View Full Version : **Yet again, another HID thread.. **
Nitro
04-15-2007, 02:10 PM
ok i felt the need to post this.........due to some of the whinny asses on here & the constant bickering.
Please note: From time to time, I am asked to comment on what are marketed as "new developments" in HID kits, and those asking sometimes point out to me that these "new developments" might render this article out-of-date, since the copyright date on the article is older than the date of these "new developments". Please understand, marketeers will always be coming up with dazzling new pseudoscience, tempting new hype and sneaky new ways of trying to convince you to buy their stuff. It's what they do. This article will never go out of date, because the problems with HID kits are conceptual problems, not problems of implementation. Therefore, they cannot be overcome by additional research and development, any more than someone could develop a way for you to put on somebody else's eyeglasses and see correctly.
from a future customer & this was taken from a thread on our forum regarding HID's:
I'm not trying to na say the idea. I'm thinking about it too.
My guess is the difference between HID and halogen OE housings would come in the reflector then. Just a guess... All the different planes inside the reflector toss light in various directions. In the case of a halogen lamp, the reflector would attempt to make a certain amount of glare to spot signs and stuff off the road. HID reflectors keep glare at a minimum and focus light on the street. Often, a glass lens is used to magnify and direct the light, but it seems not in Subaru's case.
Another option is to use a cold temp. bulb. Like a 10K or something. Those seem a lot less intense. Or maybe a smaller watt HID bulb... I'd like to have a 8K kit myself. I'm interested in seeing how these turn out.
If you're running a projector style (06-07), as far as I know you're pretty much good to go. Those have a very precise beam and typically throw very little/no glare.
http://www.danielsternlighting.com/tech/bulbs/Hid/conversions/conversions.html
do your research folks........but remember it is your choice what route you take with your projects or how your money is spent...i do understand that some peoples budgets only allow for within reach mods or you having to settle for a set-up a little more within reason due to the cost of living or when it just basically comes down to priorities.<sp?> :ninja:
i hope this helps. ;)
Many people believe that the higher the colour temperature the brighter the lamp. This is totally wrong. The colour temperature is purely a scale to measure the colour of the light output and is measured on the graph shown as an X and Y coordinate. It is a reference purely for colour and could equally be called White , Green or Blue. The reality is the higher up the scale the lamps are the less bright they become. 4100K lamps are approx 20% brighter (measured in Lumens not degrees K) than the 6000K. If you want lighting performance the 4100K Philips lamps are the best on the market with 3500 lumen.
Degrees K = ONLY COLOUR
Lumen= BRIGHTNESS
Maniaç
04-15-2007, 02:15 PM
i have no problem with my HID kit. since my WRX is an 06(which comes with projectors) i know what you're talking about. about three days ago, i took a dirve in Juan's car(07 WRX) and compared with his stock halogen lights, and mines are alot brighter.
Even though ive seen some other brands of HIDs with bluer 10k im VERY happy with mines. Nitro this is coming up because b0ki's 10k looks alittle bluer than mines.
Could each brand come with a diffrenet K level?
Echonova
04-15-2007, 03:27 PM
Ever find out if they would work in my Silvia? Eh? Thought I forgot didn't ya!!!!!! j/k but not really
Nitro
04-15-2007, 03:41 PM
i have no problem with my HID kit. since my WRX is an 06(which comes with projectors) i know what you're talking about. about three days ago, i took a dirve in Juan's car(07 WRX) and compared with his stock halogen lights, and mines are alot brighter.
Even though ive seen some other brands of HIDs with bluer 10k im VERY happy with mines. Nitro this is coming up because b0ki's 10k looks alittle bluer than mines.
Could each brand come with a diffrenet K level?
lol ..........just a different company that's all but the majority of them carry about the same color....u gotta understand some people want a bluer look or what ever their desired color may be thus causing *NEW* companys to beef up their kits a little. all in competion as always
Nitro
04-15-2007, 03:44 PM
Ever find out if they would work in my Silvia? Eh? Thought I forgot didn't ya!!!!!! j/k but not really
ha!!! pm sent....
Blitanicle99
04-15-2007, 03:56 PM
Ill be contacting you when I get my Cummins soon.
gtikid
04-15-2007, 03:57 PM
What's your favorite color?
What's everyones personal favorite?
I like the violet purple and have wanted the violet purple for a whie now. But the other night on the road, I saw a hatch with BRIGHT ass blue lights that were lighting up EVERYTHING. I'm kinda starting to like those more now.
Are the 10k gonna give the brightest blue?
Kamikaze
04-15-2007, 05:39 PM
What's your favorite color?
What's everyones personal favorite?
I like the violet purple and have wanted the violet purple for a whie now. But the other night on the road, I saw a hatch with BRIGHT ass blue lights that were lighting up EVERYTHING. I'm kinda starting to like those more now.
Are the 10k gonna give the brightest blue?
My favorite is 3000K. Pure gold. :goodjob:
Nittanys1
04-15-2007, 05:45 PM
NItro...you need to get AIM
www.aim.com when you get that downloaded hit me up! nittanys1 !!!
gtikid
04-15-2007, 05:55 PM
My favorite is 3000K. Pure gold. :goodjob:
What does pure gold look like? Can you get a pic? :goodjob:
I want something bright, so I can blind mofos :lmfao: :D
ct9a gsr
04-15-2007, 06:15 PM
Heh... some manufacturers (or most rather) skew Kelvin ratings so they're as high as possible. Consider it a marketing tool where most people asume the higher the number, the more leet/better it is while disregarding what the Kelvin rating of light even means. Also, the Kelvin rating of HIDs really have nothing to do with its actual output of lumens, lux, and overall brightness. Just my :2cents:
Example, these are 5,800K HIDs:
quickdodge®
04-15-2007, 06:19 PM
My favorite is 3000K. Pure gold. :goodjob:
Same here. I used gold when I was racing. Later, QD.
Kamikaze
04-15-2007, 06:56 PM
What does pure gold look like? Can you get a pic? :goodjob:
I want something bright, so I can blind mofos :lmfao: :D
http://clie.ws/bbs/uploads/post-584-1096553259.jpg
http://image.space.rakuten.co.jp/lg01/56/0000180756/31/imga5d6dc679bp3og.jpeg
gtikid
04-15-2007, 07:31 PM
Heh... some manufacturers (or most rather) skew Kelvin ratings so they're as high as possible. Consider it a marketing tool where most people asume the higher the number, the more leet/better it is while disregarding what the Kelvin rating of light even means. Also, the Kelvin rating of HIDs really have nothing to do with its actual output of lumens, lux, and overall brightness. Just my :2cents:
Example, these are 5,800K HIDs:
Soooo what your saying is? :thinking:....we should just ask somebody what they're running when we see some lights that we like?
gtikid
04-15-2007, 07:31 PM
http://clie.ws/bbs/uploads/post-584-1096553259.jpg
http://image.space.rakuten.co.jp/lg01/56/0000180756/31/imga5d6dc679bp3og.jpeg
Holy shit that gold looks good as hell!! Hmmmm I think I might have a new favorite :D
Nitro
04-15-2007, 08:16 PM
Holy shit that gold looks good as hell!! Hmmmm I think I might have a new favorite :D
if done correctly....it should look like this :D
gtikid
04-15-2007, 08:18 PM
Man now your making it hard to choose...with all these different colors, it's hard having a favorite now
Nittanys1
04-15-2007, 08:19 PM
still waiting on you to get AIM....
Kamikaze
04-15-2007, 08:27 PM
if done correctly....it should look like this :D
Yeah, you can't beat projectors. :goodjob:
Nitro
04-15-2007, 09:07 PM
still waiting on you to get AIM....
don't have the time Trav.....sorry
Nittanys1
04-15-2007, 09:13 PM
damn takes like 5 mins...took you 1/2 the time to type your responce...its cool tho....ill send my 8 ppl else where...
Lucky DAWG
04-15-2007, 09:25 PM
i hate HID's
some guy sold me some on here was gonna sell me some for 150$ then stole my money and beat me up
Lucky DAWG
04-15-2007, 10:10 PM
i hate HID's
some guy sold me some on here was gonna sell me some for 150$ then stole my money and beat me up
btw
his name was something farris
Nitro
04-15-2007, 10:30 PM
damn takes like 5 mins...took you 1/2 the time to type your responce...its cool tho....ill send my 8 ppl else where...
Trav my cell # hasn't changed bro.....hardly have enough time to monitor this forum.........where most of my customers are please understand :( can't create something else i can't keep up with.
Jecht
04-15-2007, 10:33 PM
Nitro, how long do you plan on doing this? I'm interested but I don't want to spend money on my Jetta atm since I'm trying to sell it, but I want some HIDs on my next car.
Nitro
04-15-2007, 10:46 PM
i hate HID's
some guy sold me some on here was gonna sell me some for 150$ then stole my money and beat me up
damn u Chase!!!
Magius Nitro, how long do you plan on doing this? I'm interested but I don't want to spend money on my Jetta atm since I'm trying to sell it, but I want some HIDs on my next car.
can't really answer that bro.........maybe a couple more weeks now ....too much whinning.
Lucky DAWG
04-15-2007, 11:05 PM
damn u Chase!!!
Magius Nitro, how long do you plan on doing this? I'm interested but I don't want to spend money on my Jetta atm since I'm trying to sell it, but I want some HIDs on my next car.
can't really answer that bro.........maybe a couple more weeks now ....too much whinning.
:lmfao:
Nitro
04-16-2007, 08:51 AM
bump for new color i'm working on getting........... :D
AnthonyF
04-16-2007, 09:10 AM
I have 10k which is a birllian blue. very pretty. It does produce a lot of light but the lower Kelvin ratings that produce the brighter white are brighter like tha king Nitro says!
Nomad!
04-16-2007, 09:19 AM
i hate HID's
some guy sold me some on here was gonna sell me some for 150$ then stole my money and beat me up
I think that's the same guy that raped my cat :mad:
Brett
04-16-2007, 09:46 AM
I have had my 8000k on the Fusion for a year now, I love it and love blinding people!! LOL
Lexus comes out this summer with thier GS Hybrid and that will have the first ever L.E.D headlights, I wonder how long until a company starts to make those aftermarket, those I bet will look hot
Nitro
04-16-2007, 11:37 AM
I have had my 8000k on the Fusion for a year now, I love it and love blinding people!! LOL
Lexus comes out this summer with thier GS Hybrid and that will have the first ever L.E.D headlights, I wonder how long until a company starts to make those aftermarket, those I bet will look hot
these kat's get on here and complain about blinding folks...........hrrrm what about these suv's with oem hid set-ups that blind the hell out of us....they sit so damn high up in your rear view u can't see shit & also when they are approching;) but whateva.........
Brett
04-16-2007, 12:41 PM
HID's FTW!!!! I wish I could get a set for the civic but my headlights are H1 but the bulbs are very short, Kinda like foglight bulbs I guess but the H1 HID's are alot longer and wont fit in my projector housing, Oh well
Nitro
04-16-2007, 01:01 PM
HID's FTW!!!! I wish I could get a set for the civic but my headlights are H1 but the bulbs are very short, Kinda like foglight bulbs I guess but the H1 HID's are alot longer and wont fit in my projector housing, Oh well
that sucks bro....
Nitro
04-23-2007, 10:30 PM
I think that's the same guy that raped my cat :mad:
:lmfao:
Z32redondo
04-23-2007, 11:41 PM
Anyone got a pic of the violt purple. Looking for something to go nicely with the Z
Nitro
06-15-2007, 11:39 AM
Anyone got a pic of the violt purple. Looking for something to go nicely with the Z
:D
Lucky DAWG
06-15-2007, 12:44 PM
nitro u noob
he sold the Z lol
hey is that green street legal?
it might be cool to wow a few people, i've for one never seen it
.blank cd
06-15-2007, 12:48 PM
I dont think he has green, and i doubt it would be street legal
Lucky DAWG
06-15-2007, 12:53 PM
I dont think he has green, and i doubt it would be street legal
i still need to meet ur ass, anymore meets coming up?
.blank cd
06-15-2007, 12:57 PM
Not that i can go to w/ work and all. but i still keep seein you on the street and shit
Nitro
06-15-2007, 01:25 PM
i can get green :yes: .........it does not fall under the auxillary light law so :D
Doppelgänger
06-15-2007, 01:54 PM
I still want some that are similar to the GT class car's amber headlights. The ones pictures on the 1st page almost look it, but are there any with more amber to them?
Kamikaze
06-15-2007, 01:58 PM
I still want some that are similar to the GT class car's amber headlights. The ones pictures on the 1st page almost look it, but are there any with more amber to them?
A lot of the time, the lenses on those cars are actually tinted yellow.
http://www.digitaldisplacement.com/wp-content/uploads/2006/05/risiferarri.jpg
Lucky DAWG
06-15-2007, 05:28 PM
Not that i can go to w/ work and all. but i still keep seein you on the street and shit
where'd u see me at this time?
u prob heard me this time, slapped on some new piping to the headers :crazy:
Bballjamal
06-15-2007, 09:36 PM
Yes, yellow tint is usually on those headlight housings! Violet purple and whatever the the blue Evo (Ct9aGSR?) had looked best to me! I'm fucking with ya soon nitro man!
.blank cd
06-16-2007, 01:38 AM
The Evos headlight lenses make em look purple when viewed at the right angle
.blank cd
06-16-2007, 01:39 AM
last time i seen you i think it was at the V
Nitro
06-16-2007, 01:48 AM
Yes, yellow tint is usually on those headlight housings! Violet purple and whatever the the blue Evo (Ct9aGSR?) had looked best to me! I'm fucking with ya soon nitro man!
:D +10 homie
sogood
06-16-2007, 01:56 AM
What's the huge attraction to 8000k + HIDs?
I've never understood it. My buddy that also has a Legend has an 8000k kit and I have a 5300k kit, the light output from my 5300k's is night and day brigher than his 8000k's.
.blank cd
06-16-2007, 01:59 AM
Nitro, i might be hittin you up soon. I want a 4300k kit, my buddy robbie is about to kill me for my 6000k set
Lucky DAWG
06-16-2007, 02:01 AM
last time i seen you i think it was at the V
u saw me at the official V meet?
why the fuck didn't you say hello? :tongue1:
GSRteg®
06-16-2007, 02:04 AM
Hey I need some HID's
Lucky DAWG
06-16-2007, 02:05 AM
Nitro, i might be hittin you up soon. I want a 4300k kit, my buddy robbie is about to kill me for my 6000k set
just get a new bulb
.blank cd
06-16-2007, 02:06 AM
u saw me at the official V meet?
why the fuck didn't you say hello? :tongue1:
cause u was pullin in when we was headin out. and i lost your #. gotta new phone and sim
.blank cd
06-16-2007, 02:07 AM
just get a new bulb
he dont sell them by the bulbs tho
xLSTONEx
06-16-2007, 02:09 AM
MY HIDs look good, of course I drive a lexus. But when you pay 51,XXX out of the show room in 97 you better get some good shit.
.blank cd
06-16-2007, 02:12 AM
MY HIDs look good, of course I drive a lexus. But when you pay 51,XXX out of the show room in 97 you better get some good shit.
didnt you buy your car used from someone?
Nitro
06-16-2007, 02:12 AM
Nitro, i might be hittin you up soon. I want a 4300k kit, my buddy robbie is about to kill me for my 6000k set
holla at me dawg!!!!
Chase so we on for sunday or what? i'm making an exception :rolleyes:
.blank cd
06-16-2007, 02:13 AM
MY HIDs look good, of course I drive a lexus. But when you pay 51,XXX out of the show room in 97 you better get some good shit.
and you live in Kennesaw, how come i dont ever see you around?
Nitro
06-16-2007, 02:17 AM
Hey I need some HID's
:whaasup:
JDMmuscle
06-16-2007, 02:26 AM
Nitro is the fucking man, flat out
from the little that iv delt with him hes seemed cool as fuck.
Nitro, hommie I WILL be hitting you up for the lights in 3 months when i get out hommie =)
JDMJAYDC2
06-16-2007, 04:58 PM
i have violet purple there really bright i dont remember what the K is but i fell for the trap of the higher the number the more light i thought it would put out but i like them should put out more light when i change to my jdm lights they have a better output than the stock usdm teg lights
Nitro
06-16-2007, 05:05 PM
Nitro is the fucking man, flat out
from the little that iv delt with him hes seemed cool as fuck.
Nitro, hommie I WILL be hitting you up for the lights in 3 months when i get out hommie =)
:bow: Well thank u sir!!!! +10 i keeps it real....
Nitro
06-18-2007, 02:09 PM
i have violet purple there really bright i dont remember what the K is but i fell for the trap of the higher the number the more light i thought it would put out but i like them should put out more light when i change to my jdm lights they have a better output than the stock usdm teg lights
we have all fell for the trap at some point......now u know :goodjob:
Nomad!
06-20-2007, 10:19 AM
He just selling kits he gets from AutoZone :tongue:
burke420
07-20-2007, 11:10 PM
my girl wants some HIDs when she changes her car..so ill hit yaa up!
white_rice
07-20-2007, 11:28 PM
lol my brother juhs got sum x5 projectors lol and is tryin 2 put it on his camry lo...(fukin ricer) we might need sum help cuhz all we got are the projectors
Nitro
07-24-2007, 11:50 AM
my girl wants some HIDs when she changes her car..so ill hit yaa up!
cool homie!!! :goodjob:
Nitro
08-03-2007, 07:06 AM
lol my brother juhs got sum x5 projectors lol and is tryin 2 put it on his camry lo...(fukin ricer) we might need sum help cuhz all we got are the projectors
:D hollaaaa
WickedIXMR
08-03-2007, 08:00 AM
hey is there a d4s size bulb kit yet?
Nitro
08-03-2007, 08:32 AM
hey is there a d4s size bulb kit yet?
:no:
These are what i can get........
81911SC
08-03-2007, 08:34 AM
Nitro is the shit when it comes to this. Truth told.
WickedIXMR
08-03-2007, 08:34 AM
:no:
These are what i can get........
Damn that sux well let me know when they make one, its for a is250 and those the lights turn when you turn the steering wheel so i guess thats why they havnt made them
Nomad!
08-03-2007, 10:37 AM
I can get the retro Model-T candle headlamps if anyone is interested :D
.blank cd
08-03-2007, 11:24 AM
Damn that sux well let me know when they make one, its for a is250 and those the lights turn when you turn the steering wheel so i guess thats why they havnt made them
Those are sweet. I saw it work on the lexus SUV when this lady started hers up. They do it on all the lexuses now dont they?
1SICKLEX
08-03-2007, 01:39 PM
ok i felt the need to post this.........due to some of the whinny asses on here & the constant bickering.
Please note: From time to time, I am asked to comment on what are marketed as "new developments" in HID kits, and those asking sometimes point out to me that these "new developments" might render this article out-of-date, since the copyright date on the article is older than the date of these "new developments". Please understand, marketeers will always be coming up with dazzling new pseudoscience, tempting new hype and sneaky new ways of trying to convince you to buy their stuff. It's what they do. This article will never go out of date, because the problems with HID kits are conceptual problems, not problems of implementation. Therefore, they cannot be overcome by additional research and development, any more than someone could develop a way for you to put on somebody else's eyeglasses and see correctly.
from a future customer & this was taken from a thread on our forum regarding HID's:
I'm not trying to na say the idea. I'm thinking about it too.
My guess is the difference between HID and halogen OE housings would come in the reflector then. Just a guess... All the different planes inside the reflector toss light in various directions. In the case of a halogen lamp, the reflector would attempt to make a certain amount of glare to spot signs and stuff off the road. HID reflectors keep glare at a minimum and focus light on the street. Often, a glass lens is used to magnify and direct the light, but it seems not in Subaru's case.
Another option is to use a cold temp. bulb. Like a 10K or something. Those seem a lot less intense. Or maybe a smaller watt HID bulb... I'd like to have a 8K kit myself. I'm interested in seeing how these turn out.
If you're running a projector style (06-07), as far as I know you're pretty much good to go. Those have a very precise beam and typically throw very little/no glare.
http://www.danielsternlighting.com/tech/bulbs/Hid/conversions/conversions.html
do your research folks........but remember it is your choice what route you take with your projects or how your money is spent...i do understand that some peoples budgets only allow for within reach mods or you having to settle for a set-up a little more within reason due to the cost of living or when it just basically comes down to priorities.<sp?> :ninja:
i hope this helps. ;)
Many people believe that the higher the colour temperature the brighter the lamp. This is totally wrong. The colour temperature is purely a scale to measure the colour of the light output and is measured on the graph shown as an X and Y coordinate. It is a reference purely for colour and could equally be called White , Green or Blue. The reality is the higher up the scale the lamps are the less bright they become. 4100K lamps are approx 20% brighter (measured in Lumens not degrees K) than the 6000K. If you want lighting performance the 4100K Philips lamps are the best on the market with 3500 lumen.
Degrees K = ONLY COLOUR
Lumen= BRIGHTNESS
Good post. I was blinded by 90% of the cars at the Varisty with HID kits as they slap them in housings not built for the light output.
Nitro
08-09-2007, 09:19 AM
:bump:
Nomad!
08-09-2007, 12:23 PM
^^^You were probably the one blinding him, jerk! :lmfao:
Sol-Badguy
08-09-2007, 12:57 PM
I has projectors from the factory. :goodjob:
Nitro
09-26-2007, 02:24 PM
ttt :D
osnap
09-26-2007, 03:18 PM
shit man i gotta remember to hit you up again soon... my JDM one-piece headlights are in the mail, and ive gotta set em off somehow! :goodjob:
3.5altman
09-26-2007, 04:53 PM
hids are the shit mang
thinkfast®
09-26-2007, 05:04 PM
WE'LL SEE ABOUT THAT :D
Nitro
09-26-2007, 11:11 PM
shit man i gotta remember to hit you up again soon... my JDM one-piece headlights are in the mail, and ive gotta set em off somehow! :goodjob:
fo-sho!!! :yes:
Nitro
10-27-2007, 11:42 AM
hids are the **** mang
:D ttt
tnomud
10-28-2007, 01:14 AM
Good post. I was blinded by 90% of the cars at the Varisty with HID kits as they slap them in housings not built for the light output.
that's why re-base kits are illegal and NHTSA is cracking down ;)
The Ren
10-28-2007, 01:22 AM
I love mine and they look ****ing amazing...
Sol-Badguy
10-28-2007, 12:09 PM
Factory projectors FTW!!
Even if I only have an Integra..
Nitro
02-24-2008, 10:56 PM
ttt
Nitro
03-13-2008, 10:37 AM
:bump:
Nitro
08-11-2008, 09:16 PM
:ninja:
Friggintitsman
08-11-2008, 09:19 PM
tl/fwi
slostang
08-11-2008, 09:21 PM
after I pay off my latest fast driving certificate, you will receive an order from me nitro.
Nitro
08-11-2008, 09:46 PM
after I pay off my latest fast driving certificate, you will receive an order from me nitro.
:lmfao:
LIKE OMG!!!!
:cheers:
Nitro
08-19-2008, 05:37 AM
Quoted from a member on here :cheers:
HIDs are a great upgrade for any car.
However, PLEASE take the time to make sure you're not blinding oncoming traffic since not all headlight assemblies are HID friendly. Basically you want something in between the HID bulb and the other car.
Projectors work extremely well with HID lamps btw.
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