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getto301
03-25-2007, 01:31 PM
I have a 3000gt, im 16..you dont trust a 16 year with a car like dat.
so im planning to make this car go over 800hp.
and i was wondering what are the core things i need to get.

so far i plan to get

1000c injectors


a better electrical system
( so i can send more electricity to burn the extra air/fuel mixture better) ^ this one im not sure if this is really worth it, i get mixed recommendations of it.

Forged Rod and Pistons.
A Sequential Set up of a Gt45 turbo and a gt28.
A Very huge blowoff valve.
and alot of ecu tuning.

^^^ all that im planning to do next year.
after that im planning to save a few more months and get this

A HUGE and Dual pass, radiator
Heat Treatment to the engine
Twin side mount intercoolers
Better down pipes and exhaust system
Huge 14'' breaks
stronger fuel system and oil system
A HUGE WING IN THE BACK LIKE A RICER!!!...sike..


i was wondering what else u guys can help me with to get for the first part of the list to do next year.

just for quick refrence, my 3000gt sl has a 3l v6 doch.

Skin_Graft
03-25-2007, 01:38 PM
:thinking: ...

getto301
03-25-2007, 01:46 PM
just was wondering what things u guys usually put into the motor

so i can add it onto ma list

drmcivicsi
03-25-2007, 02:07 PM
LOL GO JUMP IN A FUCKING FIRE DUMBASS

CHADbee
03-25-2007, 02:26 PM
:lmao:

let me guess the car is 100% bone stock right now right?

Big J
03-25-2007, 03:15 PM
Leave me the car for 1 year, and bring $15,000 with you *for starters*, and I'll hook it up.

But if it's your daily driver and you need it to get back and forth to your job at Kroger, I might be able to do it in 9 months.

Big J
03-25-2007, 03:21 PM
I have a 3000gt, im 16..you dont trust a 16 year with a car like dat.
so im planning to make this car go over 800hp.
and i was wondering what are the core things i need to get.




I'm usually not an ass but I would start with a clue.



The two turbos you want to run are worth more than the car. Prove me wrong and build it and I'll say I'm sorry.

Eurostunna07
03-25-2007, 03:23 PM
Waste of time...and money..

1 SICK GT
03-25-2007, 05:29 PM
LOL GO JUMP IN A FUCKING FIRE DUMBASS
:lmfao: :lmfao: :lmfao: :lmfao: :lmfao: :lmfao: :lmfao: :lmfao: :lmfao:

"B"
03-25-2007, 06:04 PM
You should start by trying to get 300hp to the wheels and work from there.

Frög
03-25-2007, 06:17 PM
I have a 3000gt, im 16..you dont trust a 16 year with a car like dat.
so im planning to make this car go over 800hp.
and i was wondering what are the core things i need to get.

so far i plan to get

1000c injectors


a better electrical system
( so i can send more electricity to burn the extra air/fuel mixture better) ^ this one im not sure if this is really worth it, i get mixed recommendations of it.

Forged Rod and Pistons.
A Sequential Set up of a Gt45 turbo and a gt28.
A Very huge blowoff valve.
and alot of ecu tuning.

^^^ all that im planning to do next year.
after that im planning to save a few more months and get this

A HUGE and Dual pass, radiator
Heat Treatment to the engine
Twin side mount intercoolers
Better down pipes and exhaust system
Huge 14'' breaks
stronger fuel system and oil system
A HUGE WING IN THE BACK LIKE A RICER!!!...sike..


i was wondering what else u guys can help me with to get for the first part of the list to do next year.

just for quick refrence, my 3000gt sl has a 3l v6 doch.



parts i found amusing..

Benefit
03-25-2007, 08:07 PM
u just need the wing and thats automatic 800hp.

wantboost
03-25-2007, 09:20 PM
ROFL

2.3 Evo 8
03-25-2007, 10:50 PM
www.flamesuites.com

CSquared
03-25-2007, 11:06 PM
How much hp do monster trucks put out? I would suggest getting in your 3000gt and having one of those things drive over you a few times. Yes the car would be toast and you might die, but that is the only chance in hell you would be able to get 800+hp "on" it, as far as i'm concerned.

getto301
03-25-2007, 11:34 PM
I'm usually not an ass but I would start with a clue.



The two turbos you want to run are worth more than the car. Prove me wrong and build it and I'll say I'm sorry.


man whats ur issue, ur gettin all fuzzed up. what about those shit loads of civic guys puttin rims on their cars , and the rims cost twice their car. and all that shit atleast im not doin that shit. and no they aint worth more, the 3000gt has been pushed over 800 you can see it in this vid : http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&videoid=1558709764

you needa chill man, atleast im askin what you guys do but fuck dat, i should be like half of these idiots and go get a body kit and a giant wing and a fart can right?

CSquared
03-25-2007, 11:45 PM
man whats ur issue, ur gettin all fuzzed up. what about those shit loads of civic guys puttin rims on their cars , and the rims cost twice their car. and all that shit atleast im not doin that shit. and no they aint worth more, the 3000gt has been pushed over 800 you can see it in this vid : http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&videoid=1558709764

you needa chill man, atleast im askin what you guys do but fuck dat, i should be like half of these idiots and go get a body kit and a giant wing and a fart can right?

or maybe you just shouldn't jump up on a car forum and start asking retarded "why is the sky blue?" and "how are babies made?" type questions...

800hp is retarded... For you anyway...

Take a few years and learn about cars, because that 800hp is going to be an unreliable fucking paperweight unless you've got DEEEEEEEEP pockets and a ton of automotive knowledge. As some dude said above, aim for some shit like 400hp, then go from there.

getto301
03-25-2007, 11:53 PM
and the point of this section is to ask questions so i ask what is recommended to get when trying to make a car to go for higher hp, shit don't matter the amount ill shoot for something lower but what are some things that i haven't listed that i have overlooked damn.

CSquared
03-26-2007, 12:05 AM
Honestly you are missing about 99.8% of the shit you would ideally need for a high hp setup. It would take me an hour to clean up that horror show excuse for a list.

Man, we've all been in your situation, just getting into cars. There is a lot of shit you just need to read and learn. I don't know much about the 3000's but is the car already turbo? If not, I'd look into a turbo motor swap. If so, just start off with a decent turbo-back exhaust setup and an intake.

What you NEED to find is a 3000gt dedicated forum... They will no doubt have recommended modification lists based upon the specific car and model. You should also read up on what other people are doing to their cars and what kind of power they are making with those modifications.

Another word of advice... If you jump up saying "i am looking to make 800hp" when 99% of the local import scene will never touch anything close to that, you are asking to be flamed... As you were.

OneSlow5pt0
03-26-2007, 12:45 AM
lol,first off if u want 800hp get rid of the 3000gt and get a supra,or if u love GTs get a VR-4 then run ALOT of juice





or we can hit u in the head until u think u have 800hp

stealthrt
03-26-2007, 01:36 AM
R.. O.. F.. L..

You are missing about $25k worth of shit form that list you would need to get NEAR 800hp, not to mention a 3.0L V6 cant spool a GT42 AND a GT28 (rather 1.5L cant spool a GT42)

You want a 800HP 3s, Spend 10k on a 3.7L stroker kit, which by the way only includes a short block, additional 3k on the heads. 3-5k into a fuel system. buy a DR1000 turbo kit 5k. then so much extra shit i AM NOT going to go into it here.

Just because ray pampena can put down over 800 AWHP, doesn't mean you will come ANYWHERE close, without spending 50k+ for a shop to do it for you

Then you want to run all this through you FWD car? Personally, I think I can attest to the fact that you will fail miserable without ALOT of help.. you know.. seeing how I am at that point?

I really dont know what to say.. I dont mean to burn you on this topic, but your in way over your head. If you really want some help making your car quicker, visit www.3si.org/forum (http://www.3si.org/forum) and check out the Georgia3S section. We will be able to help you out, but you will need to rethink everything you think you know.

stealthrt
03-26-2007, 01:39 AM
lol,first off if u want 800hp get rid of the 3000gt and get a supra,or if u love GTs get a VR-4 then run ALOT of juice

or we can hit u in the head until u think u have 800hp

hey now.. the supra's engine isn't any better than the 6g72, aside from a few oiling issues to the mains commonly found in the 6g72.

mrt0mjones
03-26-2007, 01:41 AM
...

No.


...

OneSlow5pt0
03-26-2007, 01:43 AM
hey now.. the supra's engine isn't any better than the 6g72, aside from a few oiling issues to the mains commonly found in the 6g72.


i means it all lot more common to see a 800hp supra than 3000GT...and woundnt the VR-4 be a better base than the SL?

stealthrt
03-26-2007, 02:00 AM
i means it all lot more common to see a 800hp supra than 3000GT...and woundnt the VR-4 be a better base than the SL?

yea, but they have the same shortblock (aside from the oil squirters in the TT block)

yea, It is alot more common to see a 800hp supra, but that is because there is a larger fanbase > more shops for the supra than 3/s

There are several 800AWHP+ 3/s cars, as high as a 935 AWHP Auto. There is even one running a [email protected] on a completly stock shortblock and no n20.

HalfBaked
03-26-2007, 02:05 AM
Here, I'll help you out.

Step 1- Find mommy or daddys gun.
Step 2- Insert gun into your mouth.
Step 3- Pull trigger.
Step 4- ???
Step 5- 800whp in your 3000gt.

RandomGuy
03-26-2007, 02:09 AM
You should start by trying to get 300hp to the wheels and work from there.
you mean 200. :)

lol SL's are incredibly heavy and slow. They can get dusted by stock civics.




This will get you to 450hp in under 1000$
just get a turbonator (35% gain)
new spark plugs
VAFC II (to tune it)
DSM 300CC injectors (for superior fuel flow)
Z32 MAF
CRX Throttle Body
Profec- B controller

and some tuning

stealthrt
03-26-2007, 02:19 AM
you mean 200. :)

lol SL's are incredibly heavy and slow. They can get dusted by stock civics.




This will get you to 450hp in under 1000$
just get a turbonator (35% gain)
new spark plugs
VAFC II (to tune it)
DSM 300CC injectors (for superior fuel flow)
Z32 MAF
CRX Throttle Body
Profec- B controller

and some tuning

Lol, quite a mod list you got there!

3400 lbs + 222 hp stock isnt that bad.. mine put down 195FWHP @ 3200 lbs before I put some turbos on it, plenty to keep the civics behind me ;)

fight club
03-26-2007, 02:28 AM
800 whp and 16? you must be kidding. heres an idea.
1. learn to drive.
2. dont come back saying you can, because you cant.
3. learn to drive.
4. get a bit more power. learn to drive.
5. repeat step 4 until you either crash and die because you ignored step 1-3 or you actually can handle a high hp car and by then youll realize 800whp in a daily driver is kinda stupid for a 16 yr old.

2.3 Evo 8
03-26-2007, 02:50 AM
To do it right, $40,000-$50,000. Show us $50,000 and we'll help you.

LS2ner
03-26-2007, 04:06 AM
Talk to ruiner about his GT-O 3000. I dont think he had that much power but he would prob know a lil something about em.

mrt0mjones
03-26-2007, 04:30 AM
Talk to ruiner about his GT-O 3000. I dont think he had that much power but he would prob know a lil something about em.

not to bash on ruiner at all, but he'd be better off talking to people that have done more with the platform.

I:E StealthRT

2.3 Evo 8
03-26-2007, 05:40 AM
I don't see no money yet.

Big J
03-26-2007, 06:00 AM
man whats ur issue, ur gettin all fuzzed up. what about those shit loads of civic guys puttin rims on their cars , and the rims cost twice their car. and all that shit atleast im not doin that shit. and no they aint worth more, the 3000gt has been pushed over 800 you can see it in this vid : http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&videoid=1558709764

you needa chill man, atleast im askin what you guys do but fuck dat, i should be like half of these idiots and go get a body kit and a giant wing and a fart can right?

95% of the people on here will never see 800WHP, end of story. There are some really fast cars, but 800WHP in a FWD car is pointless and pretty unrealistic, unless that's your thing.

I'm sure if you asked what you could do to get 300-350hp someone might actually be able to help you, and might take you seriously.

Do you know what an exponential curve is? The first 100 HP is fairly cheap compared to what the second 100HP will cost, and the first will seem like pocket change compared to what the third 100HP will cost and so on. You see all these fancy fast cars in magazines, they look great, they go fast, they handle well, but you never really see what the owner has sunk into the car, and they never talk about how many axels they break, how many head gaskets they've popped, all the problems they've had along the way.

rolling_trip
03-26-2007, 06:12 AM
......Yet another reason for a simple I.Q. test before granting the ability to post.


Seriously, at the age of 16, I really doubt you have the maturity to handle a car with half the HP that you are asking for. Go buy yourself a POS and learn how to drive before you even think about a powerful car.

ejohnson88
03-26-2007, 10:39 AM
Lol and to think I was excited about 200 whpin my civic... lol and sometimes I feel like that can be crazy fast O.O and this Kid wants 800..... at times I thought I had unrealistic dreams... but this kid made me realize that I am realistic more often than not :D

Benefit
03-26-2007, 11:30 AM
wow i missed the fact that this guy doesnt even have a VR-4...

OneSlow5pt0
03-26-2007, 11:42 AM
wow i missed the fact that this guy doesnt even have a VR-4...


yea,thats what i said...tell him to come back with a Vr-4 to build on....im happy as hell with my 130hp,its 30hp less than my RX-7 but it weighs 600 pounds less,so i belive its faster:blah:

getto301
03-26-2007, 02:30 PM
If you really want some help making your car quicker, visit www.3si.org/forum (http://www.3si.org/forum) and check out the Georgia3S section. We will be able to help you out, but you will need to rethink everything you think you know.

yah i know that forum, they dont accept free based account like gmail n crap so i cant join but ill find a school email or sumthing else


800 whp and 16? you must be kidding. heres an idea.
1. learn to drive.
2. dont come back saying you can, because you cant.
3. learn to drive.
4. get a bit more power. learn to drive.
5. repeat step 4 until you either crash and die because you ignored step 1-3 or you actually can handle a high hp car and by then youll realize 800whp in a daily driver is kinda stupid for a 16 yr old.

lol i know man, it was just a project idea, ill stick to a lower hp level but i know what u mean, alot of people die with tree in the middle of their car because they though they could handle it, im takin it slow, i havent pushed my car over 70 and i did 70 only cuz i was on the highway, i drive like granny man.

i wanted to do this whole thing on a vr-4 because since its a awd, u know and its already got all the connections needed for the turbo set up, but its the same short block so idk if it was really worth it, it will be probally ATLEAST a year , most likely will do it in two all the stuff i want on it, all i really need is something fast enough to be ok with 400 sounds just fine, stock vr-4 pushes around 320 i think, so a lil over a stock vr-4 and ill cool with it.



This will get you to 450hp in under 1000$
just get a turbonator (35% gain)
new spark plugs
VAFC II (to tune it)
DSM 300CC injectors (for superior fuel flow)
Z32 MAF
CRX Throttle Body
Profec- B controller

and some tuning
thanks ill look into those parts by the way how do u know what size of injectors u need?

stealthrt
03-26-2007, 02:48 PM
lol i know man, it was just a project idea, ill stick to a lower hp level but i know what u mean, alot of people die with tree in the middle of their car because they though they could handle it, im takin it slow, i havent pushed my car over 70 and i did 70 only cuz i was on the highway, i drive like granny man.

i wanted to do this whole thing on a vr-4 because since its a awd, u know and its already got all the connections needed for the turbo set up, but its the same short block so idk if it was really worth it, it will be probally ATLEAST a year , most likely will do it in two all the stuff i want on it, all i really need is something fast enough to be ok with 400 sounds just fine, stock vr-4 pushes around 320 i think, so a lil over a stock vr-4 and ill cool with it.


Really, I don't want you getting a VR-4.. First off you need to start doing better in school, because I can't say I understood a word you just said. I don't think you have .0001% clue what you are wanting to get yourself into. i doubt you would even be able to maintain a STOCK VR-4.




thanks ill look into those parts by the way how do u know what size of injectors u need?

First of all, those injectors are smaller than stock vr-4 injectors
Second, if you were unable to understand that NOTHING in that list will actually help you.. humf, please sell your SL!!! he made that list up as a JOKE!!

Fr33way
03-26-2007, 03:07 PM
Do people still say SIKE!?

2.3 Evo 8
03-26-2007, 03:33 PM
SHOW ME THE MONEY!!!

OneSlow5pt0
03-26-2007, 03:49 PM
lol,id hate to see insurance on a VR-4 for 16 year old...might as well pay little more and get a Z06,lol

getto301
03-26-2007, 07:37 PM
lol,id hate to see insurance on a VR-4 for 16 year old...might as well pay little more and get a Z06,lol

i actually only pay 60 monthly, its registered under my fathers name. hes been driving for 53 years and has never been in a accident his insurance is cheap as hell.


@stealthrt

i knew they were smaller man, thats why i asked how do you determine the size of the injectors...

BTLFED
03-26-2007, 07:48 PM
You are the a retard. Recipe for 800whp:

1) Convert to RWD
2) Drop in LS1 with a Supercharger and Nitrous
3) Drive off a Cliff, removing yourself from the gene pool

BTLFED
03-26-2007, 07:48 PM
i actually only pay 60 monthly, its registered under my fathers name. hes been driving for 53 years and has never been in a accident his insurance is cheap as hell.


Your dad is almost 70?! :rolleyes:

getto301
03-26-2007, 07:54 PM
if id get a manual vr-4 later on..way later on i had made this list.

-Brake Kit 3S TT AWD 14in Kit
-Forged rods
-Forged pistons
-Injectors 750cc ( i dont know what size to get.)
- Blow Off Valve
-Clutch Stage 3
-Dual pass Radiator + Flexalite Fans Black
-Highflow catalyst
- Fuel Pump
-3SX Fuel Kit
-Crank Pulley 3SX Underdrive
-Cam Gears
-NGK Copper Plugs
-Iridium spark plugs
-10mm plug wires
-Head Gasket 92mm


i know theres probally a lot missing, but thats what i had under my bookmark folder a few weeks ago if i ever got a manual vr-4 in the way distant future.

getto301
03-26-2007, 07:57 PM
Your dad is almost 70?! :rolleyes:

72 now actually lol, hes a good dad though. Hes calm and stuff, unlike some of my friends dads whom are in their 30s and are still acting like kids them selfs you know. good driver even though he drives like a psycho but i guess i cant say anything with a record like that.

BTLFED
03-26-2007, 08:02 PM
72 now actually lol, hes a good dad though. Hes calm and stuff, unlike some of my friends dads whom are in their 30s and are still acting like kids them selfs you know. good driver even though he drives like a psycho but i guess i cant say anything with a record like that.

So your dad is 72 and you are 16? WTF

getto301
03-26-2007, 08:06 PM
So your dad is 72 and you are 16? WTF

yep had me at 56 lol , ah enought of that man! lol.
how do u determine ur injector size needs?

stealthrt
03-26-2007, 08:14 PM
i actually only pay 60 monthly, its registered under my fathers name. hes been driving for 53 years and has never been in a accident his insurance is cheap as hell.

You don't own a VR-4..................





i knew they were smaller man, thats why i asked how do you determine the size of the injectors...

How do you think you can determine what size injector to get when you dont even have a HP goal, and how can you make a HP goal without a car goal and a BUDGET.



-Brake Kit 3S TT AWD 14in Kit
-Forged rods
-Forged pistons
-Injectors 750cc ( i dont know what size to get.)
- Blow Off Valve
-Clutch Stage 3
-Dual pass Radiator + Flexalite Fans Black
-Highflow catalyst
- Fuel Pump
-3SX Fuel Kit
-Crank Pulley 3SX Underdrive
-Cam Gears
-NGK Copper Plugs
-Iridium spark plugs
-10mm plug wires
-Head Gasket 92mm


So, do you want Copper plugs or Iridium plugs?!
what is a catalyst?
why is it you think you will need a larger radiator when you dont know what turbos you will have or where they will be placed?
why do you have cam gears, but not a fuel/spark managment system that will allow you to electronically adjust timing?
92mm Headgasket? WTF? does this mean you plan to run OVERSIZED pistons? otherwise, whats wrong with the stock headgasket?
Are you going to upgrade to a 4-bolt block, or run a forged crank with those forged pistons/rods?
blow of valve, i was under the impression VR-4's came with those stock?
What exactly entails a "fuel kit?"
Why is it exactly you think an Underdrive pulley will help you on a high HP application, do you not like the idea of having a harmonic balancer on an engine spinning at high rpms and ALOT of power?
14" brake kit? Don't want a suspension to match? really think you will need a big brake kit on a car you dont even know its intention (street, 1/4 mile, autocross, road course)

ANSWER EVERY ONE OF THESE QUESTIONS and come up with a BUDGET and a car GOAL (what type of track, what type of times) and then I will be glad to help you.

YES, THIS MEANS RESEARCH!!!!!!

stealthrt
03-26-2007, 08:15 PM
Here is a good starting point.

http://www.3si.org/forum/showpost.php?p=2761639&postcount=1

Benefit
03-26-2007, 08:23 PM
high flow catalyst

close thread

stealthrt
03-26-2007, 08:29 PM
high flow catalyst

close thread

:stupid:

this thread is getting out of hand, and is obviously a joke

getto301
03-26-2007, 08:38 PM
Here is a good starting point.

http://www.3si.org/forum/showpost.php?p=2761639&postcount=1

thanks like crazy man.

Big J
03-26-2007, 08:40 PM
Just run a direct port nitrous set up, like a 500 shot. Make sure you get some videos.

getto301
03-26-2007, 09:00 PM
You don't own a VR-4..................




How do you think you can determine what size injector to get when you dont even have a HP goal, and how can you make a HP goal without a car goal and a BUDGET.



So, do you want Copper plugs or Iridium plugs?!
what is a catalyst?
why is it you think you will need a larger radiator when you dont know what turbos you will have or where they will be placed?
why do you have cam gears, but not a fuel/spark managment system that will allow you to electronically adjust timing?
92mm Headgasket? WTF? does this mean you plan to run OVERSIZED pistons? otherwise, whats wrong with the stock headgasket?
Are you going to upgrade to a 4-bolt block, or run a forged crank with those forged pistons/rods?
blow of valve, i was under the impression VR-4's came with those stock?
What exactly entails a "fuel kit?"
Why is it exactly you think an Underdrive pulley will help you on a high HP application, do you not like the idea of having a harmonic balancer on an engine spinning at high rpms and ALOT of power?
14" brake kit? Don't want a suspension to match? really think you will need a big brake kit on a car you dont even know its intention (street, 1/4 mile, autocross, road course)

ANSWER EVERY ONE OF THESE QUESTIONS and come up with a BUDGET and a car GOAL (what type of track, what type of times) and then I will be glad to help you.

YES, THIS MEANS RESEARCH!!!!!!

-Iridium plugs.
-high flow catalyst converter.
-radiator upgrade is only a inch wider then stock but higher flow.
-I did had selected a fuel spark system i guess i didnt put it
MSD DIS-4 HO High Output Ignition Amplifier (http://www.3sx.com/store/comersus_viewItem.asp?idProduct=24685)
-I haven't decided if to bore out to 3.15l (94mm) and 92mm is the stock size
-goin to run a genII forged crank. (http://www.3sx.com/store/comersus_viewItemBundle.asp?idProduct=813)
-Stock vr-4 blow off valve has a 30psi limit and i dought i would go over that much boost but if i did..
-Fuel Kit at 3sx store is made of:
high flow fuel filter kit with lines going up to the front fail, fuel rail loop kit from front rail to back rail, and FPR kit with gauge to manage fuel pressure
-actually, its a aluminum crank pulley (http://www.3sx.com/store/comersus_viewItemBundle.asp?idProduct=916)
and it weights 1 pound 11 ounces stock pulley is around 7 pounds.
- a 14'' brake kit, i would like to be safe, if not that just get slotted rotors.
- plan to use actually full intention is just fast accelaretion from a red light at mid rpm band launch.

-budget if done in two years from now, probally 12k max.

getto301
03-26-2007, 09:01 PM
Just run a direct port nitrous set up, like a 500 shot. Make sure you get some videos. so my engines blows right open? lol no thanks.

stealthrt
03-26-2007, 09:04 PM
-Iridium plugs.
-high flow catalyst converter.
-radiator upgrade is only a inch wider then stock but higher flow.
-I did had selected a fuel spark system i guess i didnt put it
MSD DIS-4 HO High Output Ignition Amplifier (http://www.3sx.com/store/comersus_viewItem.asp?idProduct=24685)
-I haven't decided if to bore out to 3.15l (94mm) and 92mm is the stock size
-goin to run a genII forged crank. (http://www.3sx.com/store/comersus_viewItemBundle.asp?idProduct=813)
-Stock vr-4 blow off valve has a 30psi limit and i dought i would go over that much boost but if i did..
-Fuel Kit at 3sx store is made of:
high flow fuel filter kit with lines going up to the front fail, fuel rail loop kit from front rail to back rail, and FPR kit with gauge to manage fuel pressure
-actually, its a aluminum crank pulley (http://www.3sx.com/store/comersus_viewItemBundle.asp?idProduct=916)
and it weights 1 pound 11 ounces stock pulley is around 7 pounds.
- a 14'' brake kit, i would like to be safe, if not that just get slotted rotors.
- plan to use actually full intention is just fast accelaretion from a red light at mid rpm band launch.

-budget if done in two years from now, probally 12k max.

you didn't answer ALOT of my questions, or see any of my concerns with buying things you dont need/want.

12k will not get you past 500hp reliably, and that means doing your own work, which im sorry to say, you dont seem like you could do.

getto301
03-26-2007, 09:10 PM
you didn't answer ALOT of my questions, or see any of my concerns with buying things you dont need/want.

12k will not get you past 500hp reliably, and that means doing your own work, which im sorry to say, you dont seem like you could do.

i dont even have to pass that much 400hp is the new goal. i did anwser most of them man...

getto301
03-26-2007, 09:12 PM
but ill keep researching i know i gotta long way to go just needed to some lead into the right direction.

"B"
03-26-2007, 09:13 PM
you mean 200. :)

lol SL's are incredibly heavy and slow. They can get dusted by stock civics.




This will get you to 450hp in under 1000$
just get a turbonator (35% gain)
new spark plugs
VAFC II (to tune it)
DSM 300CC injectors (for superior fuel flow)
Z32 MAF
CRX Throttle Body
Profec- B controller

and some tuning

I just figured he should start by trying to make a decent amount of power at the wheels before he tried to go big.:lmfao:

"B"
03-26-2007, 09:15 PM
Just run a direct port nitrous set up, like a 500 shot. Make sure you get some videos.


HAHAHAHA, classic

stealthrt
03-26-2007, 09:27 PM
i dont even have to pass that much 400hp is the new goal. i did anwser most of them man...

yea, and you obviously put alot of research into each and every question huh? If you put that much thought into anything you do with your car, it wont last a week.

Iridium plugs, do you even know the difference between these and coppers? what heat range do you plan on running, resisted, or non-resisted?
catalyst converter? it that located next to the flux capacitor? CATALYTIC CONVERTOR
radiator upgrade? an inch WIDER? how would that help? I think you mean THICKER. why do you think you will need these or thin/high flow fans? do you know the efficiency of the stock radiator?
Why do you think the stock coil pack is so bad? where do you find these 10mm MSD wires to go with that ingnition?
really think the stock BOV can handle over 14 psi? sadly mistake if so..

Im not even going to go into the rest of it. good luck?

Killswitch Performance
03-27-2007, 12:55 AM
LoL @ the whole thread.

ghetto guy... Just be happy with what you have, and read. You aren't going to do anything as it is right now, becuase I don't think you even have the basic understanding of what makes more power. Secondly, I don't think you have even the most basic knowledge of how motors work in general.

Join 3SI.. And just read for about 6 months. Anything you don't pick up on by then, you can ask questions. But ask them in well though out, complete sentences, or you will get flamed. Even the most simple question will get a good answer if you are proper in the way you ask. "howz can I make teh 800hp yo?" isn't it.

Tyler

mrt0mjones
03-27-2007, 05:58 AM
Just maintain your 3kgt for a year, and let us know where your at.

And Drive it hard everyday.

Ps: do you have any pics of your car?

getto301
03-27-2007, 02:01 PM
yah i know hell fire,ur right i should be happy with what i go, hell im proud of not driving a hand down from my parents.. for now its more than enought and if i were to spend 12k in two years why not get a new car likea 80s corvette or sum nice classic car.

mrt0mjones yah man i got sum pics of it
1994 300gt sl.
http://img252.imageshack.us/img252/7858/16727156058133001ts9.jpghttp://img252.imageshack.us/img252/1431/1672715454773300ib7.jpg

stealthrt
03-27-2007, 02:24 PM
yah i know hell fire,ur right i should be happy with what i go, hell im proud of not driving a hand down from my parents.. for now its more than enought and if i were to spend 12k in two years why not get a new car likea 80s corvette or sum nice classic car.



You know, I love my car, and all 3000gt's/stealth's.. but DO NOT compare our cars to a corvette as a CLASSIC car..

want to compare performance, etc.. fine (not your car but a vr4)
BUT, you think a 3/s is a collectors car? WOW

HalfBaked
03-27-2007, 02:33 PM
Just wait until your dad passes and use inheritance money to take your car to a shop and have them do all the work...

That sounds like a smart thing to do.

TIGERJC
03-27-2007, 02:38 PM
You're 16 and you want a 400whp car, RIP. Just add an exhaust system and air intake on that car, then just learn how to drive for the next 2 years.

getto301
03-27-2007, 02:59 PM
You know, I love my car, and all 3000gt's/stealth's.. but DO NOT compare our cars to a corvette as a CLASSIC car..

want to compare performance, etc.. fine (not your car but a vr4)
BUT, you think a 3/s is a collectors car? WOW

i seriously dont know if you still have a 7th graders reading skills but i said
" yah i know hell fire,ur right i should be happy with what i go, hell im proud of not driving a hand down from my parents.. for now its more than enought and if i were to spend 12k in two years why not get a new car like a 80s corvette or sum nice classic car."

you cant read.

stealthrt
03-27-2007, 03:11 PM
i seriously dont know if you still have a 7th graders reading skills but i said
" yah i know hell fire,ur right i should be happy with what i go, hell im proud of not driving a hand down from my parents.. for now its more than enought and if i were to spend 12k in two years why not get a new car like a 80s corvette or sum nice classic car."

you cant read.



apparently not, probably because I stoped trying to read thoroughly through your useless babbling a while ago.

"B"
03-27-2007, 04:07 PM
getto, that car looks nice bro. You just need to know how to approach a forum like this where you will get roasted for any given comment.

WickedIXMR
03-28-2007, 05:50 PM
LOL you sir are a complete dumbass. You never even been above 70 which just shows you cant drive a car, dont know shit about cars. So are you gonna put iridium plugs and copper plugs in your car? LOL and a 92mm head gasket? LOL you dont even know what parts to put in your car to even make power lol

WickedIXMR
03-28-2007, 05:51 PM
apparently not, probably because I stoped trying to read thoroughly through your useless babbling a while ago.
LOL he needs to stay in school to learn how to type

AnclyT
03-28-2007, 09:59 PM
i think you should start off by getting the TORNADO intake thing

Vuongy_Dong
03-29-2007, 01:01 AM
i think you should start off by getting the TORNADO intake thing
Imma put one in your charge pipe tomorrow. one in each end of your intercooler. :goodjob:

RandomGuy
03-29-2007, 01:10 AM
why are you guys ruining his dreams

by the way the mod list i gave is good, tried, and proven, I have a few friends in Jersey with that setup all making 450whp or more.

The iridium plugs are nice and the copper plugs are good too, just put all the front side plugs as iridium and put copper plugs in the rear side. Gap the rear plugs to 5.0mm, which leaves perfect spark.

With that given your power band will launch crazy at mid RPM's (ideal for light to light racing) and you can just get a rear differential and it bolts right on, you don't even need axles, just the rear diff and it swaps over the AWD setup from the VR-4 ... The transmission in the SL is actually stronger than the VR-4 Tranny so it'd be a good hybrid.
Get intake/exhaust and the VAFC II, and 300cc injectors are not bad given the car is boosted and the air/fuel mixture needs to be tweaked, its ideal, 750cc is too big and will flood the engine out at anything higher than 7psi. You do not want this. Smaller, higher duty cycle injectors (~140%) will throw way more fuel and have a higher refresh rate 1080P @ 120hz. Get a turbonator or an electric supercharger off of ebay (they are relatively cheap and give great gains) http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Electric-Supercharger-TURBO-universal_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ33742QQitemZ1 60100270492QQrdZ1QQsspagenameZWDVW

with that given your stock car will be pushing about 300-350whp, given on amount of voltage, therefore boost

DO all of the other mods I listed and you'd have one sickk reliable beast for cheap (as long as everything is done right)

Z32 MAF is crucial to keep your oil pressure at absolute minimum to keep turbulence and boost spikes down, it acts as a velocity stack inside the exhaust camshaft.


so yeah this list has been tried and proven many times. Try it out

Hektik
03-29-2007, 01:20 AM
*tsk*tsk RG.lol...


truthfully the best thing you can do right now is just do *real* research on your car.. buy books, go online stuff like that for a while. there is so much that u still need to learn. that realistically even if u pushed your car over 300hp you still wouldnt have the knowledge on how to drive it properly.. keep the car stock for a while just do the routine maintenance on it to keep it running good. and drive it drive it everyday as much as you can. learn your cars in and outs first then worry about uprading it or getting better performance out of it. you say you havent even been over 70 so why would you want 400hp what woulkd you do with it once you get to 70? theres no reason to go that big yet...also dont listen to your freinds advice.learn on your own and do lots of reading....

stealthrt
03-29-2007, 01:48 AM
*tsk*tsk RG.lol...


truthfully the best thing you can do right now is just do *real* research on your car.. buy books, go online stuff like that for a while. there is so much that u still need to learn. that realistically even if u pushed your car over 300hp you still wouldnt have the knowledge on how to drive it properly.. keep the car stock for a while just do the routine maintenance on it to keep it running good. and drive it drive it everyday as much as you can. learn your cars in and outs first then worry about uprading it or getting better performance out of it. you say you havent even been over 70 so why would you want 400hp what woulkd you do with it once you get to 70? theres no reason to go that big yet...also dont listen to your freinds advice.learn on your own and do lots of reading....

I dunno, randomguy seems to be on the right track............

Hektik
03-29-2007, 01:51 AM
I dunno, randomguy seems to be on the right track............


well yea but thats only if want to build a powerfull car that most people cant even control........................................... ...................:ninja:

Benefit
03-29-2007, 07:35 AM
2 words.

electric supercharger.

LMAO @ randomguy