Scion Thread

[CRISPYXB]

Sorry I am new didnt see anything for Scions so I figured I would start one.

[Kamikaze]

I own a Scion...for the time being. :D

[Dr Tweak]

I make Scions go fast...:dunno:

[Alan®]

I make Scions go fast...:dunno:
do you reall now what has everyone done to their scions in here???

[aaronfelipe]

Doubt it.

[Sport1.3]

Doubt it.

He has done a 3sgte swap to a celica...thats pretty decent.

Hey Tweak what all have you done with Scions.....i know you claim to be a Toyota Guru......any good with the 4ag?

[Ltdnismorace]

my buddy's fiance has a fairly nice scion, I'll try to get some pictures of it and post them.

[Dr Tweak]

He has done a 3sgte swap to a celica...thats pretty decent.

Hey Tweak what all have you done with Scions.....i know you claim to be a Toyota Guru......any good with the 4ag?

I think you need to pay a visit to my website:

http://www.phoenixtuning.com/

:)

-Doc

[Sport1.3]

I think you need to pay a visit to my website:

http://www.phoenixtuning.com/

:)

-Doc

Are you Dr Tweak on MR2OC.com as well? i think you've done quite a bit of harness work on MR2's for 20v swaps.....i just completed mine not too long ago!!

[00CelicaGT]

i have the older brother of a scion (CELICA) lol

[CRISPYXB]

Dr. Tweak, what kind of swap can I do with my xB. Really wanna do one.

[Dr Tweak]

Are you Dr Tweak on MR2OC.com as well? i think you've done quite a bit of harness work on MR2's for 20v swaps.....i just completed mine not too long ago!!

The one and only! :D Yes, I've done several of those swaps and countless harnesses.



Dr. Tweak, what kind of swap can I do with my xB. Really wanna do one.


It depends on how far you want to take it. As a basic swap, I would probably recommend a 4AGE Blacktop (170hp)

-Doc

[CRISPYXB]

How much am I looking at for that? Is a direct bolt in kit or will I have to do alot of cutting?

[Dr Tweak]

We would have to make you custom mounts and axles, but there wouldn't be any cutting of the frame or anything. You're probably looking at $2000 for the labor on the conversion, that engine set is around $1800 plus $350 for shipping, custom axles and mounts will be around $600, misc items I set aside $500, and then you want to think about what you want to do with the exhaust (we do custom stainless mandrel-bent exhaust here) so you may want to do that at the same time, and lastly, I recommend having us do a full reseal/timing belt/tuneup on the new engine before it goes in. So a whole swap would cost somewhere between $5000 and $7000, depending on what upgrades you choose and whatnot.

-Doc

-Doc

[CRISPYXB]

Sounds good. I would have to come down there, due to the fact I live in Az. But I would most definitly want to do this. I would love to have the fasted xB in Az. Would this engine fit a turbo too. Or will the engine compartment be pretty full after the swap.

[Dr Tweak]

I'm sure we could work a turbo system out. :)

[Kyle]

the TC's 2AZFE motor will outboost/outpower your 1.8T on stock internals anyday of the week. Granted it has a .6liter advantage but none the less quite a bad ass little motor and completely overbuilt. The car is also physically lighter then your Golf aswell......so dont count it out in the handling department too soon either....they arent horrible cars....they are just Toyota's economy based division....you get what you pay for :D
Are you saying that boosted the motor is more powerful? Its not boosted though. If so you are comparing two different things. And if so we can talk about boosting vw's 2.8liter.

If you are simply talkinga about that car stock vs. a GTI 1.8T stock then you are mistaken my friend.

Because 180hp>157hp every day of the week. And with 2k in mods done to each car the GTI will own the TC.

And the weight difference is not large at all, the scion is 2905 lbs. and the GTI is 2932lbs. Not a big deal.

[Sport1.3]

Are you saying that boosted the motor is more powerful? Its not boosted though. If so you are comparing two different things. And if so we can talk about boosting vw's 2.8liter.

If you are simply talkinga about that car stock vs. a GTI 1.8T stock then you are mistaken my friend.

Because 180hp>157hp every day of the week. And with 2k in mods done to each car the GTI will own the TC.

And the weight difference is not large at all, the scion is 2905 lbs. and the GTI is 2932lbs. Not a big deal.


Yes boosted it has much more potential then the VW I4 no doubt ab it. its not really comparing 2 seperate things when you are speaking of the power potential of each motor. Sure the VR6 can make more power, it has 2 extra cylinders :crazy: ...we are comparing your car to a TC

well if you want to get technical, the factory rated the TC at 160hp/163tq and your 1.8t in the 2001 model year was rated at 150hp/155tq respectively...so i dont see your arguement there....infact the TC has you beat, and N/A at that..also if you're wanting to argue the 2002 1.8t and its 180hp rating, Toyota offers a factory standered option of a TRD supercharger for a small sum of $3000 added to the sticker price of the car....it retains the factory warranty and adds (with a small amount of boost) ~50+ hp. so 160>150 and 210>180, any day of the week! :D

Straight from car and driver in 2001: "The GTI feels faster than it really is, however. Zero to 60 mph takes 8.5 seconds, and the quarter-mile arrives in a leisurely 16.5 seconds at 84.3 mph" The TC does the 1/4 BONE STOCK in 15.7 (as tested by Sport compact car) and 0-60 takes almost a second less at 7.8 secs.....so you lose here too :thinking:

shall i go on?

[Dr Tweak]

Ouch... mad ownage right there!

STOP THE KILLING! STOP THE KILLING!

LOL

-Doc

[Kyle]

Yes boosted it has much more potential then the VW I4 no doubt ab it. its not really comparing 2 seperate things when you are speaking of the power potential of each motor. Sure the VR6 can make more power, it has 2 extra cylinders :crazy: ...we are comparing your car to a TC

well if you want to get technical, the factory rated the TC at 160hp/163tq and your 1.8t in the 2001 model year was rated at 150hp/155tq respectively...so i dont see your arguement there....infact the TC has you beat, and N/A at that..also if you're wanting to argue the 2002 1.8t and its 180hp rating, Toyota offers a factory standered option of a TRD supercharger for a small sum of $3000 added to the sticker price of the car....it retains the factory warranty and adds (with a small amount of boost) ~50+ hp. so 160>150 and 210>180, any day of the week! :D

Straight from car and driver in 2001: "The GTI feels faster than it really is, however. Zero to 60 mph takes 8.5 seconds, and the quarter-mile arrives in a leisurely 16.5 seconds at 84.3 mph" The TC does the 1/4 BONE STOCK in 15.7 (as tested by Sport compact car) and 0-60 takes almost a second less at 7.8 secs.....so you lose here too :thinking:

shall i go on?
You can't compare boosting an unboosted car with boosting a boosted car even more.

Okay...

The 2001 was a transition year. They changed the turbo and compression ratio mid year. They went from a K03 for the 2001 to a K03s for the 2001.5. They produced 150hp throughout the year though.

Then if we are talking mods. A few small mods and a chip will make the 2001.5 1.8T GTI run high 13's in the quarter and make over 200whp.

Also you are comparing a 2001 with a 2004.

If you compare it to the 2004 GTI the scion still loses. The GTI has 180hp and it runs 0-60 in 6.5 seconds.

[Sport1.3]

You can't compare boosting an unboosted car with boosting a boosted car even more.

Okay...

The 2001 was a transition year. They changed the turbo and compression ratio mid year. They went from a K03 for the 2001 to a K03s for the 2001.5. They produced 150hp throughout the year though.

Then if we are talking mods. A few small mods and a chip will make the 2001.5 1.8T GTI run high 13's in the quarter and make over 200whp.

Also you are comparing a 2001 with a 2004.

If you compare it to the 2004 GTI the scion still loses. The GTI has 180hp and it runs 0-60 in 6.5 seconds.


Actually i am comparing the motors performance potential as a whole compared to your 1.8t...so its relavent

even if you were to compare the 2004, the scion still optioned out has an available TRD supercharger giving it more power. 212 according to TRD (193whp dyno proven)..YES THIS IS FROM THE DEALER...NOT AN AFTERMARKET PART. Thats all still under $20K...which the 2004 1.8t cant touch.

If you then wanna add mods to your VW, a $110 NST (9.5psi-10psi) pulley and a decent open custom exhaust job can get the TC into the 250+whp range easy and with a good driver be dipping in the 13's as well

Dont get me wrong, i do like the Golf, but your arguement is a losing one. The TC has your model year Golf beat in almost ever performance aspect stock for stock and even heavily modified. My point was dont hate on other ppls rides before you know what you're talkin ab...others shouldnt hate on your ride either

and i'm def not hating because mine in its present state is too old and much slower then both said cars bone stock :lmfao:

[Kyle]

I hesitate to make an argument solely on performance. Thats not the reason I hate Scions. I hate scions because they are a youth division, they have lame "aftermarket" accesories that you buy straight from the dealerhsip. I find the whole customization from the factory thing :gay: . The marketing scheme is lame as well.

I have my reasons to hate scions.

Actually i am comparing the motors performance potential as a whole compared to your 1.8t...so its relavent
Okay but of all the Mk4 GTI's...stock mine is the worst. No question about it.


even if you were to compare the 2004, the scion still optioned out has an available TRD supercharger giving it more power. 212 according to TRD (193whp dyno proven)..YES THIS IS FROM THE DEALER...NOT AN AFTERMARKET PART. Thats all still under $20K...which the 2004 1.8t cant touch.
Okay. Well if you want to compare my GTI to a 20K scion go ahead. If I put the same kind of aftermarket in it, probably less I will make 200+whp. So I can definately touch that.

The prices are a completely different story.They are much different cars. And the GTI is more money for a reason. Also VW doesnt have an affiliated division for the GTI like TRD. We have Volkswagen Racing but they do nothing basically.



Dont get me wrong, i do like the Golf, but your arguement is a losing one. The TC has your model year Golf beat in almost ever performance aspect stock for stock and even heavily modified. My point was dont hate on other ppls rides before you know what you're talkin ab...others shouldnt hate on your ride either

and i'm def not hating because mine in its present state is too old and much slower then both said cars bone stock :lmfao:
Its not a losing one. I am not arguing that my year GTI is faster stock. You are comparing a 2004 scion to the bastard child of stock MK4 GTI's.

My car is obviously less expensive than a 04 Scion TC. If I invested the difference in mods, I would rape a TC.

So here are the scenarios:

Stock 2001.5 GTI 1.8T vs. 2004 Scion TC- Scion tC wins

2001.5 GTI 1.8T vs. TC with 3k in mods- GTI wins

Stock 2004 GTI vs. Stock 2004 Scion TC- GTI wins

2004 GTI with 3k in mods vs. TC with 3k in mods- GTI wins

That is the performance. If you want to talk about doing a scion and adding forced induction compare it to a GTI with a turbo upgrade. A GTI with a bigger turbo such as a GT28 will make 260+whp.

[Sport1.3]

Okay. Well if you want to compare my GTI to a 20K scion go ahead. If I put the same kind of aftermarket in it, probably less I will make 200+whp. So I can definately touch that.

The prices are a completely different story.They are much different cars. And the GTI is more money for a reason. Also VW doesnt have an affiliated division for the GTI like TRD. We have Volkswagen Racing but they do nothing basically.


Its not a losing one. I am not arguing that my year GTI is faster stock. You are comparing a 2004 scion to the bastard child of stock MK4 GTI's.

My car is obviously less expensive than a 04 Scion TC. If I invested the difference in mods, I would rape a TC.

So here are the scenarios:

Stock 2001.5 GTI 1.8T vs. 2004 Scion TC- Scion tC wins

2001.5 GTI 1.8T vs. TC with 3k in mods- GTI wins

Stock 2004 GTI vs. Stock 2004 Scion TC- GTI wins

2004 GTI with 3k in mods vs. TC with 3k in mods- GTI wins

That is the performance. If you want to talk about doing a scion and adding forced induction compare it to a GTI with a turbo upgrade. A GTI with a bigger turbo such as a GT28 will make 260+whp.


I said Under $20K, which when your car was new wasnt even close to that sticker. The Supercharged TC can be had for around $18-19K...the base model is $15,500 brand new! Thats what i meant as in you couldnt touch it for the price.

The VW is more money because its German, and you are paying for the name brand as well no doubt a heep of options the TC doesnt even offer.

You may think its gay to have a Dealer equiped performance part on your car, but every other Company is doing it, from GM to Dodge to Mazda, toyota etc.....just because VW is denying their customers warrantied aftermarket parts/dealer options isnt an excuse to hate them all together...look at what GM and dodge are doing with theirs.....they are making HUGE POWER!!!

Your car in 2001 brand new wasnt anywhere close to a TC's price so there would be no left over..the TC in 2004 was $15k base....a 2001 GTI in 2004 would have still sold for more then that lol

So here are the scenarios:

Stock 2001.5 GTI 1.8T vs. 2004 Scion TC- Scion tC wins AGREE

2001.5 GTI 1.8T vs. TC with 3k in mods- GTI wins Partially agree, depends on mods ($2795 JSC speed turbo kit with an 18g makes just over 270-280whp @12psi...with tuning and an aftermarket exhaust (yes thats with stock catback) its easily in the 300's)

Stock 2004 GTI vs. Stock 2004 Scion TC- GTI wins WRONG how can you say that when i had already proved this wrong in my last post....the TC is stock with a Supercharger if so equiped.....its faster then a 04 in everyway???

2004 GTI with 3k in mods vs. TC with 3k in mods- GTI wins Partially agree.....but i still say the TC would be close to if not just as fast as the 04


either way my point has been proven.....i'm really not tryin to turn this debate into an arguement and or a magazine ricer war lol. Either the VW or the Scion are both nice cars and deserve their props for what they bring to the table

[Sport1.3]

What is your reason for hating scions so much anyway? i mean i dont own one, nor do i plan on it...but why all the hate towards the brand....just because its youth oriented??

[Kyle]

I said Under $20K, which when your car was new wasnt even close to that sticker. The Supercharged TC can be had for around $18-19K...the base model is $15,500 brand new! Thats what i meant as in you couldnt touch it for the price.

The VW is more money because its German, and you are paying for the name brand as well no doubt a heep of options the TC doesnt even offer.

You may think its gay to have a Dealer equiped performance part on your car, but every other Company is doing it, from GM to Dodge to Mazda, toyota etc.....just because VW is denying their customers warrantied aftermarket parts/dealer options isnt an excuse to hate them all together...look at what GM and dodge are doing with theirs.....they are making HUGE POWER!!!

Your car in 2001 brand new wasnt anywhere close to a TC's price so there would be no left over..the TC in 2004 was $15k base....a 2001 GTI in 2004 would have still sold for more then that lol

So here are the scenarios:

Stock 2001.5 GTI 1.8T vs. 2004 Scion TC- Scion tC wins AGREE

2001.5 GTI 1.8T vs. TC with 3k in mods- GTI wins Partially agree, depends on mods ($2795 JSC speed turbo kit with an 18g makes just over 270-280whp @12psi...with tuning and an aftermarket exhaust (yes thats with stock catback) its easily in the 300's)

Stock 2004 GTI vs. Stock 2004 Scion TC- GTI wins WRONG how can you say that when i had already proved this wrong in my last post....the TC is stock with a Supercharger if so equiped.....its faster then a 04 in everyway???

2004 GTI with 3k in mods vs. TC with 3k in mods- GTI wins Partially agree.....but i still say the TC would be close to if not just as fast as the 04


either way my point has been proven.....i'm really not tryin to turn this debate into an arguement and or a magazine ricer war lol. Either the VW or the Scion are both nice cars and deserve their props for what they bring to the table

First I am comparing the used price of my car to that of a scion. Moving on.......

Your original claims were all about the power of the REGULAR NA TC. Now all of the sudden its all about the supercharged? You posted the numbers of a REGULAR TC I posted the numbers of a REGULAR GTI 1.8T. And the GTI won. So how are you saying you disproved my statement? You posted a 7.something 0-60 and I posted a 6.5 0-60.

Thats not a fair comparison as the 1.8T is the base motor in the GTI as the NA motor is the base in the scion. Then maybe we can compare it to the nicest scion, the supercharged version, to the nicest GTI, the R32.

Also modding is all relative ya know. It just depends hard to tell what would win because different people do different things. So we will throw that out of the argument.

[Kyle]

What is your reason for hating scions so much anyway? i mean i dont own one, nor do i plan on it...but why all the hate towards the brand....just because its youth oriented??
haha.

Well the concept of a youth division is just horrible IMO. I hate the designs of all of their cars. The xb is aerodynamically retarded. Its a brick. The tc just looks weird to me. Its something about the side of the car.

Also I have yet to see a clean scion. All the xb's that I have seen modified are RICE. The tc's are generally rice and the people that drive them are lame IMO. All the scion owners I know are tools. Thats only like 3 people, so its a unfair generalization I suppose. And all the modified tc's I have seen drive like ricers.

[Kyle]

Also my friends were at the toyota dealership and they were selling a supercharged tc for $30,000 at the dealership.

Page 3 is mine BTW.

[Kamikaze]

Also my friends were at the toyota dealership (#) and they were selling a supercharged tc for $30,000 at the dealership.

Page 3 is mine BTW.

Lol someone lied to you. Either that or some dealer was trying to take advantage of a naive buyer.

[Kamikaze]

Also I have yet to see a clean scion (#). All the xb's that I have seen modified are RICE. The tc's are generally rice and the people that drive them are lame IMO. All the scion owners I know are tools. Thats only like 3 people, so its a unfair generalization I suppose. And all the modified tc's I have seen drive like ricers.

With a mindset like that, it's a good thing Tech doesn't do interviews. :rolleyes:

You hang around rice boys, then you're gonna see rice. Hang around real car enthusiasts that have some taste, and you'll see show winning cars. It's as simple as that.

[Kyle]

With a mindset like that, it's a good thing Tech doesn't do interviews. :rolleyes:

You hang around rice boys, then you're gonna see rice. Hang around real car enthusiasts that have some taste, and you'll see show winning cars. It's as simple as that.
That's not a mindset, I am saying from the scions I have seen modified they are all rice. I am not saying ever scion is rice, but the ones I have seen are.

I do hang around real car enthusiasts. Every week. Those ricers are just people who went to my high school. I didnt hang around any of them, I just saw them at school.

[Alan®]

i dont see how you can call the tC rice. when basically every car made now is basically rice. imho the tc's have for more potentioal than anybody gives them. my neighbor bought his tC bone stock and has since gotten the treadstone kit and a zpi turbo back exhaust. on street tires he ran 13.8 and beat anthony in his s.c. mustang the first time out at the SELOC/3S track day so theres your 3k. for 3k he got the entire turbo kit with 9lbs boost spring and is puting down over 260whp and has the potential to run mid to low 13's on drag radials and a stage two clutch personally a boosted tC will out perform a GTI with 3k mods in as i have driven a GTI and it really is slower than it feels. and i have raced a stock GTI and smoked it. its better than a straight line and better around the track. everyone has there own taste but personaly i dont see how you can come into another forum and sit here and beligerntly hate on someones car go back to GDM forums and stay out if you have nothing constructive to say other than to bas people for owning a scion

[Kyle]

i dont see how you can call the tC rice. when basically every car made now is basically rice. imho the tc's have for more potentioal than anybody gives them. my neighbor bought his tC bone stock and has since gotten the treadstone kit and a zpi turbo back exhaust. on street tires he ran 13.8 and beat anthony in his s.c. mustang the first time out at the SELOC/3S track day so theres your 3k. for 3k he got the entire turbo kit with 9lbs boost spring and is puting down over 260whp and has the potential to run mid to low 13's on drag radials and a stage two clutch personally a boosted tC will out perform a GTI with 3k mods in as i have driven a GTI and it really is slower than it feels. and i have raced a stock GTI and smoked it. its better than a straight line and better around the track. everyone has there own taste but personaly i dont see how you can come into another forum and sit here and beligerntly hate on someones car go back to GDM forums and stay out if you have nothing constructive to say other than to bas people for owning a scion
Okay well I never called the tC rice. I am saying that the ones I have seen modified have been riced out. That is not saying all modified scions are rice. I am sure there are some nice ones, but I am saying I have yet to see any.

Someone made the comparison of my car to a tC so we talked about that for a while. I didnt come in and say GTI owns tC bishes. Thats not how it happened.

I do however admit I dislike scion as I have said.

Yeah the only GTI you can smoke is an 99-01 1.8T...stock. All the others will beat the tC.

I didnt bash people for owning them. I didnt say just because you own one your a ricer or anything like that.

[Kamikaze]

I didnt bash people for owning them. I didnt say just because you own one your a ricer or anything like that.


The tc's are generally rice and the people that drive them are lame IMO. All the scion owners I know are tools.

:thinking:

[Kyle]

:thinking:
Thanks for the cut and paste. But by doing that you take the statement out of context. Re-read it please.


Also I have yet to see a clean scion. All the xb's that I have seen modified are RICE. The tc's are generally rice and the people that drive them are lame IMO. All the scion owners I know are tools. Thats only like 3 people, so its a unfair generalization I suppose. And all the modified tc's I have seen drive like ricers.
Note that my statement was saying the ones I have seen. I didn't say all scion owners are lame. I said the ones I see are generally rice.

[Sport1.3]

Also my friends were at the toyota dealership and they were selling a supercharged tc for $30,000 at the dealership.

Page 3 is mine BTW.

My roomate bought his for 21,500. He has every available option for it too though. He got it brand new 2005. the Base model in MT can be had with the TRD suspension and supercharger option for under 20k..its the Enkei wheels, leather interior, upgraded sound system, factory tint, power everything, etc that kills the price.....I have no clue why they would be selling it for $30k....they are def ripping somebody off....if there is someoen dumb enough to pay that much

[Sport1.3]

.

Someone made the comparison of my car to a tC so we talked about that for a while. I didnt come in and say GTI owns tC bishes. Thats not how it happened.

yeah guys me and Kyle were just comparing/debating the 2 brands...no big deal. He doesnt like the TC, who cares....there are plenty of cars i cant stand lol....*RX8, Matrix, Beetle, Accord, etc"... its all personal opinion. Still though for every car i hate, there is someone out there thats into them and can pull off a clean version....so i'll always give props to ppl for being different

[Kyle]

My roomate bought his for 21,500. He has every available option for it too though. He got it brand new 2005. the Base model in MT can be had with the TRD suspension and supercharger option for under 20k..its the Enkei wheels, leather interior, upgraded sound system, factory tint, power everything, etc that kills the price.....I have no clue why they would be selling it for $30k....they are def ripping somebody off....if there is someoen dumb enough to pay that much
I couldn't believe the $30K sticker. I had two friends there one of which is a mod on here.


yeah guys me and Kyle were just comparing/debating the 2 brands...no big deal. He doesnt like the TC, who cares....there are plenty of cars i cant stand lol....*RX8, Matrix, Beetle, Accord, etc"... its all personal opinion. Still though for every car i hate, there is someone out there thats into them and can pull off a clean version....so i'll always give props to ppl for being different

:goodjob: Yeah this is nothing personal to any of you. We were comparing the two cars. Simply a friendly debate. Glad to see we are on the same page Sport20.

And I have a lot of respect for toyota in general. The Supra, FJ, Land Cruiser, Tundra, Mr2(until the current generation), etc. They are all well made, but I do not like the idea of them branching off into a new division. That's all guys.

[CRISPYXB]

:lmfao:


The design of the xB seems to be based on the shape of a brick.



HMMMM!!!!
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[CRISPYXB]

I totally understand Kyle. Either you hate Scions or you love them. There really in no in between. I didnt mean to sound like a dick. I am just messing around and enjoying the contraversy. Fun Times. Trouce

[Kyle]

Thats straight. And that is one of the ugliest GTIs I have seen in a while. Looks like pep boys had a clearance on rims. That ish is gross.

Here are some better examples for ya.
Meh car.
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[Alan®]

$30k????its not brent is it hes the only guy that i know that paid that much for his. and personally if you pay $30k for a tC you are retarded for 30k you coulda had a 350z or a evo even

[Kyle]

$30k????its not brent is it hes the only guy that i know that paid that much for his. and personally if you pay $30k for a tC you are retarded for 30k you coulda had a 350z or a evo even
I know it could. They were asking the salesmen why would I pay $30K for this when I could get an STI or EVO? I dont think he had a good answer. Most salespeople know the features of cars they are selling but thats about it.

[Alan®]

i know right man i want to work at a dealership in sales ive got sales experience i just turned 18 i wounder if anyone would hire me i could sell some damn cars man.

[Kyle]

i know right man i want to work at a dealership in sales ive got sales experience i just turned 18 i wounder if anyone would hire me i could sell some damn cars man.
Try Gossett volkswagen. They will hire anyone. Probably the worst experience I have ever had with a dealer. The salespeople actually called me on my autotrader ad for my car and convinced me that they could give me what I wanted, then offer me $4k less than I was asking.

[bigdare23]

HMMMM!!!!
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Kyle he got you LOL +1

[HalfBaked]

There is this brown scion XB I see all the time, hot as fuck.

Has HREs and fucking sick ass brakes.

[Sport1.3]

There is this brown scion XB I see all the time, hot as fuck.

Has HREs and fucking sick ass brakes.


Pics?

[HalfBaked]

Pics?
I don't have any. If I see it again I'll take some, this car is super hot.

Me and rupertaker did a u-turn to look at it one day.

[EP3sAreFun]

haha.

Well the concept of a youth division is just horrible IMO. I hate the designs of all of their cars. The xb is aerodynamically retarded. Its a brick. The tc just looks weird to me. Its something about the side of the car.

Also I have yet to see a clean scion. All the xb's that I have seen modified are RICE. The tc's are generally rice and the people that drive them are lame IMO. All the scion owners I know are tools. Thats only like 3 people, so its a unfair generalization I suppose. And all the modified tc's I have seen drive like ricers.

You are not the general market. Scions sell very well, and the dealer only does a handful of Scion parts. the Xb is based off a concept called a micro-van. Which has been sold overseas for many years and has had the same success as coupes and sedans. You don't know many Scion people, so your right, bad generalization. some of them are not losers although admittedly some are.

The Scions are not performance cars, but, heh, neither is yours.

this is what the next TC is supposed to look like, supposedly
http://www.japanesecarswatch.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/01/07_tcrs30_450.jpg

[Kyle]

The Scions are not performance cars, but, heh, neither is yours.

:cry: I know.

[Sport1.3]

:cry: I know.


MINE IS!!!! .....or was...........in the 80's............ :(

[Kamikaze]

this is what the next TC is supposed to look like, supposedly
http://www.japanesecarswatch.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/01/07_tcrs30_450.jpg

That's not the "new" tC. That's just the Release Series 3.0 version. The main difference is the Kenstyle lip kit. I believe the tC won't be redesigned until the 2009 model year.

[Kamikaze]

Here's a few shots from a show our club (Scinergy of Georgia) participated in...

http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e364/mazda_pimpin626/HankAaronShow006e.jpg
http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e364/mazda_pimpin626/HankAaronShow004e.jpg
http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e364/mazda_pimpin626/HankAaronShow003e.jpg

There are way more people in the club but I took pics too early and when I went to take more, my battery was dead.

[Alan®]

i was at the scinergy meet in february with my tCSP we will be at the ABKS show this weekend

[Kamikaze]

i was at the scinergy meet in february with my tCSP we will be at the ABKS show this weekend

I'll be there...but I probably won't enter.

[Alan®]

im entering just for kicks my car goes under the knive next week for the rest of its body work

[CRISPYXB]

the ABKS show is gonna be hot. Wish I could make it!

[MongolPup]

Damn it I missed out on this......

Certain posts deleted, find something better to do then flame "No, Scion is awesome you are a fag!" and "Scion, thats what bitches drive!"

As for the tech stuff back and forth, keep it coming, love constructive shit.

For the record, the tC guys seem to talk alot of smack to the DC5 crews and others.....you guys realize that even modified a stock Type-S still has a really good shot against you?

[MongolPup]

Lol someone lied to you. Either that or some dealer was trying to take advantage of a naive buyer.

I was that friend. Atlanta Toyota. It was the oil change before my last oil change two weeks ago, I can dig the date up if you want.

It was modified by a Toyota dealership in Florida and had all the TRD options/dealer parts including the shortshifter with knob, S/C and exhaust. It also had a AEM intake and Oil Cap.

It was over 30k and had one previous owner.

The salesman (who for the record approached us) got really pissed at us when we went into the DC5/tC thing (He said "Honda should give you a midget so that when you go over railroad tracks it can push you") and noted that he was scared driving in RSX's because it had no power before i-vtec, and alluded to a belief that the tC was faster. When my other friend mentioned the cost of buying a used WRX or the like for under that price and it would be faster and such, he shut the hood (that he opened) in our faces and walked off. He had walked up and talked to us on his own accord; there was no intent to try and pick a fight with a salesman...even though I am Toyota loyal to the bone I was confused by how he was acting and his logic.

[Kamikaze]

I was that friend. Atlanta Toyota. It was the oil change before my last oil change two weeks ago, I can dig the date up if you want.

It was modified by a Toyota dealership (#) in Florida and had all the TRD options/dealer parts including the shortshifter with knob, S/C and exhaust. It also had a AEM intake and Oil Cap.

It was over 30k and had one previous owner.

I've heard of that car. But I didn't know it had made it to the ATL. It's probably because they couldn't find anyone to buy it at 12k over the top-of-the-line stock price.

[MongolPup]

I edited that post and fleshed out the story, sorry I didn't finish it in time for a complete quote.

[Kamikaze]

For the record, the tC guys seem to talk alot of smack to the DC5 crews and others.....

They started it. Someone found a thread (on whatever the name of the RSX site is) where they were bashing the tC, and then posted it on ScionLife. Then it went from there.

[Kamikaze]

I edited that post and fleshed out the story, sorry I didn't finish it in time for a complete quote.

Interesting story. I'd never go to ATL Toyota anyway. They care too much about making a sale rather than the customer. I only go to Team, Marietta, Hank Aaron, or Mall of GA.

[Z33_kid]

why dont yall post up pics of your scions ??

[Kamikaze]

why dont yall post up pics of your scions ??

Look down... \/ \/ \/

[EP3sAreFun]

Interesting story. I'd never go to ATL Toyota anyway. They care too much about making a sale rather than the customer. I only go to Team, Marietta, Hank Aaron, or Mall of GA.

Yay. Toyota mall of Ga.

By the way we are having our 3rd annual Family Affair car show on may 5th. from 6pm to 10pm. should be alot of fun! to show or just to have fun everyone should come! Door prizes, live music(better than last year too) We'll also have some vendors setup! We also will have much more experienced judges than any year before!

if you have any questions call ed Holt, at 678-546-1212

[MongolPup]

Yay. Toyota mall of Ga.

we

if you have any questions call ed Holt, at 678-546-1212

OMGz0rs PLEASE TELL ME YOU CAN GET NON-USA TRD SHIT FOR ME I'M TIRED OF ORDERING IT FROM JAPAN/CALIFORNIA OR VIA HONG KONG!

I really don't like Atlanta Toyota, most of the people are asses or don't know what they're talking about.....however it is so close to my house (compared to other dealerships) that I can't justify going somewhere else; back in the day I would go there because Dan was still around. The service manager has proven himself to me, I always walk right to him when I pull in the service lanes.

[Alan®]

god i dont check this thread for a few days and i miss a bunch of shit what happend. oh well idc i like my car thats all that matters ABKS show will be awesome see youthere

[EP3sAreFun]

OMGz0rs PLEASE TELL ME YOU CAN GET NON-USA TRD SHIT FOR ME I'M TIRED OF ORDERING IT FROM JAPAN/CALIFORNIA OR VIA HONG KONG!

I really don't like Atlanta Toyota, most of the people are asses or don't know what they're talking about.....however it is so close to my house (compared to other dealerships) that I can't justify going somewhere else; back in the day I would go there because Dan was still around. The service manager has proven himself to me, I always walk right to him when I pull in the service lanes.

we can order ANY trd part. jap or usa. we simply fax an order or send an e-mail, they normaly reply within a few hours. stop by and tll me what your looking for and i can see what i can do for you. Talk to me (Kyle) or Russ.

[MongolPup]

we can order ANY trd part. jap or usa. we simply fax an order or send an e-mail, they normaly reply within a few hours. stop by and tll me what your looking for and i can see what i can do for you. Talk to me (Kyle) or Russ.

What department are you guys in?

[EP3sAreFun]

Parts :)

[crzydesi]

looks like i missed out on this thread... i can agree tho... some tC owners think they are the shit... oh well... here's some pix of mine... I'm hoping to do a zpi kit by summer next year... stage 1 probably

http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f47/crzydesi84/CF%20Scion/IMG_0891.jpg

http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f47/crzydesi84/CF%20Scion/DSC02092.jpg

http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f47/crzydesi84/CF%20Scion/DSC02091.jpg

http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f47/crzydesi84/CF%20Scion/DSC02086.jpg

http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f47/crzydesi84/CF%20Scion/DSC02082.jpg

http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f47/crzydesi84/Toyota%20Show/DSC02251.jpg

[TeamFX_K24a4]

Hey Six2Six.... you do know that in the Scinergy bylaws you can't be in any other "all scion" car club while in Scinergy (i.e. you can't be in Scion Street Performance and ScinergyGa)

[RJtheBlacktC]

http://i143.photobucket.com/albums/r125/RJtheBlacktC/100_0822.jpg

http://i143.photobucket.com/albums/r125/RJtheBlacktC/101_0068.jpg

And here's me against a celica at Import Showdown.... Celica got 15.5 and I got a 15.9..... My best time was against my boyfriends Honda, he got a 15.72 and I got a 15.8!

http://i143.photobucket.com/albums/r125/RJtheBlacktC/th_RJRacing.jpg (http://s143.photobucket.com/albums/r125/RJtheBlacktC/?action=view&current=RJRacing.flv)

[Nismo]

^ that car is soo gangster!

[Rabid Lemmin]

It's always tough to post pics after RJ cause her car is so freakin badass, but being as there seems to be a dearth of photos here, I'll put some up of my baby. Plus I love my new one-of Carbon-Kevlar hood :)

http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e49/parradox/My%20car/DSC00050.jpg
http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e49/parradox/My%20car/Rear.jpg
http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e49/parradox/My%20car/DSCI0167.jpg
http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e49/parradox/My%20car/DSCI0150.jpg
http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e49/parradox/My%20car/DSCI0151.jpg

[Sport1.3]

^sick.....i bet thats a pretty fun ride. Complete sleeper and i dont care what anybody says i love burgundy! lol

my old protege was the same color and had a nice aftermarket t3/t4 set up....what a blast it was

[Firefightin_tC]

It's always tough to post pics after RJ cause her car is so freakin badass, but being as there seems to be a dearth of photos here, I'll put some up of my baby. Plus I love my new one-of Carbon-Kevlar hood :)

http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e49/parradox/My%20car/DSC00050.jpg
http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e49/parradox/My%20car/Rear.jpg
http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e49/parradox/My%20car/DSCI0167.jpg
http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e49/parradox/My%20car/DSCI0150.jpg
http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e49/parradox/My%20car/DSCI0151.jpg

I'm loving that hood and the turbo setup. That's your DD? If so, how many pounds are you pushing?

[Rabid Lemmin]

I'm loving that hood and the turbo setup. That's your DD? If so, how many pounds are you pushing?

Thanks :) Yeah it is my daily driver. I'm only pushing 8.5 psi for now.

[Firefightin_tC]

Thanks :) Yeah it is my daily driver. I'm only pushing 8.5 psi for now.

Oh man, but still. The car is fun to drive STOCK, I can only imagine how much fun the car is once there's a turbo ah' spoolin'!

Is it a custom job or is it produced by someone (i.e. Treadstone...etc.)

[Rabid Lemmin]

Oh man, but still. The car is fun to drive STOCK, I can only imagine how much fun the car is once there's a turbo ah' spoolin'!

Is it a custom job or is it produced by someone (i.e. Treadstone...etc.)

It's the GReddy kit....the 18G

[itsme]

i have a scion :P

[Kamikaze]

:rly:

Are you part of a club?

[itsme]

naw but i've been to a few shows and meets

[dizzle]

own one as well

[Firefightin_tC]

For all of those tC owners, here's the question:

To Supercharge?

-or-

To Turbocharge?

Discuss.

[Kamikaze]

Right now, the highest known wheel hp achieved with the TRD charger is 311hp. With turbos, you can get up to 400 crank hp (not sure of the whp). Which is better? That's a matter of opinion. But the TRD charger is covered by the warranty so that's a plus. :goodjob:

[Firefightin_tC]

Yeah, the fact that there is a warranty is a BIG plus.

But at the same time, a 4-5K price tag is something, especially with a Treadstone Turbo Kit going for 3K.

[Rabid Lemmin]

As I understand it, many of the things you have to do along with the TRD SC to get it to 311 will void it's warranty. If you get headers, the warranty is voided because you are exposing it to excessive heat. Lightened crank pulley, overdrive and underdrive pulleys are mentioned in the small print of the warranty. Also, I think the SC warranty is a lot shorter than the powertrain warranty of the car.

[EP3sAreFun]

As I understand it, many of the things you have to do along with the TRD SC to get it to 311 will void it's warranty. If you get headers, the warranty is voided because you are exposing it to excessive heat. Lightened crank pulley, overdrive and underdrive pulleys are mentioned in the small print of the warranty. Also, I think the SC warranty is a lot shorter than the powertrain warranty of the car.
if you get the TRD supercharger installed from a Dealer you get a 3 year/ 36,000 mile warranty on it. If you buy it over the counter you get a 12 month part warranty. And to be honest with you, with the parts warranty it can be hard to get it replaced under warranty cause most likely they will say that you installed it wrong or ran it wrong or something like that.

The act of getting the header installed wont void your warranty, However is there was a problem, say catalytic converter was to go bad and you came in to get it warrantied. When they see the header, they will decide not to warranty the converter and immediately place blame on the header. thus you will be stuck with a bad cat. This scenario replies to any aftermarket part you may choose to add to your vehicle.

[Firefightin_tC]

So in a way, Toyota is trapping you in terms of having them install it because of the warranty?

Not to mention, it kinda puts a squeeze on wanting to mod the tC at all.

[Kamikaze]

That's with any company. Doing drivetrain modifications will run the risk of voiding your warranty. I wouldn't worry about it much, I mean, it is a Toyota. ;)

[Firefightin_tC]

Well in that case bring on the TRD Supercharger!

There's alot of footwork in terms of choosing what's better for the performance and the wallet.:D

[Kamikaze]

Personally, I'd feel more comfortable about the S/C because it is Toyota approved. Even though it costs more, it's good to have that peace of mind.

[Nismo]

Right now, the highest known wheel hp achieved with the TRD charger is 311hp. With turbos, you can get up to 400 crank hp (not sure of the whp). Which is better? That's a matter of opinion. But the TRD charger is covered by the warranty so that's a plus. :goodjob:

Actually my friend is supposed to be at around 400ish at the wheels by mid july. He is getting a fully built motor though and turbo and all sorts of other stuff.

[Big J]

JB, turbo > SC

[Kamikaze]

Actually my friend is supposed to be at around 400ish at the wheels by mid july. He is getting a fully built motor though and turbo and all sorts of other stuff.

Is he local?

[Firefightin_tC]

JB, turbo > SC

Only if you build it for me, Justin, lol.

[tCz-R-Slo]

Is he local?

yesh, I am..:bump:

[Kamikaze]

yesh, I am..:bump:

In that case, I wanna see this set up when you're done. :D Also, if you're not in a club, you should check us out.

http://www.tcstreetperformance.com

[tCz-R-Slo]

In that case, I wanna see this set up when you're done. :D Also, if you're not in a club, you should check us out.

http://www.tcstreetperformance.com

yup, I wouldn't mind meeting up with some other tC guys and see what Atlanta has to offer. ScinergyIE has alotta xB's and xA's (real nice folks). I will normaly be at IA's Northpoint meet on thursdays...(at least when I get a ride) but I havn't seen any (well built tC's) around my area.

[itsme]

i wanna play with some TC's sometime :P i've had one guy turn me down cuzz he said i run Acuras he didnt wanna run me....what a disapointment dat night.......got me wonderin how many ppl saw me run da Teg dat one night at Moreland

[JBalla1036]

TC's are GAY!!!!! Mazda 6's FTMFW!!!!! LOL I'll be playin wit that lil built Tc in about 4-5 months!!!!

[tCz-R-Slo]

TC's are GAY!!!!! Mazda 6's FTMFW!!!!! LOL I'll be playin wit that lil built Tc in about 4-5 months!!!!

PPSHHH PPSHHH ....http://www.freesmileys.org/emo/char067.gif (http://www.freesmileys.org/)..I won't say another word...

[Rabid Lemmin]

yup, I wouldn't mind meeting up with some other tC guys and see what Atlanta has to offer. ScinergyIE has alotta xB's and xA's (real nice folks). I will normaly be at IA's Northpoint meet on thursdays...(at least when I get a ride) but I havn't seen any (well built tC's) around my area.


Actually, we've gotten more tC's in the last 6 months or so. And one of them has a build going on with the ZPI built long block mated with the T3/T4 hybrid. He did some prework with his tranny (LSD, clutch, flywheel) and suspension (Tein SS I think), so I can't wait to see what he can do.

[tCz-R-Slo]

Actually, we've gotten more tC's in the last 6 months or so. And one of them has a build going on with the ZPI built long block mated with the T3/T4 hybrid. He did some prework with his tranny (LSD, clutch, flywheel) and suspension (Tein SS I think), so I can't wait to see what he can do.

actualy thats me bud:D ... hehe..;)... my cars been sitting the the driveway for a few weeks now... (knocking is for doors, its not a welcome sound when it comes from your car...)

I had that long block ordered, but after 3 weeks of waiting for ZPI to start, I desided to not go that direction, so I just ordered some race bearings and low compression pistons, and a new EMS.. it won't be quite as fast as I had orginaly planned (420-550)range... I think I can safely achive around 300-350... which (for the time being) is good enough for me!

Ive seen on the stock T-netics setup, 300HP with the EMS that I just bought, and with lower Compression pistons, I should be able to up the boost a little... so we'll see...

[Rabid Lemmin]

actualy thats me bud:D ... hehe..;)... my cars been sitting the the driveway for a few weeks now... (knocking is for doors, its not a welcome sound when it comes from your car...)

I had that long block ordered, but after 3 weeks of waiting for ZPI to start, I desided to not go that direction, so I just ordered some race bearings and low compression pistons, and a new EMS.. it won't be quite as fast as I had orginaly planned (420-550)range... I think I can safely achive around 300-350... which (for the time being) is good enough for me!

Ive seen on the stock T-netics setup, 300HP with the EMS that I just bought, and with lower Compression pistons, I should be able to up the boost a little... so we'll see...

Haha, what's up Sham. When you gonna finish that beast? I'm takin a break with mine for a bit. After I finally got my car connecting to the internet, I figured I'd take a bit of a break. But I know in a few months, it's the tranny, open up the exhaust, and go to 10 psi. I was also going to spend quite a bit of time on the re-tune, so I can have a winter/summer map for 8.5 psi, and a summer/winter map for 10 psi. Figure if I have a computer in the car as a head unit, may as well do some data logging and Fuel Management switching when I want to. What EMS are you going with?

[tCz-R-Slo]

Haha, what's up Sham. When you gonna finish that beast? I'm takin a break with mine for a bit. After I finally got my car connecting to the internet, I figured I'd take a bit of a break. But I know in a few months, it's the tranny, open up the exhaust, and go to 10 psi. I was also going to spend quite a bit of time on the re-tune, so I can have a winter/summer map for 8.5 psi, and a summer/winter map for 10 psi. Figure if I have a computer in the car as a head unit, may as well do some data logging and Fuel Management switching when I want to. What EMS are you going with?
im going with Hydra. it will come with the optional a/f module that will help with the tune.. [im typing this on my buddy's Wii]...lolz

[JBalla1036]

And yet you still manage to be gay!!!! LOL JP

[Nismo]

^ lol. So I guess my tC isnt built nor nice. I see how it is ass bag.....

[tCz-R-Slo]

I'm gonna stay out of this one untill I get my car put back together... heh..

[tCz-R-Slo]

Bump in the name of my non-working pile of crap scion. I love the car and hate it so much for being broken at the same time... ghey... ::end Rant::

[crzydesi]

a small upgrade...

http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f47/crzydesi84/Turbo%20tC/DSC02672.jpg

http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f47/crzydesi84/Turbo%20tC/DSC02671.jpg

http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f47/crzydesi84/Turbo%20tC/DSC02667.jpg

http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f47/crzydesi84/Turbo%20tC/DSC02684.jpg

http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f47/crzydesi84/Turbo%20tC/DSC02676.jpg

http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f47/crzydesi84/Turbo%20tC/DSC02674.jpg

[tCz-R-Slo]

nice you'll have to run me when I get my car back. but I need to get some REAL information here bud. Pictures don't always tell the whole story..... NUMBERS....GWaddangit.

[Nismo]

I have a metal snail too now, so yea watch the fuck out!

[Complication]

::Begin Factual Statement::

ehem.... simply for the sake of being a pain in the arse and the fact that I enjoy causing general problems as well as enthusiastic asshattery... I submit to you the FACT...
that all...

SCIONS ARE GAY...

:End factual statement::

ttt

[Firefightin_tC]

Finally got some pictures up of it's Stock-Goodness...


...Tein S-Tech's are on the way...

[Complication]

talk about big arse pictures. well, welcome to the scion end of things. what are your plans for your car. turbo ftw?

spill it...

comp.

[Sport1.3]

Pictures are too small, can you make them any bigger?

[Complication]

Pictures are too small, can you make them any bigger?


Fo sho... +1

[Firefightin_tC]

talk about big arse pictures. well, welcome to the scion end of things. what are your plans for your car. turbo ftw?

spill it...

comp.

I just got Tein S-Tech springs, which are waiting for me in a my room as we speak.

I want to keep it my DD, but make it fun to drive especially with it being a A/T.

So I plan on going the N/A route for right now because I don't have the need to boost or supercharge her just yet.

So after the springs, I'm looking at:

1. TRD Shocks
2. Fujitia CAI
3. Tanabe Concept G Axleback Exhaust
4. Invidia S-Pipe
5. Megan Header

I want to keep the body stock so the biggest exterior modification I would get done is a CF Lip Kit and my tails lights tinted by Bucky once I get the time to take my happy ass to Lawerenceville.

[Complication]

fun stuff... I remember those days, I'll be back in my scion round christmas time... I did the whole N/A thing but, it wasn't enough. (still fun but not enough)...

[Complication]

BUMP.

I just ordered some "super A beam" rods from Carrillo to go along with the CP Pistons, combined with the shop whos building the motor, the factory gasket kit, an FSM, and a stand alone Engine Management system. the motor build is underway. all that should be left will be larger turbo, injectors.. but I won't be even thinking about that until a few numbers come through.

Comp. :ninja:

[crzydesi]

damn got any updated pix of the tc?? sounds like some good work u doin

[Firefightin_tC]

damn got any updated pix of the tc?? sounds like some good work u doin

I need to get the damn thing washed before I take any pictures.

Actually, I just recently got the springs installed as well a Tanabe Concept G Axleback Exhaust. So it's ridin' 2" lower as well as throaty!

God, I love that sound. I'm going to start piecing together the exhaust system by finding a Mid-Pipe ad S-Pipe as well as probably going with a Megan Header. Just want to save up for that supercharger.

...waitasecond...:ninja:

...you're not talkin' to me...

[Complication]

I need to get the damn thing washed before I take any pictures.

Actually, I just recently got the springs installed as well a Tanabe Concept G Axleback Exhaust. So it's ridin' 2" lower as well as throaty!

God, I love that sound. I'm going to start piecing together the exhaust system by finding a Mid-Pipe ad S-Pipe as well as probably going with a Megan Header. Just want to save up for that supercharger.

...waitasecond...:ninja:

...you're not talkin' to me...


The car should be ready for tune in the next month or so. I hope... :goodjob:
we the motor is colser and closer to being in... I just have to get the turbo (GTK550) and a few other misc. parts...
.

I will have a full 2.5 inch exhaust mandrel bent, high temp coated, (connected with a 24inch MagnaFlow muffler) for sale soon. I have to go 3inches... :ninja: I paid 900 for it to be made,I want to let it go for $550 and I might be able to help have it installed at the shop...

so if any of you Scion kids want a new full custom exhaust (that sounds amazing BTW) let me know.

Edit: I might post a few. I honestly want to finish the car first before I go toot'n ma horn.