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Nemesis
04-09-2007, 10:35 AM
So it was time for me to pick up a new PC and rather than building one I just went to the store and picked up an HP with these specs.

ntel® Core™2 Duo desktop processor E6400;
2GB DDR2 memory;
350GB HD.

Upgraded on board video card to the NVidia GeForce 8800GTS. (Yes I know its overkill , but I do some hardcore gaming on the PC, Plus I could use the extra power for photo processing)

Either way, the computer had Vista bundled in the package.

Upon first boot up, the PC takes almost 20 minutes to finalize and set itself up with Vista. It runs through a stupid performance self check to tell you if the computer can run it or not. So either way I finish it, and finally I look at the new Vista OS. Upon first glances and usage, I seee how the eye candy and nifty yet pointless Aero option can attract many people. It did for me , at least for the first day or two.

On my work PC and spare computer I run RedHat Enterprise Linux 5. Great stable OS, and I love it. Im an avid user of GAIM as well. I installed GAIM on Vista with all of the necessary GNU packages. Load times were slow for such a low resource hogging chat program. I was unfortunatly forced to use AIM Triton :rolleyes: . So anyways, on to other things. I decided it was time to load Photoshop CS2, and a few other programs. Photoshop CS2 works with Vista, but its very buggy and very slow on a Vista machine. There were times Id leave the computer up for 24 hours with a few programs running only to return to it with multiple RunDll32 errors to greet me on the screen.

Video Card Problems. Upon getting ready to install the video card, I follow directions and get ready to upload drivers, when yep you guessed it, the drivers arent compatible with Vista. I have to hit up Nvidias site to download a vista compliant set. After doing so, everything is fine. Now my dad runs 4 24 inch Widescreen Dells at home. He also runs the same system as I do. Now, in order for him to run 4 monitors at the same hes running a dual Nvidia SLI set up with 4 DVI ports. However, vista doesnt support the WDDM drivers needed to use this capability.

So I installed XP back on the machine.

So a really sugarcoated and buggy OS gets deleted and the drive gets formatted. After tha install I notice PC boot time almost cut in half. Ive only had a chance to install a few programs, including GAIM and Firefox, and my Nvidia drivers but everything is rocking at amazingly faster speeds than before.


Yay for XP w/SP2


Comments thoughts?

Crazy Asian
04-09-2007, 10:44 AM
Im never buying Vista till I give a year or two to work out kinks. Dont every buy a new comp with Vista yet. The worst possible stupidest mistake youll ever make. Sometime's the video card, mem, even the hard drive wont run right. I have XP with SP2 and Im fine with it. I dont care if it's 3d....Im waiting for microsoft to work out the bugs.

Nemesis
04-09-2007, 10:48 AM
Im never buying Vista till I give a year or two to work out kinks. Dont every buy a new comp with Vista yet. The worst possible stupidest mistake youll ever make. Sometime's the video card, mem, even the hard drive wont run right. I have XP with SP2 and Im fine with it. I dont care if it's 3d....Im waiting for microsoft to work out the bugs.


Buying a new PC without vista is easier said than done.

PhAtBoYMr2
04-09-2007, 10:48 AM
I haven't really heard anything good about vista although i have never used it before so i can't say anything bad....But i heard that there is a patch on vista that if you play .mp3 files that are copywrighted or burned that windows media player won't work anymore?

dunno

Crazy Asian
04-09-2007, 10:51 AM
Yep that's right. They got something in there that wont let you burn copyrighted music or something along the line. Most of the comp place I talk to Vista says they never want to deal with it. EVER. They rather work on XP then that.

Sol-Badguy
04-09-2007, 12:20 PM
GAIM=:no:

Trillian = :yes:

Glad you finally ditched the fancy.

Mr_Mischif
04-09-2007, 04:42 PM
Why do you not use linux? Photoshop can run under wine.

ironchef
04-09-2007, 06:32 PM
Still had 0 problems with vista, no long load times on anything, runs about as fast if not faster than xp. Although it uses more ram, but I've got 2 gig, so I got room to spare.

ueyedgr8tness
04-09-2007, 06:58 PM
Oh i game alot 2 we just built another beast with that some card in it.But mine has the 7900gtx -OC i love it i play css 24/7 and have my own clan and website...Oh and server.

Kamikaze
04-09-2007, 06:59 PM
I haven't heard good or bad from consumers about Vista. It's still kinda in the gray area.

phongt12
04-09-2007, 08:31 PM
I sell Vista laptops at my workplace. One thing is certain though, the new interface sucks! It's geared towards people who like pretty things and are too dumb and/or lazy to figure out how Windows works. Everything runs alot slower. Hell, I even run Windows XP with the Windows 98 menus.

Performance > Pretty Menus

Clegger
04-09-2007, 08:38 PM
its going to keep getting harder and harder to download free music/movies as well as burn them. Its gonna be one of those things were we go

"When I was your age it used to be free to use the internet" (netzero ftw back in the day)

green91
04-09-2007, 08:49 PM
I bought a new toshiba and put XP back on it. Vista FTL.

RiceBoy
04-09-2007, 08:53 PM
I hate Vista. I wished I never installed it. None of the shit I have are compatible. Everytime I play a DIVX movie, damn window pops up saying shit. :(.

Jecht
04-09-2007, 09:06 PM
PLEASE TELL EVERYONE YOU KNOW TO NEVER USE/PURCHASE WINDOWS VISTA. I want to see all software with integrated copyright management to FAIL. Its basically taking away your freedom to play with any copyrighted digital media. If we (the consumers) support software like this, we are giving up our freedom, bit by bit.

green91
04-09-2007, 10:01 PM
Linux FTW. I hope they get a simplified GUI worked out for the mainstream to accept!

SleeperWRX
04-09-2007, 10:15 PM
Vista Sucks Ass, Soo many bugs its not even cool

b17a1db2
04-09-2007, 10:24 PM
i'm using it, seem fine for now..even though i'm still suspicious of it..

Rican219
04-10-2007, 01:04 PM
Windows 3.1 FTW!!!

Nemesis
04-10-2007, 01:10 PM
Windows 3.1 FTW!!!


No! Windows 3.11 !!!

BB6dohcvtec
04-18-2007, 10:59 PM
I have vista on my new laptop it runs just as good as xp to me......I like vista i don't download music on this tho don't wanna use up all the space with music/movies and stuff that why i still have my old desktop in the study for downloading music and movies only really lol.

Mr_S13®
04-19-2007, 10:11 PM
I have vista, and I dl music, and movies. I have not had any problems with it at all. The only thing I have not liked about it is all the pop ups asking if your sure you wanna do stuff. It ask you on almost everything.

2Fast4Radar
04-22-2007, 09:06 PM
I built a media center computer that's running Vista Ultimate and running to my bigscreen via a DVI to HDMI cable and I'm very happy with it and it's been very stable. To date I haven't had any problems with hardware issues. Usually if you buy good/quality hardware there's ample support for it. I'm not running anything fancy - Asus board with Nvidia chipset and AMD X2 processor, an NVidia 6200tc (fanless to keep things quiet), and a 380w Antec PS that came with the media center case.

One thing I will say for Vista is if you have shitty hardware it will show it by running like ass. I went with a WD 400GB harddrive with 16mb cache. It's not Raptor speed, but it gets the job done. I left 1GB memory out to see how it would run until I put the full 2GB in and it made a HUGE difference. Memory and HD performance are crucial in Vista to make it run well. And if you are stuck using many of the onboard videocards that big-box companies have loved to use in the past because they were super cheap to build (read: Dell, e-Machine, etc) you might not be able to ever run the Aero features in Vista. I've seen a quite a few Dells that had no AGP or PCI-e 16X recently.

My guess is Microsoft put the performance indexing into Vista to show people if the computer they were getting was really any good. I can't imagine how poorly those $299 and $399 computers Dell was pumping out perform in the benchmarking.

Flip
04-22-2007, 09:29 PM
GAIM=:no:

Trillian = :yes:

Glad you finally ditched the fancy.

Trillian does not run on linux...

sirkus
04-22-2007, 11:00 PM
I wanna go back to XP.. but I can't get my god damn RAID 0 to work with it. Drivers won't load while XP is trying to install. I really don't like Vista...

I'm really tired of trying to run some applications (cracks, trainers) and they're not compatible. I also have a huge collection of music (120gigs) and I used to run a program to catalog my music... it doesnt work with vista. They give you the worst media player known to man.. I'd rather use Real media player.
Honestly.. I think it'll be a while until I'm happy with it.

osnap
04-22-2007, 11:48 PM
i hate being the cliche fanboy but um...

OS X ftmfw! i love the shit out of my macbook.

HOWEVER, i also like my ubuntu PC at home, so there ya go... im well rounded. I just fucking hate windows

Extrememustang
04-23-2007, 12:24 AM
Never buy anything when it first comes out. Remember the first xbox? Overheating and the first ps2, power supplys melting.

Turbo04
04-23-2007, 01:29 AM
I'm running Vista Ultimate 64bit version and I can't be happier. System is:

AMD x2 3800+
BFG Nforce4 Ultra Mobo
2gb pc2700 Ram ( I need to upgrade it to 3200 that the x2 supports)
BFG 7600GT O/C
160gb and a 80gb Hd.

I was hesitant to upgrade to it, and I wouldn't have if I had to buy it. But my dad had a spare copy he gave me, so I figured hey couldn't hurt. I personaly like the pop ups, lets me know what is going on in the comp. The only thing I don't like is apple is not currently supporting cd burning through itunes with this, but thats not really Vista's fault. Runs all my apps perfectly, and it is way "prettier" then xp. Memory needs to be there in abundance though but I'm just gonna upgrade to the 4gb when I feel like it. As it sits it does everything I want/need it to.

atlantamx3
05-08-2007, 09:33 AM
I sell Vista laptops at my workplace. One thing is certain though, the new interface sucks! It's geared towards people who like pretty things and are too dumb and/or lazy to figure out how Windows works. Everything runs alot slower. Hell, I even run Windows XP with the Windows 98 menus.

Performance > Pretty Menus

I am glad I am not the only one doing this! LOL