Yeah, fear this too!

[Init2winit]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FfjVSBh8qPM

[khan351]

:eek: :goodjob:

[198plus]

Smart people will :cheers:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FfjVSBh8qPM

[1civic]

We will be at the track (AL) Sat.. All we got is a 281ci 2v if your looking for a run.... ;) Only runs at the Track though... :goodjob:

[Decker1.8t]

mike's sounds meaner.

[Big J]

Not to be an ass but the other car is way cooler...................... it just takes a lot more to build what they did........... fox bodies are a dime a dozen

[Init2winit]

Not to be an ass but the other car is way cooler...................... it just takes a lot more to build what they did........... fox bodies are a dime a dozenThats because they look good. You don't see 240s because they are ugly as a dogs ass with shit hanging out of it.

[TIGERJC]

Thats because they look good. You don't see 240s because they are ugly as a dogs ass with shit hanging out of it.
yea you tell them, Fox body FTW :goodjob:

[Vteckidd]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FfjVSBh8qPM
mildly impressed :D

soundsgood

[GGPIS3]

cammin like a mofo.... bluh..bluhbluh.....bluh....bluh...bluhbluhbluh.. bluh

[hydroshutter]

Lopey Cam FTW!

[GangstaCoupe]

I though your junk was blown up, already got the new setup on?

[Init2winit]

I though your junk was blown up, already got the new setup on?All I did was burnt a piston. I don't like my crap sitting around collecting dust.:goodjob:

[Big J]

Thats because they look good.

Oh, you're right, got me

[Init2winit]

And another.......http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gwyPmERT7Y4

[jankestang]

thank God for another car that runs in the 5's
you wouldn't happen to know Casey Allen would ya?

[Khalifa247]

And another.......http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gwyPmERT7Y4

:goodjob: that one was cool

[NevrNufTorq]

:goodjob: that one was cool

:stupid: the 2nd one was great!!

[e36brent]

Nice!! :goodjob:

[99SI]

I've been trying to get some of these kills forum guys out to Eatonton for the longest time now.

[Capt._Ron]

im thinking that fox would own the 2J 240 from a dig but from a roll i would probably stick with the 2J just because fox bodies can turn the fastest et's with the slowest trap speeds ive ever seen ha ha .

[crafty]

LOL it's amasing how a high LSA on that cam calms the lope down... huh eric.. ha ha So How about my powerglide parts... get those together yet? call me and let me know.. I just have to ask... Why didn't you show the actually engine in that video.. Oh wait because you can't see the engine due to the 18 massive selniods... LOL

[crafty]

im thinking that fox would own the 2J 240 from a dig but from a roll i would probably stick with the 2J just because fox bodies can turn the fastest et's with the slowest trap speeds ive ever seen ha ha .

LOL I totally disagree.. Almost every 2j is turboed most fox's aren't. So to give a fair race a turbo 2j vs a turbo fox.. the outcome is a givin reguardless the race...

[Vteckidd]

its hard to beat a fox body with the bottle.

Regardless of what a 2J can make, V8s have TORQUE

[1civic]

its hard to beat a fox body with the bottle.

Regardless of what a 2J can make, V8s have TORQUE


Very True and its alot cheaper too... :goodjob:

[khan351]

:werd:

[1civic]

:werd:


Whats Werd.... :thinking:

[TIGERJC]

Whats Werd.... :thinking:
its "WORD"

[1civic]

its "WORD"


:blah: ... I know that... :tongue1:

[TIGERJC]

:blah: ... I know that... :tongue1:
:crazy:

[Capt._Ron]

LOL I totally disagree.. Almost every 2j is turboed most fox's aren't. So to give a fair race a turbo 2j vs a turbo fox.. the outcome is a givin reguardless the race...

True very few foxes are tuboed but they foxed also have at least 2 more liters of displacement over the 2j. What im saying is that foxes are able to run quick times with low trap speeds because the are torquey and get of the line. Supras dont get off the line for shit and I imagine that a 240 with a 2j would probably be about the same. That being the case a fox that could be a 2j in the quarter might not be able to get the 2j from a roll because the 2j do have turbos and pull strong on the top end once the turbo/turbos are spooled.

[1civic]

True very few foxes are tuboed but they foxed also have at least 2 more liters of displacement over the 2j. What im saying is that foxes are able to run quick times with low trap speeds because the are torquey and get of the line. Supras dont get off the line for shit and I imagine that a 240 with a 2j would probably be about the same. That being the case a fox that could be a 2j in the quarter might not be able to get the 2j from a roll because the 2j do have turbos and pull strong on the top end once the turbo/turbos are spooled.

Very Un-True... :goodjob: .. All I have to say Is Tim Lynch.. If you don't know this name look it up.. :yes: .. ;)

[Z U L8R]

wheelies > turbo lag

[Capt._Ron]

Very Un-True... :goodjob: .. All I have to say Is Tim Lynch.. If you don't know this name look it up.. :yes: .. ;)

How many twin turbo foxes do you see. Ok yes if you turbo a fox it will go fast DEE DU DEE its a fairly large motor with forced induction they all go fast.
Your average weekend racer does not have a twin turbo fox. I dont think the one in the video is twin turboed either. A mildly built 5.0 does not excel on the track because of its top end power period. 2j that can get of the line however will run like 13's at 130 just ask allen.

[NevrNufTorq]

True very few foxes are tuboed but they foxed also have at least 2 more liters of displacement over the 2j. What im saying is that foxes are able to run quick times with low trap speeds because the are torquey and get of the line. Supras dont get off the line for shit and I imagine that a 240 with a 2j would probably be about the same. That being the case a fox that could be a 2j in the quarter might not be able to get the 2j from a roll because the 2j do have turbos and pull strong on the top end once the turbo/turbos are spooled.

not all supras are slow off the line but mine is!!! the reason most are pigs off the line is b/c of a thing called power-to-weight ratio. that's why dave puts 2j's in 240's. simple math, my supra weighs 3550 lbs. dave's car weighs less say roughly a 1000 lbs less w/o telling the exact #. guys who drag know what that means. it's called power off the line b/c it takes less torque to get the weight off the line so the hp can take over down the track!! oh, and the main reason most fox's are able to launch so hard actually has nothing to do with the power they make, it's called suspension. there is no car that i know of that you can find more go fast suspension parts for than a mustang. every manufacturer is making them b/c there are so many mustangs on the road it is more than profitable to do so. i can take my stang, put 500 whp in it and go 12's or i can go mid 10's in it all depending on one thing!! SUSPENISON!! dont believe me, ask the stang guys on here or call jeff down at prospeed and ask him how fast his car went last weekend at steele and how much power he has. no bashing intended at all, just facts and as always my :2cents: :D

[TIGERJC]

SUPRAS can go fast in the right hands

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9rJI3-4aq-Y

stock long block with a 71 mm turbo and NO NOS. O its full factory weight too

Badass driver + amazing tune + trd lsd = 9.56 @ 144

[1civic]

How many twin turbo foxes do you see. Ok yes if you turbo a fox it will go fast DEE DU DEE its a fairly large motor with forced induction they all go fast.
Your average weekend racer does not have a twin turbo fox. I dont think the one in the video is twin turboed either. A mildly built 5.0 does not excel on the track because of its top end power period. 2j that can get of the line however will run like 13's at 130 just ask allen.


Damn Son !! You have no Clue At all... I see these cars everyday.. The only reason why you don't see these cars as much is because most all of them go to the track... ;) .. I posted a Pic of a Coupe in another Thread.. Its a SBF that went 10's on Motor.. If the car Was Geared for the Highway it would Kill a 600hp 240... Sorry Man !!.. We make 600-900 with 281ci 2v's.. If you would like to see a Mustang run a 240 Let me know, I can make it happen.. But I promise you will get your feelings Hurt.. I have owned a 240 and Yes it was Quick on the street, But at the end of the day a v8 is a v8.. CI is the Key... ;) IF I DID another 240 It would have a V8.... :yes: .. I'll make 600+ on 10lbs of Boost.. ;) .. And it will still have a Killer Power Band.. :goodjob:

[Capt._Ron]

not all supras are slow off the line but mine is!!! the reason most are pigs off the line is b/c of a thing called power-to-weight ratio. that's why dave puts 2j's in 240's. simple math, my supra weighs 3550 lbs. dave's car weighs less say roughly a 1000 lbs less w/o telling the exact #. guys who drag know what that means. it's called power off the line b/c it takes less torque to get the weight off the line so the hp can take over down the track!! oh, and the main reason most fox's are able to launch so hard actually has nothing to do with the power they make, it's called suspension. there is no car that i know of that you can find more go fast suspension parts for than a mustang. every manufacturer is making them b/c there are so many mustangs on the road it is more than profitable to do so. i can take my stang, put 500 whp in it and go 12's or i can go mid 10's in it all depending on one thing!! SUSPENISON!! dont believe me, ask the stang guys on here or call jeff down at prospeed and ask him how fast his car went last weekend at steele and how much power he has. no bashing intended at all, just facts and as always my :2cents: :D

Power to weight?? Maybe ive been hearing to much bullshit about the almighty 2j but this is the motor that will make 800 hp on a stock bottom end right? by my math your average 600 hp supra (not to unbelievable) ha about 5.9 lbs/hp and if you have a fox coupe that wieghs 3000 lbs and has 400 hp (also not unbelievable) 7.5lbs/hp. Granted these are just theoretical #'s. Not to be a jackass but I do know a little about foxes mainly because my father currently owns about 25.( about half are junk). I know that suspension and tires are very important in drag racing and Ive been saying the whole time that torque is why foxes are fast in the quater :crazy:! Torque is not as help full at high speeds because torque=force x distance(nothing to do with speed) however power = work/time (does relate to speed) So if im not mistaken hp is more important at higher speeds. Higher speeds as in a 60-160 highway roll.

None the less "Scholars maintain that the Germans founded Saaan Diago about 100 years ago which of course means a whales vagina in German.":screwy:

[1civic]

SUPRAS can go fast in the right hands

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9rJI3-4aq-Y

stock long block with a 71 mm turbo and NO NOS. O its full factory weight too

Badass driver + amazing tune + trd lsd = 9.56 @ 144


Don't get me wrong I like Supras But they are over Priced.. The money it takes to make power is crazy... :screwy: .. After 10 years I'm learning where the real power is... :goodjob: (CI).. Looking at the trap speed, that car is not making the HP you would think... :D .. If you look into the car a Little more you would see the 60' s are low, YOU don't need Big Power to run fast 1/4 times.. Get your car to HOOK and your times will drop... :boobies: ..

[Capt._Ron]

Damn Son !! You have no Clue At all... I see these cars everyday.. The only reason why you don't see these cars as much is because most all of them go to the track... ;) .. I posted a Pic of a Coupe in another Thread.. Its a SBF that went 10's on Motor.. If the car Was Geared for the Highway it would Kill a 600hp 240... Sorry Man !!.. We make 600-900 with 281ci 2v's.. If you would like to see a Mustang run a 240 Let me know, I can make it happen.. But I promise you will get your feelings Hurt.. I have owned a 240 and Yes it was Quick on the street, But at the end of the day a v8 is a v8.. CI is the Key... ;) IF I DID another 240 It would have a V8.... :yes: .. I'll make 600+ on 10lbs of Boost.. ;) .. And it will still have a Killer Power Band.. :goodjob:

Well dern i guess since i drive one of dem dere imports i have never been to one of dem dere drag races. I aint never see nothing like that man. I always assumed the green ekipses was the fastest specially dem with the NAWZZ and all you know man. Thanks for reminding me that a 900 hp domestic will beat a 600 hp import. OMG!! I can see clearly now HOLY SHIT BATMAN FUCK YOUR IMPORT BATMOBILE WERE DROPPING THE END ALL BE ALL 4.6 CRUSTANG MOTOR IN IT !!!

ha ha man i have a little bit of a clue!! ;)

[Capt._Ron]

Don't get me wrong I like Supras But they are over Priced.. The money it takes to make power is crazy... :screwy: .. After 10 years I'm learning where the real power is... :goodjob: (CI).. Looking at the trap speed, that car is not making the HP you would think... :D .. If you look into the car a Little more you would see the 60' s are low, YOU don't need Big Power to run fast 1/4 times.. Get your car to HOOK and your times will drop... :boobies: ..

For sure:goodjob: I totally agree with you there. There is no "replacement for displacement" as the old mantra states.

[1civic]

Power to weight?? Maybe ive been hearing to much bullshit about the almighty 2j but this is the motor that will make 800 hp on a stock bottom end right? by my math your average 600 hp supra (not to unbelievable) ha about 5.9 lbs/hp and if you have a fox coupe that wieghs 3000 lbs and has 400 hp (also not unbelievable) 7.5lbs/hp. Granted these are just theoretical #'s. Not to be a jackass but I do know a little about foxes mainly because my father currently owns about 25.( about half are junk). I know that suspension and tires are very important in drag racing and Ive been saying the whole time that torque is why foxes are fast in the quater :crazy:! Torque is not as help full at high speeds because torque=force x distance(nothing to do with speed) however power = work/time (does relate to speed) So if im not mistaken hp is more important at higher speeds. Higher speeds as in a 60-160 highway roll.

None the less "Scholars maintain that the Germans founded Saaan Diago about 100 years ago which of course means a whales vagina in



German.":screwy:


Well then You would know of a 03 Cobra... We made over 900 with the stock Bottom end, Also Have you heard of a teksid block (I think I spelled that right)
We made over 1000 whp with that Block, These are not Stroker motors we Bulid................. I can only speak of the cars I know and I'm sure if you look up some info you would find tons of Mustangs making big power... Yes HP !! Your welcome to prove you point on the Street, I'm sure I can get a Mustang that does Highway Pulls.. It will cost some money but It can happen... ;) .. You know If someone with a 2j Wants I could set up a Free race, Maybe !!.. :taun:

[TIGERJC]

Don't get me wrong I like Supras But they are over Priced.. The money it takes to make power is crazy... :screwy: .. After 10 years I'm learning where the real power is... :goodjob: (CI).. Looking at the trap speed, that car is not making the HP you would think... :D .. If you look into the car a Little more you would see the 60' s are low, YOU don't need Big Power to run fast 1/4 times.. Get your car to HOOK and your times will drop... :boobies: ..
Overprice, you 're absolutely right. But they are still badass cars nonetheless except when it comes to the weight of the vehicle, which is the weak point of the car. Damn Toyota reinforces ever fucking part on their cars, for example my mr2 weighs about 2800lbs. I like supras b/c they are fast in a straight line and can handle the twisties. Going fast in a straight line mainly comes down to the driver and suspension.

[TIGERJC]

Well then You would know of a 03 Cobra... We made over 900 with the stock Bottom end, Also Have you heard of a teksid block (I think I spelled that right)
We made over 1000 whp with that Block, These are not Stroker motors we Bulid................. I can only speak of the cars I know and I'm sure if you look up some info you would find tons of Mustangs making big power... Yes HP !! Your welcome to prove you point on the Street, I'm sure I can get a Mustang that does Highway Pulls.. It will cost some money but It can happen... ;) .. You know If someone with a 2j Wants I could set up a Free race, Maybe !!.. :taun:
Lightspeed or Clark plz do it

[1civic]

Well dern i guess since i drive one of dem dere imports i have never been to one of dem dere drag races. I aint never see nothing like that man. I always assumed the green ekipses was the fastest specially dem with the NAWZZ and all you know man. Thanks for reminding me that a 900 hp domestic will beat a 600 hp import. OMG!! I can see clearly now HOLY SHIT BATMAN FUCK YOUR IMPORT BATMOBILE WERE DROPPING THE END ALL BE ALL 4.6 CRUSTANG MOTOR IN IT !!!

ha ha man i have a little bit of a clue!! ;)


You have a Clue ?.... :screwy: .. I remember your car from the last Private Meet... ;) .. I'll be sure to say Hello when I see you... If your car is worth a Shit then you will give me a Run... ;) .. OH !! I don't have a Fucking 4.6.. I just work on them... :cheers: .. Hope to see ya soon, Young Buck !!

[Capt._Ron]

I know all about the 32V terminators cobra throw the big KB on it, feed it enough fuel and you have a monster ha ha. You can ask Mr. Kidd though, I am not a fan of the 2j swaps in 240s. 240s with sr's are perfect to me( I have one ha ha). Just the right about of power in a light chassis and sexy looks (lol ha ha ha). I dont really know anyone with a 2j but ill see if I could see up something is CCR's 750- 900 hp R33 monster that should be finished this summer.

[1civic]

Lightspeed or Clark plz do it


The car is at the Shop... :yes: ... In time, It seems ether car is down, I know it will happen soon... :goodjob: .. This car I speak of has been out, some people may know it.. And its a Stock Block 4.6... ;)

[TIGERJC]

The car is at the Shop... :yes: ... In time, It seems ether car is down, I know it will happen soon... :goodjob: .. This car I speak of has been out, some people may know it.. And its a Stock Block 4.6... ;)
make sure someone with a nice camcorder records it, hopefully I can be there when it happens

[1civic]

I know all about the 32V terminators cobra throw the big KB on it, feed it enough fuel and you have a monster ha ha. You can ask Mr. Kidd though, I am not a fan of the 2j swaps in 240s. 240s with sr's are perfect to me( I have one ha ha). Just the right about of power in a light chassis and sexy looks (lol ha ha ha). I dont really know anyone with a 2j but ill see if I could see up something is CCR's 750- 900 hp R33 monster that should be finished this summer.

The 32v's don't like the KB's.. Yes they will make power but we have 2v's that make more with the same Blower... With those big heads they need more air.. Turbos are sick on those 32v motors.. 800 Plus with a Fuel System and maybe cams... :goodjob: .. KB's give you a Nice Power band but the Turbos or Turbo is the Key on them... :cheers:

[Capt._Ron]

You have a Clue ?.... :screwy: .. I remember your car from the last Private Meet... ;) .. I'll be sure to say Hello when I see you... If your car is worth a Shit then you will give me a Run... ;) .. OH !! I don't have a Fucking 4.6.. I just work on them... :cheers: .. Hope to see ya soon, Young Buck !!

Wow since my car is slow that obviously means that I can't see or read. It has an sr20 thats basically stock. I have about $6,500 in the car and im in college. You have probably have been there and if you have then you probably already know that unless your parents buy stuff for you then its kind of hard to get an engineering degree and work a full time job so that you can have a fast car. BTW do you work a Modular Powerhouse? b/c Tim does turn out some fast as hell 4.6's

[1civic]

make sure someone with a nice camcorder records it, hopefully I can be there when it happens


If you was around Barrett more you would have seen this car... :goodjob:
I'll see him next week and trust me he is ready to get out, Cars been down like 6 weeks now, Its only because we are backed up.. :doh: ..

[Capt._Ron]

The 32v's don't like the KB's.. Yes they will make power but we have 2v's that make more with the same Blower... With those big heads they need more air.. Turbos are sick on those 32v motors.. 800 Plus with a Fuel System and maybe cams... :goodjob: .. KB's give you a Nice Power band but the Turbos or Turbo is the Key on them... :cheers:

What heads are you using on the 2v to flow enought to make 800+. Stock ported and polished??

[1civic]

Wow since my car is slow that obviously means that I can't see or read. It has an sr20 thats basically stock. I have about $6,500 in the car and im in college. You have probably have been there and if you have then you probably already know that unless your parents buy stuff for you then its kind of hard to get an engineering degree and work a full time job so that you can have a fast car. BTW do you work a Modular Powerhouse? b/c Tim does turn out some fast as hell 4.6's

Come on man I was going to run you in my Honda... :boobies: ... But Yes I have been there and I had a 240 that I done and cought hell about..
Oh !! Yes I'm a Tech At Modular PowerHouse... :goodjob:

[Capt._Ron]

I think is funny how eager the domestic guys are to rape 275hp cars though.

[Capt._Ron]

Are you the guy who drives a honda to work as a daily?

[1civic]

What heads are you using on the 2v to flow enought to make 800+. Stock ported and polished??

Race Ported Heads... 2v (PI) Heads will make good power with cams though..

[1civic]

Are you the guy who drives a honda to work as a daily?


Yep... Thats Me !! :D

[Capt._Ron]

I know you work on tons of cars but you may remember a very mild 03 mach that was sent there that for some reason just wouldnt run with the granetelli coil packs. It spent like 10hrs on the dyno. Thats Andrew he is a good friend of mine and ive been to the shop and even met you briefly I believe. BTW im probably going to come up tommorow to see the mach with twins dyno.

[1civic]

I know you work on tons of cars but you may remember a very mild 03 mach that was sent there that for some reason just wouldnt run with the granetelli coil packs. It spent like 10hrs on the dyno. Thats Andrew he is a good friend of mine and ive been to the shop and even met you briefly I believe. BTW im probably going to come up tommorow to see the mach with twins dyno.


Yes I remember that Car, It was underpowered... I think we fixed it though, Gained like 40hp with the stock coil packs....

Holy Shit... A Bunch of people are coming up.. Not just to see that car but cause its the day before track day...Maybe it will Rain... :lmfao:

I know the Mach, That car has been a Pain in the ass... ;) .. Not much to see though, His motor is hurt, We told him it had oil on #7 & 8... He said run it so Oh well !!... Should have his car Finished in the morning cause it still has to be detailed...

[Capt._Ron]

Damnit i should have know that my E- KRunK LEVel would eventually subside and that there would be no drama allthough i do think a run of the honda and 240 is in order.

Since you work at modular powerhouse, I respectfully resign my argument due to the lack of 800+hp cars that i have built ha ha .

[Capt._Ron]

Yes I remember that Car, It was underpowered... I think we fixed it though, Gained like 40hp with the stock coil packs....

Holy Shit... A Bunch of people are coming up.. Not just to see that car but cause its the day before track day...Maybe it will Rain... :lmfao:

I know the Mach, That car has been a Pain in the ass... ;) .. Not much to see though, His motor is hurt, We told him it had oil on #7 & 8... He said run it so Oh well !!... Should have his car Finished in the morning cause it still has to be detailed...

Ahh damn well Andrew and his dad are bringing the 69 mach1's and his dad's is a CJ car!

[1civic]

Damnit i should have know that my E- KRunK LEVel would eventually subside and that there would be no drama allthough i do think a run of the honda and 240 is in order.

Since you work at modular powerhouse, I respectfully resign my argument due to the lack of 800+hp cars that i have built ha ha .


You need to come up I'll post the reason.... 1sec..
But Yes in the time I have worked there I have built alot of cars and it seems like every car the leaves makes 600+.. ;) .. What the Hell are people thinking building a Damn Mustang... :screwy: .. They keep coming and with only 3 Techs we are Backed up like crazy... :eek:

[Capt._Ron]

I saw when i was there. You guys still manage to get things done in a timely manner though. Im still planning on coming.

[1civic]

MPH Mongoose Series 1...... 500HP...

[1civic]

MPH Series 1, Is a Car We do... We have 2 dealers in Ga that sell them and 2 in Tn... This car is #11 and is the only with a Charger.. Its already sold and the guy plans to put it in his collection of cars... :D

[Capt._Ron]

Sick!!! Ill be there