Black History Month

[Hulud]

***DISCLAIMER***
Anyone that posts any form of bigotry in this thread will have their post(s) deleted.

Ok before anyone wants to jump down my throat for this post, please read and re-read what i post.

Ok whats your thoughts on Black History Month?

Personally I feel that it should be done away with, there shouldnt be one. Ok Ok here me out on this. I feel that Black History=White History=Asian History=Hispanic History=Indian History=etc... so why the color barrier on remembering a certain races history? I feel that it does no good, only makes the color barrier bigger. I mean there is no other history months for people of other races.

History is history, it is color blind. So why only recognize one race for their history?

I feel this only puts civil rights at a further disadvantage for success

Discuss

[quickdodge®]

***DISCLAIMER***
Anyone that posts any form of bigotry in this thread will have their post(s) deleted.

Ok before anyone wants to jump down my throat for this post, please read and re-read what i post.

Ok what's your thoughts on Black History Month?

Personally, I feel that it should be done away with; there shouldn't be one. Ok Ok hear me out on this. I feel that Black History=White History=Asian History=Hispanic History=Indian History=etc... so why the color barrier on remembering a certain race's history? I feel that it does no good; only makes the color barrier bigger. I mean there is no other history months for people of other races.

History is history. It is color blind. So why only recognize one race for their history?

I feel this only puts civil rights at a further disadvantage for success

Discuss

I was bored. Later, QD.

[Lucky DAWG]

i agree

I think its better to learn from the past but not live in it, its only seperating whites from blacks even more and acknowledging it.

if there's gonna be a month for something it should be world history month, as cheesy as that sounds. but something that acknowledges us together as one people's history rather then segregating like we did 40 years ago.

thats my 2 cents

[C22H19N3O4]

History is history, it is color blind.


Our history (U.S. and world) is littered with religious and racially motivated actions. How can it be color blind? You have to understand the entire scope of history.

We learn bits and pieces of what our public school systems require. Those "educators" tend to omit minorities from American history. We didn't just appear after the the Civil War.

[Lucky DAWG]

Our history (U.S. and world) is littered with religious and racially motivated actions. How can it be color blind? You have to understand the entire scope of history.

We learn bits and pieces of what our public school systems require. Those "educators" tend to omit minorities from American history. We didn't just appear after the the Civil War.

maybe in kindergarten when you learn about pilgrims and native americans sitting down being one big peaceful family lol

any more advanced class gives you a multi faceted perception

[C22H19N3O4]

maybe in kindergarten when you learn about pilgrims and native americans sitting down being one big peaceful family lol

any more advanced class gives you a multi faceted perception

There are no words to describe the extent of your stupidity.
Come back when you get your GED or finish your stint at community college.

[Lucky DAWG]

There are no words to describe the extent of your stupidity.
Come back when you get your GED or finish your stint at community college.

FSU is a community college?

[man]

FSU is a community college?

No comment there (refer to sig)

[Lucky DAWG]

No comment there (refer to sig)


lmao

dude i saw your name in latest post and remembered your a gator fan, i knew instantly what your comment was gonna entail

no beef with you there, would love to go to UF

[man]

lmao

dude i saw your name in latest post and remembered your a gator fan, i knew instantly what your comment was gonna entail

no beef with you there, would love to go to UF

LOL, FSU is a great school man. I actually visited the campus when I was trying to pick a college, just couldn't bring myself to do it. What's even worse is my sister goes to UGA...

[Hulud]

Our history (U.S. and world) is littered with religious and racially motivated actions. How can it be color blind? You have to understand the entire scope of history.
you missed what i meant by color blind

i meant that no matter what happened to any minority that its still EVERYONE's history, not just that race


We learn bits and pieces of what our public school systems require. Those "educators" tend to omit minorities from American history. We didn't just appear after the the Civil War.
refer to my last comment

[Hulud]

LOL, FSU is a great school man. I actually visited the campus when I was trying to pick a college, just couldn't bring myself to do it. What's even worse is my sister goes to UGA...
guys please use pm's

[Lucky DAWG]

you missed what i meant by color blind

i meant that no matter what happened to any minority that its still EVERYONE's history, not just that race


refer to my last comment


so true :goodjob:

even whites should be apart of the whole thing to remind us not to be the same assholes that we were before

[C22H19N3O4]

i meant that no matter what happened to any minority that its still EVERYONE's history, not just that race


It's tangible history if the information is made available to us. Are you telling me that you learned about Asian and Latino influences on American history when you were in grades k-12? The information is limited and needs to be supplemented. One of the reasons I stand behind a college education.


*Note: Yes, I know the topic is about BHM, but it should encompass all minorities, including women. BTW, BHM is also intended for young Black Americans who have forgotten where they've come from and where they are going.

[Hulud]

It's tangible history if the information is made available to us. Are you telling me that you learned about Asian and Latino influences on American history when you were in grades k-12? The information is limited and needs to be supplemented. One of the reasons I stand behind a college education.
you're twisting my whole purpose around buddy

i dont mean HISTORY that we are taught i mean THE ACTUAL HISTORY (aka what happened in the past) you obviously have some gripe with the state school system, thats neither here nor there in this thread.

if you want to vent about that then make a thread. this is about how there should/should not be seperate ethnic history months



*Note: Yes, I know the topic is about BHM, but it should encompass all minorities, including women. BTW, BHM is also intended for young Black Americans who have forgotten where they've come from and where they are going.
it basically does encompass all minority's hence the point of me making this thread.

please go re-read what i posted, because it seems you are missing my ENTIRE point of this thread

[C22H19N3O4]

please go re-read what i posted, because it seems you are missing my ENTIRE point of this thread

You need to learn how to relay your question properly. This is not the first time we've had this problem.


You propose that BHM be eliminated, but that is irresponsible when the current K-12 curriculum creates a distorted view of American history. How hard is that to understand?

[Hulud]

You need to learn how to relay your question properly. This is not the first time we've had this problem.
nah man, you just assumed i was referring to what people learn in school



You propose that BHM be eliminated, but that is irresponsible when the current K-12 curriculum creates a distorted view of American history. How hard is that to understand?
if you think its irresponsible to eliminate it then where's every other ethnic history month?

i agree with you that the K-12 curriculum is lacking on ethnic history

[C22H19N3O4]

nah man, you just assumed i was referring to what people learn in school

It's what they are NOT learning in school. I suspect that is one of the reasons BHM exists.




if you think its irresponsible to eliminate it then where's every other ethnic history month?



You're asking the wrong person. Part of my learning process came from my parents. During my undergrad years I took filler history classes and researched as much as I could.

BHM is a necessary evil to force-feed Americans. Is it fair to other minority groups? Of course not. Just remember the post I made about the median income based on race. :lmfao: Hope it all makes sense.

[Hulud]

It's what they are NOT learning in school. I suspect that is one of the reasons BHM exists.
yea that does make sense, so maybe we should get a better history.... err i mean EVERYTHING curriculum in Ga :lmao:
since the schools suck so much (im being dead serious, no jokes here)







You're asking the wrong person. Part of my learning process came from my parents. During my undergrad years I took filler history classes and researched as much as I could.

BHM is a necessary evil to force-feed Americans. Is it fair to other minority groups? Of course not. Just remember the post I made about the median income based on race. :lmfao: Hope it all makes sense.
haha oh man i remember that

but yea, its pretty sad that its needed

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[Lucky DAWG]

It's what they are NOT learning in school. I suspect that is one of the reasons BHM exists.






You're asking the wrong person. Part of my learning process came from my parents. During my undergrad years I took filler history classes and researched as much as I could.

BHM is a necessary evil to force-feed Americans. Is it fair to other minority groups? Of course not. Just remember the post I made about the median income based on race. :lmfao: Hope it all makes sense.


if we had to make a month for every ethnic group, there would not be enough months in the year so its always gonna be unfair.

and secondly, i'm in AP US History right now and we're actually learning right now about immigration to the United States from East And Southern Europe in the late 19th Century and about failed African American movements by Debois and Washington

what were you saying about schools not teaching it :???:

[C22H19N3O4]

i'm in AP US History right now

I didn't know FSU offered AP history. :rolleyes: :lmfao:

You remind me of Echo419 who claims to be working on his Master's degree. :D

[TIGERJC]

Black history month was started back when blacks were treated less than human. Carter G. Woodson started Black history month in 1926, and he did it to show Blacks/Whites (mainly Black youths) what accomplishments blacks had made here in America. For many years it was only celebrated by blacks, it has only become widely celebrated in the last 20-30 years. The month doesn't preach hate for another race and it doesn’t show the supremacy of one race.

I honestly don't see the problem with the month. The month affects no one and everybody I know that actually pays attention to the month; usually learn something new (including me). I would like to know more about other races too and I don't see a problem with Asian, Spanish, White history month. Its just that you white ppl take shit too far when it involves race. If you guys could do without the cross burning and going on coon hunts, I don't see a problem with a month showing the accomplishment of whites. If you don't like Black history month, then go into a comma during Black history month

[StupidBikerBoy]

My opinion? Refer to sig....

[TIGERJC]

My opinion? Refer to sig....
WELL then, BLACK POWER and Kill whitey.

[man]

WELL then, BLACK POWER and Kill whitey.

So much racism in here. lol

[Hulud]

Its just that you white ppl take shit too far when it involves race.
you white people? generalize much?

If you guys could do without the cross burning and going on coon hunts, I don't see a problem with a month showing the accomplishment of whites.
ignorance is bliss i guess...

If you don't like Black history month, then go into a comma during Black history month
but what happens if i have a comma splice?

[TIGERJC]

you white people? generalize much?
:yes:, its much easier to group ppl

ignorance is bliss i guess...
:yes:

Sorry for my bad grammer. Sometimes I forget that I am on a car forum. I really don't care to agrue about Black History month, because there has been numerous threads about the subject just this year.

[man]

:yes:, its much easier to group ppl

Yet when white people do that, they're thought of as racists. :thinking:

[Hektik]

Black history month was started back when blacks were treated less than human. Carter G. Woodson started Black history month in 1926, and he did it to show Blacks/Whites (mainly Black youths) what accomplishments blacks had made here in America. For many years it was only celebrated by blacks, it has only become widely celebrated in the last 20-30 years. The month doesn't preach hate for another race and it doesn’t show the supremacy of one race.

I honestly don't see the problem with the month. The month affects no one and everybody I know that actually pays attention to the month; usually learn something new (including me). I would like to know more about other races too and I don't see a problem with Asian, Spanish, White history month. Its just that you white ppl take shit too far when it involves race. If you guys could do without the cross burning and going on coon hunts, I don't see a problem with a month showing the accomplishment of whites. If you don't like Black history month, then go into a comma during Black history month



this is the most ignorant bs ive ever read....


why ask for equality but when you are offered it u cry about ur little history month. I thinkBHM is bullshit and another crutch for those black people who still feel like they ever had anything to do with slavery....get over it....

[Lucky DAWG]

I didn't know FSU offered AP history. :rolleyes: :lmfao:

You remind me of Echo419 who claims to be working on his Master's degree. :D

i'm not at FSU, i am deciding between going there and other schools for next year at college.

i'm a senior in high school.
if you wouldn't make generalizations by stalking me on other posts then you wouldn't need to assume that from what little you do know

point being in a high school class i am learning about exactly what someone earlier was griping about kids didn't know, meaning we needed a black history month to educate people.

thanks for being a smart ass :goodjob:

[TIGERJC]

this is the most ignorant bs ive ever read....
TY :D


why ask for equality but when you are offered it u cry about ur little history month. I thinkBHM is bullshit and another crutch for those black people who still feel like they ever had anything to do with slavery....get over it....
I am the one crying??? My god I find it hilarious how people get so concerned over small matters that doesn’t even affect that person. I do think schools and some business take it too far sometimes when it comes to recognizing black history month. Please tell me how exactly how it affects you directly and promotes inequality? The most I hear from people who don’t agree on BHm, is that they just have a problem with the name of the month. Which is also the same reason why ppl get pissed about BET and when fubu was popular (finally once ppl caught on to the name).

[1000cckiller]

TY :D


I am the one crying??? My god I find it hilarious how people get so concerned over small matters that doesn’t even affect that person. I do think schools and some business take it too far sometimes when it comes to recognizing black history month. Please tell me how exactly how it affects you directly and promotes inequality? The most I hear from people who don’t agree on BHm, is that they just have a problem with the name of the month. Which is also the same reason why ppl get pissed about BET and when fubu was popular (finally once ppl caught on to the name).i hate tiger, but I must agree with him completely here. White people do have a holiday, and it is ever time there is a president birthday we have to celebrate that shit.

[TIGERJC]

i hate tiger, but I must agree with him completely here. White people do have a holiday, and it is ever time there is a president birthday we have to celebrate that shit.
I hate you too u big lip coon :D

[1000cckiller]

I hate you too u big lip coon :Dha ha, but the do have their little white holidays, so they have no reason to complain.

[EJGuy]

As I see it, BHM makes the divide between whites & black larger.

[Hulud]

:yes:, its much easier to group ppl
and if its by race, then its racism



:yes:

Sorry for my bad grammer. Sometimes I forget that I am on a car forum. I really don't care to agrue about Black History month, because there has been numerous threads about the subject just this year.
i wasnt referring to your grammar, cause i suck at grammar lol

i was referring to you "grouping", as you so eloquently put it, white people together saying that WE go out on coon hunts and burn crosses

i mean i could say the same ignorant racist things about people of other races, yet i know they arent true

:goodjob:

[Hulud]

i hate tiger, but I must agree with him completely here. White people do have a holiday, and it is ever time there is a president birthday we have to celebrate that shit.
oh got it, so once theres a non-white president the white people are gonna change the holiday to WHITE president day? :thinking:

[man]

and if its by race, than its racism

Nah man, you musta forgot. Only white people can be racist...

[1000cckiller]

oh got it, so once theres a non-white president the white people are gonna change the holiday to WHITE president day? :thinking:Look yall have holidays all year long, I could give a fuck less about a presidents birthday. All so if their had been a black president I doubt their would be a hoilday for that. And exactly how the fuck does black history month split balcks and whites more?

[TIGERJC]

i was referring to you "grouping", as you so eloquently put it, white people together saying that WE go out on coon hunts and burn crosses
:D yea its called sarcasm. But I don't expect you to know the differance, b/c u don't know me

i mean i could say the same ignorant racist things about people of other races, yet i know they arent true
Its fun, you should do it on a daily basis

[devin]

what holidays do white people have all year long??

[TIGERJC]

Nah man, you musta forgot. Only white people can be racist...
One of the few joys of not being white.

[man]

Look yall have holidays all year long, I could give a fuck less about a presidents birthday. All so if their had been a black president I doubt their would be a hoilday for that. And exactly how the fuck does black history month split balcks and whites more?

What holidays do white people have that black people don't? President's day is a BS excuse, you're an American too. And I hope you're joking with the last part.

[TIGERJC]

What holidays do white people have that black people don't? President's day is a BS excuse, you're an American too. And I hope you're joking with the last part.
I never heard of a white holiday, but he might mean christmas. Shit I don't know about a white holiday and I really never heard of a blk holiday except MLK day (its not a blk holiday unless ppl get the day off)

[man]

I never heard of a white holiday, but he might mean christmas. Shit I don't know about white holiday and I really never heard of a blk holiday except MLK day (its not a blk holiday unless ppl get the day off)

Exactly, I'm just trying to figure out what this guy's talking about.

[devin]

christmas???

[TIGERJC]

christmas???
I couldn't think of any white holidays and I assume that might be what he was talking about since a white man is the face of christmas

[devin]

I couldn't think of any white holidays and I assume that might be what he was talking about since a white man is the face of christmas




:lmfao: :lmfao: thats the most rediculous(sp?) thing i have ever heard.


thanks, i needed to laugh.

[Hulud]

Look yall have holidays all year long,
they are everyones holidays last time i checked. i mean presidents day is to remember the leaders of this country, not what color they are.

I could give a fuck less about a presidents birthday.
i agree with you there

All so if their had been a black president I doubt their would be a hoilday for that.
theres not a holiday for every presidents birthday, presidents day is on Washingtons birthday (i believe) my assumption as to that would be because he is the first presidnt of the US. so they deicded to remember all presidents on his bday.

And exactly how the fuck does black history month split balcks and whites more?
i believe the month was created to bring awareness about black history, right? but as i said in my first post black=white=asian=hispanic=etc.. history.

i think that cialis made a good point in this thread that the school curriculum needs a major overhaul to bring more minority history into the classroom

[Hulud]

:D yea its called sarcasm. But I don't expect you to know the differance, b/c u don't know me
ok its hard to tell over the net


Its fun, you should do it on a daily basis
ill pass

[Danny]

This country is still very racist, including the blacks. Blacks get away with the majority of the racial problems this country faces. Black history month is one of those things not to mention BET(Black Entertainment Television). Both of which if any other race had an equavalent they would be considered racist by the masses.

Blacks also fight for the supposedly "politically correct" alternative to 'blacks' : "african-americans". This so-called politically correct term is racist in nature, im white, and the majority of whites are ok with being called white. Personally, when i look in the mirror, on the most simplist terms of colors my skin is white. Blacks on the other hand get uneasy when refered to as blacks. Why? I have no idea, all i know is there are plenty of people that fight for this "politically correct" term. I have a little bit of irish in my bloodline, but am i called an Irish-American, nope; neither do i want to be called that. There is only one type of american in my opinion and thats the good ol fashioned plain "american" NOT: irish-american, african-american, turkish-american, or any other word you could make up. I just dont understand why a race that is supposedly anti-segregation chooses to segregate themselfs with "politically correct" termanology.

We also have blatantly racist people in atlanta, that have influence over the population, two of which is the mayor of atlanta, and jesse jackson. yet they continue to do so with great support. You dont see the KKK on FOX News at night, but you see Jesse Jackson on there saying Katrina was a racist act on the goverments behalf.

All in all, this country needs to get over race, and worry about things that truly matter. And back on topic, yes : Black history month should be done away with asap.

[ShooterMcGavin]

lemme know when it's asian history month...

[Hulud]

lemme know when it's asian history month...
will do, youll be the first person i call lol

[ShooterMcGavin]

that'd be some serious ish, i'd go out and buy some fireworks :goodjob: :lmfao:

[1000cckiller]

This country is still very racist, including the blacks. Blacks get away with the majority of the racial problems this country faces. Black history month is one of those things not to mention BET(Black Entertainment Television). Both of which if any other race had an equavalent they would be considered racist by the masses.

Blacks also fight for the supposedly "politically correct" alternative to 'blacks' : "african-americans". This so-called politically correct term is racist in nature, im white, and the majority of whites are ok with being called white. Personally, when i look in the mirror, on the most simplist terms of colors my skin is white. Blacks on the other hand get uneasy when refered to as blacks. Why? I have no idea, all i know is there are plenty of people that fight for this "politically correct" term. I have a little bit of irish in my bloodline, but am i called an Irish-American, nope; neither do i want to be called that. There is only one type of american in my opinion and thats the good ol fashioned plain "american" NOT: irish-american, african-american, turkish-american, or any other word you could make up. I just dont understand why a race that is supposedly anti-segregation chooses to segregate themselfs with "politically correct" termanology.

We also have blatantly racist people in atlanta, that have influence over the population, two of which is the mayor of atlanta, and jesse jackson. yet they continue to do so with great support. You dont see the KKK on FOX News at night, but you see Jesse Jackson on there saying Katrina was a racist act on the goverments behalf.

All in all, this country needs to get over race, and worry about things that truly matter. And back on topic, yes : Black history month should be done away with asap.o really, dude know what you are talking about before you speak, My grandparents and my parents were born back in the racist era, 1900 to the 1940s I know the stories that I have heard are not fiction, so to say that blacks are racist, is completely wrong, step in my grandparents shoes, and have your ass beaten for being black, or not doing what some white person told you to do. Be in their shoes and talk that dumb shit. My parents were born in the early 40s ad they went through some of the stuff my grandparents went through but not all the way to the same level, but it was close. Tell them that they are racsit for what happened to them, and you might not see another day. Black history is to show what struggles some blacks have been trough an what they have accomplished, So its not a national hoilday. Its something to give people inspiration for accomplishments.

[Hulud]

that'd be some serious ish, i'd go out and buy some fireworks :goodjob: :lmfao:
since your people created them and all right? lol

[TIGERJC]

This country is still very racist, including the blacks. Blacks get away with the majority of the racial problems this country faces. Black history month is one of those things not to mention BET(Black Entertainment Television). Both of which if any other race had an equavalent they would be considered racist by the masses.
Sounds like you have a problem with the word black. If there was no upn or Bet u wouldn't never see Black person on TV except for sports. I call that racist that there are few shows on network tv that appeal to other races other than white. The real sad thing is that the few blacks shows that are on tv play into the Black stereotype.



you see Jesse Jackson on there saying Katrina was a racist act on the goverments behalf.
I do agree that Jesse Jackson cries woof to many times, but I do see (also a lot of black) where he is coming from to a certain degree on the Katrina matter. Katrina just showed the entire country how blacks still don't trust white ppl and the gov't. Katrina was a disaster, that I feel that would still turn out shitty if it where white ppl that were stuck in New Orleans. But I still have that feeling that more heads would have rolled if majority of those people where white that were stuck in New Orleans. I have that kind of thought process, b/c as a kid I heard the true stories of what blacks and also what family members had to endure in this country. I am not talking about the 50’s; I am talking about as early as the med 90’s


All in all, this country needs to get over race, and worry about things that truly matter. And back on topic, yes : Black history month should be done away with asap.
As a country we still have a long way to go

[devin]

your soo right all of us white people are the devil and it is some secret plan to keep black people in america down.

[TIGERJC]

your soo right all of us white people are the devil and it is some secret plan to keep black people in america down.
Ok take what I said to the extreme point. I can't talk for all blacks, but I know I am not the only one to hear this when I was growing up. All u pale bastards are the devil, but I still love yall

[Cool Cat GTR]

First, to answer the question. I think the month should be abolished. Just as I think Hallmark created a ton of bogus reasons for us to celebrate all the worthless holidays they have tried to invent. History cannot be changed although there are many people of many races and religions that are probably embarassed for actions of all sorts from previous generations. Yes, I have white skin but how many folks realize that history in Rome suggests that most of the people (which happened to have white skin) were homosexuals. All of us might have heritage that puts our family tree square in the middle of dick suckers of the world during that time. Who knows. Rome fell. Did it fall because of skin color? Did it fall because of all the dick suckers? Who cares. It takes all kinds of people to co-exist in today's world. Yes, I'm a little older than a lot of folks on IA but I respect everyone as to their right to be a human being. It's very easy to generalize about things when a common identifying characteristic exist. The whole black/white or male/female arguments are a big waste of time. Everyday I depend on good people of many different backgrounds as most everyone else does too. The sooner we all decide to quit rehashing history and begin to plan the future, the better we all will be. Personally, I always felt that history in school was a big waste of time. Would it not have been better to spend the time on something that would prepare us to make a living rather than sleeping through a history course. Think about this, if history wasn't offerred as a course in school, what would history teachers do to earn a living? Answer: They would starve since they offer nothing of importance to any of us. Just my two cents. However, if we have to hate on something, couldn't we all agree that Hondas suck? Thank you.

Wouldn't it make more sense to judge people based on their character as opposed to their sex, race, or religion?

[devin]

i disagree with you buddy.....










































hondas dont suck.

[Cool Cat GTR]

It's all good dude. At least tell me you have a S2000. :)

[ShooterMcGavin]

since your people created them and all right? lol
glad u got that :goodjob: :D

[Cool Cat GTR]

I love the military picture shagwagon. If everyone had to serve their country then we would all be put through challenges that would emphasize the importance of depending on one another regardless of background.

[Danny]

o really, ..... accomplishments.


trust me man. This country is racist. White people included. If i came across as blacks being racist, and them alone I appoligize.

Where is native-american history month? can you answer that, cause the whites basically slaughtered them, yet they dont get a month.

I just think we focus a little too much on our history, to the point that it hurts us. In no way, shape, or form should we forget about what has happened in the past. But in no way do we need a month about a race, its just not fair to other races, PERIOD. Now where do you draw the line in determining which races get a month? That would be a racist decision wouldnt it?

[Danny]

Sounds like you have a problem with the word black. If there was no upn or Bet u wouldn't never see Black person on TV except for sports. I call that racist that there are few shows on network tv that appeal to other races other than white. The real sad thing is that the few blacks shows that are on tv play into the Black stereotype.

I expected this response. But your missing the point, the racist action is in the NAME. It suggests that only Blacks can watch. You arguing that other channels consist mostly of whites, is true, but an invalided argument, and has nothing to do with my argument. Feel free to start a network with the majority of the on air talent being black, that’s fine. But the second you call it BLACK Entertainment, that’s racist. This would pertain to any race.



I do agree that Jesse Jackson cries woof to many times, but I do see (also a lot of black) where he is coming from to a certain degree on the Katrina matter. Katrina just showed the entire country how blacks still don't trust white ppl and the gov't. Katrina was a disaster, that I feel that would still turn out shitty if it where white ppl that were stuck in New Orleans. But I still have that feeling that more heads would have rolled if majority of those people where white that were stuck in New Orleans. I have that kind of thought process, b/c as a kid I heard the true stories of what blacks and also what family members had to endure in this country. I am not talking about the 50’s; I am talking about as early as the med 90’s.

Maybe your right. But that accusation needs proof, people of this country cant call a disaster like that to be a racial matter with out significant proof. Personally i dont think it was a racial matter in regards to the delayed response.



As a country we still have a long way to go

a very long way to go. I would love if we could all drop the racial issues, but its just not going to happen.

[ShooterMcGavin]

I love the military picture shagwagon. If everyone had to serve their country then we would all be put through challenges that would emphasize the importance of depending on one another regardless of background.
lol, i think u missed the point of that picture, look closely at the guy on the left and what he appears to be holding/doing... :D

[Hektik]

Look yall have holidays all year long, I could give a fuck less about a presidents birthday. All so if their had been a black president I doubt their would be a hoilday for that. And exactly how the fuck does black history month split balcks and whites more?

the ignorance just reaks from your post
since when was it a specific presidents holiday. its just PRESIDENTS DAY not gwb day or clinton presidents day, so if there ever was a black president it would still be his holiday.... the issue with BHM is that its a specific holiday for a specific race....

[BigTs13]

i didnt bother to read any of the pages in the thread except for the 1st post, because its probably just a bunch of arguing. im not racist at all. im white and i have a 1/2 black sister, and my mom has a black husband. i think racism is stupidity. now, on the the black history month issue. i understand why we have it, but why is it such a big deal? why not a white history month, or an asian history month, or a jewish history month? im tired of hearing about african americans talking about reparations. i dont owe u anything. now...if i had my ancestor, and ur ancestor who was kept into slavery by mine, then i would make him apologize...but why do u want money? dont u understand that if we give u (african americans) money that u will just spend it on cars and stuff and that will just go back to white people? i think the south should just do a formal apology. slavery was fucked up. just my 2cents...

[TIGERJC]

i didnt bother to read any of the pages in the thread except for the 1st post, because its probably just a bunch of arguing. im not racist at all. im white and i have a 1/2 black sister, and my mom has a black husband. i think racism is stupidity. now, on the the black history month issue. i understand why we have it, but why is it such a big deal? why not a white history month, or an asian history month, or a jewish history month? im tired of hearing about african americans talking about reparations. i dont owe u anything. now...if i had my ancestor, and ur ancestor who was kept into slavery by mine, then i would make him apologize...but why do u want money? dont u understand that if we give u (african americans) money that u will just spend it on cars and stuff and that will just go back to white people? i think the south should just do a formal apology. slavery was fucked up. just my 2cents...
HOW DOES IT TURN INTO A DISCUSSION ABOUT BLACK HISTORY month to reparations. I honestly could careless about repartions and most black people I know feel the same way.

[on 3]

Right on, Andy Rooney!
Andy Rooney said on “60 Minutes” a few weeks back:
I don’t think being a minority makes you a victim of anything except numbers. The only things I can think of that are truly discriminatory are things like the United Negro College Fund, Jet Magazine, Black Entertainment Television, and Miss Black Am erica. Try to have things like the UnitedCaucasianCollege Fund, Cloud Magazine, White Entertainment Television, or Miss White America; and see what happens…Jesse Jackson will be knocking down your door.
Guns do not make you a killer. I think killing makes you a killer. You can kill someone with a baseball bat or a car, but no one is trying to ban you from driving to the ball game.
I believe they are called the Boy Scouts for a reason, that is why there are no girls allowed. Girls belong in the Girl Scouts! ARE YOU LISTENING MARTHA BURKE?
I think that if you feel homosexuality is wrong, it is not a phobia, it is an opinion.
I have the right “NOT” to be tolerant of others because they are different, weird, or tick me off.
When 70% of the people who get arrested are black, in cities where 70% of the population is black, that is not racial profiling, it is the Law of Probability.
I believe that if you are selling me a milkshake, a pack of cigarettes, a newspaper or a hotel room, you must do it in English! As a matter of fact, if you want to be an American citizen, you should have to speak English!
My father and grandfather didn’t die in vain so you can leave the countries you were born in to come over and disrespect ours.
I think the police should have every right to shoot your sorry ass if you threaten them after they tell you to stop. If you can’t understand the word “freeze” or “stop” in English, see the above lines.
I don’t think just because you were not born in this country, you are qualified for any special loan programs, government sponsored bank loans or tax breaks, etc., so you can o pen a hotel, coffee shop, trinket store, or any other business.
We did not go to the aid of certain foreign countries and risk our lives in wars to defend their freedoms, so that decades later they could come over here and tell us our constitution is a living document; and open to their interpretations.
I don’t hate the rich I don’t pity the poor.
I know pro wrestling is fake, but so are movies and television. That doesn’t stop you from watching them.
I think Bill Gates has every right to keep every penny he made and continue to make more. If it ticks you off, go and invent the next operating system that’s better, and put your name on the building.
It doesn’t take a whole village to raise a child right, but it does take a parent to stand up to the kid; and smack their little behinds when necessary, and say “NO!”

I think tattoos and piercing are fine if you want them, but please don’t pretend they are a political statement. And, please, stay home until that new lip ring heals. I don’t want to look at your ugly infected mouth as you serve me French fries!
I am sick of “Political Correctness.” I know a lot of black people, and not a single one of them was born in Africa; so how can they be “African-Americans”? Besides, Africa is a continent. I don’t go around saying I am a European-American because my great, great, great, great, great, great grandfather was from Europe. I am proud to be from America and nowhere else
And if you don’t like my point of view, tough…
I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG, OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, AND TO THE REPUBLIC, FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL!
I was asked to send this on if I agree or delete if I don’t. It is said that 86% of Americans believe in God. Therefore I have a very hard time understanding why there is such a problem in having “In God We Trust” on our money and having “God” in the Pledge of Allegiance. Why don’t we just tell the 14% to Shut Up and BE QUIET!!!

[Hulud]

The sooner we all decide to quit rehashing history and begin to plan the future, the better we all will be. Personally, I always felt that history in school was a big waste of time. Would it not have been better to spend the time on something that would prepare us to make a living rather than sleeping through a history course. Think about this, if history wasn't offerred as a course in school, what would history teachers do to earn a living? Answer: They would starve since they offer nothing of importance to any of us. Just my two cents.
if you dont learn from the past, you're doomed to repeat it


Wouldn't it make more sense to judge people based on their character as opposed to their sex, race, or religion?
exactly

[on 3]

i thought that it has some points on this topic

[Hulud]

i think people arent seeing my whole point for this thread

HISTORY IS HISTORY

ITS NOT WHITE ITS NOT BLACK ITS NOT ANYTHING BUT HISTORY

white is black is hispanic is asian is native american etc etc......

everyones history is one and the same

[Hektik]

agreed its everyones history.... so stop acting like yall need some kind of extra special cookie.... besides its in the past learn from it so that the bad does not repeat itself but stop holding on to it ....

[Lucky DAWG]

i think people arent seeing my whole point for this thread

HISTORY IS HISTORY

ITS NOT WHITE ITS NOT BLACK ITS NOT ANYTHING BUT HISTORY

white is black is hispanic is asian is native american etc etc......

everyones history is one and the same

:goodjob::goodjob::goodjob:

seriously now

could this get anymore complicated?
power to you

[Kamikaze]

I can't believe I just sat here and read all of this, but here's my question...

What is it that bothers white people about BHM? Does it take something away from you? Does it offend you? Do you not feel included? I read the replies, that I don't agree with, about it further dividing the races but I just don't understand why threads like this are needed. Can we [Blacks] not have something to ourselves for just 28 days out of the year? I mean come on, what changes? A few more commercials here and there, maybe a few more signs and billboards? Where's the harm in that?

Someone please explain it to me because I have failed to see the harm.

Btw, I love BET. :D

[Hulud]

Someone please explain it to me because I have failed to see the harm.

first question is, wasnt bhm started to raise awareness about black cultures and equality?

well how equal is it to have your own month? (personally i dont give a flying fuck about a WHM) my whole point is that BHM is segregating Blacks from everyone else. i feel (call my crazy i guess) that history is not restricted to one race, we are all humans first, races second. so why do we need to classify things based on race?

[Lucky DAWG]

first question is, wasnt bhm started to raise awareness about black cultures and equality?

well how equal is it to have your own month? (personally i dont give a flying fuck about a WHM) my whole point is that BHM is segregating Blacks from everyone else. i feel (call my crazy i guess) that history is not restricted to one race, we are all humans first, races second. so why do we need to classify things based on race?

i agree

its not racist to not give you your own month. it only seperates black people even further, we should just treat eachother equally and make awareness for slavery and issues of black civil rights in the past, but a month is not necessary for that.

some black people will say that its the least we could do for enslaving them over a hundred years ago. WHICH WAS COMPLETELY UNETHICAL AND BEYOND IMMORAL AND WRONG... but they fail to see that even if you can argue that your present conditions are because of slavery and you want reperations... that was caused by people long dead.

racism still goes on, on both sides of the fence. but we should just get on with things and treat eachother equally, make sure people are aware of the past so they don't make the same mistakes, but don't make a whole seperate month to only divide us into different groups even more so

P.S. - i could care less about a WHM as well, i wouldn't want one either

[Kamikaze]

well how equal is it to have your own month?

It's not like we bought the rights to the month of February. We don't own it so it doesn't really belong to us. It's just a designated time that is used to celebrate our culture.


(personally i dont give a flying fuck about a WHM) my whole point is that BHM is segregating Blacks from everyone else.

That was my question. I'm really not understanding how this is so.


i feel (call my crazy i guess) that history is not restricted to one race, we are all humans first, races second. so why do we need to classify things based on race?

I don't know if I agree with you completely there. For example, some inventions or ideas were first created or developed by a particular race. To be able to say, "Hey we did this first." is kind of a way to be proud of your heritage. You know what I'm sayin?

[man]

I don't know if I agree with you completely there. For example, some inventions or ideas were first created or developed by a particular race. To be able to say, "Hey we did this first." is kind of a way to be proud of your heritage. You know what I'm sayin?

That's ridiculous. How does a race invent something. That's like saying the white people invented the light bulb. Did all of the white people in the world gather together and come up with that? Hell no, one man did it and why does the race of that man matter anyway?

[Lucky DAWG]

That's ridiculous. How does a race invent something. That's like saying the white people invented the light bulb. Did all of the white people in the world gather together and come up with that? Hell no, one man did it and why does the race of that man matter anyway?

sill question

bc white people have bigger brains :rolleyes:
kidding kidding

many races of people have invented great things
it has nothing to do with anything

the chinese were inventing what europeans had 100's of years before them though. asia is still kicking our ass today, we're bout to get stomped

[Hulud]

I don't know if I agree with you completely there. For example, some inventions or ideas were first created or developed by a particular race. To be able to say, "Hey we did this first." is kind of a way to be proud of your heritage. You know what I'm sayin?
but once again thats just separating everyone based on race

cause then it becomes a pissing contest on things different races have done for society. it would never end.

do you want equality? i know i sure do. i think people should see past race and see people for who they really are, Humans.

[Kamikaze]

That's ridiculous. How does a race invent something. That's like saying the white people invented the light bulb. Did all of the white people in the world gather together and come up with that? Hell no, one man did it and why does the race of that man matter anyway?

You misinterpreted what I was saying. Of course a race can't invent something as there are people being born into it constantly. But when something great is discovered or created that has an immense impact on human history, is the origin of the creator not attached to it?

And I don't know why race matters. I don't make the rules.

[Lucky DAWG]

You misinterpreted what I was saying. Of course a race can't invent something as there are people being born into it constantly. But when something great is discovered or created that has an immense impact on human history, is the origin of the creator not attached to it?

And I don't know why race matters. I don't make the rules.

the world is moving more and more towards one culture with every advancement, it might not happen soon, but its most likely inevitable

and where did you pick up this handbook on international rules?
can i get it at barnes and nobles? :???:
i hope its on sale

[Kamikaze]

do you want equality? i know i sure do. i think people should see past race and see people for who they really are, Humans.

Do I want equality? Sure. Do I think it will happen in my lifetime? No.

[Lucky DAWG]

Do I want equality? Sure. Do I think it will happen in my lifetime? No.

i'll tell ya right now it probably won't happen in your grandchildren's life time

[Kamikaze]

the world is moving more and more towards one culture with every advancement, it might not happen soon, but its most likely inevitable

Yes, eventually there will only be one race.


and where did you pick up this handbook on international rules?
can i get it at barnes and nobles? :???:
i hope its on sale

I checked it out from the public library. You should read it, it's quite intriguing.

[Lucky DAWG]

Yes, eventually there will only be one race.



I checked it out from the public library. You should read it, it's quite intriguing.

fuck, looks like i'm gonna be forced to pay some late fees for huckleberry finn back in 9th grade :lmfao:

[EJGuy]

Right on, Andy Rooney!

Andy Rooney said on “60 Minutes” a few weeks back:
I don’t think being a minority makes you a victim of anything except numbers. The only things I can think of that are truly discriminatory are things like the United Negro College Fund, Jet Magazine, Black Entertainment Television, and Miss Black Am erica. Try to have things like the UnitedCaucasianCollege Fund, Cloud Magazine, White Entertainment Television, or Miss White America; and see what happens…Jesse Jackson will be knocking down your door.
Guns do not make you a killer. I think killing makes you a killer. You can kill someone with a baseball bat or a car, but no one is trying to ban you from driving to the ball game.
I believe they are called the Boy Scouts for a reason, that is why there are no girls allowed. Girls belong in the Girl Scouts! ARE YOU LISTENING MARTHA BURKE?
I think that if you feel homosexuality is wrong, it is not a phobia, it is an opinion.
I have the right “NOT” to be tolerant of others because they are different, weird, or tick me off.
When 70% of the people who get arrested are black, in cities where 70% of the population is black, that is not racial profiling, it is the Law of Probability.
I believe that if you are selling me a milkshake, a pack of cigarettes, a newspaper or a hotel room, you must do it in English! As a matter of fact, if you want to be an American citizen, you should have to speak English!
My father and grandfather didn’t die in vain so you can leave the countries you were born in to come over and disrespect ours.
I think the police should have every right to shoot your sorry ass if you threaten them after they tell you to stop. If you can’t understand the word “freeze” or “stop” in English, see the above lines.
I don’t think just because you were not born in this country, you are qualified for any special loan programs, government sponsored bank loans or tax breaks, etc., so you can o pen a hotel, coffee shop, trinket store, or any other business.
We did not go to the aid of certain foreign countries and risk our lives in wars to defend their freedoms, so that decades later they could come over here and tell us our constitution is a living document; and open to their interpretations.
I don’t hate the rich I don’t pity the poor.
I know pro wrestling is fake, but so are movies and television. That doesn’t stop you from watching them.
I think Bill Gates has every right to keep every penny he made and continue to make more. If it ticks you off, go and invent the next operating system that’s better, and put your name on the building.
It doesn’t take a whole village to raise a child right, but it does take a parent to stand up to the kid; and smack their little behinds when necessary, and say “NO!”

I think tattoos and piercing are fine if you want them, but please don’t pretend they are a political statement. And, please, stay home until that new lip ring heals. I don’t want to look at your ugly infected mouth as you serve me French fries!
I am sick of “Political Correctness.” I know a lot of black people, and not a single one of them was born in Africa; so how can they be “African-Americans”? Besides, Africa is a continent. I don’t go around saying I am a European-American because my great, great, great, great, great, great grandfather was from Europe. I am proud to be from America and nowhere else
And if you don’t like my point of view, tough…
I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG, OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, AND TO THE REPUBLIC, FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL!
I was asked to send this on if I agree or delete if I don’t. It is said that 86% of Americans believe in God. Therefore I have a very hard time understanding why there is such a problem in having “In God We Trust” on our money and having “God” in the Pledge of Allegiance. Why don’t we just tell the 14% to Shut Up and BE QUIET!!!


I couldn't agree more.

[1000cckiller]

agreed its everyones history.... so stop acting like yall need some kind of extra special cookie.... besides its in the past learn from it so that the bad does not repeat itself but stop holding on to it ....
If it does yall will all be my bitches.

[cornercarver78]

***DISCLAIMER***
Anyone that posts any form of bigotry in this thread will have their post(s) deleted.

Ok before anyone wants to jump down my throat for this post, please read and re-read what i post.

Ok whats your thoughts on Black History Month?

Personally I feel that it should be done away with, there shouldnt be one. Ok Ok here me out on this. I feel that Black History=White History=Asian History=Hispanic History=Indian History=etc... so why the color barrier on remembering a certain races history? I feel that it does no good, only makes the color barrier bigger. I mean there is no other history months for people of other races.

History is history, it is color blind. So why only recognize one race for their history?

I feel this only puts civil rights at a further disadvantage for success

Discuss

Exactly, SOME poeple only want you to be color blind when it suits their purpose