. i was about to do the retrofit, but she got wrecked.:cry:

.blank cd
05-12-2007, 02:58 AM
*edit* If you are going to lie and fuck with a mod, I would suggest leaving me out of it. - Ruiner

Whats the matter, cant take a joke? hehehe

I can see what your gonna do next....do it...DO IT!!!!!

Total_Blender
05-13-2007, 04:32 PM
..when the import scene was first here in GA, it was all about underbody neons, ugly bodykits and huge ass wings....


You mean its not anymore? I better go take the neons, the "combat" bodykit, and the wing off of my Integra so I can fit in and be cool on IA. Are "Type R" badges still cool, or not?:???:

People should be getting pulled over and jailed for things like this. Its not that we can't stop people from doing stupid stuff like this, the DOT and the cops should be stopping people who are doing this. You are making it more likely both for you and other drivers to be in an accident when you have blinding/colored lights.

I really think we should have vehicle inspections to make sure that every vehicle has their lights/signals/mirrors up to spec. Its not just the ricers with HID's, its the people who have missing/broken/loose headlights and missing/broken turn signals as well. :2up: And all the idiots driving around without rear-view mirrors because their shit came unglued:lmfao:

1SICKLEX
05-13-2007, 06:42 PM
Okay, let me explain (and educate) something to you people who are doing the HID upgrade in your stock, halogen setups as I have seen a few posts about this:

The halogen reflectors in your cars (or any car with halogen headlights) aren't designed to work with the light source arc produced by HID bulbs. The position of the HID bulb in the reflector assembly may not line up the arc of the HID bulb where the filament was in the original bulb. Plus, some halogens have filaments that are axial or transverse whereas all HID bulbs are the same. The characteristics of the arc light source in an HID bulb are different than a filament, including details like different amounts of light coming from the ends of the filament vs. the middle, and halogen reflectors take advantage of this. Installing an HID bulb negates the original design of the halogen reflector and causes grief for other drivers (and you).

Since HID bulbs don't have light shields on them like most low beam lamps, you end up blinding other drivers even with careful alignment of the headlamp.

HID conversions (and even HID in general) end up throwing a lot of light right near the front of your car rather than up the road where you need it. This extra light up close makes your pupils narrow, which doesn't allow you to see dark things as well up the road. This is especially bad in bad weather situations.

If you are going to throw in an HID kit, make sure to replace the entire reflector setup as well. Don't just do it cheap, do it right.

IBthehate
Great post.
Some of it too is shops, selling the kits, not informing people you need to do a HID conversion and not just add a HID kit. A lot of people are not informed and most simply refuse to do the research.

Extrememustang
05-13-2007, 07:09 PM
Hmm that reminds me, I had a motorsysle and I put xenons in it, then the wire to the switch for low beam and high beams went out so I had high beams all the time. Poor oncoming traffic

Chuckster
05-13-2007, 07:20 PM
Okay, let me explain (and educate) something to you people who are doing the HID upgrade in your stock, halogen setups as I have seen a few posts about this:

The halogen reflectors in your cars (or any car with halogen headlights) aren't designed to work with the light source arc produced by HID bulbs. The position of the HID bulb in the reflector assembly may not line up the arc of the HID bulb where the filament was in the original bulb. Plus, some halogens have filaments that are axial or transverse whereas all HID bulbs are the same. The characteristics of the arc light source in an HID bulb are different than a filament, including details like different amounts of light coming from the ends of the filament vs. the middle, and halogen reflectors take advantage of this. Installing an HID bulb negates the original design of the halogen reflector and causes grief for other drivers (and you).

Since HID bulbs don't have light shields on them like most low beam lamps, you end up blinding other drivers even with careful alignment of the headlamp.

HID conversions (and even HID in general) end up throwing a lot of light right near the front of your car rather than up the road where you need it. This extra light up close makes your pupils narrow, which doesn't allow you to see dark things as well up the road. This is especially bad in bad weather situations.

If you are going to throw in an HID kit, make sure to replace the entire reflector setup as well. Don't just do it cheap, do it right.

IBthehate

I try telling people this, but they just dont listen to me. Which i can understand b/c i dont listen to me either. But yea everyone keeps telling me to buy HIDs. Keep telling them not untill i get some projector headlights.

Nitro
05-13-2007, 08:44 PM
conspiracy?
dun dun dun

greg farris is now an enemy of IA



:umno: :YAWNS:

.blank cd
05-13-2007, 10:22 PM
nitro u shoulda saw what i posted above that. was quite funny. ruiner edited it out tho

Nitro
05-13-2007, 10:32 PM
nitro u shoulda saw what i posted above that. was quite funny. ruiner edited it out tho



u mean this?.......lol

Last edited by Ruiner : 05-09-2007 at 10:18 PM.

.blank cd
05-13-2007, 10:40 PM
pm'ed cause it would just get edited here again

quickdodge®
05-13-2007, 10:42 PM
Nitro. I'm going to have to ask you not to step keyboard into this thread again. Thanks. Later, QD.

Ruiner
05-14-2007, 09:38 AM
u mean this?.......lol

Last edited by Ruiner : 05-09-2007 at 10:18 PM.

What's he is trying to say is that he made up a bullshit quote (from me) and posted it trying to be funny. Saying that I was buying HIDs and such. You know, real Jr. High shit and whatnot.

Rican219
05-14-2007, 09:56 AM
LOL @ this thread.

Sol-Badguy
05-14-2007, 11:19 AM
LIRL @ your DAMN SIGNATURE!!

Nitro
05-14-2007, 12:19 PM
:yes:




Nitro. I'm going to have to ask you not to step keyboard into this thread again. Thanks. Later, QD.

JDMmuscle
05-14-2007, 12:25 PM
hahahahahahaha

oh shit i needed that nitro +1 hahaha
:lmfao::lmfao::lmfao::lmfao::lmfao:

quickdodge®
05-14-2007, 12:38 PM
:yes:

Later, QD.

speedminded
05-14-2007, 01:16 PM
some people do it for the cool blue effect, some do it as it brightens the road, granted it's not the full potential of the hid's...but it will still be brighter than any halogen bulb you can get. I dont really think it's a fad, because many of the newer vehicles sold today in the midrange to higher have the hid's from the factory and now that hid kits are becoming easier to obtain and cheaper... you are only going to see them more and more in halogen housings...and there's not a thing that any of us can do about it...it's the nature of the beastAftermarket HID kits are illegal to install and use on public roads in the United States and as of 8/15/2003 the sale of aftermarket HID kits is punishible up to $5,000 for EACH offense.

The "nature of the beast" isn't really a fad, its a phase. Just like cheap springs vs. coil-over dampeners...eventually, hopefully, each person will grow out of it. Other than physical appearance there is no benefit of springs on stock shocks or an HID bulb in a halogen housing. For those that have them, I'd love be able to pull out the 1,000,000 candle power spotlight and put it through their windshield.

As for the proper English, why not make an attempt at being literate? I'm not going to look down on anyone for it but for the amount of time a majority of the daily members are on here the improper use of words, spelling, etc. will carry over to everyday and/or professional life. I'll bet 75% of the members on here couldn't even write a resume without mistakes. I hated English and linguistics, poems, etc...I could care less what the writer was thinking when he/she wrote something but then I dated a hot English student teacher. It didn't inspire me to be a writer and she hated it when I corrected myself: AIM, yahoo, etc. but I always did anyways. Did I have to, no...did it help me in the long run and improve my literacy, yeah. Did it help in getting some from a 24 year old hottie when I was 18, maybe ;)

.blank cd
05-14-2007, 05:34 PM
What's he is trying to say is that he made up a bullshit quote (from me) and posted it trying to be funny. Saying that I was buying HIDs and such. You know, real Jr. High shit and whatnot.

whatever dude. you're just mad cause you giggled inside and dont want anyone to see a weaker side of you that actually has a sense of humor

Breakin down your inner funny FTW

nightracer
05-14-2007, 08:08 PM
Okay, let me explain (and educate) something to you people who are doing the HID upgrade in your stock, halogen setups as I have seen a few posts about this:

The halogen reflectors in your cars (or any car with halogen headlights) aren't designed to work with the light source arc produced by HID bulbs. The position of the HID bulb in the reflector assembly may not line up the arc of the HID bulb where the filament was in the original bulb. Plus, some halogens have filaments that are axial or transverse whereas all HID bulbs are the same. The characteristics of the arc light source in an HID bulb are different than a filament, including details like different amounts of light coming from the ends of the filament vs. the middle, and halogen reflectors take advantage of this. Installing an HID bulb negates the original design of the halogen reflector and causes grief for other drivers (and you).

Since HID bulbs don't have light shields on them like most low beam lamps, you end up blinding other drivers even with careful alignment of the headlamp.

HID conversions (and even HID in general) end up throwing a lot of light right near the front of your car rather than up the road where you need it. This extra light up close makes your pupils narrow, which doesn't allow you to see dark things as well up the road. This is especially bad in bad weather situations.

If you are going to throw in an HID kit, make sure to replace the entire reflector setup as well. Don't just do it cheap, do it right.

IBthehate
Did your Fiance make your sell Porsche?

yerrow
05-15-2007, 08:00 AM
english?

Ruiner
05-15-2007, 09:55 AM
Did your Fiance make your sell Porsche?

No, why do you ask? She actually misses the car.

nightracer
05-15-2007, 04:23 PM
No, why do you ask? She actually misses the car.
Just wondering what happened to it. What is your next super car?