Louis Williams

[soul]

Drafted by 76ers

He just graduated from South Gwinnett H.S.

[chuck]

damn....i went to berkmar, we had a ton of kids who the NBA wanted but they all went to school...we had tony akins back in 99...haha

[bigb996]

yea i played against louis i always thought he was good but pro material? i dunno i think he shoulda done college first. I also dont see why Jarret Jack went pro he shoulda stayed and helped tech through another season of ncaa madness.

[twkg]

berkmar had a lot of talent then

[LaurenK]

That is so awesome...
I was watching "Cribs" on MTV the other day; Louis Williams was on the episode with Lil' Bow Wow at his house. I guess stars hang with stars! Any ways, I thought it was cool.

[HEATON]

Great..Another waste of talent bc lack of "molding" from college.

[LaurenK]

Waste of Talent? Uh...I think if you are drafted for the NBA, you have to be somewhat talented. And out of Highschool to boot, that's amazing.

Look at Lebron James...He is phenominal, like one in a billion.

[HEATON]

DUH i know one would have to be talented thats why i said its a WASTE of it...ok now imagine how good he'd be after say 3-4 years of college? Where one learns to actually play as a team and not a "showboat" as they play in HS, and being taught how to master your skills in a one on one atmosphere.

[AtifSajid]

berkmar had a lot of talent then

lol..after Tony Berkmar had a talent or 2 come through every season...

[4dmin]

DUH i know one would have to be talented thats why i said its a WASTE of it...ok now imagine how good he'd be after say 3-4 years of college? Where one learns to actually play as a team and not a "showboat" as they play in HS, and being taught how to master your skills in a one on one atmosphere.
i would have to agree... kids going pro is nothing more than a quick way to build a PR GIANT out of them for the future. It is kinda funny, but hey we couldn't have shows like cribs if we didn't have multi $$$ "STARS" to idolize :rolleyes: Just think maybe he can help us in the next olympics since we certainly need it :D

[chuck]

lol..after Tony Berkmar had a talent or 2 come through every season...
yeah, probably up until 2003 then it all started going back down again from what i've heard....probably because coach boyd resigned after he got caught serving up some free throws to a janitor in his classroom :idb:

[LaurenK]

I don't agree...I think going Pro will able him to learn more about playing as a team. The only way you can win a championship is to ultimately work together in the end, and preparation for that is just as important if not more than in College. You are always going to have your showboats, whether it be Highschool, College, or the pro's...so that has nothing to do with it. He is going up against the Best players in the world, and if he is good enough to make the Pro's then he shouldn't waste his time in College, when obviously his talent exceed that of a College level. Like I said before, look at Lebron! He came right out of Highschool, and I predict he will end up one of the Best Players in the NBA. I don't think he is lacking anything that he could have learned in College, that he hasn't learned playing Pro ball. Any ways, Louis Williams has it made...If I was offered an amazing career, making millions then I would for go college in a heart-beat.

[drupason]

yea ive played with josh smith who now plays for the hawks he came to nba straight outta high school. I didnt think of him as anythin special tho back then just tall as hell i used to have to guard his punkass sometimes

[B16a2 Civic]

talent non the less...but undeveloped...i too would have took the college route...
Look at Jermaine O Neal...he was straight out of high school yet it took him 3-4 years ( could have been college years) untill he developed into the all star he is now...even though the money is a big reason the jump from HS to NBA is being made
Kobe took about 2-3 years before developed...

Lebron James is the exception to that rule...he has raw talent that in the NBA or College he would dominate

[drupason]

either way college or straight to the pros they are gettin developed

[HEATON]

I really dont even feel like arguing anymore, i think your Title says it all.

[drupason]

lol

[B16a2 Civic]

either way college or straight to the pros they are gettin developed


not really, theres ALOT of HS who made the jump who are now playing in Europe or not playing at all..... then again theres alot of college developed players who arent doing what they did in College i.e Christian Latner, Grant Hill (anymore), Shane Battier

[AtifSajid]

if it was me, it would depend on all the hype and how much they were paying me. cause i would gladly wait 2-3 years for stardom if i was making mad loot.

[HEATON]

then again theres alot of college developed players who arent doing what they did in College i.e Christian Latner, Grant Hill (anymore), Shane Battier
Or its just the fact that that they are playing against ppl who more, WAY more talented then the no name players those players played against in college.

[B16a2 Civic]

Or its just the fact that that they are playing against ppl who more, WAY more talented then the no name players those players played against in college.

i agree

[HEATON]

EXACTLY many ppl have brought up the part of "Making the big dough." Instead of Living the dream of playing in the NBA.

[B16a2 Civic]

id rather play on 155th ( ruckers) then the nba...that league to me has ALOT more talent

[Kristi]

all sorts of stars were coming to South to see him play from what I saw on the news awhile back. P.Diddy came, Jermaine Dupri, etc. It was crazy

[LaurenK]

Actually, Paul "Who I work with" messes with me all the time...and he added that to my title...and knowing him, he will come back with a smart ass comment like he always does.
You are one of those people who thinks they are always right, and then when someone doesn't..you get your panties in a wad. Not all people are going to think like you, so you might as well get over it.

[B16a2 Civic]

all sorts of stars were coming to South to see him play from what I saw on the news awhile back. P.Diddy came, Jermaine Dupri, etc. It was crazy


i think they came for other reasons just to see him seeing as
Jermaine Dupri Lives in atl and P Diddy baby momma Kim Porter lives in Columbus.....i see her lil Range Rover on 24's all teh time, we even sparked a convo :).....but i know a few other celebs who came down here was just to see him

[LaurenK]

Michael Vick too...but like you said he lives in the ATL...

[B16a2 Civic]

Michael Vick too...but like you said he lives in the ATL...

:cool:

[LaurenK]

what? Michael Vick went to one of his games.

[soul]

I went to a few games, nothing a like a 6'1 PG doin 360 and shit dunking, pretty exciting in HS, along with him being able to drop 3 about 3-5ft behind were nba line is

[B16a2 Civic]

what? Michael Vick went to one of his games.

:D

[Jaimecbr900]

I too think it's usually a mistake to jump right out of high school into a pro career. That especially goes for the NBA and even more so the NFL.

Money is a huge consideration. I can't fault someone who is being waved millions to come play, yet there is a HUGE risk. The risk is that w/o anything to fall back on, i.e. education, when something goes wrong and you no longer are the cat's meow......you'll be left flipping burgers back home with momma.

Injuries folks, injuries. How many marquis players do you know that have never had one??? Not many. Reason? Pro sports, any sport for that matter, when played for any length of time will take a toll on the body. Even normally non-contact sports like Baseball have it. Look at how catchers and pitchers walk when they retire......

Point is that in the pros, you're only as good as your last contract. Many a good players have gone the way of the Do-Do bird after they suffer career ending injuries. What happens then? Yes, there are things that the leagues do to support players after things like that, but it aint for long.

I know a guy that used to play for the Cleveland Browns. Big guy. He got injured. You know what he does now??? Sells copiers. He was making mad dough back in the day, but he also had big expenses too. People don't realize that as soon as you start making a ton of money, you spend a ton of money always thinking it's never going to end. The only money that is that long is for marquis players that have been at it for a LONG time. The MJ's, the Montanas, the Elways, the Magics, the Shaqs.....those guys won't ever have to work another day in their life if they don't want to. Why? Because they made so much money over LONG careers that they don't. A rookie making a million then falling off into obscurity or worse....that won't last for long.

A free education is not a smart thing to pass up. Time to mature and polish your skills is even more valuable too.

[HEATON]

Actually, Paul "Who I work with" messes with me all the time...and he added that to my title...and knowing him, he will come back with a smart ass comment like he always does.
You are one of those people who thinks they are always right, and then when someone doesn't..you get your panties in a wad. Not all people are going to think like you, so you might as well get over it.

Hey your totally right! Glad we have ppl like you to set other ppl strait on this board. Also im glad we have players like LEBRON JAMES to set the bar for everyone else who comes frm HS. Bc if the NBA thinks your the shit strait out of HS your gonn be a superstar for many many years..But then again, LEBRON has been known since he was a freshman, not just one of these guys that's really tall with talent and finally got some exposure in their later years of HS.

[Kristi]

I too think it's usually a mistake to jump right out of high school into a pro career. That especially goes for the NBA and even more so the NFL.

Money is a huge consideration. I can't fault someone who is being waved millions to come play, yet there is a HUGE risk. The risk is that w/o anything to fall back on, i.e. education, when something goes wrong and you no longer are the cat's meow......you'll be left flipping burgers back home with momma.

Injuries folks, injuries. How many marquis players do you know that have never had one??? Not many. Reason? Pro sports, any sport for that matter, when played for any length of time will take a toll on the body. Even normally non-contact sports like Baseball have it. Look at how catchers and pitchers walk when they retire......

Point is that in the pros, you're only as good as your last contract. Many a good players have gone the way of the Do-Do bird after they suffer career ending injuries. What happens then? Yes, there are things that the leagues do to support players after things like that, but it aint for long.

I know a guy that used to play for the Cleveland Browns. Big guy. He got injured. You know what he does now??? Sells copiers. He was making mad dough back in the day, but he also had big expenses too. People don't realize that as soon as you start making a ton of money, you spend a ton of money always thinking it's never going to end. The only money that is that long is for marquis players that have been at it for a LONG time. The MJ's, the Montanas, the Elways, the Magics, the Shaqs.....those guys won't ever have to work another day in their life if they don't want to. Why? Because they made so much money over LONG careers that they don't. A rookie making a million then falling off into obscurity or worse....that won't last for long.

A free education is not a smart thing to pass up. Time to mature and polish your skills is even more valuable too.

well put, i completely agree

[HEATON]

A free education is not a smart thing to pass up. Time to mature and polish your skills is even more valuable too.

Not only does one learn a 'Class, Book Education' in college but how to actually manage the money and fame that sports has to offer. If you cant perfect your life off court, it will deff show on court. Yes, there are the great and socially wild players, but where are they after 5 years?

[Jaimecbr900]

There are always exceptions to any rule. Louis Williams may just be one of those Lebron James exceptions. He may dominate in the NBA and prosper. Personally, I hope he does. That's what his goal was, so go for it.

I'm just saying that someone with that kind of talent that is a "given" that will be a full ride scholarship to any college he wants.....should take advantage of it. If he has true skills, they can only get better not worse. His value will go up and not down. The advantage is that he will also get a degree at the same time. It seems like a win-win to me. Hell, he can put on a bigger show in College in front of National TV cameras all the while hearing cash registers at the same time.

Most of the time that people rush into things, it turns out later to be a mistake.

[HEATON]

"Everyone knows Shaq made all his money in College"..lol Sorry jus something i heard like WAY back in ther day off a show or something, thought it was rather humourus to this subject.

[Mike]

Drafted by 76ers

He just graduated from South Gwinnett H.S.

is this ithe kid that was ganna play for UGA? i rember hearing about a kid from south that was ganna play for uga and he was bad ass. well i guess now he will be making the $$$$.....must be nice

[Jaimecbr900]

is this ithe kid that was ganna play for UGA? i rember hearing about a kid from south that was ganna play for uga and he was bad ass. well i guess now he will be making the $$$$.....must be nice

Yep, same one.

[CLyons27]

what pick was he?

[drupason]

45th

[bigb996]

well anyone who knows anything about the way basketball works knows that going straight out of hs is not the best idea. If anyone was smart they would go straight to college play it through and then go pro. You gain better knowledge and learn your own skills better as well as learn how to play as a team. HS ball all the way to Pro is a HUGE jump. Plus if you go straight through and something happens likey ou get hurt you are screwed and you have no degree or anything to back it up. College is by far the best way to go and they treat you like gold anywayz. I think making the jump is dumb and yes Lebron james was a great player but hes an acception. Not everyone makes it after the jump theres only a select few.

[99SI]

Jaime, your point about injuries is another argument for going straight to the pros. If you are a pro prospect and forgo that to go to college and have a career ending injury you don't have shit. If you get a $1mill signing bonus and play for 2 years and have a career ending injury you can still afford to pay your way through college if you want to. Just another perspective.

[soul]

Main reason he didnt go college route, was he was dumb as shit.

Barely graduated, with like a 2.2 or some shit. Low SAT's. The kid is plain out dumb. He would have failed out in college.

[josh nixon]

if i were in these high school stars shoes, i would prob go the nba and go ahead and get the money, cause you never know about what could happen with injuries and such. but on the other hand there are some awesome experiences and life situations that you'll learn in college and never learn in the NBA. i do think louis got lucky in that he now gets to learn from Allen Iverson, the man he has been compared too for the last year. i'm not saying he's as good, but his game is similar and now he gets to learn first hand from him, which will ultimately make his game that much better and prob give him what he needs to become a good NBA player, if he has that in him.

[AtifSajid]

He can ball, Ive seen him play, and he doesnt even try that hard when he is playing with high school kids. Its like me playing against Josh...why try...DAMN>>>>>

[drupason]

hahaha!

[josh nixon]

He can ball, Ive seen him play, and he doesnt even try that hard when he is playing with high school kids. Its like me playing against Josh...why try...DAMN>>>>>

jokes jokes jokes! let's take it to the court gimp!

[CiVeK9]

boyd was messing with a Spanish teacher..but yea Berkmar was off the chain in basketball till 03' after Causey left