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JustNoBody
02-28-2007, 07:10 PM
Found this today now tell me the 350Z and Viper are better cars.
Tell me what you think.

http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&videoid=1342124239

HachiDori
02-28-2007, 07:10 PM
Thread failure.
z06>viper>350z

Mr_Mischif
02-28-2007, 07:22 PM
Good link:

http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&videoid=1342124239

OneSlow5pt0
02-28-2007, 07:32 PM
Good link:

http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&videoid=1342124239

thanks,that was a nice vid

Leadfoot_mf
02-28-2007, 08:00 PM
repost the z06 is the best bang for buck out there.

Greddypacked
02-28-2007, 08:11 PM
Finally a USDM car that can put the other exotics into a wow state!

Ericp
02-28-2007, 08:31 PM
GOD DAMN I LOVE THE NEW Z06! Well I love vette's anyway.

AnthonyF
02-28-2007, 08:38 PM
best bang for the buck, i'd have to say is the 03-04 Cobra. 400hp stock. Thats my opinion tho. Numerous mods for a great hp increase with little money


btw- i never said the viper is the best car out there. Nor does any viper owner. b/c we are reasonable. vette owners are hard headed thinking their shit rules the world

speedminded
02-28-2007, 08:40 PM
best bang for the buck, i'd have to say is the 03-04 Cobra. 400hp stock. Thats my opinion tho. Numerous mods for a great hp increase with little money


btw- i never said the viper is the best car out there. Nor does nay viper owner. b/c we are reasonable. vette owners are hard headed thinking their shit rules the worldbut you still have to put $5k more into the suspenion and tires to get it to handle :tongue:

AnthonyF
02-28-2007, 08:42 PM
^^^^ true dat. but they aren't track cars. just straight line red neck racing :):)

198plus
02-28-2007, 09:16 PM
:lmfao:
best bang for the buck, i'd have to say is the 03-04 Cobra. 400hp stock. Thats my opinion tho. Numerous mods for a great hp increase with little money


btw- i never said the viper is the best car out there. Nor does any viper owner. b/c we are reasonable. vette owners are hard headed thinking their shit rules the world

efman
02-28-2007, 10:10 PM
repost the z06 is the best bang for buck out there.
wait i thought a late 80's s10 was the best bang for the buck ! :D
lol just thought of that :taun:

BuBBa DRiFT
02-28-2007, 10:14 PM
that english guy is a smart ass hahhaaa


"Fast food Restaurants" Hes calling Americans fat!
"IRAQI RESTAURANTS....WELL THAT SHUT HER UP!" hahhaah

Capt._Ron
02-28-2007, 10:22 PM
The terminator cobras are flat out sick in a straight line. Throw a smaller pulley on that bitch and go.

Hundo®
02-28-2007, 10:32 PM
that guys an idiot. i dont hate the z06, it's a nice car, way over priced though.

198plus
02-28-2007, 10:43 PM
Go watch video again , pay close attention to what cars it beat on whatttttttttt track then come back and tell everybody that there not track cars again.
^^^^ true dat. but they aren't track cars. just straight line red neck racing :):)

JustNoBody
02-28-2007, 10:47 PM
best bang for the buck, i'd have to say is the 03-04 Cobra. 400hp stock. Thats my opinion tho. Numerous mods for a great hp increase with little money


btw- i never said the viper is the best car out there. Nor does any viper owner. b/c we are reasonable. vette owners are hard headed thinking their shit rules the world

I like mustangs always have, I love the sound a ford block with single chambers make. But I'm floored by the fact you can leave the show room and drive the vett strait to the track either road course or drag strip. It's a pure bread race car. And as for vett owners being "hard headed" and "think their shit rules the world" It's becouse what else for under $100,000 will out run and look as nice as the vett? I think the way they act is because of money they may have not the car. I know a lot of vett owners who do not think their "shit don't stink" they are nice guys for the most part. I also know a few viper owners who are jerks. Also you have to take into consideration how many vipers vs. vetts you see on the road. I'm sure there are viper owners that act the same way you describe. And if we saw more of them I'd bet on more of them being asses.

Greddypacked
02-28-2007, 11:08 PM
Nah you see you just need to know how to talk to the assholes that's all. Just get on their level and talk their language lol.

man
03-01-2007, 02:00 AM
Go watch video again , pay close attention to what cars it beat on whatttttttttt track then come back and tell everybody that there not track cars again.

See, that's the only problem with the Z06 for me, they are great on the track but horrible otherwise. I like how the video leaves out the part right after, where Clarkson specifically says "as something to live with everyday, I'd rather have bird flu."

There's no question about it being a great performer, but there's a reason it's only $70k, where as say the Ferrari is more expensive. The Ferrari can do the exact same thing, but with a beautiful body, gorgeous paint, an astounding interior, and just overall build quality in general.

Watch this video and you'll understand. http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2340551138694118409

BlkCD5
03-01-2007, 02:12 AM
:stupid:

Its all about build quality, but some people could care less. I do have to agree the vette has stepped up in that category

sleepys4
03-01-2007, 02:42 AM
I never really like these. But this one you must admit, is a pretty nice car. Def. Best bang for the buck.

AnthonyF
03-01-2007, 06:43 AM
Go watch video again , pay close attention to what cars it beat on whatttttttttt track then come back and tell everybody that there not track cars again.

i was talking about the ford mustang dumb fucking asshole. bring your piece of shit to the mopar meet, i bet you, ALL of the viper owners there will be willing to put you in your place. fucking bitch.

Hundo®
03-01-2007, 07:06 AM
I like mustangs always have, I love the sound a ford block with single chambers make. But I'm floored by the fact you can leave the show room and drive the vett strait to the track either road course or drag strip. It's a pure bread race car. And as for vett owners being "hard headed" and "think their shit rules the world" It's becouse what else for under $100,000 will out run and look as nice as the vett? I think the way they act is because of money they may have not the car. I know a lot of vett owners who do not think their "shit don't stink" they are nice guys for the most part. I also know a few viper owners who are jerks. Also you have to take into consideration how many vipers vs. vetts you see on the road. I'm sure there are viper owners that act the same way you describe. And if we saw more of them I'd bet on more of them being asses.


stock? not a ton, but i can put together 100+ cars that will take a huge dump on the vette. for the $ youspend on it.

iloveboost
03-01-2007, 08:28 AM
stock? not a ton, but i can put together 100+ cars that will take a huge dump on the vette. for the $ youspend on it.
That's no revelation here. $2,000 Civic + $20,000 engine or an Evo with about $15,000 would kill a Corvette, Viper, Ferrari... you name it.

Find another car that will run low 11s right off the showroom floor. How about a bone stock car with drag radials running mid 10s. I promise the price won't be near the $69,000 base price the Corvette is toting.

Hundo®
03-01-2007, 09:29 AM
That's no revelation here. $2,000 Civic + $20,000 engine or an Evo with about $15,000 would kill a Corvette, Viper, Ferrari... you name it.

Find another car that will run low 11s right off the showroom floor. How about a bone stock car with drag radials running mid 10s. I promise the price won't be near the $69,000 base price the Corvette is toting.


so what? if i spent 70k it'd better be that fucking good, and i dont mean civics, you can have cars thatlook twice as good and go twice as fast as the zo6 for the money you spend. it's a waste, completely overpriced.

Brady
03-01-2007, 09:46 AM
so what? if i spent 70k it'd better be that fucking good, and i dont mean civics, you can have cars thatlook twice as good and go twice as fast as the zo6 for the money you spend. it's a waste, completely overpriced.
hmph...says the guy with a 350z. How much do you have to spend to get that into the 11's without blowing up on its 3rd run and without having to run a 116 mix or having to retune for the drive home?

The corvette is really not overpriced. AMG's are overpriced, M's are overpriced.

The z06 is way cheaper in the competitive market for its class.

Halfwit
03-01-2007, 09:52 AM
hmph...says the guy with a 350z. How much do you have to spend to get that into the 11's without blowing up on its 3rd run and without having to run a 116 mix or having to retune for the drive home?

The corvette is really not overpriced. AMG's are overpriced, M's are overpriced.

The z06 is way cheaper in the competitive market for its class.
exactly, and who cares if u can " build a civic faster for cheaper"
1: it wont be reliable ( at that power level)
2: it wont be comfortable ( or as easy to drive)
3: not as stable

4: this car was designed forra specific reason (mix of speed/reliability/stability/handling/comfort/style) and for the price is worth it.

Hundo®
03-01-2007, 10:14 AM
hmph...says the guy with a 350z. How much do you have to spend to get that into the 11's without blowing up on its 3rd run and without having to run a 116 mix or having to retune for the drive home?

The corvette is really not overpriced. AMG's are overpriced, M's are overpriced.

The z06 is way cheaper in the competitive market for its class.


the transmission problems were fixed in 04 mid way, i've never heard of a VQ motor blowing unless the idiot didnt replace his internals and ran too much PSI. the car cost me $22, for another $40 i could be running 10's and out track and out look a zo6 no problem. i dont know where you got all these retune crap, a built motor with APS or Greddy TT can run 650 hp run a 10 second 1/4 mile and be daily driven no problem.

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03-01-2007, 10:26 AM
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Halfwit
03-01-2007, 10:27 AM
the transmission problems were fixed in 04 mid way, i've never heard of a VQ motor blowing unless the idiot didnt replace his internals and ran too much PSI. the car cost me $22, for another $40 i could be running 10's and out track and out look a zo6 no problem. i dont know where you got all these retune crap, a built motor with APS or Greddy TT can run 650 hp run a 10 second 1/4 mile and be daily driven no problem.
out looka zo6? thats an opinion- dismissed
run tens- believeable, but i dont believe it can be dded that way ( and get the gas mileage the zo6 gets)

JustNoBody
03-01-2007, 10:35 AM
And to get it there you will spend almost as much as the sticker on the Z06. Not to mention the fact you bought yours used and we are comparing new cars price on the Z06. And the Z06 will always look better. And you said you can get a car twice as fast?
Z06= 11.3@127mph in th 1/4 Top speed 198 0-60 in 3.7sec

So you are telling me you can have a car that will run this:
5.65@254mph in 1/4 Top speed 396mph 0-60 1.85sec

If you know who can build this I want to know so I can buy it.

Hundo®
03-01-2007, 10:42 AM
And to get it there you will spend almost as much as the sticker on the Z06. Not to mention the fact you bought yours used and we are comparing new cars price on the Z06. And the Z06 will always look better. And you said you can get a car twice as fast?
Z06= 11.3@127mph in th 1/4 Top speed 198 0-60 in 3.7sec

So you are telling me you can have a car that will run this:
5.65@254mph in 1/4 Top speed 396mph 0-60 1.85sec

If you know who can build this I want to know so I can buy it.


you're an idiot, and yes thats what im saying, for sticker on a zo6 you can get a better car, and halfwit you can buy a new Z for 26k 07, i bought mine used with 5k miles for 22, it's an 04, either way, my argument stands, for the $ you spend on that car you can have a car thats faster/better looking/better on the track. the only reason i would get a zo6 is if i wanted no part in modding, just wanted to have a fast, stock, car. i know people that get 19 mpg on their TT 600+ HP Z's the zo6 doesnt even compare to that. it's also american which means it aint lasting very long, it's cheaplymade.

Halfwit
03-01-2007, 10:47 AM
you're an idiot, and yes thats what im saying, for sticker on a zo6 you can get a better car, and halfwit you can buy a new Z for 26k 07, i bought mine used with 5k miles for 22, it's an 04, either way, my argument stands, for the $ you spend on that car you can have a car thats faster/better looking/better on the track. the only reason i would get a zo6 is if i wanted no part in modding, just wanted to have a fast, stock, car. i know people that get 19 mpg on their TT 600+ HP Z's the zo6 doesnt even compare to that. it's also american which means it aint lasting very long, it's cheaplymade.
19 mpg with 600 hp, but NOT RUNNIGN 600 WHP, TUNED DOWN TO 8 PSI YEAH THEY CAN GET 19 MPG, but not runnig at what it would take to beat a zo6

JustNoBody
03-01-2007, 10:49 AM
you're an idiot, and yes thats what im saying, for sticker on a zo6 you can get a better car, and halfwit you can buy a new Z for 26k 07, i bought mine used with 5k miles for 22, it's an 04, either way, my argument stands, for the $ you spend on that car you can have a car thats faster/better looking/better on the track. the only reason i would get a zo6 is if i wanted no part in modding, just wanted to have a fast, stock, car. i know people that get 19 mpg on their TT 600+ HP Z's the zo6 doesnt even compare to that. it's also american which means it aint lasting very long, it's cheaplymade.

If I were you I would leave the name calling out of this. We are having or trying to have a civil thread. You start with getting personal to me and you will not have to worry about what car looks better or how much you spend. I will find you and when I do you will wish you did live in Japan!!!!!!!!

Halfwit
03-01-2007, 10:52 AM
If I were you I would leave the name calling out of this. We are having or trying to have a civil thread. You start with getting personal to me and you will not have to worry about what car looks better or how much you spend. I will find you and when I do you will wish you did live in Japan!!!!!!!!
lol but +1 for keeping it civil, trying to win an argument by calling names is GAY

198plus
03-01-2007, 10:54 AM
If I were you I would leave the name calling out of this. We are having or trying to have a civil thread. You start with getting personal to me and you will not have to worry about what car looks better or how much you spend. I will find you and when I do you will wish you did live in Japan!!!!!!!!
I AGREE :cheers:

BlkCD5
03-01-2007, 11:03 AM
This topic has been beaten to fucking death :screwy: . For what it offers, i say the Z06 is a "bargain sports car" for its class. I don't even know why you guys are bickering over this when many reviews have stated what it is.

81911SC
03-01-2007, 11:05 AM
911>C6 911GT3>Z06

Hundo®
03-01-2007, 11:10 AM
If I were you I would leave the name calling out of this. We are having or trying to have a civil thread. You start with getting personal to me and you will not have to worry about what car looks better or how much you spend. I will find you and when I do you will wish you did live in Japan!!!!!!!!


what a big man you are.

Halfwit
03-01-2007, 11:11 AM
what a big man you are.
what a big man you are arguing like a 5 year old. name calling, shit i feel like im in 3rd grade.

JustNoBody
03-01-2007, 11:18 AM
what a big man you are.

Look man all I'm saying is if you have to call names to get your point accrost than don't have an opinion. I don't take name calling lightly. Especially when I don't come at you that way.

JustNoBody
03-01-2007, 11:23 AM
what a big man you are arguing like a 5 year old. name calling, shit i feel like im in 3rd grade.

lol! +1 For the hate of ignorance!

iloveboost
03-01-2007, 11:41 AM
Dollar for dollar, no matter the mod... whatever you do to a 350Z, and spend the same amount on a Z06... the Z06 will always be faster.

I bet my stock Z06 would slaughter any bolt-on 350Z out there. I'd be willing to bet it'd even pull on a Supercharged 350Z.

Ericp
03-01-2007, 11:59 AM
I agree with what people are saying that you could spend half of the money on a cheaper car to beat the new Z06. However it would probably be only in a straight line and not reliable. Plus think about it, you spent what 20+K to beat a STOCK Z06. You know you can mod those to right???? I wish people would leave the whole "if this car had that" game alone. It goes both ways and it's a never ending arguement.

198plus
03-01-2007, 12:10 PM
My money is on you. Any takers ???
Dollar for dollar, no matter the mod... whatever you do to a 350Z, and spend the same amount on a Z06... the Z06 will always be faster.

I bet my stock Z06 would slaughter any bolt-on 350Z out there. I'd be willing to bet it'd even pull on a Supercharged 350Z.

BlkCD5
03-01-2007, 12:33 PM
nope, cus they already know...lol :yes:

Hundo®
03-01-2007, 01:49 PM
Dollar for dollar, no matter the mod... whatever you do to a 350Z, and spend the same amount on a Z06... the Z06 will always be faster.

I bet my stock Z06 would slaughter any bolt-on 350Z out there. I'd be willing to bet it'd even pull on a Supercharged 350Z.


you have a v8 with near 500 hp, full bolt on V6 Z's are lucky to pull 300 whp

a properly supercharged Z would beat you, with a proper drive stage 4 stillen Z's run mid 12's. at a low 8-9 psi on a stock block.

and if you think that for $60,000 i couldnt make a faster Z than a stock z06, then you're just missing a few brain cells, if i had 40 thousand extra dollars to spend on speed upgrades and i couldnt get 500 whp then id have to be a worthless human being, hell for that much $ i could drop a v8 in a z and turbo/supercharge THAT, where's your head at?

Hundo®
03-01-2007, 01:50 PM
what a big man you are arguing like a 5 year old. name calling, shit i feel like im in 3rd grade.

i meant ot call him a smart ass since i was obviously exagerating TWICE as fast as a zo6, he had to put up numbers like i was 100% serious that there would be a top speed car of 398 mph -.-

speedminded
03-01-2007, 01:57 PM
you have a v8 with near 500 hp, full bolt on V6 Z's are lucky to pull 300 whp

a properly supercharged Z would beat you, with a proper drive stage 4 stillen Z's run mid 12's.

and if you think that for $60,000 i couldnt make a faster Z than a stock z06, then you're just missing a few brain cells, if i had 40 thousand extra dollars to spend on speed upgrades and i couldnt get 500 whp then id have to be a worthless human being, hell for that much $ i could drop a v8 in a z and turbo/supercharge THAT, where's your head at?Hate to say it but you'll never win man, give it up. Sadly you won't get the Z to handle anywhere near as well and dollar for dollar out of the box it has the 350z beat.

Then technically under the 1976 Magnuson Moss act you should be covered but good luck trying to get any warranty work done on a Z that heavily modified, you'll get laughed at.

AnthonyF
03-01-2007, 02:01 PM
SPEEDMINDED-always full of wisdom. :) i feel smarter already.



just end the discussion. to prove who has the faster car, get your asses to whoreslounge, call each other out, do whatever you gotta do. we've past the line of trying to talk this shit out. ITS DONE. let it go.

JustNoBody
03-01-2007, 02:09 PM
i meant ot call him a smart ass since i was obviously exagerating TWICE as fast as a zo6, he had to put up numbers like i was 100% serious that there would be a top speed car of 398 mph -.-

I thought it was damn funny.:lmfao:

198plus
03-01-2007, 02:34 PM
I could get a used c5 zo6 then it would be dollar for dollar and beat the handling,top speep,1/4 mile of the 350 z and if yall don't believe that, get your money out. iloveboost has already said bring them on . WOULD'NT STAND A CHANCE IN HELL!!!!!!!!!!
Hate to say it but you'll never win man, give it up. Sadly you won't get the Z to handle anywhere near as well and dollar for dollar out of the box it has the 350z beat.

Then technically under the 1976 Magnuson Moss act you should be covered but good luck trying to get any warranty work done on a Z that heavily modified, you'll get laughed at.

iloveboost
03-01-2007, 02:40 PM
Here's the callout.

http://www.importatlanta.com/forums/showthread.php?t=108659

Benefit
03-01-2007, 02:48 PM
7liter v8...pshh, its only making like 70hp per liter...haha j/k , still a very very nice car....

















skylines better

man
03-01-2007, 03:12 PM
skylines better

No.

Mike Lowrey
03-01-2007, 05:11 PM
Found this today now tell me the 350Z and Viper are better cars.
Tell me what you think.

http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&videoid=1342124239

WTF?

How do you even put the 350z in the same sentance with the z06 and viper? That is just stupid. Take the 350z out of it. Would never be considered in the same group, stock or modified.

JustNoBody
03-01-2007, 06:55 PM
WTF?

How do you even put the 350z in the same sentance with the z06 and viper? That is just stupid. Take the 350z out of it. Would never be considered in the same group, stock or modified.

It came from another conversation with two guys one loving 350Z and the other a viper.

man
03-01-2007, 07:02 PM
This whole argument is dumb and has been going on since the beginning of time. There's always someone with a faster car.

tony
03-01-2007, 07:18 PM
whoa whoa.. lol just came across this thread

The comparison? There isn't ONE! The Z06 is geared for top end and the 350Z isn't simply put. I raced a C5 Z06 in my Twin Turbo G35,

Side note: Generally TT VQ vs Supercharged VQ the TT will win

I shifted twice while the Z06 stayed in one gear, I barely won one pull and got my doors blown off on another. I actually have a video of a Supercharged Z vs. a Z06 and the 350Z did suprisingly well but it still lost, its not built for high horsepower.. all you get is wheel spin and a broken transmission.

Once you spend all the money and the headaches you realize you could have had a C6 Z06 with the same or better performance with a warranty.

198plus
03-01-2007, 07:28 PM
Thank you.Would love to see video please post it for us.
whoa whoa.. lol just came across this thread

The comparison? There isn't ONE! The Z06 is geared for top end and the 350Z isn't simply put. I raced a C5 Z06 in my Twin Turbo G35,

Side note: Generally TT VQ vs Supercharged VQ the TT will win

I shifted twice while the Z06 stayed in one gear, I barely won one pull and got my doors blown off on another. I actually have a video of a Supercharged Z vs. a Z06 and the 350Z did suprisingly well but it still lost, its not built for high horsepower.. all you get is wheel spin and a broken transmission.

Once you spend all the money and the headaches you realize you could have had a C6 Z06 with the same or better performance with a warranty.

tony
03-01-2007, 07:54 PM
http://www.panhandlez.com/z06-350zv3.wmv

right click save as

unkn0wndj
03-01-2007, 07:55 PM
whoa whoa.. lol just came across this thread

The comparison? There isn't ONE! The Z06 is geared for top end and the 350Z isn't simply put. I raced a C5 Z06 in my Twin Turbo G35,

Side note: Generally TT VQ vs Supercharged VQ the TT will win

I shifted twice while the Z06 stayed in one gear, I barely won one pull and got my doors blown off on another. I actually have a video of a Supercharged Z vs. a Z06 and the 350Z did suprisingly well but it still lost, its not built for high horsepower.. all you get is wheel spin and a broken transmission.

Once you spend all the money and the headaches you realize you could have had a C6 Z06 with the same or better performance with a warranty.

Exactly what I was thinking. Thanks for stating my exact opinion.

tony
03-01-2007, 07:59 PM
No problem, you'll notice in the video that the Supercharged 350Z does well when he's actually in gear but when he has to shift its all over, the Z06 is gone. I'm not sure what the redline on the Z06 is but on a blown Z its around 6800rpm's and it comes up QUICK.. so you do a lot of shifting.

_Christian_
03-04-2007, 11:27 AM
you cant find a faster car for the money stock for stock. plus you ave a warranty to go with it. it is reliable at 500hp, plus its a real sports car not some hopped up rice burner. + u can get mad p00n with that car. and if you guys wanna talk mods, you can do one hell of a lot with 7liters of displacement. oh and on the video fast food ftmfw.