Ls/b20 vtec or Poor mans type r

[TheChosenOne]

Should I build an ls/vtec, b20/vtec, or a poor mans type r. Right now im really big on the frankinstein theme, but I want something thats gunna last, and be quick.

For all practical purposes, they all put down enough power for me to be happy (I think) but which one will have the most power, and which one will be the most reliable. Prolly two different answers, but I just want some feed back.

[Z33_kid]

frankinstein theme k24 ftmfw !!!! lol

[99SI]

What do you have in it now?

[CHADbee]

boosted LS

[-S Double C-]

h2b h22 swap if you feel like spending about 2500 at least.

[TheChosenOne]

This is going to be a project. Right now I got a gsr eg, but Im THINKING about getting a 4dr Da and starting from scratch. I want to get something better than the stock ls and I want to build it from the ground up.

I just cant decide on the exact setup. Even if I did narrow it down to an ls/b20 vtec, then I have to decide the type of head. Should I use a gsr head or a b16 head. But then again, if im gunna go through all that trouble, why don't I just build a poor man's type r. To many options right now.

[TheChosenOne]

ay, where can you get the H2B bracket??? just curious...:ninja::ninja::ninja:

[silversol]

boosted gsr FTW

[TheChosenOne]

uhhh... I just want to stay in the hybrid category...lol. But a boosted gsr isn't that bad of an idea.

[m0b3atz]

jordon!!!!!!! hah wut up its moe man do wuts in mine man b20 vtec ..
get a b20 block for cheap dont kno exactly than a gsr head add the fuel line for vtec and than ur a frankinstein like mine and when u drove it that day it was off of 3 cylinders lmao and evryoen was like damn it pulls now u gotta drive it ...

mmmmmm baaaaaaaa all day long baby hahahah nah man im too drunk pce.. hit me up man o ya i got a black top now instead of that redtop

oh ya trade me ill do it anyday i want that hatch clean man

[TheChosenOne]

lol... ya man, iv'e gotta drive it now!!

[MIami-boy]

build a poor man's type r for your hatch, b20 vtec for the da, then build a ls/vtec when one of them blows up.

[TheChosenOne]

^^^ when I find $15,000 then i'll consider it...lol.

[swolejamaica]

Put a j-spec single in that da!! LOL

[IndianStig]

get a b20/vtec. build it! stick it in a DA

[-S Double C-]

ay, where can you get the H2B bracket??? just curious...:ninja::ninja::ninja:

http://www.honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1806590

or

http://quartersportsdrag.com/

im running the evolution kit it's better in my opinion and it requires less work.

[MIami-boy]

^^^ when I find $15,000 then i'll consider it...lol.

i didnt mean all at once

[TheChosenOne]

DAMN! $1,300 just for the bracket! I build a stock ls/vtec for that price! (not including tuning)... I think the h2b might be outta my league...lol. thanks though. By the time I save up enough money for the h2b, I might as well get a k-swap!

[LS2ner]

If you want it to be a more reliable b20 or LS/vtec then use a GSR head. If you wanna keep it relatively stock then do a poor man's type r. With the pmtr you use the type r mani, throttle body, cams, valve train, etc...Which makes for a decent set-up stock. If you have any intentions of building it then just do the ls/vtec and get the power you will really be wanting.

[TheChosenOne]

LS2nerIf you want it to be a more reliable b20 or LS/vtec then use a GSR head. If you wanna keep it relatively stock then do a poor man's type r. With the pmtr you use the type r mani, throttle body, cams, valve train, etc...Which makes for a decent set-up stock. If you have any intentions of building it then just do the ls/vtec and get the power you will really be wanting.
What are you talking about???:screwy: :screwy:

"With the pmtr you use the type r mani, throttle body, cams, valve train, etc...Which makes for a decent set-up stock..."
How in the world do you consider, a gsr block and a b16 head with a typr r vavle train stock? Poor man's type r would be the most expensive setup out of all of them imo.

Im confused now?

[99SI]

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What are you talking about???:screwy: :screwy:

"With the pmtr you use the type r mani, throttle body, cams, valve train, etc...Which makes for a decent set-up stock..."
How in the world do you consider, a gsr block and a b16 head with a typr r vavle train stock? Poor man's type r would be the most expensive setup out of all of them imo.

Im confused now?
Stock, because it is all OEM Honda Parts. PR3 head, B18c block, ITR cams/valvetrain. No aftermarket parts for it. BUT IF YOU WANT TO DO AFTERMARKET CAMS/VALVETRAIN then it doesn't really matter. IF you really want to get creative get a K24 from a CRV, run a K20A3 ivtec head from an EP3 si. It would be a torque monster motor, great for a four door Teg. Plus it would leave you room for much more in upgrades and potential. The CRV K24 and the EP3 Si head are relatively inexpensive to get and would be fun plus different and probably wouldn't cost much more if any than doing a Poor man's type R or a good LS/VTEC

[IntegraXTR]

keep the gsr, throw a pr3 head on and make a poor mans R. Solid setup

[m0b3atz]

ayyy like i said trade me man ill give u my b20 vtec i rapped a g35 i want that hatch u have

[LS2ner]

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What are you talking about???:screwy: :screwy: )

"With the pmtr you use the type r mani, throttle body, cams, valve train, etc...Which makes for a decent set-up stock..."
How in the world do you consider, a gsr block and a b16 head with a typr r vavle train stock? Poor man's type r would be the most expensive setup out of all of them imo.

Im confused now?


99si basically covered what i meant. And i consider the poor mans type r stock, because you use stock OEM parts. Its makes for a decent set-up using OEM parts...where as a Stock (OEM) LS/vtec makes a lil less power than it. If he intends to use aftermarket parts (valvetrain, rotating assembly, etc.) then he might aswell build an LS/Vtec and get more power. If you start putting aftermarket shit in a poor mans type r than it isnt really a type r anymore, which unless im wrong defeats the purpose of building a poor mans type r.

[LS2ner]

Stock, because it is all OEM Honda Parts. PR3 head, B18c block, ITR cams/valvetrain. No aftermarket parts for it. BUT IF YOU WANT TO DO AFTERMARKET CAMS/VALVETRAIN then it doesn't really matter. IF you really want to get creative get a K24 from a CRV, run a K20A3 ivtec head from an EP3 si. It would be a torque monster motor, great for a four door Teg. Plus it would leave you room for much more in upgrades and potential. The CRV K24 and the EP3 Si head are relatively inexpensive to get and would be fun plus different and probably wouldn't cost much more if any than doing a Poor man's type R or a good LS/VTEC

And yes i agree, a k20/24 would be a damn good idea.

[TheChosenOne]

And yes i agree, a k20/24 would be a damn good idea.

The only thing about that, is the fact that I think your forgetting the price of the tranny...:D . yyyaaaaaa..... lol. Now matter what I do, as far as b-series go, i'll already have a tranny, but if i go k-series, then i gotta drop all that kash on a freakin' transmission!

Well, I got the car now, and I got a little something-something that im working on that might turn a few heads. Unless anyone has a suggestion on how to swap a k in a 90' DB1 for less than $2,500, then I would say.... STAY TUNED!:ninja:

[LS2ner]

Im debating on whether or not to drop my LS/Vtec into my DA or whether im just going to sell em both.

[TheChosenOne]

do you alreay have the ls/vtec, or are you going to build it???

[GSRteg®]

I would go poor man's Type-R if it was me!:D

[TheChosenOne]

Iv'e pretty much made up my mind, and I'm going poor man's type r. I'm building it from the ground up. It should be pretty nice.

[B0snian]

:bannana: Poor mans Type R FTW!

[Mr2raceworks]

LS/VTEC is better than a type R, it ain't not poor man's type R, you get more Torque out the gate

[bernard]

Well im late for you bro. I've got several homies in cali doing the B20 vtec, and its nasty man. Compare your options, and look at how much you wanna spend. In my opinon, B20 vtec will be cheaper. But consider if you ever wanna boost it, the walls are thin. Ive got home girl has a B20 vtec built and boosted and she is killin katz in cali. To me i try to be different. Everyone is doing the poor mans r. But like i said time and money and if its built right. Then it will be reliable. Just my:2cents:

[GaGen2Teg]

depends on what you want...b20/v will give a torque monster, ls/vtec is just ls/vtec haha basically the same as b20/v just less torque and poor mans type r is a no no well atleast thats what i think...just my :2cents:
honestly id do ls/vtec

[RISKYB]

b20 vtec is always a nice combo

[JDM onlyy]

this thread is soooo old. haven't you guys noticed his signature? it says eg with poor man's type r for sale... I'm guessing he went with the poor man's type r and now he's selling it...lol

[JDMjoe]

Poor mans type r :goodjob:

[v8killacivic]

b20 vtec man...love the torque..