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man
02-26-2007, 12:46 AM
2008 BMW M3 - Auto Shows
The M3 returns with more than 400 horsepower from a high-revving V-8.
BY MIKE DUSHANE, PHOTOGRAPHY BY HANS G. LEHMANN/HIDDEN IMAGE
February 2007


The BMW M3 has been on car nuts’ short wish list since the first-generation M3 debuted in 1988. Over the course of three generations, the M3 grew from that four-cylinder glorified go-kart into a stunningly capable GT car. But the formula remained constant: Combine the relatively small, compact 3-series body with a race-derived engine and maintain class-leading handling. The fourth-generation M3, shown here undisguised in advance of its debut in Geneva next month, doesn’t stray from the proven formula.

Unlike the second- and third-generation M3s, which had inline-sixes, the 2008 M3 will have a high-revving, naturally aspirated V-8. The 4.0-liter engine is based on the 5.0-liter V-10 from the current M5, but minus two cylinders (and the corresponding liter of displacement). With direct injection and variable valve timing, we expect it to produce approximately 410 horsepower and 310 pound-feet of torque. The all-aluminum engine will weigh about the same as the outgoing M3’s aluminum-and-iron inline-six, so the 2008 M3 won’t weigh much more than the outgoing car—about 3500 pounds. To the relief of enthusiasts everywhere, a conventional six-speed manual transmission will be standard. A seven-speed sequential manual likely will be offered later for video-game junkies and other masochists. The M3’s V-8 will produce about as much torque as the turbocharged inline-six in the 335i, but it will be fully a third more powerful. We’ve posted 4.8-to-4.9-second 0-to-60-mph times in the 335i, and we expect the M3 to do that sprint in less than 4.5 seconds. Top speed, as with most performance BMWs, will be limited to 155 mph.

The car debuting at the Geneva auto show is a so-called concept, but the only thing conceptual about it is likely to be the color. The aggressive front and rear styling, the centrally mounted quad exhausts, the 19-inch wheels, the power-domed hood, the flared fenders (vented in front), and the oval mirrors will carry over unchanged to the production 2008 M3. The coupe seen here will be the first M3 to appear in showrooms this fall, and we expect a price of about $55,000. Later, look for a convertible with a carbon-fiber retractable hardtop, a sedan, a wagon, and a lightweight coupe. The latter two likely won’t be sold in the U.S., but we haven’t given up hope yet. Whatever the body style, we’re dying to get our hands on one.

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Also Motor Trend has spy photos of a 4door M3.

Alan®
02-26-2007, 12:51 AM
hotness

IndianStig
02-26-2007, 12:56 AM
Thats a really nice car.

man
02-26-2007, 02:36 AM
Call me crazy, but I really don't like the styling of the new 3 series. They are so bland that they may as well be rebadged as a Camry.

R3RUN
02-26-2007, 03:09 AM
I WANT A NEW 3 SOOOOO BAD. I tried to convince my dad to trade in his jeep and his 325 for a new 3. I dont think hes gonna go for it though :(

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02-26-2007, 03:25 AM
2008 BMW M3 - Auto Shows
The M3 returns with more than 400 horsepower from a high-revving V-8.
BY MIKE DUSHANE, PHOTOGRAPHY BY HANS G. LEHMANN/HIDDEN IMAGE
February 2007

...we expect it to produce approximately 410 horsepower and 310 pound-feet of torque...


That HP/Tq difference sounds like a V8 honda engine to me. I dunno


...The M3’s V-8 will produce about as much torque as the turbocharged inline-six in the 335i, but it will be fully a third more powerful. We’ve posted 4.8-to-4.9-second 0-to-60-mph times in the 335i, and we expect the M3 to do that sprint in less than 4.5 seconds. Top speed, as with most performance BMWs, will be limited to 155 mph...

for 30k more it doesnt go much faster than the normal 3 series? hmm. and limited to 155? not like i'd be goin any faster than that but..thats it?

Sol-Badguy
02-26-2007, 07:41 AM
Just don't look like an M to me. It looks closer to a sedan 745Li, minus two doors.

Dirty Octopus™
02-26-2007, 08:47 AM
Call me crazy, but I really don't like the styling of the new 3 series. They are so bland that they may as well be rebadged as a Camry.
well you're not crazy. its way too big for me... i saw the first pic and thought it was a sedan... it seems as if they're trying too hard nowadays :dunno:

ATK_Designs
02-26-2007, 08:52 AM
I was expecting the New M3 to be a little more agressive.

Seems like BMW decided to stick to their old theme:

Slight different bumpers, quad exhaust, fender vents and bigger motor.

However, the V8 will either have limited potential or be very costly to play with. Unlike the regular 335i Turbo, that can be tweaked with a lot of room to play with.

Not my cup of tea. I'd rather spend that money toward the Nissan GT-R or the Lexus IS-F.

iloveboost
02-26-2007, 09:10 AM
I don't like it.

The Yousef
02-26-2007, 09:20 AM
i like the e46 better...this one will grow one me like the 5, 7, z series have done...

man
02-26-2007, 09:25 AM
That HP/Tq difference sounds like a V8 honda engine to me. I dunno

That's because of its low displacement. The stroke is very short and maximizes top end power. Look at the Ferraris, they are the same way.

Doppelgänger
02-26-2007, 09:28 AM
the whole new BMW line = boring. With the exception of the Z4 Coupe M.... now thats a nice car!

GTScoob
02-26-2007, 09:56 AM
I like it. The new BMWs are all gorgeous, I love the really detailed lines on the car.

CHADbee
02-26-2007, 10:27 AM
it looks like a mini version of the new 6 series basically. i'm not feeling it at all.

Glides
02-26-2007, 11:52 AM
the whole new BMW line = boring. With the exception of the Z4 Coupe M.... now thats a nice car!

Agreed +543515454164316

R3RUN
02-26-2007, 12:53 PM
I like it. The new BMWs are all gorgeous, I love the really detailed lines on the car.
Im with you, I dont see anything wrong with it at all.

Alan®
02-26-2007, 01:02 PM
the car is limited to 155 because of "gentlemens agreement" by all the auto manufacturers in europe but mainly germany as ferrari doesnt really abide by it. i personally love the car and i see a lot of potential for it especially with the 7spd sequential. wait for dinan to get a hold of this car and watch it take off. but really if i ever bought an m3 it would be an e36 i think it was the sexiest generation for that car.

phongt12
02-26-2007, 02:25 PM
yeah no thanks. anything from bmw nowadays is overpriced and overrated. i'll stick to lexus if i wanted a performance luxury.

MR2DR
02-26-2007, 08:19 PM
Call me crazy, but I really don't like the styling of the new 3 series. They are so bland that they may as well be rebadged as a Camry.

i agree +2314123414:yes:

mocha latte cupcake
02-26-2007, 08:21 PM
Call me crazy, but I really don't like the styling of the new 3 series. They are so bland that they may as well be rebadged as a Camry.

i'm with you on this one, its kinda ugly. :ninja:

The Green Monster
02-26-2007, 11:51 PM
i'll take the e30 :goodjob:


e30 = :leghump:

sprix!
02-27-2007, 08:11 AM
I like it, but I would rather get a 335 and call it a day. I know those things have some problems as of now, but I bet you could modify it right and run with the new M3s no problem. The 335s already can hang with e46 M3s.
As for the styling, it just looks heavy. Also, the 18s look very small. 19s are going to be a must.